View Full Version : Why I Hate The K. Garnett Trade
buddahfan
07-31-2007, 08:43 AM
Not really, but I thought it might grab some readers.
Actually the Garnett trade will do something that I have not yet seen mentioned.
That is, it will return the Celtics to ESPN headline time. Finally, after all of these dead Celtic years ESPN gets a renewed opportunity to hype another local Boston team.
So now we can look forward to 2007 NBA media coverage to be in order.
1. Durant
2. Celtics
3. Oden
4. Suns
5. Mavs
6. Bulls
7. Commercials
8. Commentary
9. Other teams and players
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roscoe36
07-31-2007, 09:35 AM
The Celtics still have the ugliest uniforms though.
I like it. Trades and new blood make the league more interesting. I'd like to see more of this not less.
I think the league / union has swung too far toward limiting player movement. I'd rather see GMs rated on their ability to evaluate talent rather than their ability to divine the entrails of the CBA.
buddahfan
07-31-2007, 10:06 AM
The Celtics still have the ugliest uniforms though.
Right on. Even in HDTV they are ugly. LOL
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himat
07-31-2007, 11:23 AM
Why I like this trade:
It will help put the Pistons under the radar while the Celtics and LeBron get all the coverage. While the Pistons are under the radar though they better get a hell of a game plan and finally finish playoff series instead of burning out.
TheeTFD
07-31-2007, 06:39 PM
F the Celts
I like it when we drub their butts up into the rafters.
mikhail1973
07-31-2007, 06:46 PM
The conventional wisdom is that the East is so weak that anybody in the NBA's weaker half has a chance to get to the Finals. That theory was supplied with plenty of credence when a so-so Cleveland team made it all the way to the Finals in June.
But the Pistons are still formidable, and might get just the rejuvenation they need with the addition of young, hungry players like Jason Maxiell, Rodney Stuckey and Amir Johnson to their regular rotation. Chicago's young players are getting better every season, and so far, general manager John Paxson has resisted the temptation of trading young members from that nucleus of Luol Deng, Ben Gordon, Kirk Hinrich and Andres Nocioni. Ben Wallace is still a big defensive factor in the paint. Throw in much-improved Thabo Sefolosha, Tyrus Thomas and defensive-minded rookie Joakim Noah, and the Bulls look like a serious championship contender.
Ask yourself: Is Boston really better than Detroit or Chicago?
SI.com - Writers - Chris Ekstrand: Celtics hardly a lock to win the East - Tuesday July 31, 2007 5:48PM (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/chris_ekstrand/07/31/garnett.celtics/)
buddahfan
07-31-2007, 07:45 PM
F the Celts
I like it when we drub their butts up into the rafters.
I have never understood how a term that refers to one of the most pleasurable experiences that a person can have, can have such a negative connotation.
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mikhail1973
07-31-2007, 07:54 PM
I have never understood how a term that refers to one of the most pleasurable experiences that a person can have, can have such a negative connotation.
:hoops:
:pound: :pound: :pound: :pound: :pound:
That reminds me:
F Albania!!!
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/3359/uploadxv6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
ggazoo69
07-31-2007, 09:15 PM
I hate this trade simply because I live in the Boston area and I hear about it every time I turn on the radio. Initial reports said Heinsohn wet himself when he heard about the deal.
LA Dre
07-31-2007, 09:33 PM
I hate this trade simply because I live in the Boston area and I hear about it every time I turn on the radio. Initial reports said Heinsohn wet himself when he heard about the deal.
LOL:pound: :pound:
Zoo, God rest their souls, but I am sure Auerbach and Johnny Most did the same.......
Agree wit Himat, that with all the attention of the celtics, we can hide below the radar while our team meshes with the new guys.
ESPN and TNT are already scrambling to get ahold of the schedule from the NBA. Look for the Celtics to go from 3 nationally televised games to 13!!
DeetroitDynasty-e
07-31-2007, 09:49 PM
I gotta say, after watching that press conference and seeing how giddy those guys are, and the great attitudes they all bring to the table... I'm a little afraid. I know the whole season is ahead, and Boston will still be filling out their roster maybe with a Boykins (they need a point), or a Matt Barnes (my personal favorite in the FA market). But I think this team will be scary, and thats a very good thing for our Pistons. I love the way our team plays when it feels disrespected and under appreciated. I know that our Pistons have a lot of pride, and when the national attention starts doubting Motown after the last two years, and starts putting emphasis on Cleveland, Chicago, Wade, and now Boston, our guys will react in a very positive way.
buddahfan
07-31-2007, 10:02 PM
I am willing to wager anyone on this board right now a case of beer that the Celtics don't win over 50 games this year.
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ggazoo69
07-31-2007, 10:37 PM
I am willing to wager anyone on this board right now a case of beer that the Celtics don't win over 50 games this year.
:hoops:
What kind of beer? If one of the Celts' Big 3 gets hurt, they're in big trouble.
DeetroitDynasty-e
07-31-2007, 10:38 PM
What kind of beer?
I was thinking the same exact thing... well if Boston does win more than 50 i would say something Bostonian... a variant of Sam Adams?
Dlev59
07-31-2007, 10:41 PM
The Celtics will be the 5th best defensive team in the East.
Behind Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland, and the Knicks...............
Therefore, no Finals for the Celtics!!!!!!!
CloudWalker
07-31-2007, 10:43 PM
I am willing to wager anyone on this board right now a case of beer that the Celtics don't win over 50 games this year.
:hoops:
You may be right, however, that wouldn't preclude them from making it to the NBA Finals so I'm not going to place much in what the regular season holds for them good or bad.
I personally am not sold on the C's. I'm not concerned with the big three having to play huge minutes every night (okay maybe Ray Allen concerns me there), but I am NOT sold on Rondo being the starter on a Championship ballclub; furthermore, I am not sold on Perkins being a 40+ minute starter on any ballclub.
There are chinks in Bostons armor despite the newfound hype.
DeetroitDynasty-e
07-31-2007, 10:47 PM
You may be right, however, that wouldn't preclude them from making it to the NBA Finals so I'm not going to place much in what the regular season holds for them good or bad.
I personally am not sold on the C's. I'm not concerned with the big three having to play huge minutes every night (okay maybe Ray Allen concerns me there), but I am NOT sold on Rondo being the starter on a Championship ballclub; furthermore, I am not sold on Perkins being a 40+ minute starter on any ballclub.
There are chinks in Bostons armor despite the newfound hype.
Boston's off season is hardly over...
Veteran point guard Brevin Knight is still available, and center Dale Davis has indicated he would like to play another year. Neither player would command an exorbitant salary, and the allure of playing for a contender might be enough to sway them in Boston's direction.
SI.com - Writers - Chris Mannix: Supporting cast will be key for Celtics - Tuesday July 31, 2007 5:39PM (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/chris_mannix/07/31/garnett.reaction/index.html)
We'll see what roll players they can pick up and whose willing to work for peanuts to piggy back on this trio
himat
07-31-2007, 10:48 PM
Celtics Roster | Celtics.com (http://www.nba.com/celtics/roster/)
Look how weak the rest of the roster is now. The Celtics gave up their #5 pick, two future picks, Al Jefferson, Gerald Green, and Telfair in order to get KG and Ray Allen.
illmatic774
07-31-2007, 11:18 PM
In 3-4 years they'll go back to being HORRIBLE.
Bulls in July 06 = Celtics in July 07.
Buckeyes#1
07-31-2007, 11:32 PM
I am willing to wager anyone on this board right now a case of beer that the Celtics don't win over 50 games this year.
:hoops:
That's kind of a foolish statement to make seeing you are not sure which refs are going to be betting for or against the Celtics.
roscoe36
07-31-2007, 11:48 PM
That's kind of a foolish statement to make seeing you are not sure which refs are going to be betting for or against the Celtics.
:stirthepot: :rofl:
Does it matter? They're all cheaters! ;)
buddahfan
08-01-2007, 01:21 AM
That's kind of a foolish statement to make seeing you are not sure which refs are going to be betting for or against the Celtics.
Don't worry, I have the refs in my back pocket, which back pocket I don't know but they are there somewhere.
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Buckeyes#1
08-01-2007, 01:21 AM
:pound: :pound: :pound: :pound: :pound:
That reminds me:
F Albania!!!
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/3359/uploadxv6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Is this Larry Brown in the robe? Larry Brown getting ready to meet God. I sure hope the front of that robe doesn't fly upward for some reason.
This lady's cell phone looks like the one I had a couple of years ago my sons were making fun of me about. I got it real cheap though. I got it on one of those prepay plans where the phone was free.
coynejeremy
08-01-2007, 01:40 AM
In 3-4 years they'll go back to being HORRIBLE.
Bulls in July 06 = Celtics in July 07.
Better to be potentially great for 3-4 years and then horrible, than to just be horrible. Minny must have decided being horrible without KG was financially better than being horrible with him.
I was thinking the same exact thing... well if Boston does win more than 50 i would say something Bostonian... a variant of Sam Adams?
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buddahfan
08-01-2007, 09:06 AM
Kennedy has a better chance of beating Clinton out for the Democratic candidate to withdraw from Iraq, than Boston does of winning 50 games this year, and Kennedy is not even running.
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himat
08-01-2007, 11:57 AM
PISTONS: Boston Buzz (http://www.nba.com/pistons/news/langlois_blog_070801.html)
All this hoopla for a team that MAY win around 40 games. The ref scandal must have really angered the NBA braintrust.....................
TheeTFD
08-01-2007, 07:23 PM
They will be better than last year.
All three of those guys are finishers.
A couple of ball passing guard scrubs and they're set.
Buckeyes#1
08-02-2007, 01:35 AM
I am willing to wager anyone on this board right now a case of beer that the Celtics don't win over 50 games this year.
:hoops:
All kidding aside, I do believe you are underestimating what the Celtics have here. We just witnessed what one superstar did to our Pistons a few months ago. The Celtics with three great HUNGRY players will be just fine in my opinion. Plus the owner has given Danny the ok to go over the salary cap. If I was a betting, drinking man, I'd take you up on your offer. :MusicBigGrin: Anybody know what Vegas says the odds are of Boston winning 50+ games right now?
DirtyMoney
08-02-2007, 09:41 AM
This should be an exciting season. The bad side is that we may lose some TNT time to Boston.
detroitsfynest
08-02-2007, 11:24 AM
I really dont think a 3 man show can do too much damage I dont care how great they are.They have to show me first before I start saying Boston will win anything.
ggazoo69
08-02-2007, 11:40 AM
With the exception of the Donaghy mess, the Celtics trade is the most intriguing thing that has happened in the Association this offseason. They'll be interesting to watch, whether you are a Celtics fan or not. Sports talk radio is GIDDY in Beantown.
mikhail1973
08-02-2007, 12:12 PM
With the exception of the Donaghy mess, the Celtics trade is the most intriguing thing that has happened in the Association this offseason. They'll be interesting to watch, whether you are a Celtics fan or not. Sports talk radio is GIDDY in Beantown.
It will be interesting indeed. I wonder if that could make Pistons to play with the proverbial chip on their shoulder.
:sssh:
The Low
08-02-2007, 12:16 PM
I really dont think a 3 man show can do too much damage I dont care how great they are.They have to show me first before I start saying Boston will win anything.
You DO realize that the Cavaliers ended up in The Finals without even a 3 man show don't you?
himat
08-02-2007, 12:23 PM
I really dont think a 3 man show can do too much damage I dont care how great they are.They have to show me first before I start saying Boston will win anything.
Heat 2006: 2 man show did a lot of damage
Cavs 2007: 1 man show did a lot of damage
Boston is going to be tough.
Put me down for 39 Boston victories this season. A record of 39-43 sounds about right.........:stirthepot:
roscoe36
08-02-2007, 12:36 PM
Yeah, no doubt.
3 man shows.
Jordan, Pippen, Rodman
Zeke, Dumars, Laimbeer
McHale, Parrish, Bird
Duncan, Parker, Ginobili
Kidd, Jefferson, Martin
Jabbar, Johnson, Worthy
You get good play out of 1 or 2 role players to fill out the starting lineup or add a decent sixth man, and you're talking Championship caliber team.
lemonpen
08-02-2007, 12:47 PM
I really dont think a 3 man show can do too much damage I dont care how great they are.They have to show me first before I start saying Boston will win anything.
Just look a few miles south to New Jersey. The Net threesome can't hold a candle to the Bostonians.
raw36
08-02-2007, 02:38 PM
Of the successful "all-star" teams, there seems to be one dominant personality holding sway over egos, team chemistry and the winning attitude. Jordan, Bird, Magic, Isaiah, Duncan, Big Ben. They seemed to have their teammates' respect and commitment to play hard every game. And I think they rightfully earned that respect.
Will Pierce and Allen step aside for KG to be the leader of the new-look Celtics? I'd say yes. KG should be primed to win and, like the Pistons of 04, extremely hungry (VC pales in comparison). If they are healthy, they'd be tough.
But I don't think we Pistons fans should be worried much. The Pistons are known to play to the level of the competition. Since the East is better now (well, at least I think the C's and the Knicks are better off), maybe this is just what we need to keep the team on its toes.
Buckeyes#1
08-02-2007, 07:23 PM
Yeah, no doubt.
3 man shows.
Jordan, Pippen, Rodman
Zeke, Dumars, Laimbeer
McHale, Parrish, Bird
Duncan, Parker, Ginobili
Kidd, Jefferson, Martin
Jabbar, Johnson, Worthy
.
Darko, Arroyo, Delfino,
I wonder if Kevin and Danny made this trade with the idea of both of them making a comeback as the fourth and fifth players on the team. Pippen wants a job too. Sprewell might want a few minutes as well. Reggie Miller too.
All kidding aside, these three guys for Boston are going to be extremely hungry. They know now is the time if there ever was one, and they do not want to all three go out remembered as losers; although I don't perceive them that way. Just the fear of that thought though is going to light a fire under them. All three are salivating going from a hopeless situation to having a tremendous opportunity. I hope our Pistons take them seriously. I agree with ggazoo. They are going to be fun to watch.
Buckeyes#1
08-03-2007, 09:45 AM
I agree with ggazoo. They are going to be fun to watch.
Except against our Pistons of course.
CloudWalker
08-03-2007, 10:27 AM
Yeah, no doubt.
3 man shows.
Jordan, Pippen, Rodman
Zeke, Dumars,Laimbeer
McHale, Parrish, Bird
Duncan, Parker, Ginobili
Kidd, Jefferson, Martin
Jabbar, Johnson, Worthy
You get good play out of 1 or 2 role players to fill out the starting lineup or add a decent sixth man, and you're talking Championship caliber team.
Well technically Aguirre was sort of a Paul Pierce/Ray Allen for the Dallas Mavericks before he came to Detroit. That would have made the Pistons at least a 4 man show....
It's compulsive, I have to argue the Pistons into being better than those other guys. :)
MotownPride
08-03-2007, 02:17 PM
Anyone who isn't afraid of this squad is fooling themselves. Celts win 50 games easy. Allen, Pierce and Garnett???? There isn't a better collection of 3 players in the league. Great basketball tradition, adequate coach, talent and hunger.... I'll definitely be watching those games.
NotoriousCPC
08-03-2007, 06:59 PM
Comparing this supporting cast to Miami or anyone else is shortsighted I think. While Jason Williams, Antoine Walker, Udonis Haslem and Eddie Jones are not world beaters I think they're miles better than Rajon Rondo, Kendrick Perkins and Brian Scalabrine.
This team is as thin as tissue paper and both Ray Allen and Paul Pierce are coming off of injury plagued seasons.
Remember they won only 24 games last year and that was with Jefferson providing 16 and 11. Taking into account everything they lost 74.3 points per game, 30.2 rebounds and 12.8 assists per game. So even if Allen and KG give you the 20-24 ppg and all of the offensive and defensive prowess that comes with them the team still needs help. And if Allen goes down with an ankle problem the double and triple teams will come fast and furious.
TheeTFD
08-04-2007, 07:58 PM
that's a nice triplet Eyes
you got alot of nerve.
buddahfan
08-04-2007, 10:39 PM
All kidding aside, I do believe you are underestimating what the Celtics have here. We just witnessed what one superstar did to our Pistons a few months ago. The Celtics with three great HUNGRY players will be just fine in my opinion. Plus the owner has given Danny the ok to go over the salary cap. If I was a betting, drinking man, I'd take you up on your offer. :MusicBigGrin: Anybody know what Vegas says the odds are of Boston winning 50+ games right now?
So we can change the bet if you would like. Make an offer.
:hoops:
buddahfan
08-04-2007, 10:49 PM
Yeah, no doubt.
3 man shows.
Jordan, Pippen, Rodman
Zeke, Dumars, Laimbeer
McHale, Parrish, Bird
Duncan, Parker, Ginobili
Kidd, Jefferson, Martin
Jabbar, Johnson, Worthy
You get good play out of 1 or 2 role players to fill out the starting lineup or add a decent sixth man, and you're talking Championship caliber team.
McHale Perish and Bird?
The Celtics best year was in 1985-86 when they won 67 games and the title.
In addition to McHale, Perish and Bird they had:
Dennis Johnson and Danny Ainge, playing guard, both of whom were excellent perimeter defenders.
All of your other big three had at least one excellent defending guard, in some cases more than one.
The Celtics have ZERO perimeter defense as things now stand.
45 wins tops
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TheeTFD
08-06-2007, 10:17 PM
Can I add these 3?
CB, Rip and Sheed
buddahfan
08-07-2007, 11:59 AM
Except against our Pistons of course.
Why wouldn't they be fun to watch against our Pistons?
We are going to take them to school big time and the Boston press, including ESP, will put them in "the detention hall", after we get through with them.
That is going to be a blast to watch. LOL
:hoops:
Buckeyes#1
11-14-2007, 11:20 PM
All kidding aside, I do believe you are underestimating what the Celtics have here. We just witnessed what one superstar did to our Pistons a few months ago. The Celtics with three great HUNGRY players will be just fine in my opinion. Plus the owner has given Danny the ok to go over the salary cap. If I was a betting, drinking man, I'd take you up on your offer. :MusicBigGrin: Anybody know what Vegas says the odds are of Boston winning 50+ games right now?
I don't always agree with you but good call Buckeye. The Celtic look quite hungry right now. They are going to be the East's most determined team. Three superstars that were stuck on losers, with no end in sight of any relief, all of a sudden being placed on the exact same team. What are the chances of that? These three players know and understand this may be their last chance to put to rest any doubt about their greatness, simply because they have never gone anywhere in the playoffs. This is what is going to drive the Celtics to a great year, barring any injuries of course. Piston players, you better be ready. Right now I see you as the #2 seed in competition with the hungriest team in the NBA as #1.
TaShawn
11-16-2007, 11:01 AM
So we can change the bet if you would like. Make an offer.
What is the over/under at this point in your mind?
buddahfan
11-16-2007, 12:18 PM
What is the over/under at this point in your mind?
Its history at this point. Closed case.
However I will go a six pack on the Hornets at Grizzlies tonight.
I will take the Hornets and give you 2 points.
:hoops:
TaShawn
11-16-2007, 12:24 PM
Its history at this point. Closed case.
How is the future history?
I doubted the Celtics new plan too. I'm just saying that after seeing this nice start by them, do you think they're for reals?
buddahfan
11-16-2007, 12:34 PM
How is the future history?
I doubted the Celtics new plan too. I'm just saying that after seeing this nice start by them, do you think they're for reals?
I still don't think that all 3 of the Big Three will stay healthy for the entire year.
Of course if the Celtics build up a great record before any of them get hurt they could wind up with a very good record.
Bottom line is if all 3 of the Big Three are healthy come playoff time it appears to me at this point that the Celtics will be competitive during the playoffs.
:hoops:
TaShawn
11-16-2007, 12:54 PM
Excluding KG, Pierce, and Allen, the rest of the Celtics are shooting with an eFG% of 53.3% on the season.
So, their role players are kicking butt too.
Rondo is especially underrated with 2.3 steals/gm and 53% shooting.
I'm not sure if we would beat them in the playoffs or not.
BillLaimbeer
11-16-2007, 01:18 PM
Why wouldn't they be fun to watch against our Pistons?
We are going to take them to school big time and the Boston press, including ESP, will put them in "the detention hall", after we get through with them.
That is going to be a blast to watch. LOL
What is this ESP you speak of? I remember someone (Darth?) predicting the arrival of ESP, but it has escaped me.
MotownPride
11-16-2007, 01:43 PM
Excluding KG, Pierce, and Allen, the rest of the Celtics are shooting with an eFG% of 53.3% on the season.
So, their role players are kicking butt too.
Rondo is especially underrated with 2.3 steals/gm and 53% shooting.
I'm not sure if we would beat them in the playoffs or not.
I'm with you Tashawn.
buddahfan
11-16-2007, 01:52 PM
What is this ESP you speak of? I remember someone (Darth?) predicting the arrival of ESP, but it has escaped me.
Extra-Sensory Perception (ESP) is defined as ability to acquire information by paranormal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranormal) means independent of any known physical senses (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sense) or deduction from previous experience.
Sorry if I wasn't clear before but hopefully this post will clear it up.
ESP is the leader in vehicle emissions and safety testing. For more than 25 years, ESP has been creating innovative products and services that lead the way in the automotive inspection and maintenance industry.
Extra-sensory perception - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extra-sensory_perception)
ESP - Home (http://www.esp-global.com/esp)
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coynejeremy
11-16-2007, 04:59 PM
What is this ESP you speak of? I remember someone (Darth?) predicting the arrival of ESP, but it has escaped me.
Extra sensitory perspiration. The kind that comes out of Chauncey's bald head - that guy's head sure can sweat!! :MusicBigGrin:
BillLaimbeer
11-16-2007, 10:39 PM
Extra sensitory perspiration. The kind that comes out of Chauncey's bald head - that guy's head sure can sweat!! :MusicBigGrin:
LOL. Glad someone has a sense of humor! :)
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