RealGM is reporting that Earl Boykins will opt out of the last year of his deal in Milwaukee, leaving them with no experienced PGs who are not free agents.

Boykins option year was worth approx. $3 million. He must believe that this is the time to secure a new long term deal.

RealGM: Wiretap Archives: Boykins Opts For Free Agency (http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/46610/20070620/boykins_opts_for_free_agency/)

I like Boykins. He's the fastest player on NBA Live for PS2. :MusicBigGrin:

I like Boykins. He's the fastest player on NBA Live for PS2. :MusicBigGrin:

Unfortunately, you don`t have PS3...............:MusicBigGrin:

Unfortunately, you don`t have PS3...............:MusicBigGrin:
Yeah, that'll probably be next year.

I'm finishing my basement right now, so everything is kind of all over the place. I had to move my big screen tv into the living room (Which my wife wasn't too happy about at first. She wanted to spray paint it black to blend in to the decor better. Yeah, um... how about no.) and I don't even have my PS2 hooked up right now. Ever since my daughter was born, I haven't had much down time to play any EA sports. Madden is my favourite.

The big tv doesn't really bother her in the living room anymore (I bought a nice dark wood unit to help it blend in a bit better. A.K.A. appease the wife), so once the basement is finished, I want to get a new 50" plasma for down there and a PS3.

The big tv doesn't really bother her in the living room anymore (I bought a nice dark wood unit to help it blend in a bit better. A.K.A. appease the wife), so once the basement is finished, I want to get a new 50" plasma for down there and a PS3.

Message from wife ......Yeah, um... how about NO !

A.K.A. wife putting foot down. :yellowprison:

Message from wife ......Yeah, um... how about NO !

A.K.A. wife putting foot down. :yellowprison:

She's actually fine with it. Or should I say, she's tired of being not fine with it.

See, I have a strategy anytime I want to make a large purchase. I start hinting about it for months (or sometimes years, depending on the size, price and degree of resistance of the item) before I actually want to get it. So when the time comes that I actually do want it, she's so completely tired of saying no that she just gives up! :cheerlie-GOAL:

See, unlike the Pistons organization, I like to plan for the future.:stirthepot:

KG to Phoenix???

ESPN - Agent: Garnett not interested in being a Celtic - NBA (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2912075)

She's actually fine with it. Or should I say, she's tired of being not fine with it.

See, I have a strategy anytime I want to make a large purchase. I start hinting about it for months (or sometimes years, depending on the size, price and degree of resistance of the item) before I actually want to get it. So when the time comes that I actually do want it, she's so completely tired of saying no that she just gives up! :cheerlie-GOAL:

See, unlike the Pistons organization, I like to plan for the future.:stirthepot:



Guys who do this have been married a LOOng time.
They also have nothing to barter with.......:)
In my marriage, I'd just buy the Plasma. The problem would be to get her to part with some of her money to help pay for it. We make the same salary so financially, we just meet monthly to pay common bills. If either of us wants something, we just buy it........

RealGM: Wiretap Archives: Wolves And Suns Have Talked Trade (http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/46634/20070621/wolves_and_suns_have_talked_trade/)

Report: Suns trade James Jones to Blazers | EastValleyTribune.com (http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/92451)

Suns will ship forward James Jones to the Blazers – a deal that will net Phoenix future considerations.

Jones has one guaranteed year left on a contract that pays him $2.9 million and a player option of $3.15 million for the 2008-09 season. With the Suns over the threshold, that $3 million would have been subject to the NBA’s dollar-for-dollar luxury tax penalty.

Jones averaged 6.7 points in 76 games last season (seven starts), shooting a disappointing 36.8 percent from the field. He started six of Phoenix’s 11 playoff games, playing 15.5 minutes per game and averaging 5.0 points and 1.4 rebounds.

I believe that everyone already knows about these, but just to recap:
The Blazers sent Zach Randolph, Fred Jones and Dan Dickau to the New York Knicks for Channing Frye and Steve Francis. And the Sonics traded Ray Allen to the Boston Celtics for Delonte West, Wally Szczerbiak and the rights to the No. 5 pick, Jeff Green.

Here's a recap of yesterday's deal activity:

http://pics.forecaster.ca/std/arrowright_red.gif PRINTEZIS TO TORONTO
The Toronto Raptors acquired forward Giorgos Printezis from the San Antonio Spurs for a second-round draft pick in 2008. [see detail] (http://www.forecaster.ca/thestar.com/basketball/tradelog-viewtrade.cgi?2007&x_id=928)
http://pics.forecaster.ca/std/arrowright_red.gif PORTLAND LAND KOPONEN
The Portland Trail Blazers acquired guard Petteri Koponen from the Philadelphia 76ers for guard Derrick Byars and cash considerations. [see detail] (http://www.forecaster.ca/thestar.com/basketball/tradelog-viewtrade.cgi?2007&x_id=927)
http://pics.forecaster.ca/std/arrowright_red.gif MAVERICKS, MAGIC SWITCH SECOND-ROUND PICKS
The Orlando Magic acquired forward Milovan Rakovic and cash considerations to the Dallas Mavericks for forward Reyshawn Terry. [see detail] (http://www.forecaster.ca/thestar.com/basketball/tradelog-viewtrade.cgi?2007&x_id=925)
http://pics.forecaster.ca/std/arrowright_red.gif PACERS DEAL FOR ROOKIE BARAC
The Indiana Pacers acquired center Stanko Barac from the Miami Heat for a second-round draft pick in 2009. [see detail] (http://www.forecaster.ca/thestar.com/basketball/tradelog-viewtrade.cgi?2007&x_id=924)
http://pics.forecaster.ca/std/arrowright_red.gif SIXERS, HEAT SWITCH FIRST-ROUND PICKS
The Philadelphia 76ers acquired forward Jason Smith from the Miami Heat for guard Daequan Cook, a second-round draft pick in 2009 and cash considerations. [see detail] (http://www.forecaster.ca/thestar.com/basketball/tradelog-viewtrade.cgi?2007&x_id=923)
http://pics.forecaster.ca/std/arrowright_red.gif CATS LAND RICHARDSON
The Charlotte Bobcats acquired forward Jason Richardson and forward Jermareo Davidson from the Golden State Warriors for forward Brandan Wright. [see detail] (http://www.forecaster.ca/thestar.com/basketball/tradelog-viewtrade.cgi?2007&x_id=922)
http://pics.forecaster.ca/std/arrowright_red.gif SUNS TRADE FIRST-ROUNDER
The Portland Trail Blazers acquired guard Rudy Fernandez from the Phoenix Suns for cash considerations. [see detail] (http://www.forecaster.ca/thestar.com/basketball/tradelog-viewtrade.cgi?2007&x_id=921)
http://pics.forecaster.ca/std/arrowright_red.gif KNICKS, BLAZERS TRADE SIX!
The New York Knicks acquired forward Zach Randolph, guard Dan Dickau, guard Fred Jones and forward Demetris Nichols from the Portland Trail Blazers for forward Channing Frye, guard Steve Francis and a second-round draft pick in 2008. [see detail] (http://www.forecaster.ca/thestar.com/basketball/tradelog-viewtrade.cgi?2007&x_id=920)
http://pics.forecaster.ca/std/arrowright_red.gif RAY ALLEN HEADS TO BOSTON
The Boston Celtics acquired guard Ray Allen, forward Glen Davis and a second-round pick in the 2007 draft from the Seattle SuperSonics for forward Wally Szczerbiak, guard Delonte West and forward Jeff Green. [see detail] (http://www.forecaster.ca/thestar.com/basketball/tradelog-viewtrade.cgi?2007&x_id=919)

Here's a recap of yesterday's deal activity:

Many I wish the Stones would have got Terry to back up Tay. :(

I thought Channing Fry was untouchable. I guess he wasn't.

The NBA's Charlotte Bobcats waived veteran Brevin Knight today, leaving them without a backup point guard.
Knight was scheduled to make just over four million dollars next season but had a buyout clause in his contract for 1.5 million.
Knight started in the team's inaugural season in 2004-2005. But 2005 first-round draft pick Raymond Felton eventually replaced Knight in the starting lineup.
Now, the Bobcats likely will need to sign another point guard to back up Felton, who averaged 14 points and seven assists last season.
The 31-year-old Knight averaged 9.1 points and 6.6 assists last season when he was limited to 45 games.

So after we sign Billups:pray: do we go after Knight, Boykins or train one of those draft picks to be the main backup

ksl.com - Jazz Obtain Draft Rights To Fesenko (http://www.ksl.com/?nid=294&sid=1415721)


SALT LAKE CITY - Utah Jazz senior vice president of basketball operations, Kevin O'Connor, announced today that the team has acquired the draft rights to Kyrylo Fesenko (38th overall pick in the 2007 NBA Draft) from the Philadelphia 76ers in exchange for the draft rights to Herbert Hill (55th overall pick) and trade considerations.
A native of the Ukraine, Fesenko (7-0, 235 lbs.) averaged 6.7 points, 6.2 rebounds and 1.6 blocked shots in 18.5 minutes a contest for Cherkaski Mavpi of the Ukrainian SuperLeague. Fesenko scored in double figures seven times, posting a season high of 17 points. In six games at the FIBA EuroCup Challenge, Fesenko averaged 7.2 points, 8.0 rebounds and 2.0 blocked shots in 18.7 minutes. A member of the Ukranian National Team, Fesenko averaged 6.8 points, 6.9 rebounds and 2.0 blocked shots at the 2005 U20 European Championships in Moscow. In 2004, the seven-footer averaged 12.0 points, 6.6 rebounds and 2.6 blocked shots at the U18 European Championships in Zaragoza, Spain

Magic make tender offers to Darko Milicic, Travis Diener, Mario Kasun -- OrlandoSentinel.com (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/orl-magicfa2907jun29,0,1430269.story)

The Orlando Magic on Friday tendered qualifying offers to power forward/center Darko Milicic, point guard Travis Diener, and center Mario Kasun, the team announced.

The move makes those players restricted free agents, giving the Magic the right of first refusal on re-signing them if they are offered contracts by other teams.

Milicic (7 feet, 250 pounds) averaged 8 points, 5.5 rebounds., 1.75 block and 1.1 assists per game in 80 games this past season.

Darko's QO was around $6.8 million. This is merely pre-FA protocol.

So after we sign Billups:pray: do we go after Knight, Boykins or train one of those draft picks to be the main backup

No, I think for once the young guys should be the first backups (Stuckey, Afflalo, Amir, J Max, and one older guy Dice)

Riley mum on status: South Florida Sun-Sentinel (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/basketball/heat/sfl-flspriley30nbjun30,0,4547702.story?coll=sfla-sports-heat)
While Pat Riley declined Friday to commit to coaching the Heat next season, he said he expects Alonzo Mourning to return, anticipates losing either Jason Kapono or James Posey or both in free agency, and will wait until later in the offseason to decide about bringing back veteran guard Eddie Jones.

Speaking at length for the first time since his team was swept out of the first round of the playoffs by the Bulls in April, Riley touched on several unresolved issues as his team approaches Sunday's start of free agency.

Memphis Commercial Appeal - Memphis' Source for News and Information: Grizzlies (http://www.commercialappeal.com/mca/grizzlies/article/0,1426,MCA_475_5611008,00.html)
We're going after a significant big man," Griz owner Michael Heisley said Friday while helping to introduce Conley. "We understand the target, and we'll see if we can get the player." The Griz are expected to pursue Cleveland's Anderson Varejao, a young, energetic forward who is a restricted free agent, while considering options such as San Antonio's Fabricio Oberto, New Jersey's Mikki Moore and Orlando's Darko Milicic.

Yi’s agents seek trade from Bucks - NBA - MSNBC.com (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19534023/)

Yi Jianlian’s (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19534023/#) representatives are still working to prevent him starting his NBA career in Milwaukee after the Bucks drafted him sixth overall in New York on Thursday.Yi did not travel to Milwaukee for the customary post-draft introduction, saying he needed to head to Dallas to join the Chinese national team, but behind the scenes his agents are seeking a trade away from the Bucks.


What a gigantic a-hole. The guy hasn't even played an NBA game and he's already trying to pick and choose.

Suns may have to battle for Hill (http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0630suns0701.html)

The Suns were expected to reach out to forward Grant Hill late Saturday when the NBA free-agency contact period opened.

Phoenix planned to contact Hill and his agent, Lon Babby, to set up a meeting with the 34-year-old veteran, who is the Suns' free-agency priority.

League sources said the belief is that Hill favors Phoenix, but ESPN reported that the Detroit Pistons are the favorite.

Others wonder if he would leave Orlando. Hill could feel he owes the Magic after making $92 million over seven injury-riddled years.

With the Suns facing the NBA's second-highest 2008 luxury tax (about $7 million), they will offer a veteran's minimum salary of $1.2 million but can offer a shot at a title, a system that fits his versatility and non-taxing practices for his ankle issues.

Non-Taxing practices? Ron Harper is gone. We don't even have left handed 3 point shootouts anymore!

The Newark Star Ledger is reporting that Carter, who opted out of the final year of his contract which called for a $16.3 million salary next season, has agreed to a four-year, $61.8 million contract with the Nets. The contract with the team holds an option for a fifth year.
link: ESPN - Report: Carter agrees to 4-year contract with Nets - NBA (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2922561)

Kapono agrees to four-year, $24 million deal with Raptors


ESPN - Kapono reaches agreement to sign with Raptors - NBA (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2922597)

:hoops:

I am not a "capolgist" as some on the forum are, however, I bet Riley has his eye on one Rashard Lewis to add to his frontcourt, if at all possible.

Not possible without a S&T. The Heat are carrying a lot of salary.

Kapono, for $6 million a year?

That's scary. He's helping establish the market early and that's too much money IMO.

Kapono, for $6 million a year?

That's scary. He's helping establish the market early and that's too much money IMO.


For sure. All he did was win the 3pt shootout. I don't see how he is any better than mo pete, and they didn't even play the guy.

Well, looks like it's not a lock that Delfino will start. Not with Kapono and Anthony Parker on MLE deals.

Luke Walton (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3735) reached agreement Sunday with the Los Angeles Lakers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=lal) on a six-year, $30 million contract after general manager Mitch Kupchak placed a call one minute after midnight to express the team's interest in retaining its best unrestricted free agent.
link: ESPN - Lakers, Walton agree to six-year, $30 million deal - NBA (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2922663)

Mavs target free-agent Wallace | Dallas Morning News | News for Dallas, Texas | SportsDay: Basketball: Mavericks (http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/basketball/mavs/stories/070207dnspomavslede.2b09eab.html)

The Mavericks were among the first half-dozen teams to inquire about free-agent swingman Gerald Wallace, but it will be a long, difficult journey to acquire him.
It's also possible that other free-agent targets will be more obtainable.
Still, Wallace is near or at the top of the Mavs' wish list, even though acquiring him will take much more than the mid-level exception, expected to be between $5.8 million and $6 million.
Wallace, who averaged 18.1 points and 7.2 rebounds for Charlotte last season, is considered one of the top three free agents left on the board, along with Seattle's Rashard Lewis and Detroit's Chauncey Billups. He will command as much as $10 million annually, which means the Mavericks would have to work a sign-and-trade deal with the Bobcats.

Luke Walton (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3735) reached agreement Sunday with the Los Angeles Lakers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=lal) on a six-year, $30 million contract after general manager Mitch Kupchak placed a call one minute after midnight to express the team's interest in retaining its best unrestricted free agent.
link: ESPN - Lakers, Walton agree to six-year, $30 million deal - NBA (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2922663)

I didn't really think Walton would be going anywhere. That is an extremely affordable offer in today's marketplace, IMO. Only $5 million a season on average for a guy that brings a lot of different things to the table.

I didn't really think Walton would be going anywhere. That is an extremely affordable offer in today's marketplace, IMO. Only $5 million a season on average for a guy that brings a lot of different things to the table.

Couldn't bear to leave the galaxy of Kobe............

Salt Lake Tribune - NBA: Jazz target Toronto's Morris Peterson (http://www.sltrib.com/jazz/ci_6280028)
The Jazz reached out to Toronto's Morris Peterson in the opening minutes of the free-agent negotiating period Saturday night, and Peterson is said to have Utah first on his list of preferred destinations, a source said Sunday.
Peterson would fill the Jazz's needs for a three-point shooter and perimeter defender, though he also would add to the team's congestion of players at the shooting guard and small forward positions.
Peterson, who turns 30 on Aug. 26, played seven seasons with the Raptors and was a full-time starter until this season. He would come to the Jazz with the intention of starting at shooting guard, a job held by four different players this season.

Looks like Lewis and Orlando have agreed to a deal while they let Darko become an unrestricted free agent

RealGM: Wiretap NBA News (http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap/)


Orlando television station WKMG Local 6 is reporting that Rashard Lewis (http://www.realgm.com/src_playerfile/198/rashard_lewis/) has agreed to sign with the Orlando Magic (http://magic.realgm.com/) on July 11.

The deal is reported for 5 years and $75 million.

Sports anchor David Pingalore also reported the Magic (http://magic.realgm.com/) will allow restricted free agent forward Darko Milicic (http://www.realgm.com/src_playerfile/830/darko_milicic/) to become an unrestricted free agent.

Uh-Oh! Darko's been dissed! :eek: :ouch: :Cry:

Why would they break up the mighty twin towers? :noidea:
:sweeping:

I'm sure there's a logical explanation for this dasterdly deed! :skull:

They needed to replace Grant Hill? :)

Wow.

The reputed 5 year 75M contract offered to Lewis from Orlando could cause huge ripples in Detroit. C-note can logically demand a far larger deal than whats been proposed to be on the table. If that happens and Detroit ups the ante, don't look for Amir to be seen in a Pistons jersey.

At what price does C-note become part of a sign-n-trade deal? I don't think he'd leave Detroit high and dry the way Wallace did a year ago, but I do think he's gonna want something far closer to the Rashard deal which is essentially 50% more than whats on the table now.

I like C-note, but not enough to see him inked to a deal that looks like the reputed Rashard deal. Too great a cost long-term. Deciding to keep C-note in a Pistons uniform may require seriously off-loading the contracts of at least 2 core players. Should that happen, we have passed over the point of critical mass and will officially be in the rebuilding mode.

Can you say, hello 2003..

Here a story that Zeke is persuing Ron Artest from Sacramento. Artest would give the Knicks a very formitable starting line-up.

DEAL MAY OPEN DOOR FOR ISIAH TO MAKE A RUN AT ARTEST | By MARC BERMAN | New York Knicks (http://www.nypost.com/seven/07032007/sports/knicks/deal_may_open_door_for_isiah_to_make_a_run_at_arte st_knicks_marc_berman.htm)

Here a story that Zeke is persuing Ron Artest from Sacramento. Artest would give the Knicks a very formitable starting line-up.

DEAL MAY OPEN DOOR FOR ISIAH TO MAKE A RUN AT ARTEST | By MARC BERMAN | New York Knicks (http://www.nypost.com/seven/07032007/sports/knicks/deal_may_open_door_for_isiah_to_make_a_run_at_arte st_knicks_marc_berman.htm)

"Armed with two new trade pawns in the expiring contracts of Dan Dickau and Fred Jones, ...and a new edict that character no longer matters...."

"Thomas had stayed clear of his former player because of his list of violent transgressions that soured owner James Dolan. With the acquisition of troubled Zach Randolph, the character issue is dead."

Sometimes the Post can be pretty funny.

Bloggers at SuperSonicSoul are reporting a rumor that the Sonics are working a deal to trade Chris Wilcox and Luke Ridnour to Detroit for Richard Hamilton.

Not sure if there is much behind it, but they were on top of the Rashard Lewis to Orlando deal.

Supersonicsoul: The unofficial blog of the Seattle Supersonics and nattering nabobs of negativity. (http://www.supersonicsoul.com/)

Wow, that Ridnour move seems odd.

How does a $6 million dollar PG fit into our plans?

Wow, that Ridnour move seems odd.

How does a $6 million dollar PG fit into our plans?

I can't really see how this trade makes sense for Detroit... unless there is a huge shake up on the way.

Nice report linwood.

That is interesting.

there's no way that deal has ever been considered by anyone in detroit.

there's no way that deal has ever been considered by anyone in detroit.

I dunno Warthog.

I pulled a quick glance at Wilcox's stats, and he put up some decent single game numbers last year. 30+ points 20+ board stuff.

Perhaps Joe thinks he is about to break out or something. Gives us that Center we've been looking for.

Albeit another 6'10" power forward type center....but, hey. :pound:

NBA.com : Chris Wilcox Info Page (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/chris_wilcox/game_by_game_stats.html)

Wow, check his game by game stats out.

First thing that shows up is he isn't consistent, but neither are his minutes, which sounds familiar to me.

Second thing that shows up....wow.

This kid really puts up good games scratch that, GREAT games.
If he could get it together he could be a 20 and 10 guy in this league, and I'm talking easy with about 5 s's.

If the trade actually did go down it may actually have a chance of turning in Detroit's favor.

Joe pulling of this type of deal is like going to "Odd Lots" for your living room furniture.........................

Durant is their PF. They are going to give Robert Swift a run at center because he's pretty darn good.

This makes sense from both sides. Except Ridnour, in which case Billups is probably gone.

Durant is their PF. They are going to give Robert Swift a run at center because he's pretty darn good.

This makes sense from both sides. Except Ridnour, in which case Billups is probably gone.

Assuming Joe gets Amir for 3 mil or less.

How would letting Chauncey walk for nada help to position us for next years free agent run?

Gilbert Arenas help us? Elton Brand help us?

NBA.com : Chris Wilcox Info Page (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/chris_wilcox/game_by_game_stats.html)

Wow, check his game by game stats out.

First thing that shows up is he isn't consistent, but neither are his minutes, which sounds familiar to me.

Second thing that shows up....wow.

This kid really puts up good games scratch that, GREAT games.
If he could get it together he could be a 20 and 10 guy in this league, and I'm talking easy with about 5 s's.

If the trade actually did go down it may actually have a chance of turning in Detroit's favor.

yeah thats the thing about wilcox. inconsistent is his middle name. he will have a 20-13 night then disappear for 2 games. trust me, he was on my fantasy team!
just another one of those players that you think is gonna break out at any time but never does.

no way i'd do this deal.

yeah thats the thing about wilcox. inconsistent is his middle name. he will have a 20-13 night then disappear for 2 games. trust me, he was on my fantasy team!
just another one of those players that you think is gonna break out at any time but never does.

no way i'd do this deal.


I smell a grudge. :)

There's always a possibility he'll finally breakout. He's only 24 years old.

Odds are he breaks out the minute you trade him to another fantasy team. :)

If he becomes a Piston please do that for us webz.

I smell a grudge. :)

There's always a possibility he'll finally breakout. He's only 24 years old.

Odds are he breaks out the minute you trade him to another fantasy team. :)

If he becomes a Piston please do that for us webz.

The fantasy season is over, and I did trade him actually. Didn't help...

Grant Hill is a Sun:
Grant Hill has decided to sign with the Phoenix Suns to hopefully hitch a ride to an NBA title, leaving the Orlando Magic after seven injury-racked, mostly unfulfilled seasons.
He will sign with the Suns for the $1.2 million veteran's exception, which is all Phoenix was willing to offer.
link: Grant Hill leaving Orlando Magic for Suns -- OrlandoSentinel.com (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/basketball/magic/orl-bk-ghill070507,0,3073523.story?track=rss)

Grant Hill is a Sun:
Grant Hill has decided to sign with the Phoenix Suns to hopefully hitch a ride to an NBA title, leaving the Orlando Magic after seven injury-racked, mostly unfulfilled seasons.
He will sign with the Suns for the $1.2 million veteran's exception, which is all Phoenix was willing to offer.
link: Grant Hill leaving Orlando Magic for Suns -- OrlandoSentinel.com (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/basketball/magic/orl-bk-ghill070507,0,3073523.story?track=rss)


For that kind of money, I guess Grant didn't see "ship" in the Piston's future.

1.2 million? Isn't that about what he made per game for the Magic??

Durant is their PF. They are going to give Robert Swift a run at center because he's pretty darn good.

This makes sense from both sides. Except Ridnour, in which case Billups is probably gone.

That should be very interesting considering that Durant can't even press 185 lbs and avoiding contact at all costs on both offense and defense when he played in college.

:hoops:

yeah thats the thing about wilcox. inconsistent is his middle name. he will have a 20-13 night then disappear for 2 games. trust me, he was on my fantasy team!
just another one of those players that you think is gonna break out at any time but never does.

no way i'd do this deal.

I watched a lot of Sonics basketball this season. (you know, living in Seattle and all) I think alot of the inconsistency of Wilcox is directly related to the inconsistency of Ridnour and Watson, and also by their free-flowing offensive system. When Ray or Rashard would heat up, they would take most of the shots, leaving the other guys with some deflated numbers.

I think in a more disciplined offense, with a guard who can find him when he's open, Chris Wilcox is good for 17 and 10 every night.

If this trade happens, consider the Pistons team blown up, with 'Sheed on his way out too.

I watched a lot of Sonics basketball this season. (you know, living in Seattle and all) I think alot of the inconsistency of Wilcox is directly related to the inconsistency of Ridnour and Watson, and also by their free-flowing offensive system. When Ray or Rashard would heat up, they would take most of the shots, leaving the other guys with some deflated numbers.

I think in a more disciplined offense, with a guard who can find him when he's open, Chris Wilcox is good for 17 and 10 every night.

If this trade happens, consider the Pistons team blown up, with 'Sheed on his way out too.

I was waiting for you to pipe in on Wilcox, Linwood. I know you are a fan of his:)

Yeah, Ive always liked him. Unlike Webz, I was happy with him on my fantasy team and only traded him to you because I needed to do that in order to complete the package deal we made.

He was a bit inconsistent, but he had some really good games to make up for it. I dunno how that transfers to real life though.

I watched a lot of Sonics basketball this season. (you know, living in Seattle and all) I think alot of the inconsistency of Wilcox is directly related to the inconsistency of Ridnour and Watson, and also by their free-flowing offensive system. When Ray or Rashard would heat up, they would take most of the shots, leaving the other guys with some deflated numbers.

I think in a more disciplined offense, with a guard who can find him when he's open, Chris Wilcox is good for 17 and 10 every night.

If this trade happens, consider the Pistons team blown up, with 'Sheed on his way out too.

What kind of dude is Wilcox? I recall some scrapes with the law regarding gun possession in the past. Is he a professional or a knucklehead?

Well Wilcox would certainly fill the hole we have in the middle.

Ridnour made $2.4 last year
Wilcox made $6.3 last year

Total of $8.7

Rip made $9.1

So it seems like dollar wise it would work.

It would fill the center hole and give us an NBA point guard with proven experience and a pretty darn good career assists to turnover ratio and a pretty decent 3 point shot.

They are also both young. I like this trade.

:hoops:

That should be very interesting considering that Durant can't even press 185 lbs and avoiding contact at all costs on both offense and defense when he played in college.

:hoops:

I agree it will be interesting. If you think not being able to bench press 185 lbs. is going to bother this kid in the NBA you are going to be very surprised.

I wouldn't mind Wilcox in a Piston uniform, but not at the expense of Rip. Can't we throw them Davis, Dupree, Murray and 2012 second round draft pick for him and Rid?

I agree it will be interesting. If you think not being able to bench press 185 lbs. is going to bother this kid in the NBA you are going to be very surprised.

It bothered him in college so it will all the more so bother him in the NBA. Time of course will tell but I saw him play several times and was not impressed by him as far as a potential NBA player goes because the first thing I look for in a potential NBA player are defense and toughness, both of which he has neither of.

Let's see how this falls out before we get too carried away by differences of opinion.

I think that Durant will do very well on offense, because Stern and his group are already working overtime to make him the next young rising star over Oden. So I think he will get a lot of early on foul calls sending him to line a lot. After that NBA teams will play matador defense against him which allow will him to score, because he can definitely shoot the rock.

But on defense he is going to have a big problem unless he masters the flop. I actually like Horford more than I do Durant. Horford is one tough dude and can play defense.

:hoops:

Ridnour was in the last year of his rookie deal. This year he starts his extension at $6+ million.

Ridnour was in the last year of his rookie deal. This year he starts his extension at $6+ million.

what number is used for the cap if we do the trade during the summer?

Or maybe we throw Nazir in and make it about even salary wise and they get a big man to replace Wilcox. That makes sense to me.

Can we all imagine the following 5 Pistons on the court at the same time.

JMax , AJ, Wilcox, Ridnour and RS.

Boy, talking about going young and some pretty good talent there to boot.

:hoops:

It bothered him in college so it will all the more so bother him in the NBA. Time of course will tell but I saw him play several times and was not impressed by him as far as a potential NBA player goes because the first thing I look for in a potential NBA player are defense and toughness, both of which he has neither of.

Let's see how this falls out before we get too carried away by differences of opinion.

I think that Durant will do very well on offense, because Stern and his group are already working overtime to make him the next young rising star over Oden. So I think he will get a lot of early on foul calls sending him to line a lot. After that NBA teams will play matador defense against him which allow will him to score, because he can definitely shoot the rock.

But on defense he is going to have a big problem unless he masters the flop. I actually like Horford more than I do Durant. Horford is one tough dude and can play defense.

:hoops:

We will see what happens in the NBA.

The kid is 19 years old!!! He is not going to come into the league with all the skills needed to be a superstar. However, he will be pretty damn close.

Horford is 21 with three years of college and two NCAA Championships.

I wouldn`t be surprised if Durant actually plays some in the backcort with the Sonics. Playing tough inside, being physical, battling in the paint is not Durants game, and never will be.

Can we all imagine the following 5 Pistons on the court at the same time.

JMax , AJ, Wilcox, Ridnour and RS.

Boy, talking about going young and some pretty good talent there to boot.

:hoops:


Hopefully it wouldn`t be for very long time!!

We will see what happens in the NBA.

The kid is 19 years old!!! He is not going to come into the league with all the skills needed to be a superstar. However, he will be pretty damn close.

Horford is 21 with three years of college and two NCAA Championships.

I wouldn`t be surprised if Durant actually plays some in the backcort with the Sonics. Playing tough inside, being physical, battling in the paint is not Durants game, and never will be.

I agree. As a shooting guard, which he definitely could be he will shine. But as a PF, forget it.

:hoops:

@ Buddhafan, the new salary cap year starts as soon as the July Moratorium ends. I believe...

I wouldn't mind Wilcox in a Piston uniform, but not at the expense of Rip.

I feel the same way. Wilcox is a good player with potential to be great, but Hamilton is great right now.

I would compare Ridnour's game to Arroyo; both guys certainly have skills, but there is something missing from their game that keeps them from being starter quality point guards. I think it may be an inconsistent jump shot.

The only way I see this happening is if Chauncey walks and Trader Joe has something worked out for Sheed or Dice to bring back a two.

@ Buddhafan, the new salary cap year starts as soon as the July Moratorium ends. I believe...

Thanks.

:hoops:

J-Rich not to happy about becoming a Bobcat..................


Charlotte Observer | 07/05/2007 | Trade stunned and<br> steamed Richardson (http://www.charlotte.com/bobcats/story/185370.html)

Hopefully it wouldn`t be for very long time!!

You are a person of limited vision when it comes to Piston basketball.

:hoops:

You are a person of limited vision when it comes to Piston basketball.
How about,

You are a wonderful person whose opinion I respect but disagree with when it comes to Piston basketball.

You are a person of limited vision when it comes to Piston basketball.

:hoops:

Lol, I guess your vision is unlimited, as in future lottery picks!!!

That lineup is a good one if you are talking about rebuilding, If you are talking about competing next year, i`ts a lottery lineup, even in the east.

NBA veteran Jerry Stackhouse (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3005) and the Dallas Mavericks (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=dal) have agreed in principle to a three-year contract, according to the a published report.
The deal will be for more than the mid-level exception, which is expected to surpass $6 million, according to the Dallas Morning News.
link: ESPN - Report: Sixth man Stackhouse staying with Mavs - NBA (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2927301&campaign=rss&source=NBAHeadlines)

I wouldn`t be surprised if Durant actually plays some in the backcort with the Sonics. Playing tough inside, being physical, battling in the paint is not Durants game, and never will be.

You're talking about a guy that averaged more rebounds than Greg Oden right?

Are you telling me that the next level is going to get harder for Durant, but easier for Oden?

Fact is, Durant not benching 185 lbs is only indicative of the fact that he didn't train to bench 185 lbs like the majority of guys at the combine.

I would really love to know how many times Kevin Garnett's bony butt could have benched 185 lbs coming in.

Tay probably cannot bench 185. (sorry Tay, if I'm wrong). He doesn't go strong for rebounds in the NBA..........................

ESPN Radio is reporting that Andres Nocioni has come to terms with the Chicago Bulls.

Ok...this is just a rumor...I mean, I'm not sure it's going to happen...or exactly what is planned, but hey, I' m sure somebody knows::MusicBigGrin:



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Ok, seriously, what are our chances of landing Gerald Wallace?

The question is, how many realistic prospects out there for Joe to look at are better than Delfino?

May as well take Mo Pete off the list, as it appears Grant Hill stood us up at too late of an hour for joe to ask Peterson to the dance.

The question is, how many realistic prospects out there for Joe to look at are better than Delfino?

May as well take Mo Pete off the list, as it appears Grant Hill stood us up at too late of an hour for joe to ask Peterson to the dance.

If that's the case it is due to Joe's own stupidity.

"Fool me once shame on you...fool me twice shame on me"

Nocioni re-signs with the Bulls.

NBA Basketball News - Nocioni remains a Bull - sportsnet.ca (http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/article.jsp?content=20070706_181541_6088)

ESPN Radio is reporting that Andres Nocioni has come to terms with the Chicago Bulls.

Nocioni re-signs with the Bulls.

NBA Basketball News - Nocioni remains a Bull - sportsnet.ca (http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/article.jsp?content=20070706_181541_6088)


How about...

'Nocioni resigned to be playing with the Bulls and comes to terms with being a bench player.'

If that's the case it is due to Joe's own stupidity.

"Fool me once shame on you...fool me twice shame on me"
It doesn't look though as Joe is interested in Mo Pete or Ruben Patterson for that matter.

Blazers buy out Steve Francis (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/basketball/story/2007/07/11/blazers-francis-buyout.html)


Steve Francis's stay in Portland was a short one.
The veteran guard agreed Wednesday to accept a buyout of his contract with the Portland Trail Blazers, who acquired him in a draft-night deal with the New York Knicks.

The numbers I saw run in excess of $30 mil for $34 mil remaining on the contract.

Also on Wednesday, the first day following the NBA's moratorium on player movement, the Blazers and the Phoenix Suns completed a deal that sent James Jones and the draft rights to Spanish guard Rudy Fernandez to Portland in exchange for $3 million.
Fernandez was the 24th overall draft pick by the Suns.

Gerald Wallace (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3533), the Bobcats' top scorer from last season, is reportedly returning to join Jason Richardson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3515) in the new-look Charlotte attack.
The Charlotte Observer, citing an anonymous source, is reporting that Wallace and the Bobcats have agreed to a six-year, $57 million contract. The sixth year of the deal will be Wallace's option and he can earn as much as $2 million each season in bonuses.
The Bobcats had stiff competition to keep Wallace. Seven other teams contacted the free agent forward when the NBA free agency period began. Dallas, Orlando, Milwaukee, Detroit, Miami, Portland and Golden State all made inquiries

link: ESPN - Report: Bobcats keep Wallace with $57M contract - NBA (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2933311&campaign=rss&source=NBAHeadlines)

TSN : NBA - Canada's Sports Leader (http://www.tsn.ca/nba/news_story/?ID=213311&hubname)=


Raptors sign Baston to offer sheet

Toronto has signed the restricted free-agent forward and ex-Raptor to an offer sheet, the club announced Wednesday.
The Indiana Pacers now have seven days to match the offer. Financial terms were not released.
The six-foot-10, 230-pounder averaged 2.9 points and 1.6 rebounds in 47 games with Indiana last season. He also played in 16 games with the Raptors in 2002-03, averaging 2.6 points.

Some guy named Darko Milicic signed with Memphis.
ESPN - Darko days ahead: Milicic, Grizzlies agree on deal - NBA (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2933472)

Perfect deal for both sides. 3 years. If Darko really is a bust, Memphis is only on the hook for 3 years. If he isn't (correct me if I'm wrong Micro), but they gain his Bird rights and can match any offer, and Darko, can command a serious, perhaps max, payday on his 25th birthday.

You are 100% correct 16. A 3 year deal is guaranteed, so even if Darko gets traded, wherever he is playing when that deal ends, his team will have his Bird Rights, which gives him the opportunity for a very handsome payday.

Good deal for both sides. Not too little, not too much, not too long and not too short. Darko gets a chance to earn a big payday and Memphis is not risking as much.

Morris Peterson (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/players/3420) and the New Orleans Hornets (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/teams/hornets) agreed to terms on a four-year contract, a person with knowledge of the deal told The Associated Press on Friday. The person, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the contract has not been announced, said Peterson would sign the deal following a vacation.
link:SI.com - NBA - Peterson, Hornets agree to four-year deal - Friday July 13, 2007 4:06PM (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/basketball/nba/07/13/peterson.hornets.ap/index.html?eref=si_nba)

Morris Peterson (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/players/3420) and the New Orleans Hornets (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/teams/hornets) agreed to terms on a four-year contract, a person with knowledge of the deal told The Associated Press on Friday. The person, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the contract has not been announced, said Peterson would sign the deal following a vacation.
link:SI.com - NBA - Peterson, Hornets agree to four-year deal - Friday July 13, 2007 4:06PM (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/basketball/nba/07/13/peterson.hornets.ap/index.html?eref=si_nba)



I thought Mo said he wanted to play for a winner? I know the Hornets are on cusp of the 7th or 8th seed, but he would have been better going to one of the easern pretenders

I thought Mo said he wanted to play for a winner? I know the Hornets are on cusp of the 7th or 8th seed, but he would have been better going to one of the easern pretenders
Must be a really sweet deal. Gotta remember Mo has never seen a real pay day in the NBA, his last deal after his rookie cintract was only for $4mill per. Gotta think that N.O. offered the full MLE.

Too bad...I think Mo would've been a good fit here...the Pistons still need a scoring vet off the bench.

Rueben Patterson

LOL Patterson makes Artest look like the Dalai Lama. Do you REALLY think JoeD would seriously contemplate exposing his youth to that head case? :pound:

LOL Patterson makes Artest look like the Dalai Lama. Do you REALLY think JoeD would seriously contemplate exposing his youth to that head case? :pound:
Patterson had been clean for a few years now. But he's old. We need to get younger.

Patterson had been clean for a few years now. But he's old. We need to get younger.

He's only been "clean" because he's learned to dump the bodies after he's done.

No evidence.

Chucky Atkins moves on.. probably to fill in for Steve Blake who also skipped town and fled back to Portland

The Denver Post - Nuggets sign Chucky Atkins (http://www.denverpost.com/ci_6369103)

Rocky Mountain News - Denver and Colorado's reliable source for breaking news, sports and entertainment: Nuggets & NBA (http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/nba/article/0,2777,DRMN_23922_5628146,00.html)

Rueben has been cool for a while now. Rueb's biggest issue was the same as Bird's and Barkley's......they go to the bar after the game and put a few down and end up in trouble. By the time a cat turns 30 all of that plays out and you just want to go to work (the gym), go home, and be a professional basketball player.

As far as him being old, have you watched him the last 2 seasons?? He's been a stop gap in Denver and Milw. When both teams picked him up HE DELIVERED. He's tough, strong, rebounds, attacks the rim and defends. Give me Rueben or give me DEATH, but I'll settle for Matt Barnes.

Rueben has been cool for a while now. Rueb's biggest issue was the same as Bird's and Barkley's......they go to the bar after the game and put a few down and end up in trouble. By the time a cat turns 30 all of that plays out and you just want to go to work (the gym), go home, and be a professional basketball player.

As far as him being old, have you watched him the last 2 seasons?? He's been a stop gap in Denver and Milw. When both teams picked him up HE DELIVERED. He's tough, strong, rebounds, attacks the rim and defends. Give me Rueben or give me DEATH, but I'll settle for Matt Barnes.

Barnes hasn't gotten any offers so far. I know he's upset.

Unrestricted free agent DeShawn Stevenson (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/players/3422) and the Washington Wizards (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/teams/wizards) have agreed on a contract to keep the shooting guard with the club.
The team wouldn't disclose the terms of the deal, but it's reportedly worth $15 million over four years.
link:SI.com - NBA - Stevenson, Wizards agree to new $15M contract - Saturday July 14, 2007 10:41AM (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/basketball/nba/07/14/bc.bkn.wizards.stevenson.ap/index.html)

Former Trail Blazer Steve Blake (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/players/3741) is coming back to Portland, even though in one sense he never left. The free agent point guard who played for the Denver Nuggets (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/teams/nuggets) last season signed a reported two-year deal with an option. The Blazers, who confirmed his return late Friday, did not disclose terms.
link: SI.com - NBA - Blake signs with Oden's Blazers - Friday July 13, 2007 10:36PM (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/basketball/nba/07/13/blake.blazers.ap/index.html)

Mikki Moore (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/players/3308) agreed to a contract with the Sacramento Kings (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/teams/kings) on Friday night, leaving the New Jersey Nets (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/teams/nets) to join his eighth NBA team. The 7-foot Moore had a breakthrough campaign with the Nets last season, averaging career highs of 9.8 points and 5.1 rebounds while making nearly 61 percent of his shots, leading the NBA. He started 55 games for New Jersey while filling in for injured Nenad Krstic (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/players/3622), providing energy and veteran experience as the Nets reached the second round of the playoffs,
link:SI.com - NBA - 7-footer Moore%exits Nets, inks with Kings - Saturday July 14, 2007 12:02AM (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/basketball/nba/07/13/moore.kings.ap/index.html)

The Utah Jazz (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/teams/jazz) signed point guard Jason Hart (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/players/3448) on Friday. Hart signed a multiyear contract, but terms were not disclosed, said Kevin O'Connor, Jazz vice president of basketball operations.
link:SI.com - NBA - Jazz sign point guard Hart to multiyear contract - Saturday July 14, 2007 1:45AM (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/basketball/nba/07/14/jazz.hart.ap/index.html)

Argentine star Luis Scola (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/players/3653) has reached an agreement in principle with the Houston Rockets (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/teams/rockets), his agent said Friday. Scola will sign a contract Saturday, agent George Bass wrote in an e-mail to The Associated Press
link:SI.com - NBA - Scola agrees to post-trade deal with Rockets - Saturday July 14, 2007 1:48AM (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/basketball/nba/07/14/scola.rockets.ap/index.html)

League sources confirmed the Bulls reached agreement on a two-year contract with Joe Smith late Friday, the veteran forward who had been their No. 1 target in free agency.

By K.C. Johnson
Tribune staff reporter

July 13, 2007, 11:07 PM CDT

Not quite an inside scoring demon, but has given us fits from time to time.

League sources confirmed the Bulls reached agreement on a two-year contract with Joe Smith late Friday, the veteran forward who had been their No. 1 target in free agency.

By K.C. Johnson
Tribune staff reporter

July 13, 2007, 11:07 PM CDT

Not quite an inside scoring demon, but has given us fits from time to time.
They can have him. I never liked that guy.

Dumb move in my opinion. Joe Smith and P.J. Brown are now going to take away more minutes from Noah and Tyrus Thomas. He is not even close to a consistent post scorer either.

LOL Patterson makes Artest look like the Dalai Lama.

LMAO.:rofl:

All these movements and so far the only news out of the Pistons camp is that we have been resigning our own. Nothing wrong with that, but we are still looking at the same vets that have fallen short the last 2 years and have gotten older and now we are putting our hope of some rookies and 2 year players with limited NBA experience.

Yeah I want our new guys to get much PT this year as possible, I still think we still need one more ligit vet to tie our starters and new guys together. You know like an ace in the hole when a newby falters....just being a concerned Piston fan now instead of in March:sssh:

A day after losing center Mikki Moore to free agency, the New Jersey Nets reached an agreement in principal with former All Star Jamaal Magloire on Saturday. Magloire averaged 6.5 points and 6.1 rebounds in 81 games last season with the Portland Trail Blazers. An All-Star in 2004, Magloire has career averages of 9.0 points and 7.5 rebounds in 506 games.
link: New Jersey fills void by reaching deal with Magloire - USATODAY.com (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/nba/nets/2007-07-14-magloire-agreement_N.htm?csp=34)

and I already posted this in another thread:

Mo Williams (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3750) will be returning to the Milwaukee Bucks (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=mil) after agreeing in principle to a six-year, $52 million contract, ESPN.com's Chris Sheridan has learned. The breakthrough in negotiations came when the Bucks increased their original offer as Williams was being heavily courted by the Miami Heat (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=mia). Williams will have a player opt-out clause after the fourth and fifth year of the deal, which has an average annual salary of $8.67 million.
link: ESPN - Williams agrees to six-year deal to stay with Bucks - NBA (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2936550)

A day after losing center Mikki Moore to free agency, the New Jersey Nets reached an agreement in principal with former All Star Jamaal Magloire on Saturday. Magloire averaged 6.5 points and 6.1 rebounds in 81 games last season with the Portland Trail Blazers. An All-Star in 2004, Magloire has career averages of 9.0 points and 7.5 rebounds in 506 games.
link: New Jersey fills void by reaching deal with Magloire - USATODAY.com (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/nba/nets/2007-07-14-magloire-agreement_N.htm?csp=34)

Hell, thats an upgrade for New Jersey. Magloire might finally have his career rejuvenated playing with J. Kidd.

(http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=845)Alonzo Mourning (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=845) is coming back, one more time.

Ending nearly three months of suspense about his future, the Miami Heat (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=mia) center said Sunday night at his annual Zo's Summer Groove charity game that he'll play again next season -- a choice he kept secret to the end, insisting he was still deciding just hours before the actual announcement.
Truth was, Mourning's decision was made weeks ago. The Heat's reign as NBA champions ended with a first-round sweep this past season by the Chicago Bulls (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=chi), and he simply isn't willing to let that be the final chapter in the book he's writing on his career.
"I want to redeem myself and try to help this team redeem ourselves as an organization and try to get back on track," Mourning said. "That wasn't the Miami team you saw in the playoffs last year. ... I was embarrassed. I was truly embarrassed by that outcome. I know for a fact we're a better team. It left a sour taste in my mouth and it's time to really end it all on the right note."

ESPN - Mourning says he'll be back for one more season - NBA (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2937820)

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Hell, thats an upgrade for New Jersey.

Yeah, I thought that was well when I heard about it.

http://ca.today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=sportsNews&storyID=2007-07-16T231739Z_01_N16379103_RTRIDST_0_SPORTS-NBA-BELINELLI-COL.XML
The Golden State Warriors have signed Italian guard Marco Belinelli, drafted by the Warriors with the 18th overall selection in the 2007 NBA Draft, the NBA club announced on Monday. Terms of the deal were not released.
Belinelli, a 6-foot-5 guard from Bologna, played on the Warriors NBA Summer League team in Las Vegas and averaged 22.8 points and 2.5 assists in four games, shooting 43.5 percent and earning Summer League All-Star honors.
The 21-year-old Belinelli played professionally in Italy for five seasons. In 33 games last season with Fortitudo Bologna in Serie A, Italy's top professional league, he averaged 16.4 points per game, while shooting 54.4 percent.
He averaged 13.5 points per game during last summer's FIBA world championship, including 25 points in a losing effort against the United States in a preliminary round match.

TSN : NBA - Canada's Sports Leader (http://www.tsn.ca/nba/news_story/?ID=213773&hubname=nba)
DeShawn Stevenson (http://www.tsn.ca/nba/player_bio.asp?player_id=350) re-signed with the Washington Wizards on Monday, keeping Gilbert Arenas (http://www.tsn.ca/nba/player_bio.asp?player_id=440)' backcourt running mate and pal with the club.
"DeShawn plays a key role for us, and he fits in very well with our team," Wizards president Ernie Grunfeld said. "He understands and has accepted his role.
"DeShawn is a hard-nosed competitor who wants to win."
The team wouldn't disclose terms of the deal, which was agreed to late last week. It's reportedly worth $15 million over four years.
Stevenson averaged 11.2 points, 2.7 assists and 2.6 rebounds last season, his first with the Wizards. He was the only member of the team who played in all 82 regular-season games - starting each one - and averaged career highs in field-goal percentage (.461) and three-point percentage (.404).

Looks like Destro Mason is headed back to the Bucks

The Woelfel World of Sports » Mason set to rejoin Bucks (http://www.journaltimes.com/nucleus/index.php?itemid=14277)

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/179/destrod21947ln1.jpg

The Independent (http://www.indeonline.com/index.php?ID=18183)

Varejao, Pavlovic finding suitors limited

When players are restricted free agents like the Cavaliers’ Anderson Varejao and Sasha Pavlovic, “it chills the market,” a prominent agent said.
Despite much to offer other teams, neither player has gotten an offer. Largely because they are restricted, there’s been zero interest.

The Independent (http://www.indeonline.com/index.php?ID=18183)

Varejao, Pavlovic finding suitors limited
I guess most experts know that these two are only as good as King James made them look vs the Pistons and Nets... :)

I guess most experts know that these two are only as good as King James made them look vs the Pistons and Nets... :)
Actually I like Pavlovic's game alot. He also limited the effectiveness of Rip (as did Flip S.) after the first couple of games. He can shoot mid-range, long-range, treys, and slash to the rack. Doesn't rebound all that well but eh....wuuuddya do??? I really would like to see Joe offer the full MLE, just to force Clev to match or lose a solid piece of their team.

Anxious to nudge close to the NBA’s luxury tax threshold, the Suns traded center Kurt Thomas and two future first-round draft picks (2008, 2010) to the Seattle SuperSonics in exchange for a future conditional second-round draft pick and an $8 million trade exception Seattle obtained last month in a trade.

The Suns’ payroll sat at $78.5 million, more than $10 million over the league’s $67.9 million dollar-for-dollar NBA luxury tax exception – a number that was lower than many anticipated – leaving Thomas’ $8.1 million player option for this season too rich for Phoenix to swallow.



After the trade, the Suns are still about $2.5 million over the luxury tax ($70.5 million), and they need to find another big man to replace Thomas.

Chicago’s P.J. Brown is at the top of the free-agent list, although there are indications that he’s leaning toward retirement. Chris Mihm resigned with the Lakers on Thursday, while players like Brian Skinner are a possibility.

Suns trade Kurt Thomas | EastValleyTribune.com (http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/93612)

They can Nazir, Prince and Flip for Shawn Marion.

:hoops:

They can Nazir, Prince and Flip for Shawn Marion.

:hoops:
I'm wondering, how come Phoenix hasn't jumped on this one yet?
:MusicBigGrin:

Miami Signs Smush Parker
The Heat (http://heat.realgm.com/) concluded its nearly month-long search for a veteran point guard Friday when it agreed to terms with guard Smush Parker (http://www.realgm.com/src_playerfile/775/smush_parker/), two sources said. Parker started most of the past two years for the Lakers (http://lakers.realgm.com/) before losing his starting job late last season.

Parker, 26, is believed to have agreed to a two-year contract for a portion of the Heat's $5.35 million mid-level exception. The deal is contingent on Parker passing a physical on Monday.
RealGM: Wiretap Archives: Miami Signs Smush Parker (http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/47357/20070727/miami_signs_smush_parker/)

Detrooiiiiiit Basketballllllll SUUUUUUUCCCCKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!! OH YEAH BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:gun1:

Boston radio really thinks KG is coming to the Celtics -- soon. What will this do to the power balance in the East? Garnett, Allen and Pierce in the same starting 5 and T-Wolves getting Jefferson and Theo Ratliff's expiring contract. Only one basketball to go around, fellas. I hope Coach Rivers talks defense to these guys.


ESPN - Sources: Celtics, Wolves resume KG trade talks - NBA (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2954127)

Looks like Dannyboy is getting some kind of serious. It will be really interesting to see how the EC fringe playoff teams (Magic, Nets, Raptors) act now that one of them may not be dancing next spring.

Boston radio really thinks KG is coming to the Celtics -- soon. What will this do to the power balance in the East? Garnett, Allen and Pierce in the same starting 5 and T-Wolves getting Jefferson and Theo Ratliff's expiring contract. Only one basketball to go around, fellas. I hope Coach Rivers talks defense to these guys.


ESPN - Sources: Celtics, Wolves resume KG trade talks - NBA (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2954127)

If it happens they will be a huge threat in the East.

The KG deal was just announced as official on Sportscentre (the Canadian one anyway).

ESPN.com is saying that it is "Imminent".

ESPN - Sources: Celtics, Wolves closing in on KG trade - NBA (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2954127)

Looks like Boston instantly became a contender in the East.

It actually looks like a good trade for Sota too. If Kobe comes to the East, then it will really even out the conferences.

Now all Boston needs is a real coach.

RealGM: Wiretap Archives: Gooden To The Warriors? (http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/47385/20070730/gooden_to_the_warriors/)

Looks like Miami is not the only team not doing so well. If this happens the only thing that changed on the Cavs roster is not having Gooden. They have had no draft picks or FA signings.

HoopsHype.com Rumors

HoopsHype - NBA Rumors (http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm)

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HoopsHype - NBA Rumors (http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm)

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Wow! How about a polygraph test for the refs.

Celtics sign veteran Pollard, adding height to their frontcourt - The Boston Globe (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2007/08/07/celtics_pollard_agree_on_deal)

RealGM: Wiretap Archives: Brown Considering Four Or Five Teams (http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/47552/20070809/brown_considering_four_or_five_teams/)


P.J. Brown (http://www.realgm.com/src_playerfile/413/pj_brown/)'s agent, Mark Bartelstein, told the Fort Worth Star-Telegram on Wednesday that Brown, 37, is evaluating four or five teams and then will decide if he wants to retire or play.

"Getting a guy like P.J. would be huge for us," Stoudemire said about a Suns (http://suns.realgm.com/) team whose current makeup seems to have Stoudemire as the last line of defense. "It can be difficult. I'm not a guy who weighs 290 . . . but I'll do what I have to do. I love this."

Magic and Foyle agree to contract -- OrlandoSentinel.com (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/local/orl-magic2307aug23,0,474847.story?coll=orl_home_util)

The longtime Warriors defender and shot blocker is expected to be a backup at center and power forward.

The Magic will sign Foyle to the NBA veteran's minimum of $1.2 million (based on his 10 years of experience). Foyle has been among the NBA's top shot blockers throughout his career.

Yes, but can Foyle reproduce Darko's AOTG stats?

Sactown Royalty :: A Sacramento Kings Blog (http://www.sactownroyalty.com/story/2007/8/30/123351/514)


Christie says that while he has not been offered a contract yet, he is receiving strong interest from two East Coast teams who he won't name at this point (for those scoring at home, The Rack is guessing Boston and Miami). He has spent the last several months engaging in his own basketball and conditioning-intensive workout program. Both of the suitors qualify for contender status in Christie's eyes, which works well given his number one basketball priority.
"I more than anything want to be on a championship contender and to be there to contribute and win a championship," Christie says. "I'm ready. I'm able."

Ruben Patterson Signs With Clippers - FanHouse - AOL Sports Blog (http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007/08/30/ruben-patterson-signs-with-clippers-chris-kaman-lets-out-a-groa/)


The Clippers are still reeling from the loss (http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007/08/22/blame-chris-kaman-says-brand/) of Elton Brand (http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/tag/EltonBrand/), but at least they're not sitting on their hands. Not satisfied with any of the available free agent power forwards on the market, the team signed small forward Ruben Patterson (http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/tag/RubenPatterson/)on Wednesday.

7Online.com: Spurs sign defensive wiz Bowen to extension (http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=sports&id=5695955)


The San Antonio Spurs (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=sas) signed Bruce Bowen (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3167) to a contract extension, the team announced Sunday.

Terms of the deal were not disclosed by the team, but the San Antonio Express-News said it was a two-year contract that will pay Bowen $4 million in each of the 2008-09 and 2009-10 seasons.

Only $4 million a year. That is a travesty.

This guy has been and continues to be one of the best defenders, if not the best defender in the whole league, and he is only getting $4 million a year.

That is just another example of the fact that very few people watch NBA games for the defense as opposed to the offense.

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or he understands that he's a piece to the puzzle and that by keeping his salary in line that his TEAM will remain tough for years to come because they will have room to bring in help.

its refreshing to see players who are set for life not try to milk a team for ever cent they can.

And then there's this:

Ohio.com - Cavs at forefront of NBA restraint (http://www.ohio.com/sports/cavs/10334347.html)


So here come Varejao and Pavlovic, guys coming off career seasons and looking around at their peers who got paid the past three summers. That includes their teammates. Larry Hughes, Damon Jones and Donyell Marshall all got big contracts from the Cavs in 2005, when more than a half-dozen teams had a load of cap space.

Varejao and Pavlovic want their piece of the pie, and who could blame them? Except, the pie has changed.

Varejao and Pavlovic and their agents seem to be in denial about it. Which is why they are getting so radical by attempting unprecedented holdouts to apply pressure to the Cavs. It's their attempt to buck the market.

ESPN - Source: Houston to attempt comeback with Knicks - NBA (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3057170)
ESPN - Broussard: Allan Houston talks about his comeback - NBA (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=broussard_chris&page=AllanHouston)

SI.com - Writers - Marty Burns: Ferry in interesting spot with Cavs free agents - Friday October 12, 2007 2:19PM (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/marty_burns/10/12/ferry.cavs/)

ESPN - Reports: Duncan agrees to two-year extension - NBA (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3086623)



Two-time league MVP Tim Duncan (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3173) has reached agreement with the San Antonio Spurs (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=sas) on a two-year contract extension, according to published reports.
Duncan, 31, has three years remaining on his current contract. The extension is worth $40 million and would take the 10-time All-Star through the 2011-12 season.

ESPN - Wolves' Foye out several weeks with knee injury - NBA (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3086803)


The Minnesota Timberwolves (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=min) received bad news on Tuesday with their regular-season opener fast approaching: guard Randy Foye (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=4135)'s lingering left knee injury will sideline him for several weeks.





An MRI test and CT scan performed on Foye's knee revealed a stress reaction in his kneecap, and the team announced that the second-year player will be out indefinitely.

This team is really going to be bad this season.

Surprise, surprise:

ESPN - Yi included in Bucks' starting five to start season - NBA (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3086147)



Talk about progress. The highly touted 6-foot-11 power forward from China moved his way into the Bucks' starting five for Wednesday night's opener against Orlando (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=orl).


Bucks coach Larry Krystkowiak unveiled his lineup Monday. Also getting a starting nod is veteran forward Desmond Mason (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3416), who signed as a free agent in the offseason to rejoin his former team.


Other starters are guards Mo Williams (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3750) and Michael Redd (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3442) and center Andrew Bogut (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3927).

With that starting lineup, Charlie Villanueva (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3933) will be coming off the bench at power forward and Bobby Simmons (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3551) at small forward.

Spurs trade Udrih to Timberwolves - San Antonio Business Journal: (http://www.bizjournals.com/sanantonio/stories/2007/10/29/daily10.html)

I wonder how this affects the 2nd rounder Minny owes us?

Spurs trade Udrih to Timberwolves - San Antonio Business Journal: (http://www.bizjournals.com/sanantonio/stories/2007/10/29/daily10.html)

I wonder how this affects the 2nd rounder Minny owes us?

I believe that the second rounder that the T-Wolves owe us is at there option for 2008 or 2009. Therefore, if they had only one second round pick it appears to me that we will now definitely get that pick in 2009 and not this coming year.

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Cleveland Cavaliers aren't interested in one-year deal for Varejao - Cleveland Sports News – The Latest Breaking News, Game Recaps and Scores from The Plain Dealer (http://blog.cleveland.com/sports/2007/11/cleveland_cavaliers_arent_inte.html)


A published report says that Anderson Varejao would be willing to return to the Cavaliers for one season at the mid-level of exception of about $5.3 million.
The Cavs say they want to sign Varejao but it doesn't appear they want to sign him for just one season. A one-year deal for Varejao means he becomes a unrestricted free agent next summer and the Cavs would rather sign him to a multi-year deal or get value for him in a trade.

Kidd back to Dallas? There's a lot of players involved in this one.

Nets in three-way talks for Kidd - NBA - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Anl0TI289pOkNlCw1dcTmSM5nYcB?slug=aw-kiddtrade013008&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)

Kidd back to Dallas? There's a lot of players involved in this one.

Nets in three-way talks for Kidd - NBA - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Anl0TI289pOkNlCw1dcTmSM5nYcB?slug=aw-kiddtrade013008&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)
No way that happens. Port essentially gives up Jack, Outlaw and Frye for Devin Harris......Nope, not gonna happen, not even if Jordan was the GM. If that was all it took to get those three out of Port then Joe D needs to get on the phone NOW!!!!!!

No way that happens. Port essentially gives up Jack, Outlaw and Frye for Devin Harris......Nope, not gonna happen, not even if Jordan was the GM. If that was all it took to get those three out of Port then Joe D needs to get on the phone NOW!!!!!!

Excellent trade for Portland

They get a future all star point guard in Harris to play next to Roy and give up a several role players.


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Excellent trade for Portland

They get a future all star point guard in Harris to play next to Roy and give up a several role players.


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Devin Harris is not nor will he ever be an all-star point guard. As a UM alum, I had to watch Devin "babyface" Harris, murder my guys in Crisler arena for 4 years. I can't stand that kid. I just cant see how that TWERP does it. I cant stand him, yet I respect his game, but no way I give up those 3 players for him.

Devin Harris is not nor will he ever be an all-star point guard. As a UM alum, I had to watch Devin "babyface" Harris, murder my guys in Crisler arena for 4 years. I can't stand that kid. I just cant see how that TWERP does it. I cant stand him, yet I respect his game, but no way I give up those 3 players for him.

Man you are putting out a lot of negative energy over nothing.



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Man you are putting out a lot of negative energy over nothing.



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Trust me you have no clue to the level of my discontentment towards Devin Harris. I almost put him in the Chucky Atkins category, but technically Harris has never done anything to me, unlike Chucky.

Trust me you have no clue to the level of my discontentment towards Devin Harris. I almost put him in the Chucky Atkins category, but technically Harris has never done anything to me, unlike Chucky.

Oh I trust you and you made your feelings pretty clear.

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Trust me you have no clue to the level of my discontentment towards Devin Harris. I almost put him in the Chucky Atkins category, but technically Harris has never done anything to me, unlike Chucky.

If you hate this man it's your problem, not his

Ok,winners of this proposed trade will be dal and to lesser extent, nets. But Portland is in good funk, why they would want to ruin their chemistry. And portland's intention shouldn't be to help conference rivals

I thought everyone on this board loved Nate.

Now you all are bad mouthing a great trade that he just made or at least gave his blessing to.

Portland had too many tweeners.

Next year you have

Aldridge
Roy
Oden
Harris
Webster?

That is a pretty darn good starting lineup.

There bench might be a little thiner, but this trade will definitely improve them.

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Artest to Denver?

And although the trade talks appear to be relatively quiet, the consensus is that a move could likely come closer to the Feb. 21 deadline, as a number of teams see no choice but to add a potent piece of Artest's caliber down the stretch. Sources close to the Denver Nuggets said there remains a possibility of Artest joining Allen Iverson and Carmelo Anthony in the Mile High City after the two teams had discussions in recent weeks.

Sports - Artest's future still remains a mystery - sacbee.com (http://www.sacbee.com/100/story/700347.html)

Atlanta just acquired (http://www.sacbee.com/100/story/717681.html) Mike Bibby.

He's not really a name player anymore but is still easily the best point guard the Hawks have had since Terry, and in this conference probably enough to cement Atlanta's status as a playoff team.

Also the Hawks get to dump Darko-esque bust Shelden Williams.