I just wanted to post a quick comment about the Raps vs Hawks game tonight, but for the life of me, couldn't find a relevant thread to put it in!

So I just started this one (Mods: If there is somewhere better to put this post, please feel free to move it).

Anyway, this was a very good game to watch. Both teams look very solid. Johnson and Smith for ATL look unstoppable and T.O. has some really solid depth.

Both of these teams could challenge for playoff spots this season.

I caught the end of the game too Jammer.

Atlanta is amazingly good. They seem so confident right now. I think they, not the Cavs could be the power in the East over the next 3 seasons....

And thanks for starting a thread. It's one of a million things we never got around to this summer!

They seem so confident right now.

I thought that myself watching the game. They had a swagger about them.

Another thing I was thinking while watching the game was that although T.O. doesn't really have a "Starting 5" per se, they have a bunch of guys who can just come in and contribute with very little drop off from the "starters". They actually kind of remind me of the Alternatorz. Led by a fiesty, high energy PG in Calderon playing the role of Jon Barry.

Both thoughts had me longing for the good old days of a couple of seasons ago!

I'm a Fred Jones fan. I think that Raptors second unit of Jones, Calderon, Graham etc is very decent. Probably as good if not better than Hunter, Murray, and Delfino.

Andrew Bynum is off to a nice start this season for the Lakers.

(Ok, that was weak. I really just wanted to post this crazy video that I just found, but its from last year, so I had to make it 2006-2007 related for this thread :sssh:.)

Check out this video! I've watched it 10 times now.

I had never seen this before. Its from last season. Shaq vs. Bynum. First Shaq gets his, then Bynum gets him back and then they get into it and KOBE BRYANT of all people comes to play peacemaker.

YouTube - Andrew Bynum! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd-FLEDTfao&eurl=)

Man, Shaq doodoo'd on that guy! lol.

Man, Shaq doodoo'd on that guy! lol.

Yeah he did. But I love Bynum's reaction. The kid gets up, runs down the court, calls for the ball, gives Shaq a Shake-n-Bake slam then hops back down the court like a kid on Christmas, stares Shaq down and then bounces into him like he's in a mosh pit.

Priceless! :pound:

Yeah he did. But I love Bynum's reaction. The kid gets up, runs down the court, calls for the ball, gives Shaq a Shake-n-Bake slam then hops back down the court like a kid on Christmas, stares Shaq down and then bounces into him like he's in a mosh pit.

Priceless! :pound:

Very true. The average kid would have been severely deflated. Good for Bynum. Makes me wish he was on my team now.

Can the Pistons use Webber..yeah, bu the price and the baggage may be a bit much. He does want out of Philly though

Philadelphia Inquirer | 11/17/2006 | Webber wants trade, report says (http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/basketball/16032490.htm)

Funny to think that the Pistons could have ended up bringing Jalen and Chris back home this year.

Funny to think that the Pistons could have ended up bringing Jalen and Chris back home this year.

Mo Pete has lost his starting gig too. that could be 3...

I'm sure Juwan Howard could be had cheap...

Since three-fifths of the fab five were mentioned, where are Jimmy King and Ray Jackson these days and did Jackson ever play in the NBA?:lurking:

I'm sure Voshon Leonard can be had for cheap too.

I hadn't seen the Wizards' alternate unis (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/photo?slug=getty-71796749ml007_cavaliers_wiz_8_43_04_pm&prov=getty) until now...OMG. Those are flat-out horrible.

Though I do kind of dig the new Jazz alternate unis (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/photo?slug=getty-71796754mm017_suns_jazz_1_24_20_am&prov=getty).

Kobe had an awesome block on Deron Williams last night. The Lakers are really playing good team ball right now.

BTW, what the hell has got into Utah? They are playing awesome!!!!!!!!

Warriors-Nugs last night was insane: Denver won 140-129 at home.

I hadn't seen the Wizards' alternate unis (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/photo?slug=getty-71796749ml007_cavaliers_wiz_8_43_04_pm&prov=getty) until now...OMG. Those are flat-out horrible.

Though I do kind of dig the new Jazz alternate unis (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/photo?slug=getty-71796754mm017_suns_jazz_1_24_20_am&prov=getty).

Yeah i like the jazz uni's. Those wiz ones are cringe-worthy. They look like an under 16's outfit.
Reminds me of my junior basketball days where everyone had to wear black shorts with their team jerseys.

Seems like Nuggets and Warriors are adjusting the new Suns/Stern ball quicker than most

Kobe had an awesome block on Deron Williams last night. The Lakers are really playing good team ball right now.

BTW, what the hell has got into Utah? They are playing awesome!!!!!!!!
Reminds you of the 2004-05 Suns and 2005-06 Pistons...great starts ...unsatisfied finishes in the end.

Jazz have at least 6 come from behind wins where they were down double digit points. When you start to believe you are going to win, then the home games become automatic wins. Just think the Pistons were that close to beating thenm a couple of weeks ago if not for a bad start and a few questionable calls in the end.

Barring injury, the Jazz can probably get 55+wins.

Seems like Nuggets and Warriors are adjusting the new Suns/Stern ball quicker than most

Absolutely shooting the lights out last night. I couldn't believe all the jumpshots that hit nothing but net. I didn't know the Warriors could shoot the basketball like that. I was seriously impressed with that aspect of their game.

Absolutely shooting the lights out last night. I couldn't believe all the jumpshots that hit nothing but net. I didn't know the Warriors could shoot the basketball like that. I was seriously impressed with that aspect of their game.

Biedriens and J.R Smith were AWESOME!

Well, just one night after the bizarre occurrence of Ben Wallace grabbing zero rebounds in 20 minutes, we get Stephon Marbury playing 19 minutes and taking ZERO SHOTS--not a single attempt, either from the field or from the line! Now that's not something we're likely to see again. I'm pretty confident in guessing that he's never played a single game in his entire life without scoring any points, and here he went further by not even attempting a single shot.

Bulls-Knicks tonight was a very weird game, from what little I saw of it. The Bulls were killing them most of the way through, as the Knicks turned it over 26 (!) times, but they somehow mounted a big comeback and had a possession where they were only down 5 in the last two minutes, at which point...they turned it over. :laugh: Bulls went on to win 106-95, snapping their 6-game losing streak and wrapping up their grueling 7-game road trip. 8 of their next 9 games are at home, so we'll have a better idea of whether they can right the ship or not after they finish that long home stand.

Bobcats Waive Alan Anderson | HOOPSWORLD.com (http://www.hoopsworld.com/article_19627.shtml)

wow...sucks for anderson, but i wouldn't be surprised if he got picked up somewhere else. kid can ball.

pouty times not just in chicago...

Feud between Hill, bench boiling | TheNewsTribune.com | Tacoma, WA (http://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/story/6254968p-5459650c.html)

maybe joe should make an enquiry into earl watson?

I think he'd be just as unhappy here. maybe moreso.

I think he'd be just as unhappy here. maybe moreso.

true, but flips style might be just his thing, and he should be good enough to beat out flip murray for minutes. but it does sound like he wants to start.

pouty times not just in chicago...

Feud between Hill, bench boiling | TheNewsTribune.com | Tacoma, WA (http://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/story/6254968p-5459650c.html)

maybe joe should make an enquiry into earl watson?

After listening to my Seattle friend defend Ridnour and defame Watson, I have been watching Earl a little closer the last few games. Honestly, I don't think he's very good.

After listening to my Seattle friend defend Ridnour and defame Watson, I have been watching Earl a little closer the last few games. Honestly, I don't think he's very good.

2 years ago he was considered one of the top 5 defensive point guards in the league.

2 years ago he was considered one of the top 5 defensive point guards in the league.

Not sure what happened. The Sonics don't really play D, and Earl is no exception.

Maybe the right system or coach could restore him to his former glory. If his former glory is defense, I'm not sure Flip would be the coach to do that.

maybe joe should make an enquiry into earl watson?


"Meanwhile, the Sonics are contemplating trading Watson, who earlier this season said it might be better if he plays elsewhere because he is not suited to play 15 or 20 minutes a night on an inconsistent basis.

Watson is shooting a career-low 29.7 percent from the field and 24.4 percent from 3-point range, and he has been highly critical of Hill."

Or not.

"Meanwhile, the Sonics are contemplating trading Watson, who earlier this season said it might be better if he plays elsewhere because he is not suited to play 15 or 20 minutes a night on an inconsistent basis.

Watson is shooting a career-low 29.7 percent from the field and 24.4 percent from 3-point range, and he has been highly critical of Hill."

Or not.


yeah his shot has been off, i know, i had him in fantasy and promptly dropped him.
maybe he just needs a fresh start. but i kind of suggested this before i thought too much about it.
he might not work out here.

Wow, nice stat line from Fred Jones tonight.

16 minutes
0 PTS
0-0 FG
0-0 3PT
0-0 FT
0 REB
0 AST
0 TO
1 ST
5 PF

Well, at least he got a steal! hahaha

yah, i was gonna drop him for anthony parker (micro did this in the sleeper league), but that guy didn't do anything either. at least he didn't hurt us in FG% !! heh

Dallas put a beat down on the Raps last night.

Bargnani's games with a 3 pointer streak came to an end.

Since three-fifths of the fab five were mentioned, where are Jimmy King and Ray Jackson these days and did Jackson ever play in the NBA?:lurking:
Jimmy King was just on Jim Rome, and said that he is a Financial Advisor on Wall Street with Merril Lynch. Just FYI.

The Heat got an annoying victory tonight at the buzzer in Memphis. They overcame two cold-blooded 3s by Chucky Atkins in the last two minutes, as Posey hit an insanely lucky turnaround 3 off an inbounds with 1.8 seconds left for a 1-point win. Similar to the Pistons game the other night, Wade had a couple of chances to hit a go-ahead shot in the last minute, but he couldn't connect on them.

Actually, the Heat did deserve some luck right at the end, since they were (very unusually, as we all know) completely screwed by two HORRIBLE calls in the last 30 seconds. Udonis was called for a block on what was very clearly a charge, and then Dorrell Wright was called for a preposterously ticky-tack foul on the perimeter. We all would have been screaming bloody murder if either of those calls had gone against the Pistons in the final seconds of a close game.

Big game for Tyrus Thomas tonight. Ben Wallace has a good game and Tyrus pretty much matched him stat for stat.

Great headline


NBA.com (http://www.nba.com/games/20061206/MEMBOS/recap.html)

Great headline


NBA.com (http://www.nba.com/games/20061206/MEMBOS/recap.html)

LMAO! Now thats funny!

Great headline

NBA.com (http://www.nba.com/games/20061206/MEMBOS/recap.html)

:pound::pound::pound:

pouty times not just in chicago...

Feud between Hill, bench boiling | TheNewsTribune.com | Tacoma, WA (http://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/story/6254968p-5459650c.html)

maybe joe should make an enquiry into earl watson?

I went to a Sonics game tonight. I sat really close to the court and got a good look at the action. Ray Allen is injured, so Earl Watson recieved extended minutes. I take back everything I said about Earl. He plays extremely aggressive defense, sometimes a litte too much, but I would much rather see too much effort than not enough. He shot the ball well, found the open man, and is very fast. He makes some bad decisions here and there, but I don't think it's so bad that a little time and coaching effort couldn't correct it.

Just a heads-up for Laker watchers: they've had a really nice season so far, at 14-6, but 15 of their first 20 games have been at home, and at least one of those road games was "at" the Clippers. And now they have 8 of their next 10 on the road, including a 6-game trip to the midwest and east coast.

Mikki Moore just had a two handed putback slam. All kinds of high fiving, and finger twisting arm waving and players jumping into each other jumping.

Pretty funny to watch. He's put on some weight from when he was a Piston.

Fascinating game between Phoenix and Golden State last night. Suns jumped out on them in the first and just ran away - dunks, threes, blocks, steals, the whole package. First a 16-2 run, then a 14-8, then an 11-2 - amazing.

Then Nellie pulled the Wars back into a zone and Phoenix was completely stymied. GS goes 30-7, then 28-13, then 7-0 to take the lead in the third. 65-13 overall.

The Suns eventually came back, and barely edged out a win, but if you don't think that the zone is here to stay, you're just not paying attention.

Just a heads-up for Laker watchers: they've had a really nice season so far, at 14-6, but 15 of their first 20 games have been at home, and at least one of those road games was "at" the Clippers. And now they have 8 of their next 10 on the road, including a 6-game trip to the midwest and east coast.

Right now, Phil is the coach of the year (at least in California). Yeah they have played most of their games at Staples, but even when they appear to be heading for a loss, they have come back to either win or take the game in OT before losuing and made the fans here in LA all but forget about the underachieving Clippers.

Their role/bench players come through when needed. Luke Walton, Brian Cook, Jordan Farmar, Sasha V, kwame Brown a young Andrew Bynum & Mo Evans? Other than the latter, I don't think Flip would give any of these guys more than 5 mins if they were sitting on the Piston Bench... Flips plays them and Kobe trusts these guys, where in the past two seasons he didn't.

They were down to the Rockets Friday night by 17 only to come back and win on D-OT, and tonight again down 17 to the Wizards before eventually falling in OT.

It will be tough for the Lakers to keep up this momentum on the six game road trip without Lamar Odom, but who knows as the Bulls and the Magic are the only two teams they will play with a record above .500.

They have depth playing 11-12 players a night, but their defense is their liability

Amazing that Gilbert went for SIXTY last night, including 16 in OT alone! Wow. Yeah, we'll see what happens with the Lakers road trip, especially minus Odom, but they've definitely been getting it done of late.

Lakers.

One of my top 5 teams to watch:

1)Pistons ~ Self-explanatory
2)Golden St. ~ Exciting brand of basketball. Nellie has these guys putting up numbers!
3)Lakers ~ The Kobe Show is the greatest show on earth...youngin's fun to watch
4)Suns ~ How do you not like this team?
5)Knicks ~ Watching my favorite all-time Pistons player scramble to keep his job is entertaining in the "Flava of Love" type of way. I know its horrible televison,but I can't help but to watch.

I guess Captain Quirk had a sore right arm tonight. Only 10 of 30 from the field. He must also have really been sucking wind big time after chasing Obie-Wan around for 50 minutes last night it appears between that and the thin Rocky Mountain high atmosphere he couldn't keep up with the BB Gun.

ESPN.com - NBA - Box Score - Wizards at Nuggets (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=261218007)

:gun1::gun1:

Not worth a new thread...

YouTube - READ YAO'S LIPS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUy-A1BQAdI)

You can't f'ing stop me is what I am reading....

i like f'ing spaghetti?


he is 7'6 and the best trash talk he can do is 50 feet away walking backwards. well at least he's trying.

Not worth a new thread...

YouTube - READ YAO'S LIPS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUy-A1BQAdI)

is what I am reading....
Lip reading is tough, especially when it's in Chinese. I think what he said is "please forgive me for using my superior size and skill to make you look like a bozo."

Not worth a new thread...

YouTube - READ YAO'S LIPS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUy-A1BQAdI)

is what I am reading....

Good stuff. lol.

Didn't see these games, but two of the craziest second halves I can ever remember hearing about took place tonight:

-- Lakers were playing at Minnesota, and at halftime, the Lakers were up 2. Wolves outscored them 30-18 in the 3rd to take a 10 pt lead into the 4th. But then the Lakers outscored them 34-7 in the 4th to win by 27 points!

And that was positively normal compared to...

-- Utah was playing at Atlanta, and the Hawks were up 1 at halftime. Then Atlanta blew the Jazz away in the 3rd, 39-19, to extend their lead to 21 going into the 4th...only to see the Jazz outscore them 40-13 in the 4th quarter and win by 6!

Slight typo above; Lakers won by 17, not 27.

Watching the highlights from the Knicks' double-OT win over Charlotte, I saw something I don't think I'd ever seen before: a team actually managed to get a tip-in at the buzzer with 0.1 seconds on the clock. You can't catch and shoot with less than 0.3 sec on the clock, or it gets waved off automatically. With the game tied at 109 and the Knicks inbounding from midcourt, they lobbed it to David Lee in the lane, and he reached back and batted it in at the buzzer for the win.

David Lee has been a beast lately. His rebounding totals are through the roof.

-- Utah was playing at Atlanta, and the Hawks were up 1 at halftime. Then Atlanta blew the Jazz away in the 3rd, 39-19, to extend their lead to 21 going into the 4th...only to see the Jazz outscore them 40-13 in the 4th quarter and win by 6!

Since the start of December, Okur has hit 57.1 percent of his 42 attempts from beyond the arc. -CNNSI.com

The Suns winning streak ends at 15, at the hands of...the Wizards, of all teams. Not surprisingly, there was no defense at all--it was 144-139 in OT! Gilbert went for fifty-four, but Caron was the one who got to the bucket several times in a row to pull them ahead for good in OT. Wiz were able to put it away when Gilbert hit a three off the glass in the last minute!

The Suns winning streak ends at 15, at the hands of...the Wizards, of all teams. Not surprisingly, there was no defense at all--it was 144-139 in OT! Gilbert went for fifty-four, but Caron was the one who got to the bucket several times in a row to pull them ahead for good in OT. Wiz were able to put it away when Gilbert hit a three off the glass in the last minute!

Uh, oh D4E you know what this means right?

Folk around here are going to jack that bandwagon, after victories against the Suns and Sac..........on the road at that!

That win against the Suns is kind of impressive. To outrun them in their building, wow.....The Wiz still suck though.

Now back to our normal programming..........

Yeah, man. Bandwagon-a$% cats gonna be showin' up all over the place. :laugh:

You do have to admit that they've got a lot of firepower. Gilbert, Antawn, and Caron is a pretty fearsome three-headed-monster that can light it up against a lot of teams out there. But their complete inability to stop anyone is still going to prevent them from getting any farther than the 2nd round of the playoffs, at the best.

Yeah, man. Bandwagon-a$% cats gonna be showin' up all over the place. :laugh:

You do have to admit that they've got a lot of firepower. Gilbert, Antawn, and Caron is a pretty fearsome three-headed-monster that can light it up against a lot of teams out there. But their complete inability to stop anyone is still going to prevent them from getting any farther than the 2nd round of the playoffs, at the best.

I agree. I find it much easier to admit the Wiz are ok than to say anything positive about the Redskins..............:MusicBigGrin:

I'd much prefer it if talk radio around here would EVER talk about the Wizards. Instead it's all Redskins, all the time. :blah: :frusty:

I'd much prefer it if talk radio around here would EVER talk about the Wizards. Instead it's all Redskins, all the time. :blah: :frusty:

Trust me, it will be some Wizards, after this mini winning streak they are on. Mark it down........

Wizards beat the Suns in overtime. Gilbert scores 1000 points.

Now you have something to talk about!
:)

I didn't even hear them talking about the Wiz after Gilbert went for 60 in L.A. Admittedly, I only listen to DC talk radio while I'm driving home, so maybe they got to it during other parts of their broadcasts, but I didn't hear any of it.

A couple of other interesting results from last night: Bobcats beat Utah in Charlotte, and though they're only 7-18 now, the Bobcats seem to have a knack for beating division-leading/contending opponents. They've beaten Cleveland, San Antonio, the Pistons, New Jersey, Orlando, and now Utah...that's six out of their seven wins total! It's like a super-extreme version of the Pistons playing well in big games, but taking nights off and losing against scrubs.

Houston had lost 17 straight at San Antonio going into last night; their last win at SA was when they still had Hakeem, Clyde, and Barkley! But the Rockets dominated in San Antonio last night, 97-78.

Some random Standings stuff...

The Pistons' Central Division is the only division in the league where all teams are .500 or better. NY, NJ and Boston are all 1 game back.

The Atlantic is the worst division with no teams over .500. The Raptors are the "class" of the division with an unimpressive 12-16 record.

Miami is currently in 9th place in the conference. Sitting in 3rd place in their division. Man, I'd LOVE to see them miss the playoffs, but there's a lot of ball left to play.

Wow, what a finish in the Bulls-Suns game.

Nash fouls Ben Gordon on a jump shot with 5 odd seconds left, Gordon hits both to put the Bulls up two.

Leandro Barbosa comes down and hits a 3 pointer to take a one point lead with less than 2 seconds left.

1.5 to go. 97-96 PHX

Wow, what a finish in the Bulls-Suns game.

Nash fouls Ben Gordon on a jump shot with 5 odd seconds left, Gordon hits both to put the Bulls up two.

Leandro Barbosa comes down and hits a 3 pointer to take a one point lead with less than 2 seconds left.

1.5 to go. 97-96 PHX


Saw that game too and it appeared that Gordon's 41 points were enough to pull out this game for Da Bulls. Obviously they saw the Pistons-Suns tapes and held Nash in check scoring wise. He did dish out 13 assists, but only two 3 point attempts and 11 pts compared to the 35 he put up vs Flip jr & co. Still when he was in there, the Suns played more undercontrol and he put them in position to win the game. Wonder if CB took MVP notes?? Unfortunately he is not fast as Nash or can see the court like him.

By the way, the Bulls announcers were praying that Big Ben would make at least one of his FT's as he was at the line in the last minute and he missed both. Bulls had a 16 point lead at one time, but they have an excuse>>their starting point guard Heinrich was out too.. :)

Saw this article today, Mike Monroe, SA E-N, and thought it was interesting that there is a place out there where a player can go to get physical, spiritual and mental health when he is having problems. The article spoke specifically about Francis and Penny Hardaway. Excerpt:

How does a former NBA All-Star know his career is in its last gasp? He presents himself to former Spurs coach John Lucas to help him rehabilitate body, mind and spirit.

Knicks guard Steve Francis is the latest to report to Lucas at Houston's West Side Tennis Club, where he will begin this week trying to get his legs stronger, his shot on track and his spirit renewed.
It is his spirit that most needs mending now, every bit as much as his knees.
"You know I always can do that," Lucas said, punctuating the assertion with his raspy laugh.
"I think Stevie was actually beginning to play better," Lucas added. "A lot of this physical rehab should have been taken care of in the summer. Now we're paying the consequences, but we've got to get it taken care of."

Francis has been a bad fit in New York since the Magic traded him last February for talented young guard Trevor Ariza and Penny Hardaway's expiring contract, a deal that ranks somewhere near the top of the long list of horrid trades Knicks general manager Isiah Thomas has made.
Francis has missed 12 games this season but has played a bigger role recently after post-brawl suspensions left the Knicks short of players. Mostly, this season has been a wipe-out for the former All-Star. That the Knicks would allow him to leave the team during a road trip to work out with Lucas, instead of with the team's trainers and coaches, speaks volumes. It could be a pre-cursor to buying Francis out of his contract, though the Knicks already bought out Jalen Rose's contract a little more than a month ago.

"That's the million dollar question," Lucas said. "Are they going to buy him out? They've got so much money and problems up there, you just have to wait and see. But, hey, if they bought out Larry Brown like that, they'll buy out anybody."

Lucas has worked wonders with athletes battling demons worse than aching knees and flagging spirits. He has helped many overcome substance-abuse problems, while simultaneously getting their games in shape.

I'm glad there is someone out there that has the ability to help a guy who is struggling. It seems Lucas is the last resort, the guys have just stopped listening to their team leaders. Maybe it is a matter of trust.

Breaking news from Miami: Pat Riley announced leave of absence. Seems he is going to have knee and hip surgeries, feels this is good time to take it. Yeah, right. Speculation he has been depressed about team losses. Hey, its a natural letdown after winning a ship and then not showing up for follow up. What do you guys think?

Ron Rothstein taking over as coach?

Link me BSA!

From Riley:
"I'm just tired of the pain and the medication," said Riley, who said there is no timetable for when he would like to return.
But he insisted he plans to be back with the defending champions.
"I'm going to be displaced for a while, but not disconnected at all," Riley said.
And top assistant Ron Rothstein will fill his spot on an interim basis.
link:
Heat coach Riley takes leave of absence - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070103/ap_on_sp_bk_ne/bkn_heat_riley_leave_6)

Here's another link as well as a vid.

ESPN.com - NBA - Heat coach Riley taking leave, will have surgery (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2718720)

Even if the Heat stay at this horrible pace they'll make the playoffs. The East is absolutely horrible. Pistons should be dominating them. I know that they might not be pumped up for these games, but stick your foor on their throat.

Larry Brown is returning to Sixers as Executive VP.

ESPN.com - NBA - Brown returning to Philadelphia as executive VP (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2721960)

They traded Iverson for a bunch of picks. Larry Brown has been hired the year that they plan on grabbing 3 picks from the first round? God help them.

They hired him "to work on special projects." He is a special project.

Mavericks won in San Antonio last night. Since starting the season 0-4, Dallas has won 27 out of their last 30 games. :eek: But guess who their only home loss in that streak came against...:whoo:

Mavericks won in San Antonio last night. Since starting the season 0-4, Dallas has won 27 out of their last 30 games. :eek: But guess who their only home loss in that streak came against...:whoo:

Dallas is playing like a well oiled machine. If you look at that team the last few years they have made a steady improvement towards that ship.

They finally made it to the Finals last year, in Avery Johnson`s first full year, I believe. Now in his second year they are rolling.

The Mav`s aren`t afraid of the Spurs anymore, their hometown nemisis, which has given them a ton of confidence.

At the present time, if they come out of the West, nobody in the East can prevent them from capturing their first title.

Watched the Heat / Suns game this morning. Chris Quinn got twelve minutes, about two thirds in garbage time after Jason Williams got tossed. He was picked up by the Heat as an undrafted free agent after four years at Notre Dame. Point guard.

Nice looking kid. Takes the ball hard to the hoop, decent defender, but seemed to have (as much as a few minutes will tell you) a nice feel for the game. Threw some nice passes, included a couple to set up a pass to set up a shot, a pass to get a better passing angle into the post.

He could play some serious minutes at the point for Miami in a year or two.

Nuggets deal Boykins, Hodge to Bucks for Blake

ESPN.com - NBA - Nuggets deal Boykins in three-player swap (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2727760)

Seems like a good deal for all parties involved.

Boykins has been playing great lately. It seems like he has been a big part of Denver's success too. We'll see if they have a drop off now.

This doesn't seem like a very smart move for Denver. Boykins has played some of the best ball of his career since AI arrived, and he's a bargain at 3 million. They may regret this come playoff time. But I'm biased--I caught a bunch of his games at Bowen Field House and he's been one of my favorites ever since.

Boykins is one guy that could have backed up Billups. Too bad we couldn't have sent Davis or even Dice back to Denver for Boykins before this trade went off. The Bucks are hurting so they really needed this one...

. Boykins has played some of the best ball of his career since AI arrived, and he's a bargain at 3 million. They may regret this come playoff time. But I'm biased--I caught a bunch of his games at Bowen Field House and he's been one of my favorites ever since.

Hey lurker did you go to EMU? I went there too, but back in the 70's....then it was known as the party school:djparty:

Hey lurker did you go to EMU? I went there too, but back in the 70's....then it was known as the party school:djparty:
Yeah, I was there for a couple of years in the early Bad Boys era. I went to another green and white school too, but I usually keep it quiet so I can stay out of all of the food fights around here.

Yeah, I was there for a couple of years in the early Bad Boys era. I went to another green and white school too, but I usually keep it quiet so I can stay out of all of the food fights around here.

**Hands you a baked potato to throw at you know who**

Anybody think its more than a coincidence that Kidd and Carter are both in the middle of divource? I remember Reggie Miller was talking about his as well. It'd be interesting to find out how many players go through divources as they reach closer to their contract years (to keep the wives' money-grubby hands off their new paycheck).

Must be a harsh life knowing that your husband's cheating on you with gorgeous women all across North America.

From Truehoop (http://www.truehoop.com/washington-wizards-69375-tuesday-bullets.html)

And Dan Steinberg urges you (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2007/01/gilbert_makes_a_big_shot_weird.html) to watch that final play (http://nba.aolsportsblog.com/2007/01/15/the-jazz-feels-the-phenomenal-swag-of-gilbert-arenas/) (it's also here (http://bulletsforever.com/story/2007/1/16/34326/2203)) again: "One of the under-discussed points of the final shot was this: what was Antonio Daniels doing? Did you notice this? He crossed his arms behind his back and then bent over forward. He did that before the shot went up, and he didn't flinch after the ball went through. Was he praying? Stretching? Playing charades? No. 1 on my list of questions for this morning." Looks to me like he was getting in position to be launched from an invisible cannon.

Pretty funny. Watch Daniels in the baseline corner at the beginning of the video. Personally, I think he is the biggest devotee of the Church of Hibachi (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16460000/), Agent Zero style.

Seems like none of the other wizards guys on the court were too overjoyed by the basket. I have to admit I'd be pretty indifferent if I felt like I had no chance of contributing to the win.

Anybody think its more than a coincidence that Kidd and Carter are both in the middle of divource?

You think maybe it is a Brokeback Mountain sort of thing?

Jason: You got your ex-wife and your baby in Orlando and, you know, I got my life in New Jersey. Vince: Is it so? You and Joumana, that's a life. Jason: Now you shut up about Joumana. This ain't her fault. The bottom line is...we're around each other and...this thing grabs hold of us again...in the wrong place...in the wrong time...we're dead.

Seems like none of the other wizards guys on the court were too overjoyed by the basket. I have to admit I'd be pretty indifferent if I felt like I had no chance of contributing to the win.

I hadn't noticed this until you pointed out, but not one other Wizard player on the floor seemed to react with any excitement when that shot went down. Strange.

Some more classic Arenas quotes. Its hard to dislike the guy, he is so funny. He is already predicting when his next 50 point game will be.

NBA.com NBA.com Blog: Gilbert Arenas (http://www.nba.com/blog/gilbert_arenas.html)

So the much-hyped Suns-Wizards game in DC was over before it started, with Phoenix leading 41-20 after the first quarter, on their way to a 127-105 shellacking of the local pretenders.

DLev, might you have some thoughts on this one? :boink:

So the much-hyped Suns-Wizards game in DC was over before it started, with Phoenix leading 41-20 after the first quarter, on their way to a 127-105 shellacking of the local pretenders.

DLev, might you have some thoughts on this one? :boink:

The Mavs had an easy time with Magic too, although there was a slight let down at end the of the third quarter.

Which means that the # 1 & 2 teams in the league, which happen to reside in the wild-wild western conference ran both of the #1 and #4 teams of the eastern conference right out of their own Arenas (Gilbert). :) So much for parity.

The east has a long way to catch up and our Pistons have to take advantage of other teams short comings. In other words lets hope that the return of CB and the insertion of Cwebb gives the Pistons the opportunity tomorrow to run the Bobcats out their arena tomorrow as payback to the prior two loses to this team.

A little OT, but has anybody been watching CHI lately. Ben Wallace has been sitting in the 4th quarters (not by choice), and doesn't seem to care. He gets up, hi-fives his team and stands in the time-out huddles. He was quoted saying "their small line-up does a good job"

He must REALLY like Skiles . . .

So the much-hyped Suns-Wizards game in DC was over before it started, with Phoenix leading 41-20 after the first quarter, on their way to a 127-105 shellacking of the local pretenders.

DLev, might you have some thoughts on this one? :boink:

We knew what was coming D4E, and I really feel for the folk that have a temporary pass on the Wiz bandwagon. They will be very dissapointed in a few months.

The hype on this game was ubelievable, I heard some people say this could be The Nba Finals matchup!!!

Let`s face it, they do play the type of ball Stern is pushing for and it is fun to watch, however, IMO neither will win a championship this year.

Second round of playoffs is the furthest the Wiz will get, and they better have HC advantage (occupy one of the four top seeds) to make it there, or it`s out in the first round. You heard it here first.

BTW, Pleeeease let the Pistons beat this team, BOTH upcoming games!!!!!!!:MusicBigGrin:

We knew what was coming D4E, and I really feel for the folk that have a temporary pass on the Wiz bandwagon. They will be very dissapointed in a few months.



It's only a regular season game Dlev. We both know how much that means.

I still believe both teams have a good chance to go deep into the playoffs. I don't think the Wizards will win the East,but I think they will win one round for sure and maybe make it to the ECF.

Phoenix? I like Dallas AND Phoenix in the west. I'm also curious to see what Denver will do.

Anyhow, I can't find where anybody said Washington will win it all, or even win the East. But give them credit. They do have a good team.

It's only a regular season game Dlev. We both know how much that means.

I still believe both teams have a good chance to go deep into the playoffs. I don't think the Wizards will win the East,but I think they will win one round for sure and maybe make it to the ECF.

Phoenix? I like Dallas AND Phoenix in the west. I'm also curious to see what Denver will do.

Anyhow, I can't find where anybody said Washington will win it all, or even win the East. But give them credit. They do have a good team.

What you see from the Wiz during the regular season is what you are going to get from them in the postseason, if not worse.

For the Wiz to advance past round one they better secure a top seed, or else see ya, in the first round. They can`t win on the road!

Not saying anyone said the Wiz would win it all, something I read in the USA Today just came to mind, it said and I quote, "this could be a preview of the NBA Finals", refering to the Suns/Wiz game the other night. I must say, I almost lost my lunch on that one............:pound:

BTW,I will admit, they are playing well, right now.

What you see from the Wiz during the regular season is what you are going to get from them in the postseason, if not worse.

For the Wiz to advance past round one they better secure a top seed, or else see ya, in the first round. They can`t win on the road!

Not saying anyone said the Wiz would win it all, something I read in the USA Today just came to mind, it said and I quote, "this could be a preview of the NBA Finals", refering to the Suns/Wiz game the other night. I must say, I almost lost my lunch on that one............:pound:

BTW,I will admit, they are playing well, right now.

I thought they did well last year in the second round of the playoffs against Cleveland, despite Lebron getting all the whistles. Maybe Arenas got some too, but I assume not.


Anyhow, here's to a Pistons and...(fill in the blank) final.:cheers:

Suns Steve Nash just had 15 assists and no turnovers as the Suns ran all over the Cavaliers.

The dude is making a serious bid to be a 3 time MVP.

Suns Steve Nash just had 15 assists and no turnovers as the Suns ran all over the Cavaliers.

The dude is making a serious bid to be a 3 time MVP.

No doubt. If he records another 50-40-90 season its a lock.

Shooting over 50% from 3 while averaging over 2.5 3's per game is just ridiculous.

Kevin Garnett just scored 44 points on the Suns. And won.

This is pretty funny...

Sonics Insider - Arena delayed (mavs pregame) (http://blogs.thenewstribune.com/sonics/?title=arena_delayed_mavs_pregame&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1)

Funny story Bob told: Earlier this year, the team had a breakfast meeting at the hotel on the road. Chris Wilcox showed up in a robe, so Hill fined him -- just for being ridiculous. At a team meeting yesterday, Sene shows up in baggy shorts, a button-up shirt buttoned all the way to the neck, a gold chain and flip flops. Wilcox turns to Hill and says, "If I got fined for the robe, he should get fined for that outfit." Hill made Sene stand up in front of the team but did not fine him. Embarrassment may have been punishment enough.

I asked Bob if the D league is a guard-oriented league. He said he asked Sene if they had any plays for him. Sene told him they had one play for him, ran it the first game he played and did not run it again the rest of the time he played there. I guess that means it's a guard-oriented league.

Arenas only just came up short on his 50 point prediction.

By 41 points. Lol. Nice one Agent 9.

Arenas only just came up short on his 50 point prediction.

By 41 points. Lol. Nice one Agent 9.

I noticed this as well. It's a good day for the leaders of the East when the competition heads out to Portland and gets whooped.

I noticed this as well. It's a good day for the leaders of the East when the competition heads out to Portland and gets whooped.

Well the game was actually in Washington. Stevenson led the Wiz with 12 points. Paltry seems like an appropriate word to use here.

Don't know if anyone noticed or cared, but Julius Hodge, the Nuggets 2005 1st round pick, who was later traded to Milwaukee with Earl Boykins for Steve Blake, was waived by the Bucks.

It's pretty rare to see a mid-late first rounder get waived in only his second year.

Arenas fallout

Bad gets worse - Wizards Insider (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/wizardsinsider/2007/02/bad_gets_worse.html)

I know Eddie Jones is 35 years old and Joe D had no thought of even seeing if he was available for stretch run when he was languishing on the Grizzlies bench. I just hope he is not the factor that gets the Heat going. I mean they missed out on trying to sign Webber and Rose and finally found someone to beef up their bench. I know we will have to sacrifice PT for one of our yunguns, but even if Joe cannot find the backup pg. he still has to find some vet that can shore up the bench even when Hunter is out there with them:),

I heard a couple of weeks ago the Suns offered Jalen another buy out but he preferred to stay there and see if he can get that ring even without playing and contributing. He has seen action on the court only twice in the last 16 games scoring 7 points and 2 assists. (including last nights loss to the Bulls.)

Arenas fallout

Bad gets worse - Wizards Insider (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/wizardsinsider/2007/02/bad_gets_worse.html)

As soon as the kid gains my respect (a little bit) he goes straight up idiotic on me...........

As soon as the kid gains my respect (a little bit) he goes straight up idiotic on me...........

Looks like maybe you were right Dlev.

They have talent, but if they fold this easily both on AND off the court with Jamison going out only a few days ago then it certainly doesn't appear they can go very far in the playoffs.

Looks like maybe you were right Dlev.

They have talent, but if they fold this easily both on AND off the court with Jamison going out only a few days ago then it certainly doesn't appear they can go very far in the playoffs.

Maybe??

Trust me, come playoff time (or before) they will fold like a lawn chair!

Orlando and/or Miami will catch and takeover the lead in their division.

I attended the Knicks-Lakers game last night to see if the lakers couLd over come their road woes and win one at home and to see if Zekes knicks are for real.

Well just as some of us suspected a few weeks ago, the Lakers are Fakers. All of those early wins were based on them outscoring teams at home who had not got their team's chemistry together yet.

Even though the game was close and the Knicks won on an alley-oop to Curry in the last seven seconds, they were able to penetrate the Laker interior defense at will. Starbury, Francis, and Crawford drove right by Smush and the reserves to take over the game in the second half. Richarson took care of the perimeter with uncontested shots. The game was only close because the Knicks missed 9 FT's and the lakers hit 11 three pointers. (they shot 27 of them as that is normally their biggest weapon when kobe is sitting.)

The lakers defense is non-existent and talk radio is allover them today blaming everyone from Phil just now trying to talk defense at midseason, to Lamar Odom not being ready to blaming the 4 game losing streak due to the loss of all-pros Luke walton and Kwame Brown to injury.:)

Meanwhile zeke's boys are a scrappy over achieving bunch who have already matched last year's LB team in wins and are only 3 games out of the final playoff spot. (Watchout Indy and orlando).

Meanwhile Big ben was paid $60 million to turn the Bulls around and they are only 5 games ahead of last years schedule. His numbers are 6.2 ppg, 10.3 rpg and 2 blocks. Well the guy he replaced, Tyson Chandler who pulled down 23 boards last night is putting up better numbers than Ben at 8ppg, 12.1 rpg and 1.8 blocks.

I know it's all relative but if the Bulls don't make it to the second round, some in Chitown will be quick to look at Chandlers numbers if they are better than Bens at year end and the Hornets manage to grab the 8th spot and take the Mavs to at least 5 games before succumbing:)

Maybe??

Trust me, come playoff time (or before) they will fold like a lawn chair!

Orlando and/or Miami will catch and takeover the lead in their division.
Dlev, Tater has a serious man-crush on Agent Zero and watches basketball entirely through stat-tracker.

Thanks for the Zekes vs. Fakers re-cap, Dre. Interesting stuff.

Dlev, Tater has a serious man-crush on Agent Zero and watches basketball entirely through stat-tracker.

LOL, I bet DT gets his heart broken by the end of the season!!!!!!!!!!!:faint:

LOL, I bet DT gets his heart broken by the end of the season!!!!!!!!!!!:faint:


Nah. If the Wiz go down, I won't care. I'll go for the Jazz.

Nah. If the Wiz go down, I won't care. I'll go for the Jazz.

Ah ha!! I knew that was a temporary pass on that Wiz Bandagon!!!!

Ready to bail out ey????


:bolt:

Ah ha!! I knew that was a temporary pass on that Wiz Bandagon!!!!

Ready to bail out ey????


:bolt:

Sure, why not. My loyalties lie with the Pistons.

Moreso with the Lightning.

Moreso with the Lightning.

You got THAT right!

St. Louis to Lecavalier...he shoots...he scoooooooorrrrrrrrresssssssss!:cheerlie-GOAL:

HAHAHA Did anyone catch the Heat vs. Rockets game tonight?

In the 4th Q, Shaq dunked on Mutombo and gave him a finger wag... then promptly got T'd up.

Also, Wade left early in the 4th with an arm injury. They showed him being pushed in a wheelchair down the back hallways. A security guard was trying to block the camera man from filming.
All in all a very entertaining 4th!:pound:

HAHAHA Did anyone catch the Heat vs. Rockets game tonight?

In the 4th Q, Shaq dunked on Mutombo and gave him a finger wag... then promptly got T'd up.

Also, Wade left early in the 4th with an arm injury. They showed him being pushed in a wheelchair down the back hallways. A security guard was trying to block the camera man from filming.
All in all a very entertaining 4th!:pound:

I wonder if Pat Riley's hip is going to start acting up again suddenly? :stirthepot:

I wonder if Pat Riley's hip is going to start acting up again suddenly? :stirthepot:

I am not sure if it was a dislocated shoulder or what but the pain must have been severe as Wade appeared to be crying. If it is serious enough to sideline Wade for at least 10 games, then riles will be crying again and will quickly hand the reins back over to Rothstein until Wade returns.

Any chance of these guys actually missing the playoffs?

They are tied for the last spot right now.


How do they play without Wade? A 3-7 stretch would put them in a tough position.

On the other hand, it may put them in the first round against us.

The Lakers are reeling right now. Their loss at home last night against Portland was their 6th in a row, and it's the longest losing streak of Phil's NBA career.

Ben Wallace Stats from Bulls/Cavs Thursday Night

44 Minutes 14 Points 6-8 Field Goals 2-2 Free Throws
9 Offensive Rebounds 19 Total Rebounds 1 Turnover 1 Personal Foul
5 Assists 2 Steals 7 Blocks
Wallace scored 14 points with 19 rebounds, a season-high seven blocks and two huge free throws in the final minutes to lead the Chicago Bulls (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/chi/) to an 84-78 win over the Cleveland Cavaliers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/cle/) on Thursday night. Wallace, playing one of his best all-around games since signing as a free agent with the Bulls, dominated inside as Chicago snapped a six-game losing streak in Cleveland and improved to 8-2 in the Central....After a fadeaway jumper by Deng in the foul lane gave the Bulls a 78-73 lead, Wallace, a 41 percent free throw shooter, stepped up to the line and swished his only two attempts of the game.

NBA - Chicago Bulls/Cleveland Cavaliers Recap Thursday February 22, 2007 - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/recap?gid=2007022205)

How many Darko Points (http://www.pistonsforum.com/detroit-pistons-general-discussion/4750-darko-expert-licensing-exam-43.html#post74240) is that? :nerd2:

Mikki Moore
Mikki Moore - New Jersey Nets - News - NBA - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3308/news)
Moore had 19 points on 9-for-14 shooting in the Nets' 101-92 win over the Knicks on Sunday. "I've been struggling with my jump shot over the last couple of games," Moore said. "But yesterday, I got in 3,000 jump shots, 1,500 before practice and then 1,500 after. The shot felt good tonight and the guys got me the ball in the right areas.3,000 jump shots in one day. Now that is a commitment to getting better.

I think if I took 3000 jumpshots in one day, my arm would fall off.

I was watching the cavs play against Miami. man, the cavs look terrible. its like they lack something and it takes the team out of its game.

I was watching the cavs play against Miami. man, the cavs look terrible. its like they lack something and it takes the team out of its game.

A point guard?

At least I think that's a big part of their problem, though I'm not sure LBJ is the leader they need him to be either.

Could also just be that any team with Larry Hughes and Damon Jones together is going to struggle.

How many Darko Points (http://www.pistonsforum.com/detroit-pistons-general-discussion/4750-darko-expert-licensing-exam-43.html#post74240) is that? :nerd2:

61. Not too shabby.

popcornmachine has a similar stat that adds points to hv, which is (rebounds + assists + steals + blocks - turnovers)/minutes. They call it efficiency I think.

Brian Cardinal likely done for the season...
Memphis Commercial Appeal - Memphis' Source for News and Information: Grizzlies (http://www.commercialappeal.com/mca/grizzlies/article/0,1426,MCA_475_5383229,00.html)


Cedric Maxwell is an idiot
Cedric draws a "T": Maxwell to say "Sorry" for personal foul - Business - BostonHerald.com (http://business.bostonherald.com/businessNews/view.bg?articleid=185385&format=text)


The Bulls are desperate enough to talk to Antonio Davis and Toni Kukoc
Daily Herald | Chicago Bulls Notes (http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/bulls.asp?id=285745)


Reggie Miller to Dallas?
Star-Telegram | 02/28/2007 | MAVERICKS PLAYBOOK (http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/16799949.htm)

i don't blame maxwell for saying taht. violet palmer is one of the worst refs ever.

i don't blame maxwell for saying taht. violet palmer is one of the worst refs ever.

Then he should have criticized her officiating, not her gender.

He should have at the very least been fined.

Then he should have criticized her officiating, not her gender.

He should have at the very least been fined.

I wonder what Maxwell`s wife or girlfriend thought about his comment. With logic like that he probably doesn`t have either!!!!!!

Any insult that begins with "why don't you just go back to..." typically gets the speaker in trouble.

But one does have to wonder why she was out of the kitchen... :stirthepot::MusicBigGrin:

Surprised he didn't pull out the ol joke.
Q. Why did the woman cross the road?
A. Never mind that! What was she doing out of the kitchen?!

Or in this case the equality version should be:
A. To get to the basketball game and referee and get the C.R.E.A.M.

Some off color or gender or politically incorrect comments get some people fired or they are asked to resign.

Maxwell's apology should have included some community service like cleaning her kitchen.:)

Interesting article by Sam Smith about Chicago's first failure to launch back in the summer. Not sure exactly how they could have paid Garnett and still signed Ben, but if Sam says so...

Expert: Garnett-Wolves marriage won't end well - NBA - MSNBC.com (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17393716/)

The Heat can move to within 1 1/2 games of the Wiz with a win this evening. At the moment the Heat are holding on to the 6th seed, the Wiz the #3 seed.

As I said earlier, is there any doubt the Heat will win that division? With or without Wade..........

BTW, the game is on NBA TV at 6:00 PM tonight.

Heard him a couple of times now and Mark Jackson is a pretty good broadcaster. I hope ABC sticks with him for a while.

I flipped over to the end of the Wizards' OT loss at home to the Raptors tonight during the Pistons-Nets game, but OMG, I had no idea how badly the Wizards choked to let it get into OT in the first place. I just saw the highlights on ESPN. This description is from the Washington Post's game re-cap:

After leading for most of the fourth quarter, the Wizards appeared to have the game wrapped up. After Arenas (34 points on 9-of-29 shooting) made two free throws to give the Wizards a three-point lead with 3.8 seconds remaining, the Raptors were forced to inbound the ball from underneath their own basket because they were out of timeouts.

Anthony Parker's long pass lofted harmlessly in the air, was deflected and grabbed near the three-point line at the Washington end by forward Michael Ruffin.

Ruffin landed with the ball but then attempted to throw it high into the air toward the other end of the court. Instead, the ball slipped out of Ruffin's right hand and landed directly in the hands of Toronto guard Morris Peterson, who had not played the entire game.

With Caron Butler running at him, Peterson half-shot, half-heaved the ball toward the rim, releasing it just before the buzzer sounded. To the amazement of Ruffin, the Wizards, the sellout crowd and Peterson himself, the shot went in from 31 feet.

"My natural reaction was to just throw the ball in the air and let time run out but I didn't get a good throw on it and there was a little more time than I thought," Ruffin said. "When I threw it, it kind of slipped off my palm. I didn't get a good grip on it."
It was a completely ridiculous play, and actually almost as unlikely as the steal-and-heave Sheed miracle against the Nuggets.

I flipped over to the end of the Wizards' OT loss at home to the Raptors tonight during the Pistons-Nets game, but OMG, I had no idea how badly the Wizards choked to let it get into OT in the first place. I just saw the highlights on ESPN. This description is from the Washington Post's game re-cap:

It was a completely ridiculous play, and actually almost as unlikely as the steal-and-heave Sheed miracle against the Nuggets.

Yeah in that situation Ruffin was supposed to hold on to it and get fouled or check the clock first and if he just had to throw it, toss it high enough in the air so that the clock will run out before it falls.. If the Wiz don't rebound they will reaaly look back at this loss and that play if it affects their seeding.

I flipped over to the end of the Wizards' OT loss at home to the Raptors tonight during the Pistons-Nets game, but OMG, I had no idea how badly the Wizards choked to let it get into OT in the first place. I just saw the highlights on ESPN. This description is from the Washington Post's game re-cap:

It was a completely ridiculous play, and actually almost as unlikely as the steal-and-heave Sheed miracle against the Nuggets.

D4E are you surprised?

It`s the Wizards, remember................:lol:

A team of destiny or should I say a team of infamy!!!!!:pound:

Mikki Moore
Mikki Moore - New Jersey Nets - News - NBA - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3308/news)
3,000 jump shots in one day. Now that is a commitment to getting better.

One jump shot every 2 seconds would be 6,000 seconds which is is 100 minutes.

My guess is that he is probably shooting between an hour and 90 minutes before and after the game.

:hoops:

Brian Cardinal likely done for the season...
Memphis Commercial Appeal - Memphis' Source for News and Information: Grizzlies (http://www.commercialappeal.com/mca/grizzlies/article/0,1426,MCA_475_5383229,00.html)


Cedric Maxwell is an idiot
Cedric draws a "T": Maxwell to say "Sorry" for personal foul - Business - BostonHerald.com (http://business.bostonherald.com/businessNews/view.bg?articleid=185385&format=text)


The Bulls are desperate enough to talk to Antonio Davis and Toni Kukoc
Daily Herald | Chicago Bulls Notes (http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/bulls.asp?id=285745)


Reggie Miller to Dallas?
Star-Telegram | 02/28/2007 | MAVERICKS PLAYBOOK (http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/16799949.htm)

I don't know. It could be that he has eaten this woman's cooking and it it could be that it is a hell of a lot better than her officiating, which probably isn't saying much

Cedric is a funny dude. One tough ball player though.

:hoops:

Tyrus Thomas had his career high today with 25 points (or something like that). It was all dunks and free throws.

I'm telling ya, this guy is changing the Bulls team. They are going to be tougher than their record indicates.

Raptors make the playoffs for the first time in 5 seasons.

This is a scary team in the East. Really underrated. Best record in the East since Jan 1.

Raptors make the playoffs for the first time in 5 seasons.

This is a scary team in the East. Really underrated. Best record in the East since Jan 1.

What about the loss of Garbabosa though?

Will this just open the door for more Bargnani PT?

Caron Butler broke his finger. Expects to possibly make it back for the second or third round of the playoffs.

Dwyane Wade had his first scheduled workout today. Hopes to return for the last week of the season.

Mike Miller likely to shut it down for the season so the Grizzlies can tank.

Lebron has tendinitis in his right knee.

Adrian Dantley will coach the Nuggets Tuesday as George Karl takes a leave of absence to see his son, who had surgery today on cancerous lymph nodes.

Big Shot Rob Horry keeps straining his abdominal muscles.

Henry Abbott from TrueHoop has some interesting info on the western playoff race. The Lakers, Suns and egad, the Jason Hart Clippers.

ESPN.com: TrueHoop (http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-23-55/Spicey-Little-Western-Playoff-Picture.html)

Henry Abbott from TrueHoop has some interesting info on the western playoff race. The Lakers, Suns and egad, the Jason Hart Clippers.

Thanks for this great site about West playoffs. I am rooting for GSW for 8th, would love to see them play AND BEAT Mavs. Don Nelson has so much vengeance in his heart for Dallas and always beats them. Wow, what a finale, Spurs v. GSW, and it would be a fight, because even tho we beat them it is always a struggle. :)

(sorry if this is dup, I think I lost my post)

Henry Abbott from TrueHoop has some interesting info on the western playoff race. The Lakers, Suns and egad, the Jason Hart Clippers.

Thanks for this great site about West playoffs. I am rooting for GSW for 8th, would love to see them play AND BEAT Mavs. Don Nelson has so much vengeance in his heart for Dallas and always beats them. Wow, what a finale, Spurs v. GSW, and it would be a fight, because even tho we beat them it is always a struggle. :)

(sorry if this is dup, I think I lost my post)

Barb, I think the Warriors can beat the Mavs too in the a first round matchup...They have already done it 2-3 times this season. That would really be an upset of major proportions. That of course would make it easier for your Spurs to get to the big dance.:)

Also would like to see the Clippers grab the 7th spot and see the Kobes sitting out this post season, but I know that won't happen.

I am totally primed for a warriors-mavs matchup. I hate to see sweeps in the 1st round and could be a big test for the mavs. a suns-lakers rematch would also be an entertaining 1st round matchup. spurs-nuggets is also enticing, as is a rockets-jazz clash.

thats my hope for the 1st round in the west.

in the east i want a bulls-heat matchup in the 1st round. other than that i don't care who else plays each other.

I just want to point out the sickening box score of Dwight Howard today...

35 points on 14-15 shooting... or should I say dunking.
7-10 from the free throw line
11 rebounds
5 assists
3 steals


My question is, has anyone ever scored more points while missing 0 or 1 shots?

Wilt would probably be the first place I would look, but it would be a hard one to research.

Edit: here is the best I could find.
December 8, 1961
Larry Costello of the Syracuse Nationals scored 32 straight points without missing-- 13 field goals and six free throws.

September 17, 2007 EL SEGUNDO - The Los Angeles Lakers have signed free agent forward Elton Brown (http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfile/elton_brown/index.html), it was announced today.

Brown was a member of the NBDL’s Colorado 14ers during the 2006-07 season, where he averaged 18.4 points, 9.6 rebounds and 2.1 assists in 50 games.

http://http://www.nba.com/lakers/news/070917_lakers_sign_elton_brown.html?rss=true (http://http//www.nba.com/lakers/news/070917_lakers_sign_elton_brown.html?rss=true)

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HAHAHA I thought this thread said Elton BRAND. I was like WTF?!?!?!?! :pound::pound::pound:

HAHAHA I thought this thread said Elton BRAND. I was like WTF?!?!?!?! :pound::pound::pound:Yeah, it had me goin for a second too! :D

Me three.

HAHAHA I thought this thread said Elton BRAND. I was like WTF?!?!?!?! :pound::pound::pound:

If it was Elton Brand, it would have actually warranted a new thread.

HAHAHA I thought this thread said Elton BRAND. I was like WTF?!?!?!?! :pound::pound::pound:

Brand just started or will shortly start wearing a special boot for his repaired left Achilles tendon. They said he would be wearing it for 6 weeks.

If he plays at all this year it probably won't be until the second half of the season.



September 18, 2007
Elton Brand Medical Update

Los Angeles Clippers' forward Elton Brand had his surgically repaired left Achilles tendon re-examined today by Dr. Craig Morgan at Christiana Care’s Wilmington Hospital in Wilmington, Delaware. During the examination Brand had the cast removed from his left leg and was fitted for a removable walking boot which he is expected to wear for the next six weeks.

The link is from the Clippers NBA website, not the Lakers.

CLIPPERS: Elton Brand Medical Update (http://www.nba.com/clippers/news/brand_update_070917.html?rss=true)


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HAHAHA I thought this thread said Elton BRAND. I was like WTF?!?!?!?! :pound::pound::pound:
I thought it said Elton John. At least the guy you thought of is a basketball player.

You got me there too. I was wondering why it would not be bigger news if Elton Brand signed with the Lakers.