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webz
04-17-2007, 03:32 PM
Suspended!

That's one less egotistical jerk for us to worry about come Wade-time. Uh, I mean playoff time.

ESPN.com - NBA - NBA suspends referee Crawford indefinitely (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2840587)

I'm sure everyone here is very happy that for once an NBA official is held accountable for his actions. This guy should be demoted to the D-League.

1 Crawford down, 1 to go.

You're next Danny boy! :gun1::gun1::gun1::gun1:

Nemo
04-17-2007, 04:03 PM
It'll be interesting to see what the league does with Tim Duncan. Not sure what his role was in this altercation.............:) . Must've done something to upset the mild mannered Crawford...........:pound:

dba
04-17-2007, 04:28 PM
I'm a little surprised. The league usually isn't this visible about stuff like this.

Joey did look like his head was about to explode after he called the second tech.

Hey - I've sat next to Danny on several flights. He seems like a nice enough guy.

roscoe36
04-17-2007, 04:38 PM
Before we cheer too loudly, let's hope we don't meet the Spurs in the Finals. In that circumstance, it would have been good to have the Timmy-hater calling the series.

TaShawn
04-17-2007, 05:29 PM
Hey - I've sat next to Danny on several flights. He seems like a nice enough guy.

Next time, call him a piece of %%%% and see how he reacts. Hopefully, you don't get ejected from the plane.

It looks like he has had some battles with anger in the past (anger management programs, etc).

webz
04-17-2007, 05:39 PM
maybe it was the comments to the media that helped tip the scales. i can't really remember the last time i saw a referees comments in the news after a game.

dba, the reason he was nice on the plane may be because he was sedated for the flight.

mikhail1973
04-17-2007, 05:43 PM
Dunkan got fined $25K for calling Crawford a "piece of ...". I believe it happened after he was already tossed.
I wonder how this affects all the other refs in the league and calling techs. Will Sheed get a bit more leeway?

The Low
04-17-2007, 06:17 PM
Finally. Amen.

jammertime
04-17-2007, 06:45 PM
dba, the reason he was nice on the plane may be because he was sedated for the flight.

Yeah, just like B.A. Baracus!! :pound:

He suffers an intense fear of flying (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_of_flying), especially when the plane in question is flown by Murdock. This difficulty is often overcome by other members of the team drugging him, knocking him unconscious, or, as in one episode, hypnotizing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnosis) him, so he can be transported without objection.

B.A. Baracus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B.A._Baracus)

jammertime
04-17-2007, 09:32 PM
Tim Duncan's ejection, "The ball does not lie", and a really bad offensive call on Umberto (watch Howard fly into Oberto @ 2:45) all in one clip!
YouTube - Tim Duncan Ejected (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-ENE5HkRBM)

Tim Duncan's post ejection interview:
YouTube - Tim Duncan's After Ejection Lockeroom Interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B4smT43bMU&NR=1)

LA Dre
04-17-2007, 10:05 PM
Nothing against age here, but I think he and a couple of other officials are past their prime anyway. How about a ceiling on 55 for NBA officials. I know the guys out there are in better shape than me, but you got old guys out there jawing with these young cats and somebody's mother is eventually going to pop up in the conversation. Hopefully this serves a message to the other officials about how far they can go as it relates to conversations and tossing out the supa stars

jammertime
04-17-2007, 10:08 PM
I don't know about an age restriction, but they should have to pass some sort of test.

How about they have to beat Charles Barkley in a race!

explosivity
04-17-2007, 10:30 PM
Dunkan got fined $25K for calling Crawford a "piece of ...". I believe it happened after he was already tossed.
I wonder how this affects all the other refs in the league and calling techs. Will Sheed get a bit more leeway?

Ha Ha, that's the funniest thing i've heard well at least for today. Whenever you have humans involved in anything emotions are going to come into play It is just suprising to me that this hasn't happened more to other referees who are even more hot tempered than crawford such as like a Steve Javie. Piece of %%%% that's funny, lmao.

:)

detteam
04-18-2007, 01:32 AM
No way he'd have got bounced if it was Sheed instead of Timmy. Duncan's fine will be repealed too...just watch.

TheeTFD
04-18-2007, 06:23 AM
Score one for Stern?

Nemo
04-18-2007, 11:33 AM
Saw Stern on a sports show yesterday explaining his reasons for suspending Crawford. I don't think Crawford is coming back based on what Stern was saying. I got the feeling after listening to Stern that Crawford is still livid about being suspended...........

jzchen
04-18-2007, 11:55 AM
Wonder anyone from the media would actually ask Sheed to comment on this suspension? :stirthepot:

TaShawn
04-18-2007, 12:06 PM
I can't wait for the tell-all book with the real scoop on the fixing and the Stern dictated bias against the Pistons.

Even if it's not true... or legal, he can probably use the threat of it to get his job back.

16 Mile
04-18-2007, 12:37 PM
I can't wait for the tell-all book with the real scoop on the fixing and the Stern dictated bias against the Pistons.

Even if it's not true... or legal, he can probably use the threat of it to get his job back.
I guarantee Joey has a non-disclosure agreement, and Stern would sue the heck out of any tell all book.

TaShawn
04-18-2007, 01:21 PM
He'd have to move to Spain and release the book there. Then he could work for FIBA.

mikhail1973
04-18-2007, 06:55 PM
Last news is that Crawfart says that Dunkan deserved that tech and that if the same situation occurred he would toss him again. To which Stern said that looks like Crawfart doesn't want to work in the NBA anymore.

Nemo
04-18-2007, 07:20 PM
This is just the commissioners trying to be the baddest. First in football, there are suspensions and the new behavior policies. Now Stern is tossing out an official who didn't kss his ring when they met to discuss the situation. This is all about two guys trying to see who has the biggest.................................ego....... .......:stirthepot:

pass99
04-19-2007, 01:04 AM
I have some very mixed feelings about this whole situation. Crawford is the best official in the league and he would be one of the few who could and would make a needed call in an opposing team's home court during playoff time. This will definitely hurt the quality of their decision making. It will be interesting to see how the rest of the referees react during the playoffs. You can count on there being one of at least two extremes:

· The referees get real tight and clamp down on the aggressiveness. This will cause a very uneven style of play-making and any sort of team rhythm will be inconsistent. Play will slow down and there will be more of an inside game and quick shots selection from the arc. It will be interesting to see the final scores and what teams (if any) reach 100 points.

· Or they call episodic patterns of tightness and allowed or overlook aggressiveness, which interestingly enough, will have the same effect as the above scenario. This may turn out to be a very inconsistent playoff series and will favor those teams which play a patterned perimeter game. SA and Detroit might have a more difficult time in this series if it goes in this direction and or takes on the opposite...where quickness and individualized talent overcomes closer decision making.

Any way you look at it, the referees will be under intense scrutinity. Now, more than ever, each team and its’ members (along with their fans) have become conditioned to expect all for the total right or the total wrong. Just what one would expect from marketed possessive individualism now emphasized by the league.

Not a good time to be a referee.

You can see that this has been building up for some time and I blame Stern for this whole psychological swinging of the piñata, in which both camps get the excessive and inconsistent treatment. Policies should have been explained and workshops conducted by the league and union reps to avoid the inconsonant and subjective interpretations used throughout the season. It will, in all likelihood, taint the playoffs.

There should be one very big revisualization coming out of Stern's camp in creating this penumbra and that is that you cannot dictate civility. He also forgot some important Machiavellian perceptions as explained by Bacon, "He set forth openly and sincerely what men are wont to do, and not what they ought to do." Better to pre-load the policies and have coaches, players and media on board. Everyone is held accountable from the beginning and changes can have some chance of adaptability or at least acquire a minute fringe of professional obligations.

This mess holds especially true when you have such lack of leadership from the union, owners, coaches and players. You have millionaires roaming the floor that have little knowledge of life perceptions and or their varied relationships to the larger NBA organization, team ownership obligations and market manipulations which creates its own participative perspective.

Games results and decisions are given final oversight by referees (they earn anywhere from $90,000 to $225,000 for their hard work) who must make judgments determined in time frames bordered in hundreds of a second. Without a thought process or framework that might point out, that a whole exists in some sense before the parts, we can expect more of the same results.

Not a good time to be a civil human being.

TheeTFD
04-19-2007, 01:15 AM
The talk is , if it was Sheed there would be no problem but since it was sweetheart Duncan lines must be drawn.

roscoe36
04-19-2007, 09:20 PM
Cuban wants nothing to do with this topic or any issues not relating to the Mavs.

Tim Duncan, Joe Crawford and the NBA - Blog Maverick (http://www.blogmaverick.com/2007/04/16/tim-duncan-joe-crawford-and-the-nba/)

Who can blame him? He's paid out a ton in fines for speaking his mind in the past.

himat
04-19-2007, 09:39 PM
Nothing would have happened if it was a guy like Sheed and we all know that.

I think Rasheed choked a ref after he dropped the N-bomb on him. Of course Sheed had to be suspended he choked a ref, but I don't think their was any consequences for that ref. I don't even know if I have the whole story right.

Nemo
04-19-2007, 11:32 PM
It's possible that Duncan will be more whiney, especially if his bunch makes it to the finals. Wouldn't want to be Sheed if this happens. My prediction says Spurs over the Pistons in 6............Cause Sheed has a meltdown, along with some of our other players, due to Duncan's ability to whine his way through the playoffs..............

easybuckets
04-21-2007, 01:46 PM
Joey Crawford was a power freak and was so happy with himself. Most of his technical fouls were unwarrented and he loved having such power. He has a horrible temper and deserves to be fired. He may be good at reffing the game but his power trips and illtemper negated any skills he had. I hope he never comes back! He should have been gone long before this. I hope this leads to a rule change that will allow the players to express some nondisruptive emotions without being tossed. bball players are not robots!

The Low
04-21-2007, 02:18 PM
Nothing would have happened if it was a guy like Sheed and we all know that.

I think Rasheed choked a ref after he dropped the N-bomb on him. Of course Sheed had to be suspended he choked a ref, but I don't think their was any consequences for that ref. I don't even know if I have the whole story right.

I don't know where these urban legends start, but Sheed never choked a ref ever at any point. Sheed was suspended for threatening a ref in the loading dock after a game. The gist of it was something along the lines of Sheed being out in the dock complaining about one of the guys, the ref got bent and got into a verbal spat with Sheed and Sheed at some point with something along the lines of a dismissive, "I'll beat yo %%%%%." (and I'm sure many of you know people who talk like that). At that point, the ref in question got really pissed and when it was all said and done, the powers that be regarded Sheeds statement as a threat and suspended him, all the while making it sound as if Sheed actually threatened to kill the guy or something.

I was in Portland at the time and the local press had a field day with it. They went out of their way to paint Sheed as some sort of attempted murderer. Although, I was no Portland fan then, it's pretty easy to see when a guy is getting the shaft and I'm no fan of that kind of treatment.