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FreshPrince22
04-23-2007, 12:17 AM
Wow, Great start to the series so far!

Dumars4Ever
04-23-2007, 12:21 AM
Pretty amazing stuff here--I can't believe the Mavs have missed so many makeable shots. The Warriors have hung around long enough to sprint out to a big lead late in the game once they started hitting a bunch of threes, even though their overall percentage for the game is pretty crappy. Avery's going to have to make some adjustments to take advantage of the Warriors' porous D and dicey shot selection.

ahb
04-23-2007, 12:22 AM
Baron Davis might be the best point guard in the NBA.

This is hilarious.

mercury
04-23-2007, 12:25 AM
Baron Davis might be the best point guard in the NBA.

This is hilarious.
Yes he is ... when he's on the floor
He owns Chauncey.

I don't think this should be a surprise though... it's not like they haven't whupped on Dallas all year.

coynejeremy
04-23-2007, 12:28 AM
Baron Davis might be the best point guard in the NBA.

This is hilarious.


This is the best thing that has happened so far this playoffs. I actually yelled to my wife that the Warriors won, and I didn't even bat an eyelash when the Pistons won. I picked the Mavs to win the series, but I still would love to see them out in the first round.

LA Dre
04-23-2007, 12:44 AM
I picked Dallas to win this one even though my heart said go with Warriors. Remember the warriors swept the Mavs this season 3-0 although the Mavs sat out key players/stars in the final game of the season.

Number 1 seeds are always better record and talent wise than the # 8's but I think the warriors are a tough matchup for the Mavs and if this one doesn't go seven it will be because the Warriors swept them:stirthepot:

mikhail1973
04-23-2007, 01:55 AM
Warriors now won 6 straight from Dallas. Now, who's got the best deal out of Indiana-Golden State trade? Sure looks like Warriors came out a clear winner. I think if Jackson and Harrington were still back with the Pacers, they'd be playing Pistons now instead of Orlando.

LA Dre
04-23-2007, 02:11 AM
Warriors now won 6 straight from Dallas. Now, who's got the best deal out of Indiana-Golden State trade? Sure looks like Warriors came out a clear winner. I think if Jackson and Harrington were still back with the Pacers, they'd be playing Pistons now instead of Orlando.


Good point mikhail...I think The Pacers were just trying to cleanhouse and thought they were still good enough to get in as the 6 or 7 seed. Those eleven losses in a row kind of ruin that thought. I'm surprised cola hasn't felt the hatchet yet from Bird and Walsh.

mikhail1973
04-23-2007, 02:19 AM
I understand this, but why would you want to bring garbage in while taking garbage out? Now they end up with two "softies" with untreadable contracts - Dunleavy and Murphy. No wonder I've heard "Mullin for president" chants for unloading those two. Now, O'Neal wants to leave. Are they planning on making this an offense-minded team? Then Carlisle has got to leave because he's not an offensively minded coach. It will be interesting, because Bird jumped on opportunity to get Carlisle as soon as he could after Pistons let him go. I am also wondering, how long are Pacers planning on keeping Bird around? He hasn't been able to do much lately and NBA is turning into "what have you done for me lately?" league.

jzchen
04-23-2007, 12:25 PM
Think the Warriors swept us too although we won't be meeting them in the Finals. Warriors seem to have a lot match up problems against No.1 seeds in both the conferences.:hoops:

mikhail1973
04-23-2007, 12:29 PM
The Warriors have not been healthy for the most of the season and struggled because of that. However, when they were healthy - you saw the 16-5 finish to the year. You saw what they can do against many teams, not just Pistons and Mavericks. I wonder what their record would have been if they had Harrington and Jackson for the entire year, as well as healthy Davis. That guy can play.

TaShawn
04-23-2007, 12:32 PM
So, is it safe to say that they got the best of the Indiana trade?

mikhail1973
04-23-2007, 12:38 PM
So, is it safe to say that they got the best of the Indiana trade?

I would say so. We always knew that Warriors could put up points. But their D was non-existant. Now they have a couple of guys that come from Defense first environment. And even though they are not in the same system, the D is going to improve. And the guys are not any worse offensively, maybe even better than Dunleavy and Murphy who couldn't fit into Indiana's style of play (who knows what it is nowadays). I read some local material on the trade (I live in the SF Bay Area) and you could hear the mass exhale when Warriors were able to ship out those two. We don't know how Diogu is going to develop, but short-term Warriors are clearly the winners of this trade.

ahb
04-23-2007, 01:46 PM
It's kind of shocking that Harrington and Stephen Jackson have started playing defense again after several years of minimal effort on that end for Nellie of all coaches.

Jackson did a quite impressive job on Dirk yesterday.

mikhail1973
04-23-2007, 02:03 PM
It's kind of shocking that Harrington and Stephen Jackson have started playing defense again after several years of minimal effort on that end for Nellie of all coaches.

Jackson did a quite impressive job on Dirk yesterday.

Why do you look at it as shocking? Playing for Pop and Carlisle - some of that defensive stuff had to stick.

Dumars4Ever
04-23-2007, 02:25 PM
I took a look over at what I think is the biggest Warriors fan site, goldenstateofmind.com, which my older brother mentioned to me earlier this season (he lives in SF and has Warriors season tickets). They're going nuts over there, and of course they were already thrilled just to be in the playoffs for the first time in 13 years. Their enthusiasm over winning one playoff game certainly comes from a different level of expectations than what we have over here!

One of the posts from last year under their "classics" section was a take on the Warrior Girls that almost looked like it could have been written by HQ. :pound:

mikhail1973
04-23-2007, 03:02 PM
Thanks for the tip, it's an interesting website. And I agree, fans here are really excited about the Warriors. They are not spoiled like we are.

I would go as far as saying that the Warriors WERE our version of Lions. Maybe Lions will get some success this year?

roscoe36
04-23-2007, 03:05 PM
GoldenStateOfMind is the premier Warriors fan blog. It's their Need4Sheed/Detroit Bad Boys.

Wizznutzz are still the best though.

explosivity
04-23-2007, 03:42 PM
Yes he is ... when he's on the floor
He owns Chauncey.

I don't think this should be a surprise though... it's not like they haven't whupped on Dallas all year.

Haha, he owns chaucey. I dont think Chauncey is scared of Baron and I remember this being about team victories not personal battles.

:pound:

dba
04-23-2007, 04:11 PM
Why do you look at it as shocking? Playing for Pop and Carlisle - some of that defensive stuff had to stick.

Remember, we're talking about Stephen Jackson here. That's a hard head to get through. :)

But, no doubt he is a talented player who ought to be able to shut down a lot of folks. If he could get out of his own way.

mercury
04-23-2007, 04:26 PM
Haha, he owns chaucey. I dont think Chauncey is scared of Baron and I remember this being about team victories not personal battles.

:pound:
All you have to do is look at the history of this matchup... Chauncey has always had a tough time getting his shots off on B.D., who is every bit as physical... however Davis has had some excellent games with Chauncey checking him... this has been going on for a while now.
These two are very good friends and know each others moves... they practice together in the summer.

mikhail1973
04-23-2007, 04:29 PM
They also have a very similar built and their games are similar, except that Davis can penetrate and FINISH a lot better than Chauncey. By the way, Davis never had a group of guys around him like Chauncey was able to get in Detroit, and he always seems to be injured. I wonder what would Davis look like in Chauncey's place with Pistons.

ahb
04-23-2007, 05:01 PM
Why do you look at it as shocking? Playing for Pop and Carlisle - some of that defensive stuff had to stick.
I don't remember Jackson actually playing much defense in Indiana, and his confrontations with Carlisle were most of the reason the Pacers traded him.

He was a good defensive player in San Antonio, but that was four, five years ago before he started to really become unglued.

roscoe36
04-23-2007, 05:07 PM
I've always considered Jackson a decent to good defender.

It's his ability as a playmaker that I questioned. He's answered that in G-State.

The easiest way to reform a bad boy is to let him play on an uptempo offensive team. Defensive coaches tend to be stifling and that won't work with an already explosive personality.

mikhail1973
04-23-2007, 06:36 PM
By the way, Dallas now lost 5 straight playoff games going back to the last year's finals.

"More than anything else, we just caught them on a night they didn't shoot the ball very well," Warriors coach Don Nelson said. "That's probably the key to the game, we made some more shots. We made five more. It's just one game. It looks like it will be a long series."

MotownPride
04-25-2007, 11:38 AM
They also have a very similar built and their games are similar, except that Davis can penetrate and FINISH a lot better than Chauncey. By the way, Davis never had a group of guys around him like Chauncey was able to get in Detroit, and he always seems to be injured. I wonder what would Davis look like in Chauncey's place with Pistons.

He would look injured with an inability to make free throws.

Darth Tater
04-25-2007, 11:50 AM
I heard a funny blurb from a Nellie interview yesterday. He has a great self deprecating sense of humor. He was talking about how they were so lucky to win last game and how Dallas would be ready next game and would certainly whomp up on them. "We have a better chance of getting struck by lightning than winning the next game".:pound:

What a character Nellie is. Certainly nothing to write on the Dallas chalk board from that statement. Sheed can learn from this guy. (Although I must admit Sheed's holding his tongue well so far during the playoffs).:tape::fingerscr

TaShawn
04-25-2007, 12:16 PM
This is the ultimate example of one team not having any pressure on them. Nelly knows that and is trying to shoot the moon.

Darth Tater
04-25-2007, 01:06 PM
This is the ultimate example of one team not having any pressure on them. Nelly knows that and is trying to shoot the moon.

My intention is not to bash on Flip here, but I don't ever remember him playing those kinds of mind games on the opposing teams or their coaches.
I mean, I cannot recall even once.

Since he doesn't have a very good reputation for making adjustments during the game, maybe he should attempt to throw them off their game before it even starts.

:ohwell:

dba
04-25-2007, 01:45 PM
My intention is not to bash on Flip here, but I don't ever remember him playing those kinds of mind games on the opposing teams or their coaches.
I mean, I cannot recall even once.

:ohwell:

To be fair, given the Pistons season last year, what was he to say...

"We're number 1 and you're not"

"We're the favorites, you're also rans"

"I don't know why we even bother playing the games."

(Though to be completely fair, he may have been thinking the latter.)

Darth Tater
04-25-2007, 02:11 PM
To be fair, given the Pistons season last year, what was he to say...

"We're number 1 and you're not"

"We're the favorites, you're also rans"

"I don't know why we even bother playing the games."

(Though to be completely fair, he may have been thinking the latter.)

I see your point, but it just seems to me that we were on top with Larry Brown too, and you could always count on him to say something to mess with the opponents mind.

Rip 32
04-25-2007, 04:41 PM
I think it will be a great series especially if GS stays hot cuz the only reason they made the playoffs was hot shooting towardds the end of the season the mavs will pick it up though.

mikhail1973
04-25-2007, 05:17 PM
I think it will be a great series especially if GS stays hot cuz the only reason they made the playoffs was hot shooting towardds the end of the season the mavs will pick it up though.

Rip, I think they got hot because that's the first time in the entire season that they had all of their players healthy and playing. If they had the same group for all of the 82 games I don't think making playoffs would have been a question. The questions that still remain are:
Can Davis stay healthy enough?
Can Jackson stay out of trouble off the court?
Will the young players continue their development?
If all of those answered with "yes" I would think that Warriors should have success for seasons to come. Now, I don't see them as being contenders unless they can play some kind of defense, but they should be entertaining enough and in the playoffs.

ahb
04-25-2007, 10:42 PM
Sean Corbin, as per usual, is pandering to the home crowd.

mikhail1973
04-26-2007, 12:03 AM
These refs are brutal!!! Throwing out the best player on the team in a playoff game for clapping? I think they need to revisit the rule book. And some of the refs clearly need some psych help.

The Low
04-26-2007, 12:04 AM
This game is a crock and extremely lopsided. The only fouls seem to happen on DAL's side of the floor and Baron Davis was just ejected for clapping. The NBA refs and their on the spot made up rules are on my nerves.

This is just insane. It's quite obvious that Stern wants no part of his league favorite going down in the first round to the Warriors. Mission accomplished.

Dumars4Ever
04-26-2007, 12:06 AM
Baron shouldn't have gotten tossed, and those earlier techs were pretty lame, but I don't really know why he was complaining. His fourth and fifth fouls were both pretty obvious calls.

mikhail1973
04-26-2007, 12:12 AM
Baron shouldn't have gotten tossed, and those earlier techs were pretty lame, but I don't really know why he was complaining. His fourth and fifth fouls were both pretty obvious calls.

He was complaining because Dallas got 16 free throws in the 3rd quarter and built that big lead on ref's calls.

mikhail1973
04-26-2007, 12:17 AM
No point in watching the remainder of this. The refs simply won't let Warriors get back into the game. These calls are beyond ridiculous.

The Low
04-26-2007, 12:50 AM
Baron shouldn't have gotten tossed, and those earlier techs were pretty lame, but I don't really know why he was complaining. His fourth and fifth fouls were both pretty obvious calls.

It's not the calls ON Baron that he was so annoyed about. It's the fact that the same plays on their end of the floor weren't being called. So, sure the frustrations come out when he gets whistled, but those guys were more upset that when the same thing happened on the other end of the floor, nothing was called.

Dumars4Ever
04-26-2007, 10:11 AM
There was definitely some crappy officiating going on out there, and I do think some of those refs should at least hear from the league about it, but I agree with what the game re-capper on the Warriors blog (http://www.goldenstateofmind.com/story/2007/4/26/2451/28293#commenttop) said:

No. I do not agree with every whistle blown on our boys tonight. But when I look back on the whole season of officiating on Warriors basketball, I rarely do. I would be happy to credit some (not all) of our foul trouble tonight to these whistles, but in no way does that excuse Jax and Baron from their ejections tonight.

If there is one thing that these two should have learned during the regular season, it's that poor calls are part of the game! It's one thing to get the boot during a regular season game, but why would you taunt the refs when you already have one technical under your belt in a playoff game?! Calm yourself for the good of the rest of your team!!
And the fact that the Warriors had only 9 assists against 24(!) turnovers didn't exactly put them in a good position even without the officiating coming into it.

The Warriors re-capper ends with this:

Think about it Baron. You know I got nothing but love for you. This is for your own good. Oh and tell Jessica (http://www.goldenstateofmind.com/story/2007/4/24/113410/307) to call me.:laugh:

mikhail1973
04-26-2007, 12:27 PM
Here is another interesting blog:
Foul Play (Warriors 99, Mavs 112) - Fast Break: A Warriors fan blog by the San Jose Mercury News - (http://www.mercextra.com/blogs/warriors/2007/04/25/foul-play-warriors-99-mavs-112/)

The TNT announcers and camera crews were so worthless that it was hard to piece together what exactly happened with the ejections of both Baron and Jackson. The initial technicals on Davis and Jackson are clear given their involvement in the dead ball scrum in the middle of the third quarter. The second Davis technical, however, seemed way out of line. Unless Baron was talking more off camera (again, entirely possible), he appears to have been kicked out for clapping sarcastically. I know David Stern wants to clean up the NBA, but there’s a large space between clapping sarcastically and charging into the stands to knock out fans. Jackson’s second technical is equally suspicious based on what we saw. He appears to have been smiling sarcastically. I’d love to hear the league office explain how to differentiate a sarcastic smile from a resigned smile or a tense grin. He had been talking to the refs all quarter prior to getting kicked out, so it was likely a cumulative call, but it looked pretty unnecessary. He left the court demanding over and over again to know what he had said (if my lip reading is correct).


Enough about the refs. They were certainly not the only reason (and probably not the primary one) for the Warriors’ loss.


The guy's got a few good points in there.

The Low
04-26-2007, 12:32 PM
All I know is you can't fault a player because a ref gets to be a jackass. Regardless of whether or not anyone thinks it's a bad idea for Davis to clap sarcastically, his ejection was totally unwarranted. These guys HAVE to be held accountable for how they call the game or it's a farce.

roscoe36
04-27-2007, 11:05 PM
I'm digging this. How can anyone NOT like Golden State?

Stephen Jackson, for the win! :D

mikhail1973
04-27-2007, 11:06 PM
I'm digging this. How can anyone NOT like Golden State?

Stephen Jackson, for the win! :D

Those guys are cool! Also, JRich is on that team. Go Warriors!!!

Dlev59
04-27-2007, 11:18 PM
I'm digging this. How can anyone NOT like Golden State?

Stephen Jackson, for the win! :D

I ordered a throwback GS Jersey the other day!!!:MusicBigGrin:

Dumars4Ever
04-27-2007, 11:19 PM
Those throwbacks with "The City" logo are pretty sweet.

Dlev59
04-27-2007, 11:20 PM
Those throwbacks with "The City" logo are pretty sweet.

Yep, that`s the one!

ahb
04-27-2007, 11:25 PM
I normally dislike Jim Gray's gotcha interviewing, but it's funny to listen to him needle Stern.

Got tickets to Game 4. :party2:

ahb
04-27-2007, 11:26 PM
J-Rich is hot.

Dallas has big problems.

Dumars4Ever
04-27-2007, 11:27 PM
Haven't really been watching this, but the Warriors are whooping that a#$ so far. My bro must be going nuts in the stands. Unfortunately for him, he won't be in town if they get to Game 6!

Dumars4Ever
04-27-2007, 11:58 PM
LOL @ Baron..."My grandmother said she would whoop me if I got kicked out of this game."

Dumars4Ever
04-28-2007, 12:53 AM
Hard to believe how badly the Mavericks are getting stomped here. A 67 win team, but they look totally helpless.

aurora
04-28-2007, 01:03 AM
Hard to believe how badly the Mavericks are getting stomped here. A 67 win team, but they look totally helpless.

Well D4e why do you think this is even possible? I mean I know the reasons we've heard: lots of inseason injury, the midseason trade, Nellie's coaching prowess and the ever noted "matchup problems."

Did Dallas overlook them? Not likely with their knowledge of Nellie and also they got beat by them so many times. I just don't get it.

Could it be that the basketball gods just smile upon Golden State? I watched GS alot in the beginning of the season because I had Biedrins on my fantasy team. I like them, they were fun...but I never ever thought they could look dominant.

The matchup thing is worriesome, because we don't matchup very well against this team either.

I have to say it. I think it's sad. A proud hardworking believing team is getting humiliated. I just hope they can find a way to win the series. It would be devastating for them to get bounced out of the first round. I can hardly watch this game.

Your thoughts D4e? How?

Dumars4Ever
04-28-2007, 01:14 AM
GS does match up really well with them, and Dallas has definitely been lacking in leadership. Baron and Jackson are leading the Warriors and giving their teammates confidence, but nobody's getting it done for Dallas.

Still, I'm waiting on Game 4 before shoveling any dirt on the Mavs' grave. If they win that one, they're back in a good position to win the series. But if they don't...I think they're probably done. Phoenix did come back on the Lakers last year from down 3-1, but these Warriors are definitely a more formidable bunch than last year's Lakers were, and I seriously doubt they would blow it if they got up 3-1.

buddahfan
04-28-2007, 01:15 AM
Anytime a any team from CA can kick the but of a TX dog it makes my day.

Its still too early for "Hasta la vista, baby." but tonight is a good night.

:hoops:

majestik
04-28-2007, 01:17 AM
Looks like GS will take a 2-1 lead into game four of this series. Their starters have outscored the mavs starters 87-63 with 5 minutes left in the game. Most of the stats look fairly even except the 10% difference in fg%. Im going to say GS will take this out in 6....

mikhail1973
04-28-2007, 01:32 AM
Dallas looks lost. When was the last time you saw the whole team look at the coach with question - what do we do now? Warriors are just running them out of the gym. And their getting it done on their defensive end as well.

Dumars4Ever
04-28-2007, 01:39 AM
And we think our DHOFers are bad...the Warriors blog has one poster who's so obsessed with seeing Adonal Foyle play that he's posted multiple comments about being pissed at Nellie for not putting Foyle in. So he's really mad, in spite of the minor fact that they just beat the #1 seed by 18. :laugh:

TaShawn
04-28-2007, 01:52 AM
Nelly = COTY!!!

This is crazy.

mikhail1973
04-28-2007, 01:53 AM
And we think our DHOFers are bad...the Warriors blog has one poster who's so obsessed with seeing Adonal Foyle play that he's posted multiple comments about being pissed at Nellie for not putting Foyle in. So he's really mad, in spite of the minor fact that they just beat the #1 seed by 18. :laugh:


People in the Bay Area are going crazy because their team haven't had any playoffs and any playoff success in ages. You can only imagine what would've happened if Lions would've made the playoffs and were ahead in the playoff game in the 3rd quarter. D-town would go nuts.

mikhail1973
04-28-2007, 02:02 AM
http://www.bayareanewsgroup.com/multimedia/mn/sports/baron_beard.pdf

:reading::ner-ner:

Darth Tater
04-28-2007, 02:15 AM
Still, I'm waiting on Game 4 before shoveling any dirt on the Mavs' grave. If they win that one, they're back in a good position to win the series. But if they don't...I think they're probably done.

The team that wins game 4 almost surely takes this series.

roscoe36
04-28-2007, 09:02 AM
http://www.bayareanewsgroup.com/multimedia/mn/sports/baron_beard.pdf

:reading::ner-ner:
Well it's no afro, but I suppose it will do. :)

buddahfan
04-28-2007, 12:11 PM
People in the Bay Area are going crazy because their team haven't had any playoffs and any playoff success in ages. You can only imagine what would've happened if Lions would've made the playoffs and were ahead in the playoff game in the 3rd quarter. D-town would go nuts.

The Lions make the playoffs. That is too funny. Must be in the fantasy of all fantasy league play. LOL

There is a better chance of Doak Walker rising form his grave and returning to the Lions backfield than their is of the Lions making the playoffs, at least in this decade.

:hoops:

mikhail1973
04-28-2007, 12:12 PM
The Lions make the playoffs. That is too funny. Must be in the fantasy of all fantasy league play. LOL

There is a better chance of Doak Walker rising form his grave and returning to the Lions backfield than their is of the Lions making the playoffs, at least in this decade.

:hoops:


So, you know what I mean then.

:football:

max
04-28-2007, 12:55 PM
People in the Bay Area are going crazy because their team haven't had any playoffs and any playoff success in ages. You can only imagine what would've happened if Lions would've made the playoffs and were ahead in the playoff game in the 3rd quarter. D-town would go nuts.

They all should send Larry Bird a thank you note.

roscoe36
04-28-2007, 02:20 PM
The matchup thing is worriesome, because we don't matchup very well against this team either.

I have to say it. I think it's sad. A proud hardworking believing team is getting humiliated. I just hope they can find a way to win the series. It would be devastating for them to get bounced out of the first round. I can hardly watch this game.

Your thoughts D4e? How?
The Mavs are not playing adequate defense. Despite everything you have heard from Avery Johnson, they still have trouble with uptempo teams because that is really what they are. A hybrid running team.

Teams like Phoenix and G-State lure them into playing up tempo and it kills them. Last night was the most non-Piston bball I have watched this playoffs, and I noticed that the Mavs were not running very many high P&Rs with Dirk, which is basically their bread and butter.

Dallas has to play tougher and find a way to slow the game down.

mikhail1973
04-28-2007, 07:57 PM
Dallas has to start playing with a purpose. They looked lost, especially in the last game. Avery also looked like a guy who has no answers. The question is how deep is their doubt at this time? Can they climb out of that hole? This is going to be interesting to see.

roscoe36
04-29-2007, 11:22 PM
Matt Barnes cannot be trusted to handle the ball on a fastbreak.

Dlev59
04-29-2007, 11:23 PM
Matt Barnes cannot be trusted to handle the ball on a fastbreak.

Sorta like CB.......sometimes.....:stirthepot:

roscoe36
04-29-2007, 11:30 PM
Much worse. lol

Dlev59
04-29-2007, 11:32 PM
These fans are off the hook........

They are having a good time!

roscoe36
04-29-2007, 11:33 PM
OMG!! Davis hits a 3 with 1.1 on the inbounds to tie the game at the half.

Is this a team of destiny?

Dumars4Ever
04-29-2007, 11:35 PM
Wow, Baron hits an INSANE halfcourt shot to tie it at the half. Dallas controlled the pace early, but the Warriors got it going in the second quarter, with Pietrus bringing some crazy energy off the bench. This is exciting stuff!

Jessica Alba is in the house for the Warriors; apparently she's friends with Baron. They need to get her to do her Sin City dance routine at the half.

http://www.celluloid-dreams.de/content/images/kritiken-filmbilder/sin-city/sin-city-7.jpg

Dlev59
04-29-2007, 11:35 PM
I don`t know about a team of destiny, but if they win this game, the rest of the west won`t be afraid, let`s just say they will "proceed with caution"

roscoe36
04-29-2007, 11:39 PM
If Reggie Miller mis-pronounces Desagana Diop or Mikael Pietrus one more time, he should be fired.

He is announcing just like he played. Choking.

Dumars4Ever
04-30-2007, 12:12 AM
Mavs finally showing some heart with a huge run here late in the third...with a little help from the refs along the way.

roscoe36
04-30-2007, 12:13 AM
Some of these calls the Mavs are getting are total BS.

Stephen Jackson has to keep his head straight. He can't let the refs take him out of the game.

Al Harrington sucks.

roscoe36
04-30-2007, 12:26 AM
This is the most fun, non-Pistons basketball I have ever watched.

Tie game at 77 heading to the 4th Q.

Baron Davis has been clutch. The refs have been terrible.

Dallas is not showing much backbone in a tough situation.

majestik
04-30-2007, 12:27 AM
Man, Davis is having an incredible shooting game. Another buzzer beater to end the 3rd. He is 10/13 from the field and leading the charge to take a 3-1 series lead over the favourites. Exciting last quarter ahead...

Dumars4Ever
04-30-2007, 12:28 AM
Yeah, this is great stuff! The crowd is going berserk. Gonna be a heckuva finish to this game.

When he really has it going, Baron is unbelievable. If you could design a prototype for a 6'2"/6'3" guard with the strength, quickness, and hops to be able to get the bucket at will and dominate in transition, it would pretty much be him.

roscoe36
04-30-2007, 12:32 AM
The Warriors have to find a way to limit CHOKEHOUSE.

Dumars4Ever
04-30-2007, 12:35 AM
Letting Dirk shoot seems to be one way of doing it. He probably deserves the regular season MVP award, but this is a crap postseason so far for him.

LOL @ Biedrins shooting FTs...some serious bricks.

roscoe36
04-30-2007, 12:41 AM
The more I watch Biedrins play, the more I realize he has no clue what he is doing.

Dumars4Ever
04-30-2007, 12:44 AM
Now every single player on the floor is choking, except for Stackhouse!

aurora
04-30-2007, 12:52 AM
This game has been torture to watch. I have no idea who will win this ball game. You could flip a coin. I keep looking up from my ebay search for a nicer Hamilton jersey and the score is never any farther apart. Only 2:30 left, GS up by 1.

Dlev59
04-30-2007, 12:55 AM
Wow...........

I got to get to freakin sleep!!!!

This is awesome!

Dumars4Ever
04-30-2007, 12:57 AM
OMG BIEDRINS AND ONE FROM BARON!

mercury
04-30-2007, 12:58 AM
Reminds me of hungrier days at the Palace

Dumars4Ever
04-30-2007, 12:58 AM
OK, and none...LOL.

Dumars4Ever
04-30-2007, 01:00 AM
Wow, and a steal...unbelievable.

Was that Mitch Richmond hanging out with Mullin in the luxury box?

roscoe36
04-30-2007, 01:00 AM
CHOKEHOUSE!!!

Dlev59
04-30-2007, 01:01 AM
The Warriors have the potent Mav`s on lock down!

Dumars4Ever
04-30-2007, 01:02 AM
Warriors are SO CLUTCH here, and the Mavs are CHOKING...this is staggering!

Dlev59
04-30-2007, 01:03 AM
There goes everybody`s playoff brackets if this keeps up!!!!!!!

Dumars4Ever
04-30-2007, 01:06 AM
Dirk waited a little late to start hitting treys.

Dlev59
04-30-2007, 01:07 AM
The Mav`s will go down as one of the biggest chokers in NBA history if they go on to lose this series.........

Dumars4Ever
04-30-2007, 01:08 AM
Pietrus with a steal to clinch it.

A 67 win team on the brink of going down in the FIRST ROUND! Wow. Whatcha gonna do, Cuban?

roscoe36
04-30-2007, 01:08 AM
If the Warriors like Biedrins, Richardson, Pietrus etc had any bball IQ, they would have won this game by 20.

Amazing win nonetheless.

Dumars4Ever
04-30-2007, 01:09 AM
Dlev, I think we will be "Nowitnessing" that history pretty soon. :lol:

roscoe36
04-30-2007, 01:09 AM
Don Nelson vs. Avery Johnson.

The teacher still owns the student.

Btw, when Don Nelson left the Mavs, he claimed Cuban owed him money. There is some bad blood here.

Darth Tater
04-30-2007, 01:13 AM
I really can't believe this is happening. I'm rooting for the underdog but I feel bad for Dallas after last year.

But this helps the Eastern teams because the winner has a better chance of getting home court against the West if teams with good records like Dallas go down.

Dumars4Ever
04-30-2007, 01:14 AM
Only way we get home court in the Finals is if Dallas AND Phoenix AND San Antonio ALL go down before the finals...not too likely.

LA Dre
04-30-2007, 01:15 AM
dang I almost picked the Warriors in 7....but went with the percentages and chose the Mavs in 7...still may happen, but these Warriors are...well Warriors.

I didn't see Cuban, but you can tell by the look on Avery's face that he was seeing hs life pass in front of him. :MusicBigGrin: Meanwhile Nelly may be the happiest coach in the world come Tuesday

This was a bad matchup for the Mavs and just as the bulls were for the Heat. The warriors swept them during th regular season and they may kick them out of the post season too.

Oh yeah that was Mitch Richmond up in the box with Mullins.

The fans in northern California had more fun than the ones in SoCal today.

ahb
04-30-2007, 01:17 AM
That was the single best basketball game I've ever seen in person.

I (heart) Jerry Chokehouse for the disappearing act after his third-quarter D-Whistle act, and Dirk Nowitzki for failing to show up until the outcome was all but determined.

Don Nelson coached one hell of a game - his switch to matchup zone in the middle of the fourth was brilliant.

Baron Davis... incredible.

J-Rich... Barnes... Pietrus... and Stephen Jackson's got that lighting back in the bottle.

Dlev59
04-30-2007, 01:19 AM
Don Nelson actually said he believes they could win this game (the game tonight) but he said he wasn`t sure if they could win the series. HUH???

Perhaps he was being very humble and didn`t want to show up his student Avery Johnson.

I have never heard a coach question his teams chances being up 3-1 in a series.

Darth Tater
04-30-2007, 01:27 AM
Don Nelson actually said he believes they could win this game (the game tonight) but he said he wasn`t sure if they could win the series. HUH???

Perhaps he was being very humble and didn`t want to show up his student Avery Johnson.

I have never heard a coach question his teams chances being up 3-1 in a series.

He doesn't want to say anything to give Dallas any reason to wake up and find something to rally around.

Smart. Gotta give Nellie a ton of credit.

HelloIDistance
04-30-2007, 01:34 AM
Man I love these Golden State Warriors. Look at how much heart they play with. That was one of the best games I have seen in awhile! I can't believe how Dallas choked at the end. It seemed like no one wanted to shoot it. Then finally Dirk hit a couple treys, but all to late!

mikhail1973
04-30-2007, 02:22 AM
Dallas is in the big time trouble. They are still looking lost out there. This is too weird for a team that was in the finals last year, then won over 60 games this year. Maybe their last year's finals appearance was a fluke, just like Miami's? Maybe they are just a great regular season team, but not a playoff-caliber team? But at this juncture they don't seem to be able to score when needed and in addition can't stop Warriors on the D. Looks all but over at this point.

Nemo
04-30-2007, 09:19 AM
I've seen too many times where teams enter a series and look lost. This happens because of good coaching and game strategy. I remember the Lakers lost look back in 2004. The Heat had it this year against the Bulls. When the Bulls called out the Heat before the series, I thought for sure the Heat would make them PAY...........What's happened to Dirk. He's entered the Twilight Zone..........................

Dumars4Ever
04-30-2007, 09:45 AM
I saw a snippet from Nellie's post-game press conference where he said "The Force was with us tonight"...is he actually DARTH NELLIE? :darthvader: Or maybe it's Obi Don Kenobi. :obiwan: The Nellie vs. Avery matchup in this series definitely has the feeling of...

:fight2:

TaShawn
04-30-2007, 09:59 AM
This could have been a sweep if Davis and Jackson wouldn't have been ejected in game 2.

roscoe36
04-30-2007, 10:03 AM
What a thrilling game. I am still buzzing 10 hours later.

Dumars4Ever
04-30-2007, 10:09 AM
The closest series from previous years that I can think of to compare this one to is Phoenix-Lakers from 1990, when the Suns upset them 4-1 in the second round. The Lakers had led the league with 63 wins, but the Suns stole a close Game 1 in LA, dominated Games 3 and 4 in Phoenix, and then stole another close Game 5 to wrap it up. Of course the main difference was that the Suns were a 54 win team that year, and they had been to the conference finals just the year before, whereas the Warriors are an 8th seed that hasn't been in the playoffs for 13 years.

Dumars4Ever
04-30-2007, 10:11 AM
What a thrilling game. I am still buzzing 20 hours later.

The buzz seems to have dulled your ability to do arithmetic. The game actually ended about 9 hours ago. ;)

CloudWalker
04-30-2007, 10:25 AM
Well the Mavs still have the regular season Championship.:pound:

roscoe36
04-30-2007, 10:30 AM
The buzz seems to have dulled your ability to do arithmetic. The game actually ended about 9 hours ago. ;)
Fixed. And I'm exhausted, ok! :MusicBigGrin:

anakin
04-30-2007, 10:49 AM
Honestly, wouldn't Flip have been crucified if the Pistons were in the hole like the Mavs? Avery has been heralded as the superior coach but the Mavs look lost out there. Granted GS is a good team and are creating matchup problems but the Mavs are deep, fairly young and loaded with talent. Did anyone expect them to see them have their arses handed to them?

They still may pull this out, but it seems remote. Hopefully the Pistons are watching closely and not underestimate the Bulls.

Dumars4Ever
04-30-2007, 11:26 AM
Avery has accomplished more than Flip by getting to the finals, but given how tentative they've looked in this series, he's going to be under a heck of a lot of pressure if they don't somehow pull it out. And even if they do, it's clear that they've taken a step back from where they were in the playoffs last year.

I e-mailed my Warriors fan older brother about Biedrins' FT shooting motion, observing that it looks like his stroke is "the deformed offspring of the FT motions of Anthony Mason and Shaq." My bro responded by insisting that his stroke is actually "much improved" over last year, although it's "still awful."

TaShawn
04-30-2007, 11:34 AM
I'm pretty sure the Warriors would easily be beating the Magic right now.

Dumars4Ever
04-30-2007, 11:49 AM
How do we think the Pistons would be doing against them? The Warriors are playing great, and Detroit would clearly have little chance of stopping Baron, but I don't think they'd be slowing us down much either. No way we'd be sweeping them, but I think we could handle them in 5 or 6. I can't see the Warriors getting the consistent turnovers and crappy 4th quarter execution that have plagued the Mavs if the Warriors were going up against the Pistons instead.

ahb
04-30-2007, 12:20 PM
http://espn.go.com/photo/2007/0427/nba_g_nowitzki_268.jpg

TaShawn
04-30-2007, 02:38 PM
Is it my imagination, or is Baron Davis slowly turning into B.A. Baracus?

roscoe36
04-30-2007, 07:40 PM
The Baron of Davis (http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-23-133/The-Baron-of-Davis.html)

Interesting read.

Also: more fresh stuff from today's Warriors practice on Warriors.com, including Don Nelson saying (http://www.nba.com/warriors/news/2007_Playoff_Blog.html): "I've coached some great players, but I've never coached a guy that's any better than Baron Davis."

TheeTFD
05-01-2007, 01:19 AM
When did Nelson learn to teach defense?
I bet a burning Cuban has a nice aroma.

TheeTFD
05-01-2007, 01:32 AM
PTI, did a bit about Biedrens FT and Chucksters golf swing. Which was more abhorant to watch. Chucksters golf swing is paraplegic looking.

Dumars4Ever
05-01-2007, 09:19 AM
A bit of controversy swirling around some of Dirk's most recent remarks (http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/6740988):

Whatever the reason, the expected league MVP talked Monday about being ready to shrink from the spotlight even more than he already has in Game 5 Tuesday night.

"I got to take what they give me and they don't really give me a lot," said Nowitzki, who is averaging 20 points and has yet to score more than 23. "So I've got to make other stuff happen - help out on defense more; hit the glass harder, as hard as I can, get some extra possessions; if I have a shot, try to knock it down and if I don't, move the ball and let someone else make a shot"...


Coach Avery Johnson was angered by Nowitzki's comments, which are typical of his attitude throughout this series.

"I'm tired of hearing about how they've taken him out of his game and any lack of confidence. You're just not supposed to have that, all right," said Johnson, perhaps the team's most intense player even though he's no longer playing.

"I wasn't the best of players and didn't have the best of skills, but you were not going to shake my confidence. We need all of our players to be confident, to be resilient, to be persistent and that's what I want to see tomorrow. If I don't see it at shootaround, I'm going to be highly upset ... because I need to have it going into that game tomorrow night. We've got to be confident and really sure about what we're doing."

And if he doesn't see it?

"We'll figure something out," Johnson said. "We'll figure something out."

roscoe36
05-01-2007, 09:46 AM
Desperation. If you gotta call out the league MVP, you got problems.

Viva Le Nash!

CloudWalker
05-01-2007, 09:51 AM
Desperation. If you gotta call out the league MVP, you got problems.



Hey...MVP's a regular season award isn't it? :)

Dumars4Ever
05-01-2007, 10:20 AM
And the playoff MVP so far is in the same series as Dirk, but on the other team (Baron).

explosivity
05-01-2007, 10:20 AM
Very true and Steve Nash is the "King of the regular season." I know a lot of us in here have a "hard-on" for this guy that is accumulating an abundance of individual awards. He also has argurably the most talented team on paper. However, can he get it done in the playoffs and actually get to an NBA Finals, remains to be seen.

Two kinds of teams, the kind that make excuses and the kind that execute.

Go Pistons!!!!!!!!!!!

roscoe36
05-01-2007, 10:46 AM
I don't think Nash gets a fair shake for his playoff performances.

2 years ago, they got beat by the NBA Champs (San Antonio) in the WCF. It went 5 games.

Last year, without Amare, they made it to the WCF again and lost to Dallas in 6.

Top 4, two years in a row is nothing to sneeze at as far as playoff performances. The Pistons only did marginally better.

We're talking about a guy who averaged 20+/10+ (points/assists) in those last two playoff years, shooting 50%+ from the floor, 90%+ from the line and 37%+ from beyond the arc.

Now JWill and Tony Parker both won titles in that period, but can you honestly say you would take either of them over Nash (forget age)?

The dude has been great consistently. With the Mavs looking at an early exit, The Suns really have to worry only about the Spurs in the WCF barring another series upset.

barbara SanAntone
05-01-2007, 11:28 AM
Don Nelson vs. Avery Johnson.

The teacher still owns the student.

Btw, when Don Nelson left the Mavs, he claimed Cuban owed him money. There is some bad blood here.

Hey Roscoe, I think this is strictly Nelson vs. Cuban. A little bit of history here. In previous GSW games against Mavs (GSW won all) Nelson says Cuban owes him 6 million and is suing Cuban to get it. And then, at start of season, Cuban wouldnt put up the Division championship banner in first games, but waited until they played GSW. So, it's sticking it more to Cuban, not Avery. Avery, Nellie and Pop all have a good, working-type relationship, so it's easy for them to see how each coach plays, Nellie has the players that Mavs cant match, they are good and he knows how to play them.

I think the psychological effect this has on Kirk is surprising (to all but Avery and Nellie). Remember how he was in a major depression after loss to the Heat and took all summer to get over it? Anyway, if Nellie can pull this off I am sure it will feel better than the 6 million he will probably never get from Cuban:)

explosivity
05-01-2007, 11:42 AM
I don't think Nash gets a fair shake for his playoff performances.

2 years ago, they got beat by the NBA Champs (San Antonio) in the WCF. It went 5 games.

Last year, without Amare, they made it to the WCF again and lost to Dallas in 6.

Top 4, two years in a row is nothing to sneeze at as far as playoff performances. The Pistons only did marginally better.

We're talking about a guy who averaged 20+/10+ (points/assists) in those last two playoff years, shooting 50%+ from the floor, 90%+ from the line and 37%+ from beyond the arc.



Now JWill and Tony Parker both won titles in that period, but can you honestly say you would take either of them over Nash (forget age)?

The dude has been great consistently. With the Mavs looking at an early exit, The Suns really have to worry only about the Spurs in the WCF barring another series upset.


Ros you make some excellent points in regard to Steve Nash and his statistical prowess. I love Nash he is an unbelievable talent on a great team that everyone loves to watch. I dont think anyone can debate his success and his team's relative success. However, the NBA more than any other league or sport really emphasizes the attainment of a championship to really cement your legacy as a true legendary player. Steve Nash has not even been to an NBA Finals and may never be in his career. Now obviously I think we all agree that he is of a higher calibur than Williams and Parker, there is no debating that. In saying all that there is no reason why he can't at least make it to the Finals once. If he never makes it, it would be very hard for me to put him in the same breath as Isiah, Magic, or even Stockton. To me when you are an elite player what separates you from the other elite players is how well your team does ESPECIALLY in the playoffs.

Also I would have to disagree as far as you stating that our run is marginally better than the Suns. We have been to the Conf. Finals 2 more times, acquired 2 conf. titles and 1 NBA crown. That to me sounds a whole hell of a lot better as far as I'm concerned. If Nash fails again this year to make to the Finals you might as well put him in the same class as a Tracy McGrady. Great player, no real team success. In saying all that I hope he makes it this year but I have to say I doubt it. :toilet:

:stirthepot:

TaShawn
05-01-2007, 12:02 PM
Does Nash play defense? I haven't seen it.

He's really great at 50% of the game. So is Bruce Bowen. So was Dennis Rodman. So is Ben Wallace. Man, I'm having trouble thinking of defensive geniuses who don't have Titles...

CloudWalker
05-01-2007, 12:16 PM
Does Nash play defense? I haven't seen it.

He's really great at 50% of the game. So is Bruce Bowen. So was Dennis Rodman. So is Ben Wallace. Man, I'm having trouble thinking of defensive geniuses who don't have Titles...

He's not prolific. He doesn't exactly get lit up either.

Probably puts him in top 10% of the league by todays NBA standards.

TaShawn
05-01-2007, 12:43 PM
He's not prolific. He doesn't exactly get lit up either.

Probably puts him in top 10% of the league by todays NBA standards.

Fair enough. I admit that I don't really watch him much. I just assume he is bad because of his size.

No doubt he is blowing away the guard he's playing against overall, but he really should have advanced further into the playoffs. The only reason I can think of, is that his defensive limitations are magnified in the playoff environment.

explosivity
05-01-2007, 12:44 PM
Does Nash play defense? I haven't seen it.

He's really great at 50% of the game. So is Bruce Bowen. So was Dennis Rodman. So is Ben Wallace. Man, I'm having trouble thinking of defensive geniuses who don't have Titles...

Cosigned @ TaShawn

ahb
05-01-2007, 02:07 PM
When did Nelson learn to teach defense?
In the '60s.

It's kind of funny that he hasn't even tried to coach defense since... what? his last few years with the Bucks? and suddenly a terrible defensive team during the regular season, and probably the worst defensive personnel he's ever coached, is completely confusing one of the best offenses in the NBA.

(That, and Avery Johnson's crush on Chokehouse, which doesn't seem to be abating no matter how many playoff games he costs them.)

Dumars4Ever
05-01-2007, 02:16 PM
Can you really blame Stack for costing them Game 4? He was insanely hot early in the 4th quarter. I don't think it's his fault that Dirk was choking down the stretch.

ahb
05-01-2007, 02:26 PM
Stackhouse Free Throw 1 of 2 (16 PTS) 10:32 [DAL 80-79]
Stackhouse Free Throw 2 of 2 (17 PTS) 10:32
Stackhouse Free Throw 1 of 2 (18 PTS) 10:01 [DAL 82-79]
Stackhouse Free Throw 2 of 2 (19 PTS) 10:01
Stackhouse 3pt Shot: Made (22 PTS) 8:03 [DAL 86-81]
Stackhouse Jump Shot: Made (24 PTS) 7:21 [DAL 88-81]
Stackhouse Jump Shot: Missed 6:34
Stackhouse 3pt Shot: Missed 4:06
Stackhouse 3pt Shot: Missed 3:25
Stackhouse 3pt Shot: Missed 2:13
Stackhouse Turnover:Traveling (4 TO) 1:19

I'm not totally blaming Stack; he (and a number of bad calls from the refs sending him to the line) did carry the Mavs during a long stretch in the mid-second half.

But it's not a coincidence that time and time again a hot Stack goes ice-cold when the game gets past the half-way mark of the 4th; we've seen it time and time again when Stack was dribbling off his foot and missing key free throws in Detroit. And I'm sure that Avery Johnson's seen Stack melt down under pressure several times in the playoffs before, if he's actually watching the games he's coaching. Yet he continues to trust Stack as a creator in the clutch, even above players like Dirk (he may not demand the shot like he should but he's not a choker) and the truly dangerous clutch shooter Terry.

TaShawn
05-01-2007, 02:32 PM
Jerry Stackhouse of the Dallas Mavericks, clutch NBA player stats and data from 82games.com (http://www.82games.com/0607/06DAL7E.HTM)

Robert Horry of the San Antonio Spurs, clutch NBA player stats and data from 82games.com (http://www.82games.com/0607/06SAS12E.HTM)

ahb
05-01-2007, 03:20 PM
Get some playoff data and get back to me.

TaShawn
05-01-2007, 03:35 PM
Get some playoff data and get back to me.

Why, you weren't happy with the data I supplied? I worked hard for that data. And this is the thanks I get?

Do your own data.

Darth Tater
05-01-2007, 03:44 PM
Guys, go pick a cartoon character. :MusicBigGrin:

ahb
05-01-2007, 03:57 PM
Do your own data.
I'll do that and get back to you.

Don't call me.

roscoe36
05-01-2007, 04:22 PM
I'm feeling the love guys. It's a beautiful thing. :)

Darth Tater
05-01-2007, 04:24 PM
I'm feeling the love guys. It's a beautiful thing. :)

This is all YOUR fault Roscoe. Everyone is irritable because you made us pick Toronto over Jersey. :captain:

TaShawn
05-01-2007, 05:02 PM
This is all YOUR fault Roscoe. Everyone is irritable because you made us pick Toronto over Jersey. :captain:

Hey, if that one guy's ankle wouldn't have broken into a thousand pieces, the Raps would probably still be competitive.

roscoe36
05-01-2007, 07:02 PM
Garbajosa has been a big part of the Raps successes. He's a utility guy. He will board, make passes, get physical, hit an open jumper.

For a young team, having a 30 year old with Olympic Gold Medal experience is a big plus.

roscoe36
05-01-2007, 07:27 PM
Getting back on topic, here is some info on Cuban vs. Nelson.

Wall Street Journal on Don Nelson vs. Mark Cuban (http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-24-1/Wall-Street-Journal-on-Don-Nelson-vs--Mark-Cuban.html)

Dumars4Ever
05-01-2007, 10:21 PM
A little over 6 minutes in, and the Mavs are on pace to score about 200 points. We'll see how the Warriors react to this onslaught.

ahb
05-01-2007, 10:36 PM
Warriors staying in it.

I usually don't mind players complaining, but to watch that little flopping Jerry Seinfeld clone
whine about being called for an obvious loose ball foul is a bit much.

The playoffs will get a lot better when the Mavs and Suns are knocked out.

Dumars4Ever
05-01-2007, 10:42 PM
Warriors will have a tough time staying in it if Pietrus keeps missing 1-footers.

ahb
05-01-2007, 10:44 PM
The Mavericks should have about 15 fouls this quarter going by the rules Cuban helped institute.

The Warriors aren't helping themselves with these shots, but the Dallas hacking is getting out of control.

roscoe36
05-01-2007, 10:50 PM
Warriors squandering chances. Showing their inexperience.

Dlev59
05-01-2007, 10:53 PM
Golden State better end this in Oakland on Thursday.........

ahb
05-01-2007, 10:54 PM
Vintage Nellieball.

Golden State may as well pull Baron and Jackson right now and hope their team can get cooler heads and better referees in Game 6.

Dumars4Ever
05-01-2007, 10:55 PM
We can see here why the Warriors' style of play isn't the stuff that champions are made of. When they're on, they're pretty great, but get them a bit off their game and the result can be an avalanche of turnovers, forced shots that don't go down, and almost constant wide open looks for the other team.

Dumars4Ever
05-01-2007, 10:56 PM
ahb, I'll agree that the Mavs are getting some pretty beneficial treatment from the refs here, but you can't point to that as a decisive factor so far, can you?

roscoe36
05-01-2007, 11:01 PM
Hand in the rim, no call.

Dallas is getting the ref carpet.

But GSW are not helping themselves either.

Dumars4Ever
05-01-2007, 11:03 PM
Is Al Harrington stuck in elementary school? He's just standing on the opposite side of the court from the ball and waving his arms outside the 3-point line. I did more or less the same thing in a game at basketball camp one summer, and when I tried to tell the guy who had been doubled in the post that I was open, he snapped my head off for not moving off the ball to where he could see me. A lesson I learned well...and I was in sixth grade.

roscoe36
05-01-2007, 11:03 PM
Haha, CHOKEHOUSE and then a Dirk offensive foul. Bad call on Dirk, but hey, all is fair in love and war.

ahb
05-01-2007, 11:05 PM
OK, "moving screen" as an offense loses almost all meaning when Dirk slides back and forth like a human trombone trying to pick Ellis off of Terry.

They're picking up semi-obvious charges, though.

No, I would call it decisive if GSW could manage to hit a layup, but right now it's just a secondary factor.

12 point game.

ahb
05-01-2007, 11:07 PM
Jackson, I could kiss that ugly mug of yours.

roscoe36
05-01-2007, 11:07 PM
Wow, Warriors making a run. Avery is really trying to rub the Warriors noses in it by playing Austin No Powers.

Dumars4Ever
05-01-2007, 11:09 PM
That was definitely a nice run. Warriors only down 7 at the half after being down by 21 earlier. Whoa, and Dirk just got T'd up?! On Stack, as it turns out.

Before the NJ-Toronto game, Barkley agreed that if Golden State wins the series, he would wear a Warriors jersey for game 1 of the next series. :laugh:

ahb
05-01-2007, 11:11 PM
LOL at the Mavs complaining about referees.

"How do you stave off elimination?". They really couldn't get anyone better than their #4 crew to do this game?

roscoe36
05-01-2007, 11:15 PM
Where is this guy when you need him?

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/7734/patricktwo09155e9f7sx6.jpg

ahb
05-01-2007, 11:15 PM
:pound:

ahb
05-01-2007, 11:33 PM
Baron Davis is finally heating up.

roscoe36
05-01-2007, 11:35 PM
Biedrins hits a FT!!!

ahb
05-01-2007, 11:36 PM
Terry should be ejected for that kind of %%%%.

Lucky that one of the Warriors two feet from him didn't retaliate.

Dumars4Ever
05-01-2007, 11:36 PM
Great job by the Warriors to get all the way back into this. And now a tech on Terry?!?! LOL at the ridiculous acting by Baron...maybe the refs are evening things out here. Are the Mavs going to collapse here under the pressure?

roscoe36
05-01-2007, 11:37 PM
What the hell is Terry thinking?

Dumars4Ever
05-01-2007, 11:38 PM
Terry should be ejected for that kind of %%%%.

Lucky that one of the Warriors two feet from him didn't retaliate.

Take off those golden-colored lenses, ahb. Baron's Hollywood buddies would be proud of him for that acting job.

ahb
05-01-2007, 11:38 PM
Did the arena announcer just say "Let's go Mavs you rock"?

Biedrins tries Dirk's over-the-back move and gets called for the foul.

roscoe36
05-01-2007, 11:39 PM
Take off those golden-colored lenses, ahb. Baron's Hollywood buddies would be proud of him for that acting job.
I dunno D4. Lemme bend you over backwards with your arms.

It was stupid and dangerous of Terry to do that. Did Baron lay on the floor? Probably. Did Terry flip him over? Damn straight.

ahb
05-01-2007, 11:40 PM
Baron's Hollywood buddies would be proud of him for that acting job.
Perhaps, but I would be shocked if Terry isn't suspended if the Mavs manage to pull this off.

Tie game back to a 4 point lead awfully quick.

Dumars4Ever
05-01-2007, 11:41 PM
Whatever. They got a bit tangled up, Terry pulled his arms away, and Baron went down as if he was getting suplexed by Hulk Hogan.

Dumars4Ever
05-01-2007, 11:42 PM
Shades of Ben Wallace with Biedrins at the line!

Darth Tater
05-01-2007, 11:42 PM
LOL.

You guys are great. I don't even need to watch the game. I am getting awesome play by play and color commentary just by hitting the refresh button.

ahb
05-01-2007, 11:44 PM
LOL at a travel call in the NBA.

They somehow manage to ignore Terry hopping down the lane, but an uncontested dunk for the Warriors? Tweet.

roscoe36
05-01-2007, 11:48 PM
I'd love to see Terry suspended.

roscoe36
05-01-2007, 11:49 PM
@ahb, that travel by Jackson was pretty blatant. SJax can be really good and really bad. He better get it back together soon, they can close this series out any time they want.

ahb
05-01-2007, 11:50 PM
I'm glad they called it - I just wish they'd call more of them.


Get your scoring out of the way in the third, Stack. :stirthepot:

Dumars4Ever
05-01-2007, 11:50 PM
He better get it back together soon, they can close this series out any time they want.

Yeah. Whenever they're not being totally sloppy, it becomes clear that the Warriors are the better team in this series.

ahb
05-01-2007, 11:53 PM
Dick Stockton could get a corpse to desperately crawl away from him out of boredom.

Dumars4Ever
05-01-2007, 11:53 PM
Is Matt Barnes the new Horry? He's hitting tons of clutch 3s.

roscoe36
05-01-2007, 11:53 PM
Chokehouse scoring now will pay off for the Warriors at the end of the game when he suddenly "stops feeling it" but like Antoine Walker jacking up threes, cannot stop himself from taking more shots...

ahb
05-01-2007, 11:57 PM
Barnes needs to attack Diop, get him to pick up his fifth.

If Avery is forced to put Mo Evans back in the Mavs are finished.

ahb
05-01-2007, 11:59 PM
Stack out of control, to the line.

jammertime
05-02-2007, 12:00 AM
Tonight is the first night I've had a chance to check out this series.

Dang, the Warriors are for real. They are a fast, fast team - it's especially apparent on the defensive end of the floor.

ahb
05-02-2007, 12:02 AM
Seinfeld's taken two 3 point attempts in the last few minutes. :nerd2:

Dallas by 3 going into the 4th.

Dumars4Ever
05-02-2007, 12:02 AM
3 point game going into the 4th. Looks like it could be another tight finish!

ahb
05-02-2007, 12:07 AM
Chokehouse is in the building.

ahb
05-02-2007, 12:09 AM
Barnes throws it down over Seinfeld!

Warriors take the lead!

Dumars4Ever
05-02-2007, 12:09 AM
WHOA that was a huge dunk by Barnes to give the Warriors the lead! And now he's limping...a Wade-style plea for sympathy?

roscoe36
05-02-2007, 12:10 AM
I like Matt Barnes. I think it is his SF Punk hairdo.

roscoe36
05-02-2007, 12:10 AM
Barnes has been playing on one leg for the entire 4th. He was limping long before the dunk.

Dumars4Ever
05-02-2007, 12:12 AM
Well, he certainly wasn't limping as he flew down the lane for that throwdown!

ahb
05-02-2007, 12:17 AM
How can someone who couldn't shoot a jumper to save his life get so many layups?

333333333333333333333

roscoe36
05-02-2007, 12:20 AM
CHOKEHOUSE!

ahb
05-02-2007, 12:20 AM
Chokehouse TO. And Avery has the sense to take Stack out of the game?

Cro airball!

Dumars4Ever
05-02-2007, 12:21 AM
20-foot fadeaway atempt by Croshere? Not what Dallas is looking for.

roscoe36
05-02-2007, 12:23 AM
It's your entire season on the line, Josh Howard has 5 fouls. Devin Harris has been your only source of offense. You sit Jason the Jet Terry, and play

Austin "Free Chili" Croshere

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/8537/0381271943357yl7.jpg

ahb
05-02-2007, 12:26 AM
Seinfeld is the kind of player I used to love to foul.

BARON ALLEYOOP TO JASON RICHARDSON! WARRIORS BY 4!

Diop airballs a free throw. I don't even think Biedrins has done that yet.

Dumars4Ever
05-02-2007, 12:26 AM
HUGE OOP to J-Rich from Baron after a Terry miss.

Dumars4Ever
05-02-2007, 12:27 AM
Wow, Diop airballs the 2nd FT...LOL.

Dumars4Ever
05-02-2007, 12:28 AM
Holy toledo, Warriors by 6 with 4 minutes left. I think they've got this one.

ahb
05-02-2007, 12:28 AM
J-Rich for three!

Cuban's finally lost it. :pound:

roscoe36
05-02-2007, 12:28 AM
JRich wants this so bad. The Mavericks simply do not have another gear.

Darth Tater
05-02-2007, 12:28 AM
You've got to be excited for Golden State.

5 minutes away from a monumental upset. I can't think of a bigger one.

ahb
05-02-2007, 12:31 AM
Cuban is incapable of doing anything but clapping robotically.

Chokehouse!

ahb
05-02-2007, 12:31 AM
Baron Davis with the Larry Bird three!

Warriors by 9!

Dumars4Ever
05-02-2007, 12:32 AM
Chokehouse definitely in effect here.

ahb
05-02-2007, 12:32 AM
Chokehouse misses a wide-open jumper with 2 and a half to play.

Dirk is finally starting to show up. 3 point game.

LA Dre
05-02-2007, 12:32 AM
Is it Dirk time?

Dumars4Ever
05-02-2007, 12:33 AM
But now Dirk with a big block and a 3 to cut the lead to 3.

Dumars4Ever
05-02-2007, 12:34 AM
Dirk also hit some big ones late in Game 4, but only when it was a two or three possession game, not when they could tie or take the lead. We'll see if they can get that done in the last two minutes here.

Darth Tater
05-02-2007, 12:37 AM
I have Dirk in that Ozark contest thing tonight, but I'm rooting against my own guy. :clone:

Dumars4Ever
05-02-2007, 12:37 AM
Warriors might blow this with terrible shot selection. Now can Dirk hit the big FTs?

ahb
05-02-2007, 12:39 AM
Nelson needs to find a play to call. Any play at all.

This is the biggest chokejob in the history of western civilisation.

Dumars4Ever
05-02-2007, 12:39 AM
Wow. Major collapse by the Warriors...and Baron just fouled out.

Dumars4Ever
05-02-2007, 12:41 AM
And now they can't rebound the FT...man, just a complete and total collapse in the last couple of minutes.

roscoe36
05-02-2007, 12:42 AM
The good part about this is, I get to see another one of these games this week, from Oakland!

I don't think the Mavs can win 3 straight.

Dumars4Ever
05-02-2007, 12:42 AM
"It turned out to be a smart foul"...WTF, Reggie.

ahb
05-02-2007, 12:43 AM
Will be interesting to see if Terry is suspended for Game 6.

Dumars4Ever
05-02-2007, 12:44 AM
The one concern for the Warriors is going to be in bouncing back from such an utter choke in the last couple of minutes, when they clearly had it won. However, they did take the Mavs' best shot in the first half and came all the way back. I'm still pretty sure that their crowd will get them over the top in Game 6.

LA Dre
05-02-2007, 12:45 AM
This is why you try going to the paint to secure victories. Why continue to throw up 3 balls when you are leading or the game is close????? Warriors blew this one.

They better hope that the they can continue the adrenaline they had in this game carries over to Oakland and crowd shows up with help them....I mean they need Mullins, Richmond, Jessica Alba, Swarzenegger, and Barry Bonds show to cheer them on:MusicBigGrin:

Dumars4Ever
05-02-2007, 12:45 AM
Will be interesting to see if Terry is suspended for Game 6.

Don't hold your breath. I will voluntarily wear any avatar that you and Roscoe can come up with, for the next week, if that happens.

jammertime
05-02-2007, 12:46 AM
Wow, what a great game.

That was a lousy 6th foul call on Davis.

Stephen Jackson is easy to hate.

Mavs on a 15-0 run.

Dumars4Ever
05-02-2007, 12:48 AM
Gotta give Dirk some credit. Baron hits an insane 3 to put the Warriors up 9, Dirk comes right back with a 3, a block, and then another 3. Plus 4-4 from the FT line in the last minute.

mikhail1973
05-02-2007, 12:49 AM
Well, Warriors blew a great chance to wrap it up. Up by 9 with 3 minutes to go and they don't score again. Now they may be in a world of hurt. Dallas is getting more confident as time goes by. I also don't get that 6th foul on Davis. And, what in the hell is wrong with clapping? These refs just vie for the air time. Why in the heck do they always have to be the center of attention? What a bunch of losers.

Dumars4Ever
05-02-2007, 12:55 AM
I definitely don't think the Warriors are in a world of hurt. Dallas can get some confidence from the big run to win the game, but they also have to deal with blowing a 21 point lead at home.

mikhail1973
05-02-2007, 01:48 AM
I definitely don't think the Warriors are in a world of hurt. Dallas can get some confidence from the big run to win the game, but they also have to deal with blowing a 21 point lead at home.
I didn't say they are. I said they may be. I still think their chances are pretty good to win this series, but it will be much tougher now. You don't want to give a good team extra chances.

TaShawn
05-02-2007, 01:49 AM
What a moronic end to the game for the Warriors. It was like they had no coach.

They are up by 9 and scoring at will, and they start trying to protect the lead by having 1 guy dribble out the shot clock. When it was time to make a move, that guy threw up a horrendous shot. The Mavs come down and nobody thinks to guard Dirk? Oops, 3-pointer.

Then, that exact situation gets repeated again. Dribble out clock. Shoot horrible, forced shot. Watch Dirk hit another 3.

Ok, so they are still up. Hey, we're up 3, let's dribble out the clock again and shoot the worst shot imaginable. Miss. Dallas comes down, drives and gets the and 1... but misses the FT!

What a lucky break. Now, GS needs to get some points after 3 or 4 straight chucks. What do they do? They shoot another bad 3 pointer and miss horribly.

Then it got worse from there.

For someone who enjoys end-game strategy like me, this was torture.

Then Stephen Jackson is blowing a gasket and failing to leave the floor when ejected, and Nelly doesn't even try to calm him down. Dude, you can't let a key player get suspended when you are about to pull off one of the greatest upsets ever.

I still think Dallas has this one.

CloudWalker
05-02-2007, 07:37 AM
The good part about this is, I get to see another one of these games this week, from Oakland!

I don't think the Mavs can win 3 straight.

They only need two in a row now. :)

I believe they can pull this out. That January championship has to at least earn them a trip to the second round.:cold:

TwYcH
05-03-2007, 03:10 PM
Darn game starting at 10:30 EST. (I am on the east coast).


I want to watch!

The Low
05-03-2007, 11:12 PM
Marv Albert just called a 3 hit by Johnny Stackhouse.

Dumars4Ever
05-03-2007, 11:12 PM
Heh, I missed that he said that...Johnny Stack is keeping them in with all these triples.

Dumars4Ever
05-03-2007, 11:15 PM
Baron to the locker room? Not a good sign for the Warriors.

The Low
05-03-2007, 11:16 PM
Heh, I missed that he said that...Johnny Stack is keeping them in with all these triples.

Too bad he's not in Det anymore...nothing would be funnier than watching him have to be called Johnny by Sheed every game.

roscoe36
05-03-2007, 11:20 PM
My quality of life would be compromised if CHOKEHOUSE was back in the D.

Dumars4Ever
05-03-2007, 11:23 PM
TNT says that Baron has a slight hamstring injury. They're playing well now even without him, but I don't think that can last. They're going to have a lot of trouble if he can't put up big numbers.

detteam
05-03-2007, 11:25 PM
The Mavs losin would bust my bracket all to hell, but I secretly hope it happens. :sssh:

The Low
05-03-2007, 11:26 PM
Yeah, but Baron is walking so slap an Icy-Hot Backside Patch on that sucka and release the hounds.

This game is exactly why run and gun teams bug me so much...how many 100's of 3s does Johnny have to hit from the corner before GS finds a player they can allocate to defend him at some point while he sets up his camping gear on the sideline?

ahb
05-03-2007, 11:27 PM
Keeping every Mav but Stack out of rhythm with this terrible 3-2 zone may help come the 4th quarter.

Monta Ellis playing well is a good sign; they'll need to play a 2-point guard front if Dallas tries trapping Baron again.

And Mark Cuban's referee of the night, sponsored by Mark Cuban is... Mark Wunderlich.

The Low
05-03-2007, 11:28 PM
Hey 'scoe...do I get a boobie prize when I hit 1000 posts?