Old Ricky Carlisle was released today by the Indiana Pacers.

Larry Bird is somewhere crying his eyes out.

Old Ricky Carlisle was released today by the Indiana Pacers.

Larry Bird is somewhere crying his eyes out.

Seattle, here we come! The primary rumours coming out of there that he's their guy if Indiana cuts him. Seattle is nice.

Also, I wonder if Larry's next if they don't turn it around.

They really expected him to be able to manage Artest, Jackson, and crew? The Pacers collapse is now complete.

They really expected him to be able to manage Artest, Jackson, and crew? The Pacers collapse is now complete.

I agree.

I know there is no chance Davidson wants him back, so I won't even go there.

I wonder if Rick is going to get up at the firing Press Conference with Larry Bird like he did with Joe Dumars. That would be a nice awkward moment.

Pacers fire coach Carlisle after 4 tumultuous seasons - NBA - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Ag79UJYqDoendRIND8moXNg5nYcB?slug=ap-pacers-carlisle&prov=ap&type=lgns)

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Here is Carlisle trying to manage all the egos he's coached.

So, does RC stand for Released Coach, now?

It makes me happy hearing he got canned. Yet Larry Bird is really the biggest part of the problem. The trade concocted with Golden State was about the worst possible. Dunleavy can't defend his own shadow, and Murphy only once was a good player, and is not anymore. On the other side, although volatile, Jackson has serious talent, and Al Harrington, faults and all, is still a very tough inside player. (No, I don't want to get into discussing it, but this trade has all the earmarks of being a race based one.)

Carlisle can still do someone a good job as a coach, but it will have to be paired with a GM who is both strong handed (as Bird was), and has some common sense. (Which Bird lacks.) You can't let Carlisle play who he wants to play. If he is doing something stupid, you got to step in and remind him who is the boss. After being told who he must play, Carlisle is pretty darn good at getting the most out of the players. He gets their best defensive effort, plus he is good at figuring out how to maximize each player by using sensible units where each player compliments the others. And while not that great at in-game adjustments, he is very good at game to game adjustments, a good skill for a playoff series.

Indiana will regret this decision.

This firing might be the best thing that ever happened to Carlisle. His ability to maximize limited talent is well-documented, and he's better than the usual retread. I can see a lot of teams going after him.

Now Bird is the last "Malice at the Palace" domino waiting to fall.

(No, I don't want to get into discussing it, but this trade has all the earmarks of being a race based one.)


Good luck finding a coach whiter than Cola!

Good luck finding a coach whiter than Cola!

I think we could find a whiter guy if he was the uncola.

Ok, it's an old commercial, but hopefully some of you got it.

Uncola sounds like a mafioso name for a family member.

Uncola sounds like a mafioso name for a family member.


:pound:No...No...NO!

Not like Uncola Guido.

I mean like Cola nut...Uncola nut...can you choose wisely Grasshopper?

Good luck finding a coach whiter than Cola!

Oh, he meant the trade. I thought he meant the firing of Rick.


I am going to state for the record that I don't believe race had anything to do with the firing of Rick Carlisle.

ESPN has a helpful overview (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2710588) of all the coaching vacancies here. I expect Carlisle to have a new job soon, maybe even before the draft. How about Sacramento? :stirthepot:

Also, the Grizzlies just got permission to talk to this guy.
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White-on-white termination is surprisingly widespread, particularly in the corporate world. It is America's secret shame.

Never much of a Carlisle backer... but honesetly Bird & Walsh should fire themselves before RC... they are the biggest culprits... they obviously didn't do background checks on these characters... then they try to solve it by having a fire sale... and they gave up a pick to boot.
Then there's the crazy amount of injuries that left RC with just better than D-League talent.
That being said Carlisle needs to go to offense 101.

White-on-white termination is surprisingly widespread, particularly in the corporate world. It is America's secret shame.


:pound::pound::pound::pound:

On the radio they said it was a mutual decision. So perhaps RC was the one that wanted out. Can't blame him.

I would like to have him back but its never going to happen since Davison does not like him for some mysterious reason.

Any any rate, he will get some offers from other teams.

As Lee mentioned there might very well have been a racial element involved in the trade (Although I'm not sure Junior knows he is white) but the botom line is that RC was dealt a poor hand. I thought he got the most out of what he had.

On time with the pics TaS.
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"(No, I don't want to get into discussing it, but this trade has all the earmarks of being a race based one.)"
You can be honest with me Lee. But don't do that "I can't say but, BS". I want to see the whole world!
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Nier, that remark was very unAryan of you.

I think a team like the Bucks could benefit from RC's defensive mindset.
Certainly the Sonics are also in need of a defense 1st coach.
It would be intersting to see RC take on a team that is loaded with scorers... I mean could he stop Ray Allen & Lewis from putting up numbers?

Can Stiles for Carlisle. Better Defense and BBeen wouldn't mind. I'd give him another 2 year run. And so would the LOW.

Rick was the only constant on the team. He managed with little and now he gets kicked to the curb.

Are you laughing inside DM?

Old Ricky Carlisle was released today by the Indiana Pacers.

Larry Bird is somewhere crying his eyes out.
More like wiping sweat off his forehead that he isnt canned too.:pound:

I'm seeing Carlisle in Seattle. It would be the best fit for him. Team with a couple years grace during a transitional period, and plenty of young talent to play around with.

I'm seeing Carlisle in Seattle. It would be the best fit for him. Team with a couple years grace during a transitional period, and plenty of young talent to play around with.


This is from today's Seattle Post.

Shake-up at the top for Sonics (http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/basketball/312910_sonx25.html)





POSSIBLE SUCCESSORS

RICK CARLISLE

Why him? A former NBA player and Sonics broadcaster, the Pacers coach is regarded as a rising star, though his firing after four seasons in Indiana seems imminent. Carlisle, 47, was a big winner in his first head coaching job (100-64 in two seasons with the Pistons).

The Sonics seem very interested in a defense first type of coach. If Rick could lead these guys to a 50 win season, he would be a hero in Seattle. Or Oklahoma.

I agree.

I know there is no chance Davidson wants him back, so I won't even go there.

Ahhh man I would take that guy back in a heartbeat. R cola is a great coach and is somewhat overrated. I would love to have him back but I think we all know that is almost impossible.

Sorry I meant underrated, a lil tired right now. Lmao

RC will get hired. Isiah will bring him in. They'll form the "Bird do do" club. Let Isiah be the Prez, and RC can coach...............He'd get 50 wins next year out of that bunch...............

Wow i guess time has run out for carslile i thought indie was a great fit for him

Cola would probably try and punk Zeke like LB did. Do any of these coaches have an ounce of honor?

Carlisle was a good coach- he's not shy to play the players he has. But somehow I still wonder what made him play Curry in front of Prince for an entire season.

Apparently Sam Mitchell (COY, Toronto) is the leading candidate for the Pacers job.

It makes sense. Sam is a former Pacer and he does the whole touchy feely team bonding thing, so maybe he can make a nice middle of the road team in Indy. :)

Does that mean Sam is fired or is he quitting?

If he is fired, is there any other coach in NBA history that has the same fate as Sam after being named COY?

Sam is a free agent on July 1st. His contract is expiring.

Apparently Sam Mitchell (COY, Toronto) is the leading candidate for the Pacers job.

It makes sense. Sam is a former Pacer and he does the whole touchy feely team bonding thing, so maybe he can make a nice middle of the road team in Indy. :)

Man I hope he gets the job. I really don't care for the Pacers at all, but the thought of their next coach being Chuck Connors Person made me kind of sad for them.