Well...first time playing Fantasy (although I'm writing a whole fantasy system for another site, but that's another story). My buddy said I had until Friday to pre-select the order of players that I wanted, but he screwed up and about half of us in a 10-team league had Yahoo just draft for us...no pre-ranking lol. However I think I ended up with a pretty decent team, but I was just curious what your thoughts were on it. The format is 5 starters + 1 utility, and 5 bench players.

Starting 5:

PG - Steve Nash - PHO
SG - Larry Hughes - CLE
SF - Rashard Lewis - SEA
PF (/SF) - Andrei Kirilenko - UTA
C (/PF) - Emeka Okafor - CHA

Utility:

PG/SG - Kirk Hinrich - CHI

Bench:

PG - Jason Terry - DAL
SG - Doug Christie - DAL
SF - Shane Battier - MEM
PF - Drew Gooden - CLE
PF/C - Kurt Thomas - PHO

Well...first time playing Fantasy (although I'm writing a whole fantasy system for another site, but that's another story). My buddy said I had until Friday to pre-select the order of players that I wanted, but he screwed up and about half of us in a 10-team league had Yahoo just draft for us...no pre-ranking lol. However I think I ended up with a pretty decent team, but I was just curious what your thoughts were on it. The format is 5 starters + 1 utility, and 5 bench players.

Starting 5:

PG - Steve Nash - PHO
SG - Larry Hughes - CLE
SF - Rashard Lewis - SEA
PF (/SF) - Andrei Kirilenko - UTA
C (/PF) - Emeka Okafor - CHA

Utility:

PG/SG - Kirk Hinrich - CHI

Bench:

PG - Jason Terry - DAL
SG - Doug Christie - DAL
SF - Shane Battier - MEM
PF - Drew Gooden - CLE
PF/C - Kurt Thomas - PHO

That's a nice looking roster!

-chris paul
-kobe bryant
-peja stojacovic
-manu ginobili
-jermaine oneal
-kyle korver
-andrew bogut
-stromile swift
-josh howard
-donyell marshall
-raymond felton
-jim jackson
-joe smith
-michael finley
-corliss williamson

I dropped corliss for jeff foster, and after i clear waivers i will have dropped michael finley for jamaal tinsley. also i traded peja and donyell marshall for k-mart and Troy murphy. It looks like a stupid trade, but i needed rebounders, and i have a good free-throw shooting team, and have other 3 point threats besides peja in kobe, manu, korver, and jim jackson.

-chris paul
-kobe bryant
-peja stojacovic
-manu ginobili
-jermaine oneal
-kyle korver
-andrew bogut
-stromile swift
-josh howard
-donyell marshall
-raymond felton
-jim jackson
-joe smith
-michael finley
-corliss williamson

I dropped corliss for jeff foster, and after i clear waivers i will have dropped michael finley for jamaal tinsley. also i traded peja and donyell marshall for k-mart and Troy murphy. It looks like a stupid trade, but i needed rebounders, and i have a good free-throw shooting team, and have other 3 point threats besides peja in kobe, manu, korver, and jim jackson.

Jeff Foster will be out of action for awhile...be prepared to have him benched for a month if you plan to keep him.

yeah it said that on his player notes today. i think he'd be a good player on my team. I'm probably going to keep him unless I can make a good move with him.

Hahahaha

A guy in one of my other leagues just tried trading me Amare Stoudamire for Brad Miller. Amare is out at least 4 months and Yahoo no longer has IR.

We had a live draft and the guy grabbed Amare in one of the early rounds. I made a comment at the time how that was a big risk considering he was out for so long with no IR, now he's trying to trade me the guy.

If he were healthy I'd make the trade in a second. Of course, if he were healthy, there's no way he makes the trade proposal.

I actually tried putting Amare little higher than yahoo had him in my pre-draft rankings so i might have him on the bench, and when he got healthy i'd have a good player on my team. I didn't get him, but thats fine. I like my team.

I actually tried putting Amare little higher than yahoo had him in my pre-draft rankings so i might have him on the bench, and when he got healthy i'd have a good player on my team. I didn't get him, but thats fine. I like my team.

I agree that he was worth the risk if Yahoo still had the IR position. But to take up a bench spot for 4 months is a risky move.

I especially wouldn't trade Miller, one of the top fantasy C's in the league for a guy who can't help me for at least 4 months.

can someone explain a rotisserie league for me? this is what i'm in - 10 man rotisserie. it says

Max Games Played: 82
Weekly Deadline: Daily - Tomorrow
Max Moves: No maximum
Max Trades: No maximum
Waiver Time: No waivers
Roster Positions: PG, SG, SF, PF, C, Util, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN
Stat Categories: FG%, FT%, 3PTM, PTS, REB, AST, ST, BLK, TO, PF, TECH

does this mean i can change my team daily, and that only the starters + utility on each given day are counted? i'm new to this, could use a little better explanation than yahoo's crappy one

can someone explain a rotisserie league for me? this is what i'm in - 10 man rotisserie. it says

Max Games Played: 82
Weekly Deadline: Daily - Tomorrow
Max Moves: No maximum
Max Trades: No maximum
Waiver Time: No waivers
Roster Positions: PG, SG, SF, PF, C, Util, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN
Stat Categories: FG%, FT%, 3PTM, PTS, REB, AST, ST, BLK, TO, PF, TECH

does this mean i can change my team daily, and that only the starters + utility on each given day are counted? i'm new to this, could use a little better explanation than yahoo's crappy one

I've been asking the same thing warthog. Nobody seems to know. I think our novice league is like that too. :ohwell::confused:

Y'all can change your rosters daily.

Rotissierre is just cumulative stats league wide instead of weekly head-to-head matchups.

but bench players for that day do not count, correct? (i'm assuming that's the reason for bench players).

if i understand correctly, for daily changes and rotisserie it is probably better to have a deeper roster rather than 5 fantasy studs and 6 duds...right?

Y'all can change your rosters daily.

Rotissierre is just cumulative stats league wide instead of weekly head-to-head matchups.
Roscoe,

Please bear with me on this:

OK, so lets pretend it is Monday, December 15 and only two teams play. They are the Brownies and the Flippers. But let's say I have one Flipper and zero Brownies. Do I play my Flipper that day and bench the rest of my squad or do I leave my squad blank that day and wait until a better guy on the Popeye team gets a chance to play the next day? I'm asking because I thought I saw somewhere that each position only gets 82 plays cumulatively. If I don't bench a guy who doesn't play that day does it count as one "play" for that position?

This is very confusing to me. Do my questions even make sense? Can somebody who has done this before explain it step by step to us rookies? I've played fantasy football (which is easy to understand) and I read the league rules but a lot is foggy. I really have no idea how this works. :sorry: Arrggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

"If I don't bench a guy who doesn't play that day does it count as one "play" for that position? "

Yeah I'm confused as well!!

can someone explain a rotisserie league for me? this is what i'm in - 10 man rotisserie. it says

Max Games Played: 82
Weekly Deadline: Daily - Tomorrow
Max Moves: No maximum
Max Trades: No maximum
Waiver Time: No waivers
Roster Positions: PG, SG, SF, PF, C, Util, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN
Stat Categories: FG%, FT%, 3PTM, PTS, REB, AST, ST, BLK, TO, PF, TECH

does this mean i can change my team daily, and that only the starters + utility on each given day are counted? i'm new to this, could use a little better explanation than yahoo's crappy one

That is exactly what that means. You can change your roster positions daily and on each given day those stats are counted. It's important to note that rotisserie play is not like head to head though. Rotisserie is a game of bulk numbers. Categories have a point value associated for each stat you accumulate. The goal is to finish with the largest amount of points for the season. In this format you do not face another manager each week and your stats do not reset weekly. In the end, the final place order will be based on who has the highest total points.

Roscoe,

Please bear with me on this:

OK, so lets pretend it is Monday, December 15 and only two teams play. They are the Brownies and the Flippers. But let's say I have one Flipper and zero Brownies. Do I play my Flipper that day and bench the rest of my squad or do I leave my squad blank that day and wait until a better guy on the Popeye team gets a chance to play the next day? I'm asking because I thought I saw somewhere that each position only gets 82 plays cumulatively. If I don't bench a guy who doesn't play that day does it count as one "play" for that position?

This is very confusing to me. Do my questions even make sense? Can somebody who has done this before explain it step by step to us rookies? I've played fantasy football (which is easy to understand) and I read the league rules but a lot is foggy. I really have no idea how this works. :sorry: Arrggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

okay, so first of all Tater you are in a Head to Head league so none of the cumulative rules apply.

There is no max to games you can have for a roster position in Head to Head play. This is because the stats reset every week for a player before each head to head matchup. Therefore your performance against another manager for the week is strictly based on:

cumulative stats for each of your players during that week
players that are in the "active" roster spots which would mean everything excluding BENCHAs a manager, your strategy will be to determine which player should be assigned to an "active" roster spot every day based on:

schedule - can't get points if your player's team does not have a game that day
matchups - does your player have a date with Ron Artest that evening
health - is there a likely hood he won't suit up because he might be battlin' the flu
projected minutes - will the player warm the bench that gameIn most situations this is straight forward. If you have 10 players on your team that play on a day, then you place those players in the lineup if there is an available roster spot for their position.

If you have more than 10 players playing then you have some decisions to make. You will have to determine which players do not play on that day. Scheduling is very important to your fantasy b-ball livelihood. This is why it is important to monitor your opponent and take into account how many games your players will play that week when developing a strategy. It is also helpful to make sure you have players that play multiple positions so that you have more roster flexiblilty. Nothing worse than having alot of great players with no "active" roster spot to assign them to.

I hope this answers all your questions.

Motown,

Thank you very much!! Yes. That clarified everything for me, I believe.:hail:

but bench players for that day do not count, correct? (i'm assuming that's the reason for bench players).

if i understand correctly, for daily changes and rotisserie it is probably better to have a deeper roster rather than 5 fantasy studs and 6 duds...right?

My experience has been that in a rotisserie league it can be more of a marathon than a foot race. With the max player position limitation your focus should be on quality starts versus quanity. I would actually make the arguement that the importance of having fantasy studs in rotisserie is more important because they will give you the biggest bang for your buck. The bench in this case will only serve to assist you when one of your stars goes down to injury or does not play for some other unfortunate reason. You have to figure that the average NBA player is never going to really play all 82 games, so you will need some resemblence of a bench to fill in for the missed starts.

Man I'm still confused heh. Okay, say I change my lineup daily to whichever team is playing. For the sake of argument, Phoenix plays every other day and Chicago also players every other day, in-between, so that any given day Phoenix or Chicago play.

Now, if I swap my roster daily between Nash and Hinrich, would I be done after each has played 41 games? (half the season), since I'd have 82 games at PG?

And if that is how the league is structured, then I would just leave my starters in constantly unless I know they're not playing a particular game?

Now, if I swap my roster daily between Nash and Hinrich, would I be done after each has played 41 games? (half the season), since I'd have 82 games at PG?

Yep. That's why I don't generally enjoy playing using Rotisserie roles. Keep in mind that there is a UTIL spot (Can be used for any player on your team) in your league format that you can take advantage of.

And if that is how the league is structured, then I would just leave my starters in constantly unless I know they're not playing a particular game?

Well, you might also take them out if you think that your bench player might out perform your starter that night. Again, if your starter is matched up against Ron Artest, while your bench player will be guarded by Antoine Walker....you might want to do a roster change.

Ok, so just to double check...In our forum novice league, I only have 3 players on my entire roster who play this tuesday (tomorrow).

2 are exclusively PG's so I am placing one at PG and the other at utility. The 3rd player is a PF. My other guys don't have games that day.

The rest of my team (12 other players) are being benched for tuesday. However, what if I accidentally left 7 of those remaining 12 active because I forgot to change my lineup from the previous day. I know they wouldn't accumulate points since they don't play that day, but it also wouldn't count against me, right? If their team does not play that day it doesn't matter if I bench the player or leave them in a starters spot as long as I couldn't fill the spot with another player anyhow, correct???

I have to admit I had no idea it worked this way until you explained it. That's why I kept asking you guys if I should pick up a guy to cover a spot for a day. If the answer to the above question is "yes", then I get now for sure. lol. If not, I'm in trouble. I have a feeling some others beside warthog & I were/are confused too though.

Ok, so just to double check...In our forum novice league, I only have 3 players on my entire roster who play this tuesday (tomorrow).

2 are exclusively PG's so I am placing one at PG and the other at utility. The 3rd player is a PF. My other guys don't have games that day.

The rest of my team (12 other players) are being benched for tuesday. However, what if I accidentally left 7 of those remaining 12 active because I forgot to change my lineup from the previous day. I know they wouldn't accumulate points since they don't play that day, but it also wouldn't count against me, right? If their team does not play that day it doesn't matter if I bench the player or leave them in a starters spot as long as I couldn't fill the spot with another player anyhow, correct???

I have to admit I had no idea it worked this way until you explained it. That's why I kept asking you guys if I should pick up a guy to cover a spot for a day. If the answer to the above question is "yes", then I get now for sure. lol. If not, I'm in trouble. I have a feeling some others beside warthog & I were/are confused too though.

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LMAO...Hey! Are you calling me a Ding a ling?????????????

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:laugh:

Oh, never. :der:

:laugh:

Whatever!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mmph: lmao

Yep. That's why I don't generally enjoy playing using Rotisserie roles. Keep in mind that there is a UTIL spot (Can be used for any player on your team) in your league format that you can take advantage of.

meh i shoulda done 2 leagues, one head-to-head, to get the experience. wonder if i can still do some late yahoo public league before the season starts, although i dunno if i have time to follow 2 leagues heh.


Well, you might also take them out if you think that your bench player might out perform your starter that night. Again, if your starter is matched up against Ron Artest, while your bench player will be guarded by Antoine Walker....you might want to do a roster change.

true. so if someone never changes his PG, he might have 2 games in a week...and if i change up due to the situation you described, i might have 5 games that week and have a big jump in stats, but that's misleading because his PG still has 3 more games to catch up.

and rotisserie stats aren't based on position, it's cumulative for all positions, and then ranks are based on statistical category - correct? so there's a strategy there too i see, either you could have say, 2 average assists guys, or one really good assists and one good rebounding, etc.

does it sound like i'm understanding this properly?

maximizing your roster is a dual edged sword. The increase in assists will see an increase in TO's generally. Also, if you add a 3rd tier PF you might get a handful of rebs but your FT and FG's might slip.

This is my first head to head style and my first week looks like I'm going to get worked over. :violin:

meh i shoulda done 2 leagues, one head-to-head, to get the experience. wonder if i can still do some late yahoo public league before the season starts, although i dunno if i have time to follow 2 leagues heh.



true. so if someone never changes his PG, he might have 2 games in a week...and if i change up due to the situation you described, i might have 5 games that week and have a big jump in stats, but that's misleading because his PG still has 3 more games to catch up.

and rotisserie stats aren't based on position, it's cumulative for all positions, and then ranks are based on statistical category - correct? so there's a strategy there too i see, either you could have say, 2 average assists guys, or one really good assists and one good rebounding, etc.

does it sound like i'm understanding this properly?

yep, you got it!

Why is it that when I set my lineup through this Friday (I always submit changes on each day) that when I close out of Yahoo & return my lineup is the same for the entire week. This happened to me twice? :frusty::mad:

some changes i made - dropped battier and christie for dunleavy and finley. i just offered this trade to another team...her team is terrible. her starting PF is Troy Murphy and the only eligible C she has is Okur.

i offered AK47 and Drew Gooden for Tmac ... what do you think? i just don't trust AK47...i probably could have gotten the trade w/o Gooden, but I still have Okafor and Thomas at PF. if the trade goes through i have a tricky situation though with Hughes, Lewis, and Tmac all vying for time at SF/SG. hrmm.

Why is it that when I set my lineup through this Friday (I always submit changes on each day) that when I close out of Yahoo & return my lineup is the same for the entire week. This happened to me twice? :frusty::mad:

sounds like you are dealing with some Yahoo software bug. Hopefully, they'll fix it. I'll send a quick note to customer support.

i thought i had this all sussed but all this talk has muddier the waters a bit.
if motown or someone could clarify these? (according to our novice league rules)

1. each position can only accumulate stats for 82 games, even if you change players around to accumulate max games. ie. you could max out the 82 games for a certain position by march if you tried.
CORRECT Y/N?

2. leaving a player in a position when they have no game for that day does NOT waste one of those 82 games.
CORRECT Y/N?


thank you, yakshamush...

hmm i just re-read the topic, i think i'm sorted now. couldn't edit my last post.

i think it would have been better to only be able to change your lineups weekly.

1. each position can only accumulate stats for 82 games, even if you change players around to accumulate max games. ie. you could max out the 82 games for a certain position by march if you tried.
CORRECT Y/N?

This is a rotisserie rule it does not apply to us.

2. leaving a player in a position when they have no game for that day does NOT waste one of those 82 games.
CORRECT Y/N?

This is a rotisserie rule it does not apply to us.

Daily changes are the way to go. If you made a trade for a player and were not able to insert him into your lineup until a week later, you wouldn't be a happy camper. Daily changes allow for more flexibility and more strategy. Weekly changes handicap the league and stifle the relationship between the NBA game and fantasy basketball.

I think once everyone gets into the season they will see that the PF.Com sponsered rules are very simple and enjoyable for all.

Good luck to all!