Another game on ESPN for those who do not get FSN.

Kobe will be playing as far as I know.

Wish I could go to this one, but I will out cruising to mexico. I will have to debut my Pistonsforum.com Tshirt at the Pistons-Mavs game in dallas next month. Hopefully they rebound from the terrible showing tonight and get revenge for the game they lost here last year.

if we lose to smuch parker and mo evans i will cry

if we lose to smuch parker and mo evans i will cry


Who is smuch parker???.................:)

Rip hurt his elbow during practice today. He is DOUBTFUL for tomorrow's match against the LA Lakers.

Thu, Nov 9, 2006 at 5:42 PM Chris McCosky
Rip injures elbow (http://info.detnews.com/pistonsblog/index.cfm)

When we were let into practice Thursday at the Pan Pacific Rec Center, the first thing we saw was Richard Hamilton sitting dejectedly with a huge wrap around his right elbow and arm. He was also bleeding from a scratch on the top of his right hand. The initial word from the Pistons trainers was that he had hyperextended the right elbow. He did it during the team's scrimmage and it was clear he was in a lot of pain. They are listing him as questionable for the game against the Lakers. It didn't look too good today, but Hamilton is a fast healer. So, best not to draw any conclusions until Friday morning.
Flip Murray would probably start at shooting guard if Rip can't go.

great now we get to watch flip dribble 15 seconds and fire a mid range jumper.

That's a big loss not having Rip in the lineup. Lets see if Murray can step up and fill the whole.

Does this mean that Rip will actually dress be available for spot duty, or will Blaylock dress and get some minutes?

I don't see this as a horible thing. flip will have to step up. at the same time, del the funky carlosapien, will get some good burn.

del the funky carlosapien
I'm on the scrimmage waiting for you ****'ing imitations
and I'm not discriminating myself when I make my wealth
Pure facts, it's hard for me to endure whack MCs
I lay my tracks with ease....

I'm tellin' you that Del is truth appealin' through your arteries
you scar your knees bowing, praising, now when I phase in
like Kitty Pride
city wide
confer to kick the rumor, he admit he lies

the truth will set you free
when I upset MCs, execute MCs, I do my best to mute MCs
all it takes is intelligence, I'm great with embellishments
they need a savior, so Del is sent

:D (from "Missing Link")

Hamilton hurts elbow - 11/10/06 - The Detroit News Online (http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061110/SPORTS0102/611100344/1127/rss13)

Slam dunks

Dale Davis went through the entire practice Thursday, and Saunders said he planned to activate the forward tonight. Davis had been out because of a strained left hamstring.

… If Hamilton plays, Amir Johnson likely will be deactivated.

If Hamilton is thinking of not playing it must be pretty bad. Not good news right now.

Look guys if the Pistons are going to win a game on this trip it will be tonight. With Rip questionable it makes it worse.

The Lakers can score from all over the court, and our D has been missing. Rasheed has to play the game he brought in Utah and CB has to bring the game he had in Sac-town. If Detroit has the balance they can win, BUT I think they will come up against the wall again.

LA 103 Pistons 98 pressure pressure:cold:

If Rip is out, Saunders has to replace almost 40 minutes on the first night of a back to back. Time for Flip to prove he can coach. Worst case scenario, Billups, Tay, and Flip play 40+ minutes. Then we get smoked tonight, and really smoked tomorrow.

Best case, Billups and Tay play the same minutes, Rip's minutes go to Murray, Delfino, and JMax. (and maybe even Blaylock). Have a feeling Flip goes with the worst case scenario.

Come on. Lakers after a Kobe surgery? Even on the road, we gotta be able to take care of these guys. If we can't, then we're looking like an 8 seed.

its OUR pick thats going to be low teens.

I'm ok with that. I'd rather eat one year rebuilding and getting the kids ready to go, mopping up with some sweet picks, and possibly making a coaching change than continuing the tease act of being a contender.

That said, I'm not going to throw in the towel on this season until they lose 40 games.

Yeah, when a sports team's forum builder throws in the towel, they are cooked.

I'm ok with that. I'd rather eat one year rebuilding and getting the kids ready to go, mopping up with some sweet picks, and possibly making a coaching change than continuing the tease act of being a contender.

That said, I'm not going to throw in the towel on this season until they lose 40 games.
Something has to change. At this point, I can't believe they'll flip a switch and suddenly start firing on all cylinders. At least last year, you could feel good about the efficiency of the offense and you had hope that the defense would be addressed.

Yeah, when a sports team's forum builder throws in the towel, they are cooked.
Yeah, but what I am saying is that even if the Pistons don't have a championship season, if our expectations are reasonable, we can still get a LOT of enjoyment out of this.

Quite honestly, I am less concerned with why Nazr is so bad in +/- or why Tazr has gotten no PT than I am with seeing Maxiell absolute abuse some rims and defenders.

Remember when watching the regular season was fun? That's the place I have returned to. :)

I'm ok with that. I'd rather eat one year rebuilding and getting the kids ready to go, mopping up with some sweet picks, and possibly making a coaching change than continuing the tease act of being a contender.

That said, I'm not going to throw in the towel on this season until they lose 40 games.

I'm ok with that too but the PROBLEM here is that Flip Senior will continue to play the starters heavy minutes and we end up NOT getting the kids (Delfino, Jmax. Amir, Blalock) ready. Flip Senior will only His pet, Flip Junior heavy minutes other than Dice.

CHAT IS OPEN! (http://www.pistonsforum.com/misc.php?do=flashchat)

See you in 15 minutes!

Nice division of labor tonight.

Category leaders:
Points- Tay (31)
Rebs- Dice (12)
Assists- Chauncey (9)
Blocks- Sheed (2)
Steals- Nazr (5)

Plus, we actually pulled off the zone!!! So what if Kobe wasn't trying. It's just so much fun beating the Lakers.

Looks like we are saving the Brahma to provide energy tomorrow night.

Hey we won
Yee Haw!

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By the way, when was the last time we had 5 different outright leaders in the 5 main statistical categories in a game? I bet it has been a while. Years maybe.

Heavy minutes by CB and Tay. Wonder if they will still have the legs tomorrow night.

Where's JMax for this game? Why Flip Murray has to play so many minutes when Delf has limited minutes and Blalock has no minutes at all.

Good game. Flip should of sent out the bench in the start of the 4th quarter though.

Maybe cuz Delfino was sucking. Delfino needs to play his game which is attacking the basket and fascilitating ball movement.
Zone looked effective against the lakers and we took care of the glass...probably because the lakers didn't slice us apart. The team is starting to rely on individual skill to carry us instead of playing that team game that we did last year. Do we have offenses not designed around Rip? If its not a rip curl or sheed 3 bomb, its feed sheed and watch him or let tay back down and watch him or let chauncey try to take over and hope he does.

This team is too stagnant. There needs to be a change somewhere.

I was glad Tay had such a great game in front of his peeps from Compton. Yeah, no JMax. I don't get it. The natives are gonna get restless if he continues to sit, kinda like the Darko stuff a few years ago. :hoops:

I'm not sure what the above emoticon is supposed to mean, but I like it so I thought I'd use it.

Maybe cuz Delfino was sucking. Delfino needs to play his game which is attacking the basket and fascilitating ball movement.

Everybody else seems to know that Delfino should attack the basket - except for Delfino and Flip Sr.

Sadly, I don't think Flip will learn his lesson about sitting starters when we have a big lead until one of our players gets injured against the other squad's second unit.

Nice to get a "W", though.

Sadly, I don't think Flip will learn his lesson about sitting starters when we have a big lead until one of our players gets injured against the other squad's second unit.

Nice to get a "W", though.

It's really pissing me off. All the starters except for Rip (if he plays) should get around 25 minutes.

It's really pissing me off. All the starters except for Rip (if he plays) should get around 25 minutes.
If you look at other teams, that's simply not reasonable.

Big players play in big games.

I will agree that we have not cornered the market on big players though. Billups is a very good, but not great PG. Same with Rip, Tay and Sheed.

I don't see a Paul Pierce or Steve Nash on this roster. An Iverson or Kobe.

But managing minutes is always the trickiest of games for the coach. Some guys do not respond when given more, and some guys respond poorly when their minutes are trimmed.

Chuck Daly did a good job with his 3 guard rotation of Thomas, Dumars and Johnson. He would throw Johnson a bone every couple of games if Thomas or Dumars were not playing well. But he would rarely do it in consecutive games. The starter knew he would get a chance to redeem himself the next game.

Sadly, I don't think Flip will learn his lesson about sitting starters when we have a big lead until one of our players gets injured against the other squad's second unit.

Nice to get a "W", though.

Starter Minutes

Chauncey Billups

05-06: 36.1
06-07: 35.2
Difference: -0.9Rip Hamilton

05-06: 35.3
06-07: 37.8
Difference: +2.5Tayshaun Prince

05-06: 35.3
06-07: 35.3
Difference: 0Rasheed Wallace

05-06: 34.8
06-07: 33.7
Difference: -1.1Doesn't seem like the starters are getting rested again.

Doesn't seem like the starters are getting rested again.

And they won't. Everything Flip has said amounts to him believing that our guys WERE NOT tired at the end of last season. He thinks they were using that as an excuse, and the only reason we lost last year is that they didn't listen to him.

Hard for me to get much from this game, it looked like the Lakers just came back from a hard night at a strip club. The minute distribution was asinine. Delfino misses one shot, bench. Murray could go 0 for 30, and Flip still wouldn't take him out. And for you JMax lovers, now you can start to understand what the DHOF was going through last year.

You can't earn it, if you never get a chance to play.

Delfino misses one shot, bench.
I passed out during the game, but before I did, I saw Delf miss TWO shots. I know because I gave bball jay "the business" about it. :D