Our Live Draft is scheduled for Thursday, August 30th at 9:00pm EDT. The NFL season starts the following Thursday, September 6th.

I'd like as many people to be able to attend the draft as possible. Rather than making a big poll with 100 different times on it, I figured I'd start out with a nice simple one to see if any change to the time is needed.

Please cast your vote.

Our Live Draft is scheduled for Thursday, August 30th at 9:00pm EDT. The NFL season starts the following Thursday, September 6th.

I'd like as many people to be able to attend the draft as possible. Rather than making a big poll with 100 different times on it, I figured I'd start out with a nice simple one to see if any change to the time is needed.

Please cast your vote.

Jammer,

I'd like to attend but as things stand right now I have to work that night. I have the following Friday through Monday (7th through 10th)off. Prior to that week, I will have Monday & Tuesday off, Plus be home in plenty of time to draft on those weekends.

Do we want to do it a bit sooner? Sometimes things come up at the last minute, and we wont be able to get a live one going if that happens. Of course...do it too early and injuries can kill you.

I'd really like to do a live draft, but you know if its not in the cards...no biggie...I missed the baseball one and I'm still kicking all your %%%%%es anyhow.:pound:

So far it's a tie between can't make it but want to draft and I'm not even in the league but I really like poll! haha

Tater, don't worry about not making the draft, I've already pre-drafted for you. I've selected all of the Detroit Lions back-ups as your top picks. The good news is that the majority of them will probably be starting by week 6. The bad news is that they'll still be playing for the Lions.

Seriously though, I really didn't put too much thought into the draft time because I figured that there would be a good chance that it would be changing anyway. I figured that 1 week before the season was the absolute latest that I'd want to draft though. However I also didn't want to draft too soon due to the injury factor that you had mentioned. Usually the starters get the most minutes in week 3, so that would be the game that injuries might be a factor for teams' starters.

Tater, don't worry about not making the draft, I've already pre-drafted for you. I've selected all of the Detroit Lions back-ups as your top picks. The good news is that the majority of them will probably be starting by week 6. The bad news is that they'll still be playing for the Lions.

Seriously though, I really didn't put too much thought into the draft time because I figured that there would be a good chance that it would be changing anyway. I figured that 1 week before the season was the absolute latest that I'd want to draft though. However I also didn't want to draft too soon due to the injury factor that you had mentioned. Usually the starters get the most minutes in week 3, so that would be the game that injuries might be a factor for teams' starters.

Well, if I get the Lions backups you draft for me...that means I get Drew Stanton. :):) Oh wait, TFD will take all the Qb's. I'm screwed.

Ok, well, once other people respond, hopefully we can come up with a different time I can make.

I didn't vote because i'm not sure if i can make any date/time that's set out. the reason being is i am leaving my home in london and heading over to you guys in the states for some travel. so hopefully i'll be able to find an internet cafe at whatever time is planned.

otherwise i'll be mailing in my auto-picks. the only way i could guarantee being at the draft is if it was before i leave (before 20th august). but i don't expect any allowances to be made for me. if you make a date, i'll do my best to be there.

Jammer,

I'd like to attend but as things stand right now I have to work that night.

Same here. I"ll just have preselect all of my players.

Same here. I"ll just have preselect all of my players.

What dates might work for you bezeach?

What dates might work for you bezeach?
All the weekends and every week night except Thursdays.

All the weekends and every week night except Thursdays.

Sounds good.

Did you notice how Jammer tried to set the draft on a night when the two teams who were ahead of him in baseball couldn't make it?

Now, I'm not saying he's corrupt...but...:sssh:

Go easy on the commish guys. He's a rookie, and it's a thankless job.

Go easy on the commish guys. He's a rookie, and it's a thankless job.


Not going to happen. Who knows if he'll ever volunteer again. I'm going to have my fun while the opportunity is there. :nerner:

This is going to be a BAD league.

Already the vultures are circling.

Why I get involved with you guys is beyond me.

I haven't had this little fun since baseball started.

I keep hoping you'll grow up. NOT LIKELY!

:pound::pound::pound:

This is going to be a BAD league.

Already the vultures are circling.

Why I get involved with you guys is beyond me.

I haven't had this little fun since baseball started.

I keep hoping you'll grow up. NOT LIKELY!

:pound::pound::pound:


Woody, I know you're getting excited about football, but don't give up on baseball quite yet. My fantasy baseball team only beat your team 8-4 this week. Scoring 4 points off me is considered a moral victory by most opponents. Congrats!!

Woody, I know you're getting excited about football, but don't give up on baseball quite yet. My fantasy baseball team only beat your team 8-4 this week. Scoring 4 points off me is considered a moral victory by most opponents. Congrats!!

And you guys say I am arrogant!!! :pound:

Bill:

I know you and Darthko both have ESP, or is it called StatWacker, but I don't look at the scores until the night is over.

That 8-4 score could be right, and if it is, its the worse I've done in several weeks.

Next week its that Darthko guy. Lots of hot air, no life!

ok its getting closer to draft time, and i've got yet another sport to try and learn while trying to somehow be a fantasy guru. you'll be getting some questions from me again, so if anyone can answer i'd be most grateful.

first up:
what is the 'fan pts' column in the stats? is that just like a rating for the player? is it yahoo or expert determined or is it somehow related to what the fans think?

cheers guys.

ok its getting closer to draft time, and i've got yet another sport to try and learn while trying to somehow be a fantasy guru. you'll be getting some questions from me again, so if anyone can answer i'd be most grateful.

first up:
what is the 'fan pts' column in the stats? is that just like a rating for the player? is it yahoo or expert determined or is it somehow related to what the fans think?

cheers guys.


Fan points is fantasy points. It's funny that you asked Webz. I was going to explain this last night, but I was too tired.

Football is harsher than the other fantasy sports we've played because you don't get partial credit for winning categories. For example, in baseball, you can go 7-4-1 (winning 7 cats, losing 4, and getting a tie in the last).

But in football everything is added up. You win or lose that week.

For example, let's say your pass receiver catches a pass for 18 yards and runs 4 more into the endzone and scores on that play.

He would get (depending on our scoring system Jammer set up) about 6 points for the score, about .5 for catching the ball, and 2.3 for the 18+5 yards he gained.

So that play nets 6+2.2+ .5 =8.7 fan points.

I think every yard gained is .1
Fumbles are -1
Interceptions or fumble recoveries by your defense are 1 or 2 points.

Typically, in leagues I've played in, you'll get about 100 points average at the end of the day, although scores of 50 or 170 are possible on really bad or good days for a player.

So, if you & I played week one and you got 123.7 points and I got 115.8 points to end the week, you are 1-0 and I am 0-1. Even though I beat everyone elses score that week, I am still screwed. It's harsh.


Does that help?

Bill:

I know you and Darthko both have ESP, or is it called StatWacker, but I don't look at the scores until the night is over.

That 8-4 score could be right, and if it is, its the worse I've done in several weeks.

Next week its that Darthko guy. Lots of hot air, no life!

I split the $9.95 season cost of the Live StatTracker with my son. Over the course of an entire season it costs about 2 cents per day. That reminds me, I have to go collect today's 2 pennies from my kid...

I split the $9.95 season cost of the Live StatTracker with my son. Over the course of an entire season it costs about 2 cents per day. That reminds me, I have to go collect today's 2 pennies from my kid...

Man, you're lucky to have someone to split the cost with. I'm hoping to secure part-time employment to help me offset the one time fee. It's quite a financial burden on my family.

Laimbs is pretty tight with his cash. IIRC, he owes me two American nickels.

Thanks for the info Tater mate.

Got another one.

PAT Made for kickers?

Thanks for the info Tater mate.

Got another one.

PAT Made for kickers?

PAT is point after touchdown. The kicker gets an easy kick (Almost never missed) which is one point in real football and usually one point in fantasy.

You lose points if your kicker misses a field goal or extra point.

Side note...if a team goes for a two point conversion (run or pass which is harder and relatively rare) you'll get credit for it if your player (any position) was involved.

Unlike hockey, where, say, a goalie scores or gets an assist and you get no credit, if your kicker throws a touchdown pass you will get credit (I think), But that is EXTREMELY rare, although I think the Patriots kicker did it fairly recently.

It's just like the two point kick after a try but the degree of difficulty is almost nil because it is from point blank range, even though both sides lineup and the defense tries to block or harass the kicker.

Ok so I'm also wondering about the positions. Why do we have 6 bench slots when there are only 9 scoring slots?
Teams only play once a week right? So if everyone only has 1 game, when will these bench guys ever get a run?
And who should you usually stock there?

PS - I've seen probably half a dozen games in my life so I sort of understand how the game goes, just not tactics, positions or fantasy-wise. haha.

PPS - I just found a website which should help me. NFL Play Football: Football Basics (http://playfootball-vweb1.playfootball.com/footballfacts/basics.html)

Ok so I'm also wondering about the positions. Why do we have 6 bench slots when there are only 9 scoring slots?
Teams only play once a week right? So if everyone only has 1 game, when will these bench guys ever get a run?
And who should you usually stock there?

INJURIES! In football they happen all the time. You'll wish after one month that you had more bench spots, lol.

Plus there is a bye week for each team...I was going to explain that too. Good questions.

If you draft a quarterback and a backup quarterback make sure they don't have the same bye week off. If they do, get a different back up. So look at team schedules when making your list. :)

Who should you stock...well, personally I have one or two backup qb's, like 5 running backs total, and maybe 7 or 8 wide receivers.

Drafting: most people take one if not two running backs with their first two picks (nobody will fault you for grabbing Peyton Manning,QB, though). Running backs become more valuable as the season progresses due to injuries and they get the ball more than anyone.

actually this site is really good!!

it looks all childish with bells and whistles etc, but it's perfect for me. :nerd2: :pound:

NFL Play Football: Football Basics (http://playfootball-vweb1.playfootball.com/footballfacts/lesson1.html)

Lesson 2 escapes me though... Roscoe knows.

actually this site is really good!!

it looks all childish with bells and whistles etc, but it's perfect for me. :nerd2: :pound:

NFL Play Football: Football Basics (http://playfootball-vweb1.playfootball.com/footballfacts/lesson1.html)

Lesson 2 escapes me though... Roscoe knows.


Anyone who hasn't played fantasy football before should really look at a mock draft from any year. Don't bother much looking at individual players, but look at the positions. You'll see stuff like you shouldn't draft a kicker or defense too early no matter how good they are. Conversely, generally think running backs in the first two rounds.

webz, football is so much different than rugby because it so unbelievably violent. The pads protect and contribute to that.

I believe the average career of a pro NFL player is under 4 years. A lot of guys don't make it, and many are physically destroyed in their later years.

I still enjoy rugby quite a bit though. Especially when the Springboks or All Blacks are kicking the Wallabies' butts!

Anyone who hasn't played fantasy football before should really look at a mock draft from any year. Don't bother much looking at individual players, but look at the positions. You'll see stuff like you shouldn't draft a kicker or defense too early no matter how good they are. Conversely, generally think running backs in the first two rounds.
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That was good advise, but I was to stupid to use it.:sssh:
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I propose we select for draft position.
Not first come first served.
LaTom should be removed from the draft. Whoever gets him wins.

wheres the link to the league???????

password..

anything

(sorry, im new here and love FF)

wheres the link to the league???????

password..

anything

(sorry, im new here and love FF)

We are full Twych unless the Commissioner (Jammertime) decides to expand the league size from 12 to 14. He's Canadian, so you never know...he's awfully fickle. :pound:

If not we can put you in as a backup. There have been others asking to get in after we filled up too.

Hey, send Jammertime a private message, it can't hurt.

We have filled the 12 league spots and currently have 3 people on the waiting list. If a spot becomes open before or during the season, we'll fill the vacancy in order from the list.

I really don't want to exclude anyone, but I find that once you start getting past 12 teams the talent pool gets really thin. Between injuries and bye weeks, it's hard to field a full lineup each week.

We have filled the 12 league spots and currently have 3 people on the waiting list. If a spot becomes open before or during the season, we'll fill the vacancy in order from the list.

I really don't want to exclude anyone, but I find that once you start getting past 12 teams the talent pool gets really thin. Between injuries and bye weeks, it's hard to field a full lineup each week.

Really weeds out guys who know the NFL and the ones who don't

:wink:

More questions for whoever is willing to answer. I'm looking at defenses now. Trying to figure out what some of these are.
Only ones I'm really stuck on are:

TD - In what relation to TD's is this?

Safe Tackles - ?

Turnovers (Intercepts and Fumbles) - I'm guessing these are total FORCED

I know what pts allowed, sacks and blk kicks are.

Cheers.

I just voted on the poll too. I can make any draft date and time as long as it is before the 27th of August. After that, probably not at all. Any chance we can swing it a few days earlier Jammer?

I might be willing to share. If I can't keep after it, say 2 weeks in, I'll sell my interests for $5000.00.
Because my team will be in first place and running away from the league.

More questions for whoever is willing to answer. I'm looking at defenses now. Trying to figure out what some of these are.
Only ones I'm really stuck on are:

TD - In what relation to TD's is this?

If the defense intercepts or recovers a fumble and scores on that play.

Safe Tackles - ?

Safety...when the defense tackles an opponent behind the opponents line of scrimmage. two points for your defense (plus in real life the defensive team receives the ball on a kickoff)

Turnovers (Intercepts and Fumbles) - I'm guessing these are total FORCED

Yep. Fumble or interception.

I know what pts allowed, sacks and blk kicks are.

Cheers.

Webz,

See above. :)

Webz,

See above. :)
Just to clarify, a safety is when an opponent is tackled in their own END ZONE. If the QB is tackled behind the line of scrimmage but not in the end zone, that is called a sack.

I just voted on the poll too. I can make any draft date and time as long as it is before the 27th of August. After that, probably not at all. Any chance we can swing it a few days earlier Jammer?
We might be able to do that. I'm getting antsy to draft anyway! hahaha

I'll take a look and get back to you guys.

Just to clarify, a safety is when an opponent is tackled in their own END ZONE. If the QB is tackled behind the line of scrimmage but not in the end zone, that is called a sack.


Yep, that's what I meant to say. :)

We might be able to do that. I'm getting antsy to draft anyway! hahaha

I'll take a look and get back to you guys.

I'm starting a new job Monday, so no more nights or weekends for me. I'll be available almost any week night after 8:00 pm est or any time during the weekends.:dancingparty:

Yep, that's what I meant to say. :)
Yeah, I knew that was what you meant. Don't worry spud. I got your back. :gun1:....um... I mean :wedgie:...um...:grouphug:

thanks guys for your help. i'm getting there.

Kinda locked in at 6pm PST, 8-30
Webz, preselect your players and you don't need to be there.

Kinda locked in at 6pm PST, 8-30
Webz, preselect your players and you don't need to be there.

But i wanna be!

OK, since there are several people that would like to attend the draft but can't, let's see if we can find a date and time that works for everyone.

**Note: The original draft date/time will stand unless we can find one that can accommodate more people.**

Yahoo only allows 1 draft per time slot, so it's first come, first serve for the date and time that we want. So, with that in mind, please try to respond back as soon as you can so that I can make a switch to a new time if needed.

Do any/some/all of these dates work:
Sunday, August 5th - 9:30pm
Monday, August 6th - 9pm
Tuesday, August 7th - 9pm
Wednesday, August 8th - 9:30pm
Sunday, August 12th - 9pm
Monday, August 20th - 9:30pm
Tuesday, August 21st - 9pm
Wednesday, August 22nd - 9pm

Do any/some/all of these dates work:
Sunday, August 5th - 9:30pm YES
Monday, August 6th - 9pm YES
Tuesday, August 7th - 9pm NO
Wednesday, August 8th - 9:30pm YES
Sunday, August 12th - 9pm YES
Monday, August 20th - 9:30pm YES
Tuesday, August 21st - 9pm YES
Wednesday, August 22nd - 9pm YES


#1 option is Sunday, August 12th - 9pm

I can make any of them!!!

I'm retired!

Would prefer the later dates, but whatever.

OK, since there are several people that would like to attend the draft but can't, let's see if we can find a date and time that works for everyone.

**Note: The original draft date/time will stand unless we can find one that can accommodate more people.**

Yahoo only allows 1 draft per time slot, so it's first come, first serve for the date and time that we want. So, with that in mind, please try to respond back as soon as you can so that I can make a switch to a new time if needed.

Do any/some/all of these dates work:
Sunday, August 5th - 9:30pm
Monday, August 6th - 9pm
Tuesday, August 7th - 9pm
Wednesday, August 8th - 9:30pm
Sunday, August 12th - 9pm
Monday, August 20th - 9:30pm
Tuesday, August 21st - 9pm
Wednesday, August 22nd - 9pm

Any are good.

Any are good.
Crap. Looks like I'll have to come up with some more dates.:stirthepot:

Sunday, August 5th - 9:30pm
Monday, August 6th - 9pm
Tuesday, August 7th - 9pm
Wednesday, August 8th - 9:30pm
Sunday, August 12th - 9pm
Monday, August 20th - 9:30pm
Tuesday, August 21st - 9pm
Wednesday, August 22nd - 9pm

Any of these are good for me. Kind of late though. Btw, you can use the email tools on the league site to reach everyone if you aren't getting any response here.

:bump2::bump:

If you haven't voted yet, please do.

I'll be making a final decision on the draft time by the end of the week.

August 6-8 are bad for the Laimbeer family. Taking a little trip to catch a couple of Tigers games.

OK, since there are several people that would like to attend the draft but can't, let's see if we can find a date and time that works for everyone.

**Note: The original draft date/time will stand unless we can find one that can accommodate more people.**

Yahoo only allows 1 draft per time slot, so it's first come, first serve for the date and time that we want. So, with that in mind, please try to respond back as soon as you can so that I can make a switch to a new time if needed.

Do any/some/all of these dates work:
Sunday, August 5th - 9:30pm
Monday, August 6th - 9pm
Tuesday, August 7th - 9pm
Wednesday, August 8th - 9:30pm
Sunday, August 12th - 9pm
Monday, August 20th - 9:30pm
Tuesday, August 21st - 9pm
Wednesday, August 22nd - 9pm

Pretty sure I need a weekday at 6pm PDT.

When is the draft?

Does this league even have a commissioner?

I want my money back!!!

When is the draft?

Does this league even have a commissioner?

I want my money back!!!
I believe I said that I'd make a decision by the end of the week. I have until 11:59pm tomorrow!!

I believe I said that I'd make a decision by the end of the week. I have until 11:59pm tomorrow!!

Tsk Tsk. That's way past your bedtime. Especially since you've been so irritable and cranky these days.

Commissioning is your first priority. Now go commission. Chop chop!

Tsk Tsk. That's way past your bedtime. Especially since you've been so irritable and cranky these days.

Commissioning is your first priority. Now go commission. Chop chop!
You're right. I should do more commissioning. I hereby "commission" that Darth Tater shall pick 12th in each round and will only be permitted to select kickers in the first 6 rounds.

You're right. I should do more commissioning. I hereby "commission" that Darth Tater shall pick 12th in each round and will only be permitted to select kickers in the first 6 rounds.

Hmmm...Stern has nothing on YOU!

I'll bet the first ref you hire is named Donaghy.:tsk::rant:

I'll bet the first ref you hire is named Donaghy.:tsk::rant:
Refs? We don't need no stinking refs! :gun1:

I believe I said that I'd make a decision by the end of the week. I have until 11:59pm tomorrow!!

So what's the verdict already, dictator breath?:shootingsoldier::drillsergeant:

OK, our draft has been changed to Tuesday, August 21st at 9:30pm EST. It's a bit later than I'd like, but that was the best I could do based on everyone's availabilities and the available times slots from Yahoo, which are starting to fill up.

I'll PM everyone in the league to ensure that everyone is aware of the change.

To keep it fair for everyone that has already voted and is able to make it, I won't be changing the draft time/date again, so feel free to mark your calendars, call in sick to work, blow off your girlfriend/boyfriend/husband/wife/family. Whatever you have to do. I hope to see everyone there!

Jamm, I might miss the draft. You might need to cue me up, Let me know if you need anything.

Jamm, I might miss the draft. You might need to cue me up, Let me know if you need anything.
Just make sure that you pre-rank your players based on your preferences, strategy, injuries, etc. and you'll be good to go.

Jammer:

I'm thinking of letting the computer pick my team. Is that possible!!

Do I have to pre-select or rank the players, or will the computer do all the work for me???

I need help!

The players are automatically pre-ranked. I've had pretty good fortune in the past letting the computer do the picking.

If you want to adjust the pre-rankings, say you favor one player over another (or several others) you can push him higher on your draft list, and likewise push down guys you think are overrated.

Woody might actually do pretty well if he doesn't make his own picks. Are you sure you can't make the draft, Woody?
:pound: :pound: :pound:

REMINDER:

Our Live Draft is THIS TUESDAY, August 21st at 9:30pm EDT.

It is advisable to arrive at least 10 minutes before the start of the draft to ensure that you can log in and are comfortable with the settings, layout, etc. as our draft starts right on time.

It is also advisable to test your system to ensure that you are able to participate in the live draft. You can do this from our league's Yahoo home page. Click on (test your system) just under League Notes.

If you plan to do so, please ensure that you pre-rank your players up to 45 minutes before the start of our draft.

(Note: players are already pre-ranked by Yahoo, so you don't have to rank them if you don't want to. You can use the default rankings.)

Hope to see you all Tuesday night!

Bill:

Your concerns are well taken.

In hockey, I participated and picked a bunch of old-timers (Broduer, Iginla, Selanne, Brind'Amour, Lidstrom) and it turned out well. (Second place to a heavily sweating Tater.)

In baseball, I participated and picked a bunch of old-timers (Pudge, Delgado, Rolen, Griffey, Bonds, Lidge) and my team sucked.

In football, I would probably pick a bunch of old-timers ( Otto Graham, Leon Hart, Joe Schmidt, Lem Barney, and Doak Walker). They would all be injured or dead by the beginning of the season.

I think I'll let the computer do the work. That way some computer geek or stat sprocket will find guys I never heard of. That will give me a big headstart on Tater.

Only a few hours away from draft time!!

Only a few hours away from draft time!!

yaaaaaaayyyy!:gun1:

I still can't enter the draft room yet!! whats up with that?

Jammer has the number 1 pick. What a surprise.... haha.

EDIT: In now.

It's not letting me enter right now either...