Game #2 of the Home at Home. This is the next game for both teams as someone will be trying to save face.

tv :tv20. Its on tv20 so there will be 2 more rebroadcasts after the live broadcast. ( good excuse to pull an all-nighter )

I am traveling to Orlando on Tuesday and will be in da house to root the Pistons on come Friday at The TD Waterhouse Centre. Sorry no rooting for Darko here, but I will keep my eyes open for Tamia....


Hopefully not only will this be a win for the Pistons, but also the debut of their new back-up point......:nod:

I will give an ingame mini recap when I get back to my hotel that night.

I am traveling to Orlando on Tuesday and will be in da house to root the Pistons on come Friday at The TD Waterhouse Centre. Sorry no rooting for Darko here, but I will keep my eyes open for Tamia....


Hopefully not only will this be a win for the Pistons, but also the debut of their new back-up point......:nod:

I will give an ingame mini recap when I get back to my hotel that night.

Thats right, Thursday is the trade deadline. Our new player hopefully will be cleared to play that game.

My guess is that Darko puckers up in Detroit and has a solid home game.
Maybe we should start a poll.

My guess is that Darko puckers up in Detroit and has a solid home game.
Maybe we should start a poll.

I don't know yet what the Dark one will do back here in Detroit. I know he will be playing tonight in NY. He's coming off a career high 21 and 8 game and I'm kinda waiting to see what he does against NY before I put in my predictions for the EXPERT LICENSING EXAM CONTEST.

I think Darko will be pretty solid in Detroit, I'm guessing a bit above his season averages.

A lot of players play worse when they are trying to show up their former teams. Arroyo is the best example of this.

However, Darko's game has been relatively consistent because he is getting so many bunnies. Foul trouble is usually the derailing force.

I'm guessing Webber will guard him. ? If so, Darko will have a huge advantage in quickness and Webber will have to out-savy him.

That would leave Sheed to guard Dwight, which will be fun to watch too.

I'm guessing Webber will guard him. ? If so, Darko will have a huge advantage in quickness and Webber will have to out-savy him.

That would leave Sheed to guard Dwight, which will be fun to watch too.

I'd guess the opposite with CWebb starting on Howard and then heading out early for either Nazr or DD. If it isn't Nazr, then the TRADE is on.

I think he chokes against Detroit.

He looked like he was going to pee on himself when Larry Brown returned to town a couple of years ago.

Has anything changed? Maybe.

Show me!

Anyhow, what are the OBJECTIVE standards for a good performance?

I don't want to hear the Darko HOF go on and on about his 7 points, 3 rebounds, 1 assist, and 1 block that defined the game and rallied/or should have rallied his team to victory.

I'm admittedly curious to see how he does, but I don't really care very much either way.

Put your money where your mouths are DHOF! Predict some hard stats that would show us that Darko is a worthy #2 pick! Don't wait until after the game to twist his performance into one for the ages.

I'm admittedly curious to see how he does, but I don't really care very much either way.

Put your money where your mouths are DHOF! Predict some hard stats that would show us that Darko is a worthy #2 pick! Don't wait until after the game to twist his performance into one for the ages.


It actually kinda seems like you do care... with all your large fonts and exclamation marks.

I will predict that he has a great game with 8 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists, and 2 blocks. His real value will be all the things he does that nobody is able to see... gets to the bus on time, asks poignant questions in the pre-game briefing, rebounds well in the shoot-around, etc.

I think he chokes against Detroit.

He looked like he was going to pee on himself when Larry Brown returned to town a couple of years ago.

Has anything changed? Maybe.

Show me!

Anyhow, what are the OBJECTIVE standards for a good performance?

I don't want to hear the Darko HOF go on and on about his 7 points, 3 rebounds, 1 assist, and 1 block that defined the game and rallied/or should have rallied his team to victory.

I'm admittedly curious to see how he does, but I don't really care very much either way.

Put your money where your mouths are DHOF! Predict some hard stats that would show us that Darko is a worthy #2 pick! Don't wait until after the game to twist his performance into one for the ages.






DHOF-ites don't function that way, for to do so would be the death of them.

It actually kinda seems like you do care... with all your large fonts and exclamation marks.

I will predict that he has a great game with 8 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists, and 2 blocks. His real value will be all the things he does that nobody is able to see... gets to the bus on time, asks poignant questions in the pre-game briefing, rebounds well in the shoot-around, etc.

No, I don't care much about Darko. If you read the post again, perhaps you will glean enough insight to realize that what I do "care" about are the idiots who continue to sing the praises of someone who to this point has only proved himself to be a BUST without backing it up with any real data.

When he puts up real numbers (the few times that he has, that is), the numbers are shoved down our throats.

When he doesn't get any numbers (which is usually the case) we are told the numbers only tell a small part of the story. His real value is...blah blah blah.

No Tashawn. I have a low frustration tolerance for fools. Not basketball players who were drafted a round earlier than they should have been.

Also, I used the emphasis to make a point. I've asked for objective figures in the past, and have yet to see any. Love...and Darko love...are blind, I suppose.

Darth, since I have shown admirable restraint to keep from being one of those "idiots" or "fools" who delight in ramming the stats down your throat, I will once again take the same road.

But I will smile quite broadly after the next two games between my two favorite teams.

I will get to be in the house for the one in Detroit but will have to settle for watching on the tube for the second one.

I hope I enjoy the games more than you do :gun1: :yellowprison: .

Darth Tater/Darko Hater; only 3 letters different.

So what if Darko doesn't get good numbers? There is more to NBA basketball than doing well.

Give the guy a break. He comes from a war-torn country, yet his only flashbacks are of Larry Brown's screams.

The only screams I hear are the ones that Tater makes when I whup up on his hockey team!

The only screams I hear are the ones that Tater makes when I whup up on his hockey team!

Your team is like last years Pistons.

I may change my name to the Miami Lightning (Tampa Bay is in the same State, so why not). Do you think I might get a few favorable calls from the refs when we meet in the playoffs if I do that?:cheerlie-GOAL: :thumb[1]:

I think he chokes against Detroit.

He looked like he was going to pee on himself when Larry Brown returned to town a couple of years ago.

Has anything changed? Maybe.

Show me!

Anyhow, what are the OBJECTIVE standards for a good performance?

I don't want to hear the Darko HOF go on and on about his 7 points, 3 rebounds, 1 assist, and 1 block that defined the game and rallied/or should have rallied his team to victory.

I'm admittedly curious to see how he does, but I don't really care very much either way.

Put your money where your mouths are DHOF! Predict some hard stats that would show us that Darko is a worthy #2 pick! Don't wait until after the game to twist his performance into one for the ages.






Ok Darth, I will post my "hard stats" as to what will happen tommorow in the Darko Expert Licensing Exam. I plan on putting them in there tonight after the Magic play in NY. I want to see that game before venturing any kind of guess as to what will happen tomorrow. G. Hill is back tonight and with Darko in the starting lineup I want to see how that affects his FGA's and his role in the offense. Then I will have a better idea as to how he will be used tomorrow.

As I said, I will post the stats I expect to see out of Darko TONIGHT after the Magic and NY game.

You two guys are in the wrong thread.

Your hockey teams are in the wrong thread also.

Stick to Darko, you're better at that.

darko statline
18 points, 10 rebs, 4 blocks, 6 assists.


for those of you who aren't believers you get to watch the game and see the impact for yourself. darko isn't about stats but in the starting line up he has been providing numbers.

get ready for the preview of the twin towers that will dominate the east for a long time.

darth. what numbers will darko have to put up to convert you?

darko statline
18 points, 10 rebs, 4 blocks, 6 assists.


for those of you who aren't believers you get to watch the game and see the impact for yourself. darko isn't about stats but in the starting line up he has been providing numbers.

get ready for the preview of the twin towers that will dominate the east for a long time.

darth. what numbers will darko have to put up to convert you?

It depends. Convert me to what...exactly?

It depends. Convert me to what...exactly?

non bustdom.

non bustdom.

Well, do you mean "non bustdom" as a player in general. Or as a #2 overall NBA pick in a very deep draft?

One game won't sway me either way, but if Darko shows the mettle to face his former team and score numbers like...say...Chris Kaman who was drafted 4 picks later... then I will indeed agree that he has progressed. But really, I think he has shown some progress anyhow.

Feb 9th against Philly Kaman's numbers were:

15 points
9 boards
2 blocks
1 steal
2 assists


It's not like that game was really atypical for Kaman.

On Feb 14th @ Atlanta he posted:

20 points
13 boards
6 blocks
1 steal
3 assists

15 points
9 boards
2 blocks
1 steal
2 assists


That would be a better stat line than any Piston tonight besides Sheed. And most of them got 35+ minutes. And we have the best starting 5 in the business.

After watching Darko tonight against the Knicks, I think you're at least gonna see some banging from him. He seems to have a new found desire to actively call for the ball in the paint. 3 more dunks in the half-court set.

However, after watching Sheed tonight, it won't be easy in there.

That would be a better stat line than any Piston tonight besides Sheed. And most of them got 35+ minutes. And we have the best starting 5 in the business.

After watching Darko tonight against the Knicks, I think you're at least gonna see some banging from him. He seems to have a new found desire to actively call for the ball in the paint. 3 more dunks in the half-court set.

However, after watching Sheed tonight, it won't be easy in there.


Oh really? How many of those guys you named were drafted at #2?

Also...if you are basing a career on one night...:pound:

Oh really? How many of those guys you named were drafted at #2?

Also...if you are basing a career on one night...:pound:


CWebb- 1st pick
Dyess- 2nd pick
Billups- 3rd pick
Sheed- 4th pick
Hamilton- 7th pick

I'm not basing a career on one night. You listed the stats on one particular game that would impress you. I'm just saying your standard is higher than that achieved by 93% of the Pistons' roster tonight.

Orlando lost tonight so if the Pistons win both games Orlando can be pushed under to a 27-29 record. Good news for the pick.

The Pistons better come out for this game. I don't ask for much, just don't play games with this team is all I am asking. I know the Pistons can pulversize this team but I can see them taking it as just another .500 team and doing the usual walking the ball up the court and standing around during the 1st half, or getting a lead and letting them back in. Hopefully that will not happen.

Pistons are their own greatest weakness in this game. That and a guy called Dwight Howard. Going out a limb here, I am guessing Howard is the guy we will have to worry about.

CWebb- 1st pick
Dyess- 2nd pick
Billups- 3rd pick
Sheed- 4th pick
Hamilton- 7th pick

I'm not basing a career on one night. You listed the stats on one particular game that would impress you. I'm just saying your standard is higher than that achieved by 93% of the Pistons' roster tonight.

Ok. You win. I expect too much from the lad. I feel like Darth Larry Brown.

Darko will impress me and make me a believer in his greatness if he gets:

7 points
3 boards
1 block


If my expectations are too high, I'll adjust them some more. Just lemme know.


And if he doesn't achieve those lofty numbers, I'll believe in him if his mere presence forces the Pistons to do things they wouldn't normally do.

Just make sure that someone points it out to me because I always seem to miss that stuff.

Go Orlando.:cheerleader: Go Darko. :cheerleader:

Why the Pistons starting 5 is being compared to Orlando's starting 5 in this debate completely escapes me. Wouldn't a weaker starting 5 suggest Darko would be able to put up more impressive numbers than the Detroit PF/C collective? You are right though Darth. There is not a statline that could exist that would not be spinned for Darko's benefit. This DHOF club will defend Darko's lack of production until he retires.

I wonder if we'll see Darkos patented move, a running left to right diagonal leaping slash to the hole with a little short chuck over the left shoulder with glass?
Requesting the media center be on full record Rosc.

I doubt we beat them by 23 again.
Ps 92
Ms 85

darko statline
18 points, 10 rebs, 4 blocks, 6 assists.

I don't even think Darko believes this line is realistic.

...There is more to NBA basketball than doing well...

You're my man, 50 grand....but that, sir, is a classic.:pound:

New York Daily News - Basketball - Magic center Milicic joins Brown bashers (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/story/499504p-421163c.html)

New York Daily News - Basketball - Magic center Milicic joins Brown bashers (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/story/499504p-421163c.html)

8 Seasons from now when Darko is avg 9 ppg he'll repeat this story.

Low, don't you need to be sporting some PRO-FLIP signature/ avatar?

Low, don't you need to be sporting some PRO-FLIP signature/ avatar?

Low and Aurora said they would wear it for two weeks.

They never said when that two week period would begin.:nerner:

I'm thinking maybe around 2012.

Low, don't you need to be sporting some PRO-FLIP signature/ avatar?

Once I have been provided with said shackles...I will be wearing them as promised.

...I'm thinking maybe around 2012.

That will be just in time for Darko's Vegas All-Star party

If that's all Darko said it was hardly a bash. Maybe LB can't deal with young centers?
Hold me a spot in chat.

I think Darko is going to do pretty well tonight.

I don't think Detroit can play two blowout games in a row, especially against the same team, irregardless of Flip's uncanny ability to motivate this team. **cough**.

Darko cannot possibly have remanufactured enough urine in his system this quickly to wet himself as badly as the last game.

I see 14 points, 8 boards, 2 blocks, a couple of assists, and appearences by the entire recently AWOL DHOF:stooges: in chat by the end of the second quarter.

the dhof was attending the game.

i'll be in chat tonight. darko will put up 18pts, 10 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 blocks.

That's 38 Darko points. I heard a rumour that Tony Battie is coming back early!

Low and Aurora said they would wear it for two weeks.

They never said when that two week period would begin.:nerner:



So far I don't have a pm from anyone telling me what my avatar and sig should now read.

I wonder...would a Flip Sanders for U of Minnnesota coach signature be considered "Pro-Flip"? Until linwood or d4e gives me my marching orders on this, I guess I'll have to use that to stick to the letter of the law.

A bet is a bet.

heading to game now....hopefully a big win for the Pistons, but I heard that Sheed will be sitting out via over tech rule. Is that true?

Doesn't sound right Dre. Enjoy the game!!!

heading to game now....hopefully a big win for the Pistons, but I heard that Sheed will be sitting out via over tech rule. Is that true?

I think it was made up so that he would not have to face Darko again so soon :stirthepot: :stirthepot: :gun1: :yellowprison: :pound: :pound: !!!

I am a little more worried about Howard tonight than Darko. I know its just me but..

So far I don't have a pm from anyone telling me what my avatar and sig should now read.

I wonder...would a Flip Sanders for U of Minnnesota coach signature be considered "Pro-Flip"? Until linwood or d4e gives me my marching orders on this, I guess I'll have to use that to stick to the letter of the law.

A bet is a bet.

Your fathers influence on you is showing! :smiley-poker:

I am a little more worried about Howard tonight than Darko. I know its just me but..
Howard is going to get 30&15 against Webber again regardless of what happens, and it will have a minimal impact on whether or not the Magic win the game.

If Darko (or Hill or Nelson or Turkoglu or Dooling) can make an impact in addition to Howard's impressive but non-dominant 30&15, then we have to worry.

I have been down in the workshop with the powertools and chemistry set crafting a new Avatar for TheLow. The creature still has a way to go, but I should be able to unleash it after the next big lightning storm (or a couple of days, whichever comes first).

Your fathers influence on you is showing! :smiley-poker:

Indeed.

CHAT IS OPEN!!!

http://www.pistonsforum.com/misc.php?do=flashchat

I wonder if there was ever a Sam Bowie or Danny Ferry HOF Club...

I think I was the only member of the Mo Evans HOF.
Maybe TaS and Himat were minor members.
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Ice Pick your a sick demented person. Let me know if I can sell you a fresh unbruised brain.

It always cracks me listening to the other team's announcers blame the inability to score points in the 4th quarter on sluggish offensive play instead of Detroit going into lockdown mode. The Pistons struggled in this game but showed they are the class of the East when it matters -- down the stretch of the game. I just keep loving Carlos Delfino's game, if that boy could ever learn to score some points he might be giving Tay a run for his money as the starting SF. Carlos got 3 steals tonight and he was disrupting a few plays where he didn't get a stat sheet credit. Rip and Chauncey keep doing what they do best, control the tempo of the game and put points on the board. I'm a little disappointed that Maxiell is not getting any burn, whassup with that? Dale Davis is great in spurts but he's not going to be an energy burst off the bench. I'm probably the most happiest that Orlando is going down, down, down and our 1st round pick from them is starting to look very good.

Man, chat must have been golden.

What, with Darko putting up a Piston-killing 8 pts - 6 rebs

WoW, I didn't really expect this Magic team to implode. But missing 2 scorers will do that.

There was mostly about 6 of us. Magic were winning at halftime.

Man, chat must have been golden.

What, with Darko putting up a Piston-killing 8 pts - 6 rebs

To be fair, he did only play 66 minutes the past 2 games. That's like.... barely more than an hour.

You just wait until he starts getting 66 minutes a GAME. THEN you'll be sorry. You'll ALL be sorry.

Man, chat must have been golden.

What, with Darko putting up a Piston-killing 8 pts - 6 rebs

It's pretty sad. I thought he would do better in this game. He just doesn't seem to have the mental (or physical) toughness to play on this level.

He had two chances to show some pride, but he choked. Both times.

He'll probably have a really nice game against Milwaukee or something next week. Big deal.

Hey, kudos to Jackattack for sticking it out. I'm not sure there were any other DHOF's even in there, but maybe I missed someone.

The Darko fans did not show except Jackattaq who saw his "Darko Expert" title dreams disappear.

Folks, the kid may be the most amazing thing in 2 years, but right now, he's just another 4th year big man.

It is absolutely mind-boggling how he shows on the pick and roll with his arms outstretched sideways. I can't believe no one has coached him out of that. He picks up a lot of ticky tack fouls that way.

It is absolutely mind-boggling how he shows on the pick and roll with his arms outstretched sideways.

You don't know much about Darko, do you? That is his famous arm wag to intimidate the other team.

First, again, Darko did not so great, not so bad.

Delfino had an outstanding rebounding game in short minutes, and came up with every loose ball there was or knocked it to a teammate.

Hunter holds at 2 acceptable games as backup point for the month. He did have a drive and dish for an assist to Dyess though.

Billups decided again to score early and often, and did. That Orlando would dare start Nelson against Billups is quite a laugh.

Dyess had another decent game off the bench. His outside shot is dead on with plenty of range.

Dale Davis got long minutes and basically was a force inside. But no Maxiell. I like seeing the extra guy in the rotation, but never will I like Maxiell not even being given a few minutes to end the 2nd quarter.

No Mohammed, Flip Murray, Dupree, nor Blalock or Johnson. Of these, I see no reason to be playing Dupree, Murray, or Mohammed at the moment.

Rip just continues to amaze with his shooting consistency.

Tay had another very so so game. Maybe the ankle is still bothering him. He did can a key basket in crunch time posting up Turk.

Sheed hit a couple of triples, did some damage inside.

Webber scored some, rebounded some, got some assists. One particlarly nice pass to Rip for a layup. His defense was not all that bad.

We stuck with a lineup of the starters but with Dale instead of Webber into the five minute mark before bringing Webber back in.

I know people do love Webber being here, as do I. But guess what, we could be winning games with Dale Davis starting for us too. Dale is quite a basketball player.

The status of the Pistons is brighter than ever for the season. With Wade injured, we are a virtual lock to come out of the East, with only the slight possibility of Chicago working out some chemistry problems standing in our way. Still, never hurts to improve. On a game to game basis, Hunter is an ineffective backup point guard.

Delfino continually shows he can hang with opposing point guards just fine. He should be our backup point if Flip unwisely chooses not to play Blalock. And Amir should be playing. I don't want to see this team just come out of the East. They must beat the West's best after that. GO PISTONS!!!!!

Geeze...just watched the replay after getting home..

Nice to see Goukas pouting like a little beeyatch and spending half the 3rd Qtr talking about how Rasheed is the worst player in the leauge and how he knows his moods and thought processes and that no one should ever like him.

F You Goukas.

I cannot believe that there is a better backcourt tandem than CB and Rip. They are virtually unstoppable and if they are fouled to stop their shot, they just about never miss a FT.

I thought Darko would have a pretty good game at the start. Having 8 points that early showed up well, and then he never saw the ball again. The Pistons would not be ignoring a player who got a good start but Carlos and Jameer just do not share the ball.

I thought it was interesting that early in the game, the Orlando talking heads were commenting on the fact that CB is a good example of a point guard who was a shoot first PG can be trained to be a pass first PG. It makes me think that some of us calling for Jameer to be replaced by someone who can and will pass the ball is beginning to get through to somebody up there. The Magic will not go anywhere near a title until he is replaced by someone like Steve, CB or Jason. He does not even have to be as good as those three; just be a decent imitation of one of them.

They were also complaining about Carlos dribbling way too much at one point.

The Pistons were just awe-inspiring in their complete control of tempo, the fact that they stay cool, and demand that the other team play Piston basketball.

Agree with Lee about Davis. He still has some game in him.

That second unit is scary though with Dale, Lindsay and Delfino (all non-scorers) on the floor at the same time. Dice scores on and off. Too much for Rip to do. At least they played defense with Davis in the middle. If you can't score, hold the other guys.

Orlando is nowhere near a contender as I have repeatedly stated this year. Hey, they were even hyped early by Heisler in the LA Times. Of course, Heisler took two years to figure out that the Pistons were for real and he was among all the "experts" who downplayed Webber coming to the Pistons.

We played a pretty poor game and still won. Good to see us put the hammer down on defense in the 4th. I love that kind of basketball.

Darko was a disappointment. He does have some nice moves and I have seen him alter shots. He belongs at this level. But he has not shown anything near to being a number two pick. How could we have picked someone so high without knowing his game? An 8th pick or a tenth pick Ok but not a two. It is not about Darko but the hype machine that even our great Joe D bought into.

With Wade likely out, is there a real danger in the east? And, how do we stack up with the West's big three?

Ok I am now 2-0 in attended road games for the Pistons. Tonights win vs the Magic and I also attended the win vs the Dallas Mavs back in December. I guarantee another win at the next Piston game I will attend on 3/11 vs the Clippers.

I knew tonight would be special as I saw hundreds of Piston fans walking through the doors of the Amway Center wearing their Piston and Michigan Wolverine garb.

The game started with the Pistons interior defense playing soft as it appeared that magic scored 16 of there 24 first quarter points in the paint. It was a see saw battle after that with the Magic leading by 2 at the end of 1, by 1 at the end of 2 and by 4 at the end of 3. Up to that point it was anybody's game as the stat posted on the Jumbotron indicated that the Magic were 19-5 when leading after 3.

Although the Pistons played average those first three quarters, the Magic should have never allowed us to hang around. Iknew it would be just a matter of time before the Pistons would take control of the game. They opened the 4th quarter on a 13-2 run, not allowing the Magic to hit their first FG until only 1:21 left in the 4th quarter. The Magic tried to make a run down the stretch durng the last couple of minutes by stopping the clock to hit FT's, but Mr. BigShot and the Pistons defense had already done the damage with CB methodically controlling the temple of the game down the stretch and the defense forcing missed shots and turnovers. (The Pistons had 18 pts off 16 magic turnovers).

With the outcome of the game already settled, the Magic fans headed for the exits and only the Pistons fans remained to do the cheering in the end. . In fact after the game you could hear the Detroit fans chanting "Detroit Basketball" while standing in front of the restroom urinals, as the fellow Motown fans discussed the Lions, Tigers, and Pistons, (oh my!)

Good game tonight boys and girls, now I need to finish packing so I can catch my plane back to Cali in da moanin. :winner_first_h4h: :cool:

I was looking at some early box scores and the numbers seemed all messed up.
Fino with 4 rebounds
Darko with 5 points.
Wooooo, Dre your guarantying a victory at Clippers. So manly.

Pistons are up 3-0 against the Magic. We still have one more game left with them on April 11.

Just caught the re-broadcast. Glad I did not give into the temptation of sneaking at the score during the re-cast because it was a great finish. When the starters came back in with 7 mins to go, score tied and about to go into the penalty I knew they would pull it out.

Pistons totally out-executed the Magic down in the stretch. This is what this years Pistons are being known for. Not going to lock down teams anymore but they will play near flawless down the stretch most games and thats a formula that has won more championships than any other.

Darko had a pretty good game tonight. His role is not to dominate the scoring or anything so for him it was a good night. I was a bit surprised at all the cheers for the Pistons on a road game like that. Took the Magics best punch and came home with the win.

I doubt we beat them by 23 again.
Ps 92
Ms 85
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Wish I put my money where mouth was.

This is a good example of youth vs. knowledge... I love watching these near rookies taking flying lessons on pump fakes... there is defiantly a down side to development... even if it's necessary.... the Patience of a vet knowing when to show or when to go vs the rushed shot, great leaping misses or the overzealous fouls.
The Pistons are second to the Spurs in game situation intellegence.

Delfino has won me over (borderline hater) with his hustle and exceptional rebounding instincts... I still believe his defense is overrated (he bites on everything) but you can tell that he's a coaches son how he understands the game... Mr. intagible for the year so far.

Magic... let's go lotto!

I doubt we beat them by 23 again.
Ps 92
Ms 85
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Wish I put my money where mouth was.
Caught that prediction Thee... pretty close ...nice call

Bballjay's lack of an opinion is hilarious.

So predictable. :pound: :pound: :pound: :pound: :pound:

Again Darko=good role player....mediocre all around.

I've seen this a million times.

After last nights game: "Yeah, in the fourth we're usually a different team than we are in the first three quarters," Billups said.

The Pistons are going to need to be a "different" team for more than 1 quarter come playoffs.

8 Seasons from now when Darko is avg 9 ppg he'll repeat this story.
Brown, of course, was forced out of New York after one season of 59 losses and almost as many different starting lineups. In his absence, Eddy Curry has begun to blossom, and Milicic sees that as no coincidence.
"I just want to improve my game now and it's gonna take a lot," he said. "When you don't play for three years, you kind of lose the feeling."

Brown, of course, was forced out of New York after one season of 59 losses and almost as many different starting lineups. In his absence, Eddy Curry has begun to blossom, and Milicic sees that as no coincidence.
"I just want to improve my game now and it's gonna take a lot," he said. "When you don't play for three years, you kind of lose the feeling."


Never anything he's done right? Darko has known LB all of 2 of his 21 years on earth and in that short time, LB was able to strip all basketball talent, knowledge, and potential our of Darko's midi-chlorians. It's nice to see that Flip didn't play Darko either AFTER LB's departure, but it's still all LB's fault. Did LB taint Dolphin?

If LB's coaching was "bad" enough to keep Darko on the bench and get Detroit a title. I'll take that EVERY time.

Hell, if my starting center is only going to drop 8 pts...I at least want him to be DPOY.

this was an excellent win because orlando played swarming D the whole game and really hustled and tried to pull out the victory. even with all of that effort, they still couldn't beat the pistons at home while shooting a much higher percentage.

Darko was -15 according to Popcornmachine.net

Darko was -15 according to Popcornmachine.net

Popcornmachine.net refuses to factor Darko points into their equations. They don't give an accurate picture of Darko's worth to a team.

The latest Darko point scales are awarding bonus points for missed shots that look really good.

Darko is only a kid from a war torn nation who had his progress retarded by DPOY's and mean coaches. We need to take this into account.

Darko is only a kid from a war torn nation who had his progress retarded by DPOY's and mean coaches. We need to take this into account.
You forgot about the drunken fans who talk too much and can't play basketball.

You forgot about the drunken fans who talk too much and can't play basketball.

Read the fine print. That equates to 2.5 Darko points. The DHOF takes EVERYTHING into account.

Their motto is

"Darko may miss the rim, but we never miss an excuse"







Darko Points

rule 459 sec. 3 : Loud drunken fans = 2.5 Darko points.

Darko has been avg 11 points and 7 boards as a starter. Last night he had 8 points and 6 boards.