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webz
12-29-2006, 04:12 PM
Ok, so its very early in the season but the reason I'm bringing it up is because I checked on Steve Nash's stats today.

There was a lot of conjecture last season about Nash going back to back. The argument for him winning back to back was the fact he improved on his first MVP season, so to not give him the MVP again when he had a better season would be illogical. Add that to the fact that nobody really stepped up to make a big claim - apart from maybe Kobe.

So the point I'm about to make is, if Nash once again improves his play from last season and the Suns are successful again, does that mean he should win a 3rd straight MVP? Its going to be very interesting because that is indeed the case so far.

Breakdown:
Points - 20.0 (+1.1)
Assists - 11.4 (+0.9)
Rebounds - 3.2 (-1.0)
Steals - 0.9 (+0.1)
Blocks - 0.0 (-0.2)
FG% - 52.5 (+1.3)
FT% - 88.1 (-4.0)
3pt% - 50.4 (+6.5)
3ptM - 2.6 (+0.7)
TO - 3.7 (+0.2)

Suns Record - 19-8 (17-10 same point last season)

So its easy to see that he has improved his numbers in the most important categories - points and assists, while shooting insane numbers from the field, foul line and 3pt range. The Suns are also on track for another great season.

Unless someone else really steps up their game I see no reason why Nash should not win the MVP again.

I'd say his main challengers at this point are Wade, LeBron, Arenas, Garnett, Nowitzki, Yao and Bryant. And its fair to say that a lot will depend on the success of their teams. If Miami and Cleveland are under-achieving its going to be a disadvantage for those 2 guys. Yao is out injured for a while which will severly hurt his chances, as Kobe has been too and if misses more time will struggle to win it.

That leaves Dirk, KG and Arenas. 2 of those guys are on .500 teams or just above. Theres probably a few other guys I'm forgetting but you'd have to say it looks pretty ominous.

roscoe36
12-29-2006, 04:20 PM
I would just like to digress and mention that the NHL, MLB (AL) and NBA MVPs are all Canadian. :)

:canada:

Has anyone won the MVP 3 years in a row? Off the top of my head, I cannot remember.

LBJ is having a slightly down season and Yao is injured. Garnett is playing for a bad team and I think that Wade actually gets hurt in this discussion playing alongside Shaq. Without the Big Diesel, Miami is not much of a winner.

And winning still counts.

I'd say Kobe and Dirk are his biggest competition.

MotownPride
12-29-2006, 04:22 PM
Boozer and D. Howard should get serious consideration.

webz
12-29-2006, 04:25 PM
Has anyone won the MVP 3 years in a row? Off the top of my head, I cannot remember.


Bill Russell - 61-63
Wilt Chamberlain - 66-68
Larry Bird - 84-86


Boozer and D. Howard should get serious consideration.

All depends on whether their teams can keep up their stellar play. I think those guys get included because of their team's surprising records.
I don't think Boozer can win it because the Jazz are like the Pistons - a strong unit without one guy being the star.
Howard maybe, but I just don't see it happening.

You're right, both should probably be included in the discussion, for recognition, but neither are realistic winners IMO.

roscoe36
12-29-2006, 04:32 PM
Orlando is 3-7 in their last 10 and Howard's numbers are starting to return to earth's gravity. I don't see Howard being in consideration unless he goes on a statistical tear. There are several straws that stir that drink. Nelson, Hill and Darko.

dba
12-29-2006, 04:41 PM
I've been watching as many Suns games as I can these past couple of weeks. Whether it's 148-145 or 99-98 like last night (or whatever last night's score was), they are just a blast to watch. Their last hoop last night was Nash and Amare on the pick and roll with Nash throwing a ridiculous pass, just flipping the ball towards the rafters and Amare thowing it down one handed. With the game in the balance and little time left, it's just not how most folks play. But it was a world of fun to watch.

Anyway, long windup for a short pitch, Nash - three in a row. No one else (o.k., maybe Kobe and Dirk) should even be in contention at this point.

Dlev59
12-29-2006, 04:58 PM
This may sound crazy at the moment but I have watched AI play in his first few games with the Nuggets and if he continues to play as he currently is, when Melo and JR come back look for AI to make a push for MVP.

roscoe36
12-29-2006, 05:01 PM
Oh yeah, shoot. I forgot to mention AI. Good job Dlev. He's totally a candidate if the Nugs keep winning without Carmela and then win even more when she comes back.

dba
12-29-2006, 05:08 PM
Yep Dlev, you're right.

Could be the feel good story of the year.

Dlev59
12-29-2006, 05:12 PM
Oh yeah, shoot. I forgot to mention AI. Good job Dlev. He's totally a candidate if the Nugs keep winning without Carmela and then win even more when she comes back.

"Carmela".............I am crying over here....:pound: :pound: :pound: :pound:

When she comes back..........STOP IT, JUST STOP IT......:pound:

webz
12-29-2006, 05:26 PM
"Carmela".............I am crying over here....:pound: :pound: :pound: :pound:

When she comes back..........STOP IT, JUST STOP IT......:pound:

I actually typo'd the exact same thing earlier, but corrected myself.

Thats spooky. :cheerleader:

MotownPride
12-29-2006, 06:36 PM
Orlando is 3-7 in their last 10 and Howard's numbers are starting to return to earth's gravity. I don't see Howard being in consideration unless he goes on a statistical tear. There are several straws that stir that drink. Nelson, Hill and Darko.

You're right. Hadn't noticed that. Good call.

TaShawn
12-30-2006, 02:17 AM
Dwight has looked a little frustrated lately. They are force feeding him in the post a lot and he is turning it over, traveling, getting offensive foul calls, etc. He's still reeling off at least 3 humongous dunks per game and pulling in big boards, but he seems to be repeatedly hacked more than anyone without getting calls. It may be some of what Shaq always complained about.

jammertime
12-31-2006, 12:08 AM
Breakdown:
Points - 20.0 (+1.1)
Assists - 11.4 (+0.9)
Rebounds - 3.2 (-1.0)
Steals - 0.9 (+0.1)
Blocks - 0.0 (-0.2)
FG% - 52.5 (+1.3)
FT% - 88.1 (-4.0)
3pt% - 50.4 (+6.5)
3ptM - 2.6 (+0.7)
TO - 3.7 (+0.2)

I don't know. I love Kid Canada, but if he wants a three-peat, he'll have to bring those block #s up.

linwood
12-31-2006, 12:38 AM
Put me down for Iverson. Carmela!:pound:

Dlev59
01-10-2007, 05:22 PM
T-Mac`s name is starting to surface in MVP talk.

Houston is 22-13, 12-3 at home and Yao is out!!

Oh yeah, I guess I should mention they are in 3rd place in their division, behind SA, and Dallas.

Oh, and those three Texas teams are three of the best defensive teams in the league........dayaaaaam!!!