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jammertime
08-21-2007, 11:40 PM
Now that the draft is behind us, let the trash talking begin!

I'm curious to hear how everyone thinks they did in the draft. Picks you like, picks you wish you hadn't made, guys you wanted but just missed on, who you thought had the best draft, who had the worst, etc.

Let's hear it!

Ozarkruffrider
08-21-2007, 11:42 PM
Only one I regret is picking 2 top WR's that are off the same week.

jammertime
08-21-2007, 11:44 PM
Only one I regret is picking 2 top WR's that are off the same week.
That happened to me last year. In fact, they were from the same team. I drafted Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Boldin. But for me, it was a no brainer. They were by far the best 2 players available at the time.

Darth Tater
08-21-2007, 11:53 PM
I think your team should rule the roost, Jammer. Good job.

I liked getting Westbrook with a late #1 and Bush with an early #2, considering my late pick.

Gates is a safe bet at T.E.

I just missed on Leinart and had to settle for Rothlisberger and Alex Smith.

Glenn was a sentimental choice, but I didn't know he was hurt.

I like getting Chicago's defense even though I had to reach a bit, I would do it again.

Overall, I think my team will finish in about 8th or 9th place. Course...I'll talk smack regardless!!!

Crayton and Peterson might turn out to be sleepers for me.

My football teams always are injury prone, anyhow. lol.

jammertime
08-22-2007, 12:17 AM
Having the 1st pick in the draft sure helps.

I think there are pros and cons to having the #1 pick. It's awesome to get the first pick, but it's also a long way to go before picking again at #24. I really like getting 2 picks in a row though.

I've been in a number of live drafts now and have picked in all different positions. 1st, last, middle and everywhere in between. It's tough to say which spot I like best. Being last isn't all that bad either because you get the 12th and 13th picks (in a 12 team league - even better in a 10 team league).

What did you guys think about your draft positions? And if you've been in other live drafts, which draft position do you prefer?

roscoe36
08-22-2007, 12:22 AM
Who went 1-2-3?

webz
08-22-2007, 12:22 AM
I was surprised that hardly anyone added any depth at RB. People were filling out their starting positions like DEF, TE and Kicker before taking RB3's who are NFL starters. All fine and good until you get an injury.

I didn't particularly like my draft position but thought I made the most of it. I like Parker and McGahee, but would have liked Addai more who was taken one spot ahead of me. But I have plenty of depth and talent at RB so I'm not too worried there.

I got a top 6 stud QB which was a goal of mine and thankfully I didn't have to reach for it which was a concern going in.

Got a couple of my favourite sleeper WR's in DJ Hackett and Brandon Marshall. I was again surprised by the rate WR's were disappearing off the board so early. I guess people wanted to make sure they were getting 3 good starters. But still, some were going waaaay too early IMO.

Ended up with Whitten at TE but I had no plans on taking a top TE where they were going in the 4th round.

Happy enough with my DEF and K considering where I got them. Those positions aren't championship winners (unless you got BAL or CHI). And Vinatieri in the 8th round? Humour me.

Other teams I think did well looking at whole squads, not just starters:
Jammer (made the most of the #1 position)
Footballers
Dynamo

Darth Tater
08-22-2007, 12:25 AM
Having the 1st pick in the draft sure helps.

I think there are pros and cons to having the #1 pick. It's awesome to get the first pick, but it's also a long way to go before picking again at #24. I really like getting 2 picks in a row though.

I've been in a number of live drafts now and have picked in all different positions. 1st, last, middle and everywhere in between. It's tough to say which spot I like best. Being last isn't all that bad either because you get the 12th and 13th picks (in a 12 team league - even better in a 10 team league).

What did you guys think about your draft positions? And if you've been in other live drafts, which draft position do you prefer?

Tenth worked out ok. In sports other than football, I'm used to getting lucky with high picks.

I just looked at everyones picks and I didn't do that bad at all. I actually like Dynamo's team better than your Jammer, and I think winless did a nice job too.

Billups I think will struggle.

Other than that, it should be a good battle for the playoffs.

You & ookie got top picks and those are the two teams I play twice (uggh...Tomlinson and Larry Johnson).

You're going to be begging for M. Turner if Tomlinson misses a couple of games.

webz
08-22-2007, 12:27 AM
Having the 1st pick in the draft sure helps.

I think there are pros and cons to having the #1 pick. It's awesome to get the first pick, but it's also a long way to go before picking again at #24. I really like getting 2 picks in a row though.

I've been in a number of live drafts now and have picked in all different positions. 1st, last, middle and everywhere in between. It's tough to say which spot I like best. Being last isn't all that bad either because you get the 12th and 13th picks (in a 12 team league - even better in a 10 team league).

What did you guys think about your draft positions? And if you've been in other live drafts, which draft position do you prefer?

I think being 1 or 2 in this draft was a big plus. It just seems to work out well in regards to where players fall. At 1 or 2 you get LT or SJax, then on the wrap-around a really solid RB2 like Jacobs or Thomas Jones, then you can either set yourself up with a Top 3 QB or Top 5 WR with your 3rd pick. Can't go wrong really.

I think drafting in the middle is quite tough. Especially 6-7-8 as there are question marks over the first round RB's in this area. You don't want a shaky RB in the 1st round.

jammertime
08-22-2007, 12:28 AM
Who went 1-2-3?
#1 - LaDainian Tomlinson - Jammer
#2 - Steven Jackson - Mikhail1973
#3 - Larry Johnson - Ozarkruffrider

jammertime
08-22-2007, 12:33 AM
I just looked at everyones picks and I didn't do that bad at all.
No you didn't. I was just looking at the rosters and you have a very solid team.

I just looked at everyones picks and I didn't do that bad at all. I actually like Dynamo's team better than your Jammer, and I think winless did a nice job too.

That's fine. You're entitled to be wrong.:MusicBigGrin:

You're going to be begging for M. Turner if Tomlinson misses a couple of games.
I like Turner. I'd have taken him if he made his way back around to me again.

BillLaimbeer
08-22-2007, 12:49 AM
I'm happy with Peyton Manning at #4. The running back position is a current weakness, though. I picked 4 RBs (Portis, Lynch, Norwood, Morency), hoping 2 of them will step up.

I like my TE (Krumpler) and K (Wilkins). I think WR is sometimes a crap shoot, so I took 5 of them (S. Moss, Galloway, Stallworth, Jennings, Booker) hoping a few of them will produce. Jeff Garcia is a solid backup QB.

Overall, I like my team. I was too afraid to take a Lion. They do bad enough without me jinxing them.

Darth Tater
08-22-2007, 12:55 AM
I like Turner. I'd have taken him if he made his way back around to me again.

Oh...he will. Somehow...he will. :heh::whistle:

Darth Tater
08-22-2007, 01:02 AM
I was surprised that hardly anyone added any depth at RB. People were filling out their starting positions like DEF, TE and Kicker before taking RB3's who are NFL starters. All fine and good until you get an injury.


Dynamo

Not me. I drafted RB's at #1,#2, #5 & #11. Normally, I grab them even higher though (like 1,2, 4 & 8 or something, but I was tired of having lousy receivers all the time).

I usually draft a QB early, but I always get burned, so I figured I'd take the scraps. lol.

Woody
08-22-2007, 03:57 PM
Nobody mentioned me, so I guess I'll have to do it myself.:)

I've drafted at the end every time (how did you fix that, Tater?). I like the 12-13 couplet each time.

Having never done football before, I have no idea how to play. I let the computer pick my first two picks and a couple later on.

I'm not crazy about Kitna, but I hope Martz has some good ideas. I've got Delomme as a backup.

I had trouble with the bye week and not having all the guys off at the same time. We'll see.

I never heard of the RBs that the computer picked with my first two picks. :pound::pound:

Darth Tater
08-22-2007, 04:24 PM
Nobody mentioned me, so I guess I'll have to do it myself.:)

I've drafted at the end every time (how did you fix that, Tater?). I like the 12-13 couplet each time.

Having never done football before, I have no idea how to play. I let the computer pick my first two picks and a couple later on.

I'm not crazy about Kitna, but I hope Martz has some good ideas. I've got Delomme as a backup.

I had trouble with the bye week and not having all the guys off at the same time. We'll see.

I never heard of the RBs that the computer picked with my first two picks. :pound::pound:


In my opinion, you did well Woody. Your first two running backs were solid choices.

From top to bottom your team looks good to me...but what do I know? :MusicBigGrin:

jammertime
08-24-2007, 12:19 PM
Darn Woody, nice pickup of Wes Welker. I had made a waiver claim for him right after our draft but because my team is soooooo much better than yours, Yahoo felt sorry for you and gave him to you instead.
:MusicBigGrin::stirthepot:

TheeTFD
08-24-2007, 12:28 PM
The rosters look surprisingly even.
Still wonder and will continue to wonder all season and the rest of my life how Jamm got to choose first?

jammertime
08-24-2007, 12:37 PM
Still wonder and will continue to wonder all season and the rest of my life how Jamm got to choose first?

Hahahaha it's like Citizen Kane, except instead of your last word being "Rosebud" it'll be "Jammer???...."

:pound:

You're right though, the rosters do look very even. I think 2nd place is definitely anyone's game. :stirthepot:

jammertime
08-24-2007, 12:43 PM
Thee, those are some nice moves. I had my eye on Chris Henry and Reuben Droughns.

webz
08-24-2007, 01:11 PM
Thee, those are some nice moves. I had my eye on Chris Henry and Reuben Droughns.

Just quietly Jammer, he picked up the WR Chris Henry who is suspended for the first 8 weeks of the season.

The RB Chris Henry is still available...

Not sure if that was intended or not.

jammertime
08-24-2007, 01:20 PM
Just quietly Jammer, he picked up the WR Chris Henry who is suspended for the first 8 weeks of the season.

The RB Chris Henry is still available...

Not sure if that was intended or not.
Actually, I was talking about the Bengals WR Henry. I didn't realize he was suspended! Good thing I didn't pick him up!

TheeTFD
08-24-2007, 01:34 PM
Yeah Cinn's C.H. is suspended...I like him late in the season.
How long is this fantasy season?

Woody
08-24-2007, 05:21 PM
Jammer:

I'm glad someone is looking out for me. I am learning that I can't count on the Commissioner, Tater, Laimbeer, and the rest of the vultures in here to show any compassion.:pound:

In fact, if I've learned anything the past year, its that the PF is no place to look for compassion or any sort of break.:gun1:

BillLaimbeer
08-24-2007, 06:41 PM
Yeah Cinn's C.H. is suspended...I like him late in the season.
How long is this fantasy season?

LOL. Nice try.

Ozarkruffrider
08-24-2007, 07:46 PM
BTW, Vick is out.

:yellowprison:

Darth Tater
08-24-2007, 08:36 PM
In fact, if I've learned anything the past year, its that the PF is no place to look for compassion or any sort of break.:hurt::crying:

Quit whining Woody:pout:. Are you looking for a group hug:grouphug:, or something? Man up already.

Besides, that stuff you are saying is simply not true. In fact...we give our esteemed leader Roscoe:shootingsoldier::canada: lots of respect and plenty of compassion!:wedgie::pound:But maybe that's just because he looks so yummy in fishnet stockings.:eyebrows::rofl:

BillLaimbeer
08-25-2007, 10:27 PM
The rosters look surprisingly even.
Still wonder and will continue to wonder all season and the rest of my life how Jamm got to choose first?

Interesting strategy to pick up a back-up QB (Garrard) and drop a starter (Pennington). I would have never thought of it...

TheeTFD
08-26-2007, 02:12 AM
Garrard will start soon.
Penn's arm is dead.

webz
08-27-2007, 01:09 AM
Garrard will start soon.
Penn's arm is dead.


Yeah, this isn't a keeper league.

jammertime
08-27-2007, 09:58 AM
Bill, you realize that JOEY HARRINGTON will be expected to throw to your new FA pickup Michael Jenkins right? :MusicBigGrin:

BillLaimbeer
08-27-2007, 03:24 PM
Bill, you realize that JOEY HARRINGTON will be expected to throw to your new FA pickup Michael Jenkins right? :MusicBigGrin:

LOL. For the first couple of weeks, Joey will be the QB. I'm sure the Falcons will pick up some retread vet to come in and take Joey's place. Or, perhaps Michael Vick will return on some sort of work-release program...

TheeTFD
08-28-2007, 01:51 PM
Joel looked good last nite. You know he'll find Crumpler.

jammertime
08-28-2007, 06:02 PM
You know he'll find Crumpler.
Yeah, he's the master of the short pass.

TheeTFD
08-28-2007, 06:20 PM
Not to his TE.
Or until he hangs him out to dry.

jammertime
08-31-2007, 08:32 PM
Garrard will start soon.
Penn's arm is dead.
Looks like Garrard was a good pickup after all. He's been chosen as the Jags starter.

ESPN - Jags name Garrard starting QB; Leftwich out - NFL (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp07/news/story?id=2999662)

BillLaimbeer
08-31-2007, 08:53 PM
Looks like Garrard was a good pickup after all. He's been chosen as the Jags starter.

ESPN - Jags name Garrard starting QB; Leftwich out - NFL (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp07/news/story?id=2999662)


Oops. It looks like I was the dummy for question TheeTFD's move. :nerd2:

Ozarkruffrider
08-31-2007, 09:40 PM
Blind squirrel anyone?

webz
09-03-2007, 08:09 PM
just a quick question. when do the lineups need to be set by?

BillLaimbeer
09-03-2007, 09:51 PM
just a quick question. when do the lineups need to be set by?

You can make changes up to 5 minutes before kickoff of a game.

Ozarkruffrider
09-04-2007, 12:40 AM
I can tell you right now that some of you better look REAL HARD at who your starting. It's like you got Billups on the bench and Flip Jr starting.:nerd2:

BillLaimbeer
09-06-2007, 10:29 AM
I can tell you right now that some of you better look REAL HARD at who your starting. It's like you got Billups on the bench and Flip Jr starting.:nerd2:

The only thing that I see out of place is someone having Calvin Johnson on the bench....

Ozarkruffrider
09-07-2007, 12:56 AM
Considering he's not starting, what's the beef?:burgereater:

jammertime
09-07-2007, 03:35 AM
Man, not a good opening night for Drew Brees.:gun1:

Woody
09-07-2007, 05:12 PM
Jammer and Bill:

How does the scoring work? Are the lineups set daily or on some day during the week?

For instance, could you have Manning as QB on Thursday, and then put him on the bench and have another QB on Sunday? Same with WRs. Could you play one group on the early games and another group on Sunday or Monday? When is the deadline for setting lineups and does it last all week through the Monday night game??

I'm new to this and I don't want Bezeach to send me to the bottom the very first week!! And then there's Darth. He's always playing all the angles, using cheat sheets, just being a real pain in the %%%%%.

I've got a guy with a bum ankle. When do I have to declare him in or out? Or can I wait until just before the game to make that decision??

It's already Friday. Are my lineups set already for this week or can I still change them???

BillLaimbeer
09-07-2007, 07:04 PM
Jammer and Bill:

How does the scoring work? Are the lineups set daily or on some day during the week?

For instance, could you have Manning as QB on Thursday, and then put him on the bench and have another QB on Sunday? Same with WRs. Could you play one group on the early games and another group on Sunday or Monday? When is the deadline for setting lineups and does it last all week through the Monday night game??

I'm new to this and I don't want Bezeach to send me to the bottom the very first week!! And then there's Darth. He's always playing all the angles, using cheat sheets, just being a real pain in the %%%%%.

I've got a guy with a bum ankle. When do I have to declare him in or out? Or can I wait until just before the game to make that decision??

It's already Friday. Are my lineups set already for this week or can I still change them???

You can change your lineups up until 5 minutes before a game. For example, you could switch your quarterbacks back and forth as much as you want until 1 pm on Sunday. Once Carolina's game (1 pm kickoff) starts, though, you can't add or remove Delhomme as your starting quarterback.

Woody
09-07-2007, 08:57 PM
Bill:

You didn't really answer my question.

You started Manning on Thursday. Now, can you bench him and start Garcia on Sunday, thus getting points from BOTH QBs in one week.

BillLaimbeer
09-07-2007, 08:59 PM
Bill:

You didn't really answer my question.

You started Manning on Thursday. Now, can you bench him and start Garcia on Sunday, thus getting points from BOTH QBs in one week.

No. Once the Colts game started last night and I had Manning as my QB, that slot was locked. I can't change it again until next week. If you have a guy in a starting position and the game starts, you are committed to that guy for the week.

Woody
09-07-2007, 09:03 PM
Good!!

Makes sense to me.

But I'll still keep my eyes on you and Darth.:)

jammertime
09-07-2007, 09:54 PM
Sorry Woody, I worked late tonight. Bill is correct, you can change your lineups up until just before kickoff for each game. However, what really matters is the kickoff time of the player that is in the starting lineup.

Let's use QBs for example, say you have player X currently in the starting lineup, but you want to change it to player Y. Once player X's game starts, he can't be moved. So even if player Y doesn't play until the next day, you're stuck with player X for the week.

You can only earn points from 1 player per roster position per week. Monday night games count as well. It goes by NFL weeks, not calendar weeks. The week 1 match-up includes all games for week 1 of the NFL schedule, regardless of when they are played. This becomes even more important late in the season when teams start playing some Thursday games.

Hope that made sense.

TheeTFD
09-09-2007, 09:17 AM
Back off Zark!
My receivers are going to kill you guys!
However since I got skunked in the Vegas big money football pools. Year in and year out, I may suck here too.

Darth Tater
09-09-2007, 01:51 PM
To those who don't know...

Stat tracker is free this week. Just hit the "launch stat tracker" button to check it out.

Also, usually on Thursday they update the "News & expert advice" section on the home page and they rank your players for that week (on a star system...5 being the best) based on the matchup that week. Don't take it as the gospel, but you might use it as a guide.

Good luck to all this week...except Jammer, of course! :gun1::sssh::MusicBigGrin:

BillLaimbeer
09-09-2007, 07:13 PM
Considering he's not starting, what's the beef?:burgereater:

I noticed that you started Calvin after all. Smart move!

Darth Tater
09-09-2007, 07:21 PM
I noticed that you started Calvin after all. Smart move!

Typical Darth football season.:nerd2:

All my points are on the bench.
Rothlisberger with 30 and Adrian Peterson with 23.

Still lots of guys haven't played, but I don't deserve to pull this one out.

Next week I'll play those guys and they will get nothing while the guys I played this week will light it up... It's like clockwork...Just watch.:nerd2::nerd2::nerd2:

TheeTFD
09-09-2007, 09:10 PM
I hear you Tate.
Any time you want to trade one of them, I'm in need of a RB.

jammertime
09-10-2007, 12:26 AM
Bill, excellent pickup of Chris Brown. I've been considering picking him up ever since our draft. I was really close to doing it last week but decided that I wanted to see how he did this week first. The Titans have a bit of a crowded backfield and Brown missed most of last season with an injury.

By the time I got home from work today and saw how he did, it was too late. Jerk.:gun1::MusicBigGrin:

BillLaimbeer
09-10-2007, 12:31 AM
Bill, excellent pickup of Chris Brown. I've been considering picking him up ever since our draft. I was really close to doing it last week but decided that I wanted to see how he did this week first. The Titans have a bit of a crowded backfield and Brown missed most of last season with an injury.

By the time I got home from work today and saw how he did, it was too late. Jerk.:gun1::MusicBigGrin:

My draft at the running back position was terrible. I have picked up a couple of free agent RBs since the draft. I'm up to 6 RB, although most of them are either hurt or 2nd string. My hope is that at least 2 of the 6 pan out.

Your advice about Joey throwing to Atlanta receivers finally sank in. Picking up a Falcon WR would be like taking the Michigan Wolverines as your Defense.

webz
09-10-2007, 03:04 AM
I hear you Tate.
Any time you want to trade one of them, I'm in need of a RB.

My draft at the running back position was terrible. I have picked up a couple of free agent RBs since the draft. I'm up to 6 RB, although most of them are either hurt or 2nd string. My hope is that at least 2 of the 6 pan out.


ha-hah!! this is where drafting backup RB's in the mid-rounds pays off! I got plenty of good RB's. make me an offer guys. i could do with another WR.

TheeTFD
09-10-2007, 02:58 PM
I may be able to whip all our butts with my WRs.
But some of you guys are sitting on some serious talent. That you can't use except to block others. Show some sac and make the big move.

Ozarkruffrider
09-10-2007, 09:14 PM
I noticed that you started Calvin after all. Smart move!:sssh::eyebrows:

BillLaimbeer
09-10-2007, 11:35 PM
Darth and Jammer, you guys could go right down to the wire....the way it should be, of course. This game could have playoff implications, as your two teams could be fighting for seeds #5-#8 and a chance to get into the consolation playoffs. Good luck to both!

jammertime
09-10-2007, 11:40 PM
Darth and Jammer, you guys could go right down to the wire....the way it should be, of course. This game could have playoff implications, as your two teams could be fighting for seeds #5-#8 and a chance to get into the consolation playoffs. Good luck to both!
If by "down to the wire" you mean "Jammer is going to destroy Tater" and by "fighting for #5-#8" you mean "Jammer is going to run away with first place" then I'd absolutely agree with your post 100%. Nice job!:thumb:

TheeTFD
09-11-2007, 10:56 AM
I think he means you stink.
Who's the points leader so far?

jammertime
09-11-2007, 06:52 PM
Wow Tater, your team really does stink.

Drees had a horrible game, my D had negative points and LT had an off week and yet I still beat you by 15 points. :stirthepot::stirthepot::stirthepot:

Bill was right, I am going to run away with this league!

Darth Tater
09-11-2007, 08:57 PM
Wow Tater, your team really does stink.

Drees had a horrible game, my D had negative points and LT had an off week and yet I still beat you by 15 points. :stirthepot::stirthepot::stirthepot:

Bill was right, I am going to run away with this league!

Dude, check out my optimal scores. My team doesn't stink. The manager stinks! I just don't know how to set a freaking football lineup.

Had I played wither Rothlisberger or Peterson you would be toast. You belong in the Cannuckian football league.

roscoe36
09-11-2007, 09:25 PM
Doug Flutie played in the Canuckian Football League. As did Warren Moon and Jeff Garcia.

Don't mess with :canada:

jammertime
09-11-2007, 09:55 PM
Doug Flutie played in the Canuckian Football League. As did Warren Moon and Jeff Garcia.

Yeah, and former Detroit Lions great and future Hall of Famer Mike McMahon.

Ozarkruffrider
09-12-2007, 12:56 AM
I got Ookied!

TheeTFD
09-12-2007, 05:29 PM
How's your daddy?

Ozarkruffrider
09-13-2007, 01:37 AM
Dead and ashes 24 years ago.

BillLaimbeer
09-17-2007, 08:57 PM
Darth, it looks like you need Bryan Westbrook to outscore Akers by 17 points tonight.

I need a combined 17 points out of Portis and Santana Moss to knock off Bezeach.

My son needs McNabb and Henderson to outscore Curtis by 10 points in order to defeat Dynamo.

There is a potential for 3 great finishes in the pf.com league. The other 3 matchups are complete. Jammertime and Woody both move to 2-0 like the DETROIT LIONS.

webz
09-18-2007, 04:37 AM
Jammer had a very good week. Your WR's went nuts. Still, I'm not too disappointed. If you score 115 fantasy points and still lose you know you aren't really doing anything wrong...

Jammer, you have a strong team. I guess that's what happens when you get no.1 pick... :gun1::pound:

jammertime
09-23-2007, 03:21 PM
I'm going to get BLOWN OUT this week. :gun1:

Darth Tater
09-23-2007, 03:44 PM
I've played the top 3 of 4 scoring teams in my first 3 weeks and paid for it with an 0-2 record. I played well the 2nd week though.

Today Brian Westbrook ALREADY has got me an unbelievable 38 fantasy points at the half, so it looks like I may be able to move to 1-2.

Anyone want Reggie Bush? I need a stud receiver and I have Adrian Peterson and Westbrook as my backs already.

BillLaimbeer
09-23-2007, 05:09 PM
Darth, your team is out of control today. Even your kicker is on fire. I'll take Reggie Bush off your hands, by the way.

Darth Tater
09-23-2007, 05:35 PM
Darth, your team is out of control today. Even your kicker is on fire. I'll take Reggie Bush off your hands, by the way.

Yeah, my guys finally realized they have to score 150 points to beat the teams they are playing.

I'll know more about Bush's value after this weekend. It's not that I want to dump him, but I feel weak at the receiver position and strong at running back.

Well...I do have one stud receiver (Boldin)...despite your kid's efforts to relieve me of that burden.:pound:

BillLaimbeer
09-23-2007, 06:03 PM
Well...I do have one stud receiver (Boldin)...despite your kid's efforts to relieve me of that burden.:pound:

Did he make you a trade offer? LOL

Darth Tater
09-23-2007, 06:24 PM
Did he make you a trade offer? LOL

Yeah. Reggie Brown and Devrey Henderson for Boldin. :hand:

I don't know if he thinks we'll really accept these offers or if he knows there is always a chance somebody will push the accept button by mistake :MusicBigGrin:. It's been known to happen, but I am super careful. Tell him to try it out on somebody who is always drunk:burp:...like Jammer. :pound:

jammertime
09-23-2007, 06:31 PM
Yeah. Reggie Brown and Devrey Henderson for Boldin. :hand:

I don't know if he thinks we'll really accept these offers or if he knows there is always a chance somebody will push the accept button by mistake :MusicBigGrin:. It's been known to happen, but I am super careful. Tell him to try it out on somebody who is always drunk:burp:...like Jammer. :pound:
Sure, I'll gladly trade him Boldin for Reggie Brown and Devrey Henderson. Just have him send me the 2 players and then I'll transfer Boldin to his team from Tater's roster. Oh, the benefits of being commissioner....

Anyone else want to make a trade with me for one of Darth's players? Westbrook is on the block.

Darth Tater
09-23-2007, 06:53 PM
Sure, I'll gladly trade him Boldin for Reggie Brown and Devrey Henderson. Just have him send me the 2 players and then I'll transfer Boldin to his team from Tater's roster. Oh, the benefits of being commissioner....

Anyone else want to make a trade with me for one of Darth's players? Westbrook is on the block.


:rofl:You are such an arse...

but just in case, just remember I can send you Superstarov's Tom Poti for your Sidney Crosby! :cheerlie-GOAL:

BillLaimbeer
09-23-2007, 07:03 PM
Yeah. Reggie Brown and Devrey Henderson for Boldin. :hand:

I don't know if he thinks we'll really accept these offers or if he knows there is always a chance somebody will push the accept button by mistake :MusicBigGrin:. It's been known to happen, but I am super careful. Tell him to try it out on somebody who is always drunk:burp:...like Jammer. :pound:

Perhaps he thought you were the only one who would fall for something like that....

Darth Tater
09-23-2007, 07:04 PM
Perhaps he thought you were the only one who would fall for something like that....

Looking at my record, I can't say I blame him.

jammertime
09-23-2007, 07:12 PM
:rofl:You are such an arse...

but just in case, just remember I can send you Superstarov's Tom Poti for your Sidney Crosby! :cheerlie-GOAL:

Well had you given me the #1 pick like I paid you to, I would already have Sidney Crosby on my team. But since my first pick was like #350, I already ended up with Tom Poti.

Darth Tater
09-23-2007, 07:21 PM
Well had you given me the #1 pick like I paid you to, I would already have Sidney Crosby on my team. But since my first pick was like #350, I already ended up with Tom Poti.

I thought you got the first pick. That's right, Super got it...senility ain't pretty.

BillLaimbeer
09-23-2007, 07:29 PM
I thought you got the first pick. That's right, Super got it...senility ain't pretty.

Jammer only gets the first pick in leagues that he fixes is the commissioner.

jammertime
09-23-2007, 08:02 PM
Jammer only gets the first pick in leagues that he fixes is the commissioner.
Exactly. If I don't get the 1st pick, clearly the draft is broken, so I just fix it.

jammertime
09-24-2007, 09:14 AM
We've had our highest and lowest scoring totals so far this year in week #3 as well as a couple of very close match-ups and a couple of blowouts.

Darth's 141.96 is a very impressive total, while Oz's 34.74 is the lowest completed week total I think I've ever seen (sorry Oz). Darth's Brian Westbrook alone, with 40.1 points, had more than Oz's entire team.

Bezeach needs a career game from Marquis Colston and for Deuce McAllister to lay an egg to edge Thee. While I need 10.33 points for Drew Brees tonight to beat Mikhail in the only other undecided match-up and join Laimbeer and #1Pistonfan as the only remaining undefeated teams in the league.

BillLaimbeer
09-24-2007, 11:02 AM
Woody's Ronnie Brown put up 41.1 points (211 yards, 3 TDs, 1 PAT). Unfortunately for Woody, he was on the bench. Woody's 6 guys on his bench put up 91.24 points, enough to beat about half the teams in the league.

Woody
09-24-2007, 04:31 PM
RIGHT!!!

I learned two things this week: 1) I have a pretty good team: 2) I'm a very poor manager.:toilet:

As Bill noted, my bench is really good!! Unfortunately, I dropped Kitna in favor of Delhomme, and Ronnie Brown is favor of Deshawn Wynn. If I had just left my starters from the first two weeks in the lineup for the third week, I would have had about 150 points and be WAY out in front.

It probably won't be the last mistake I make! :pound::pound::pound:

mikhail1973
09-24-2007, 06:12 PM
RIGHT!!!

I learned two things this week: 1) I have a pretty good team: 2) I'm a very poor manager.:toilet:

As Bill noted, my bench is really good!! Unfortunately, I dropped Kitna in favor of Delhomme, and Ronnie Brown is favor of Deshawn Wynn. If I had just left my starters from the first two weeks in the lineup for the third week, I would have had about 150 points and be WAY out in front.

It probably won't be the last mistake I make! :pound::pound::pound:
I wish I had the same dilemma. I have nobody to chose from to improve my team. :MusicBigGrin:

TheeTFD
09-24-2007, 08:27 PM
I fixed one thing but completely forgot another.
QB is still your biggest point maker.

BillLaimbeer
09-24-2007, 10:37 PM
While I need 10.33 points for Drew Brees tonight to beat Mikhail in the only other undecided match-up and join Laimbeer and #1Pistonfan as the only remaining undefeated teams in the league.

You would think 10.33 points for Drew Brees would be darn near automatic....

Half-way through the 2nd quarter, Brees has -0.76 points. I wonder if Jammer is getting a little nervous...:cold:

jammertime
09-24-2007, 10:47 PM
You would think 10.33 points for Drew Brees would be darn near automatic....

Half-way through the 2nd quarter, Brees has -0.76 points. I wonder if Jammer is getting a little nervous...:cold:
Brees has been absolutely GARBAGE so far this year. Luckily he has a bye week next week. Matt Hasselbeck here we come! Heck, at this point, I'd rather start Elisabeth Hasselbeck over Brees.

Darth Tater
09-24-2007, 10:49 PM
You would think 10.33 points for Drew Brees would be darn near automatic....

Half-way through the 2nd quarter, Brees has -0.76 points. I wonder if Jammer is getting a little nervous...:cold:

I think he is VERY nervous. I looked on the baseball fantasy league just now & noticed that he and Woody made a couple of acquisitions today. TODAY! :nerd2:I mean, nice pick ups but we set our lineups weekly on Sunday for the following week and the season ends this Sunday, so I have no clue what they are thinking. This isn't a keeper league. Yeah...he's nervous.:nailbiting::pound::pound::pound:

jammertime
09-24-2007, 11:13 PM
I think he is VERY nervous. I looked on the baseball fantasy league just now & noticed that he and Woody made a couple of acquisitions today. TODAY! :nerd2:I mean, nice pick ups but we set our lineups weekly on Sunday for the following week and the season ends this Sunday, so I have no clue what they are thinking. This isn't a keeper league. Yeah...he's nervous.:nailbiting::pound::pound::pound:
I'm not sure why it showed up for today, because I made the moves last night. They are in my starting lineup for this week. Didn't have much of a choice since Vernon Wells and Troy Glaus are both done for the season.

Your boy Reggie Bush just screwed me big time Darth. Saints had the ball 1st and goal from the 1. Brees throws to Bush in the end zone for an easy TD and the ball goes RIGHT THROUGH HIS HANDS. Would have been an easy TD and 6 points for Brees. Next play Bush runs it in for the TD. Gee, thanks.

P.S. I think you should be much more worried about your team than mine. But thanks for all the attention.

Darth Tater
09-24-2007, 11:18 PM
I'm not sure why it showed up for today, because I made the moves last night. They are in my starting lineup for this week. Didn't have much of a choice since Vernon Wells and Troy Glaus are both done for the season.

Your boy Reggie Bush just screwed me big time Darth. Saints had the ball 1st and goal from the 1. Brees throws to Bush in the end zone for an easy TD and the ball goes RIGHT THROUGH HIS HANDS. Would have been an easy TD and 6 points for Brees. Next play Bush runs it in for the TD. Gee, thanks.

P.S. I think you should be much more worried about your team than mine. But thanks for all the attention.


My team has scored pretty good points except for week one. I could easily be 2-1. That's why I don't like fantasy football too much. Webz had an awesome week but because I was the only team that had more than him, he comes away with nothing.

Reggie Bush. Well, I'm glad he screwed you. :pound: I'm still taking offers on him.

Best offer...if it's good, can have him. I need a receiver...I already have some garbage ones & mediocre ones. I need another good one. Bush is merely serving as insurance on my team.

BillLaimbeer
09-24-2007, 11:22 PM
I think he is VERY nervous. I looked on the baseball fantasy league just now & noticed that he and Woody made a couple of acquisitions today. TODAY! :nerd2:I mean, nice pick ups but we set our lineups weekly on Sunday for the following week and the season ends this Sunday, so I have no clue what they are thinking. This isn't a keeper league. Yeah...he's nervous.:nailbiting::pound::pound::pound:

I think Woody was countering Jammer's non-moves with non-moves of his own. It's a great 7 vs. 10 matchup to wrap up the season. :pound:

jammertime
09-24-2007, 11:29 PM
My team has scored pretty good points except for week one. I could easily be 2-1. That's why I don't like fantasy football too much. Webz had an awesome week but because I was the only team that had more than him, he comes away with nothing.
I thought you didn't like fantasy football because you suck, but I guess it's because you're in denial.

Reggie Bush. Well, I'm glad he screwed you. :pound:
Yeah, somehow I didn't think you'd be losing any sleep over it. :gun1:


I think Woody was countering Jammer's non-moves with non-moves of his own. It's a great 7 vs. 10 matchup to wrap up the season. :pound:
Laugh it up Laimbeer, laugh it up.

Now if you kids will excuse me, I have a 2nd half to worry about watch. :sssh:

BillLaimbeer
09-24-2007, 11:43 PM
Drew Brees with two passes that get stopped right at the goal line...only to see Reggie Bush eventually run it in for the score. It must hurt to see Brees miss out on those TDs. That's got to be painful to watch, Jammer. :pound:

jammertime
09-24-2007, 11:45 PM
Drew Brees with two passes that get stopped right at the goal line...only to see Reggie Bush eventually run it in for the score. It must hurt to see Brees miss out on those TDs. That's got to be painful to watch, Jammer. :pound:
Tell me about it!!!!

Darth Tater
09-24-2007, 11:57 PM
I thought you didn't like fantasy football because you suck




Well, yeah...that too...:pound:

OK, two td's for Bush. Somebody offer me a stud receiver...TFD? Who has Steve Smith? Chad Johnson? I hate T.O. and Moss...

jammertime
09-25-2007, 01:16 AM
Wow, great performance by Brees tonight. 0 TDs, 4 INTS and a fumble lost. I'm no math wiz, but I'm pretty sure that doesn't add up to 10.33 points.

TheeTFD
09-25-2007, 10:19 AM
I need an elite QB or RB, Texaco Burress might be for trade.

Darth Tater
09-25-2007, 10:26 AM
I need an elite QB or RB, Texaco Burress might be for trade.

Burress is an MSU boy...hmmm...

webz
09-27-2007, 02:41 PM
[quote=Darth Tater;112965]My team has scored pretty good points except for week one. I could easily be 2-1. That's why I don't like fantasy football too much. Webz had an awesome week but because I was the only team that had more than him, he comes away with nothing.
[\quote]

haha yeah. tell me about it! nobody in the league has amassed more points than me so far yet i am 1-2. :frusty:

i'm planning on knocking off ookie this week. i will show that his team is not representative of his 3-0 record.

mikhail1973
09-27-2007, 02:55 PM
Hey, I won a game. This is my first. Do I get to keep the gameball?

TheeTFD
09-30-2007, 11:58 AM
Jammertime is the "Viagra high score of the week".

Darth Tater
09-30-2007, 01:13 PM
Man...I checked to set my lineup last night and I have a doubtful and two questionables, and two of them are my best players. :yellowprison: Plus I couldn't really replace them due to other injuries and byes!

I HATE fantasy football!!!! :stirthepot:

BillLaimbeer
09-30-2007, 02:18 PM
Man...I checked to set my lineup last night and I have a doubtful and two questionables, and two of them are my best players. :yellowprison: Plus I couldn't really replace them due to other injuries and byes!

I HATE fantasy football!!!! :stirthepot:

Is that your long-winded way of saying "I suck"? :pound:

Darth Tater
09-30-2007, 02:25 PM
Is that your long-winded way of saying "I suck"? :pound:

No, Bill. I wasn't even insinuating that YOU suck! :MusicBigGrin:

But you guys just go and enjoy this. Looks like you forum guys will finally be able to split a championship amongst you...assuming your little offspring doesn't take it...which he may. :gun1:

Darth Tater
09-30-2007, 05:02 PM
Great job by Romo, Mikhail.:) He is single handedly beating me. I sure wish you hadn't grabbed him before I could. :smiley-poker:




Oh well, looks like Roscoe :canada:was right....I can't win them all. No problem...I'm looking forward to playing the spoiler this year if I don't make it in to the playoffs.



I guess I'll just go drown my "sorrow" in the pf.com baseball championship I will officially win in a couple hours.
:party2::dancingparty::dance::first:

TheeTFD
09-30-2007, 05:41 PM
I may need to play other fantasy just to chill Tate out.

jammertime
09-30-2007, 07:11 PM
Jammertime is the "Viagra high score of the week".
Dude, I have no idea what you're talking about. Is that a good thing?

Darth Tater
09-30-2007, 07:26 PM
Dude, I have no idea what you're talking about. Is that a good thing?

On the league page, Viagra has an ad right under our matchups that lists the high scorer of the week.

Last week my name was there after I scored 140 plus points.

For some reason, I checked after TFD pointed out that your name was there. I don't know why, but it was there before the games even started. I just now checked and you are still there. It's listed in blue.

I'd make a comment, but it's just too easy! :sssh::pound:

Darth Tater
09-30-2007, 09:23 PM
Hey, I'm still in this thing. My scrub patrol got me a 12 point lead. Now let's see if I can hold it tonight with Mikhail's Lion Killer Kevin Curtis going up against my scrub replacement (Buckhalter) for the other Lion killer Westbrook.

I like having a chance. It's even more fun than rooting against Jammer.

TheeTFD
09-30-2007, 09:29 PM
I should've won it the first week. But I didn't see it.
High Fantasy score...you get the oscar. ;-}

mikhail1973
09-30-2007, 11:34 PM
Great job by Romo, Mikhail.:) He is single handedly beating me. I sure wish you hadn't grabbed him before I could. :smiley-poker:




Oh well, looks like Roscoe :canada:was right....I can't win them all. No problem...I'm looking forward to playing the spoiler this year if I don't make it in to the playoffs.



I guess I'll just go drown my "sorrow" in the pf.com baseball championship I will officially win in a couple hours.
:party2::dancingparty::dance::first:
Romo was my auto-draft. The rest of my guys stink. I shouldn't get much from all others.

jammertime
09-30-2007, 11:36 PM
Romo was my auto-draft. The rest of my guys stink. I shouldn't get much from all others.
I'll trade you one of them for Drew Brees.

mikhail1973
10-01-2007, 01:29 PM
I'll trade you one of them for Drew Brees.
I think I'm all set at quarterback at this point.
:MusicBigGrin:

Woody
10-01-2007, 03:21 PM
I THINK I'VE GOT LAIMBEER CORNERED.

I have more points than he has already, and I've got three more chances tonight and he has none.

I'll be MOVIN' ON UP!!!

:gun1::gun1::gun1:

P. S. Maybe I can catch Tater in the Viagra Bowl. :)

BillLaimbeer
10-01-2007, 04:01 PM
I THINK I'VE GOT LAIMBEER CORNERED.

I have more points than he has already, and I've got three more chances tonight and he has none.

I'll be MOVIN' ON UP!!!

:gun1::gun1::gun1:

P. S. Maybe I can catch Tater in the Viagra Bowl. :)

Your defense could always score negative points tonight and you could slide backwards and still lose. It ain't over to Jammertime sings....

jammertime
10-01-2007, 04:08 PM
Bill is right (about possibly getting negative points, not about me being a fat lady). Loot at Drew Brees last week. All I needed was 10 lousy points from him and he puts up NEGATIVE points for the game.

Good luck tonight Winlesss, break a leg. Literally. Preferably Carson Palmers. In the first quarter. After throwing 3 INTs.

Woody
10-01-2007, 07:06 PM
WELL:

It IS over!!!

Even if the Pats defense scores negative points, I've still got Wes Welker and Housmandeh (sp). Either one or both will do just fine.

Your undefeated season is only a memory!! And you have so few points that your 3-1 record may put you in about 6th place. Seems like an appropriate level. :stirthepot:

:gun1::gun1::)

Winless Wonders
10-01-2007, 07:35 PM
Bill is right (about possibly getting negative points, not about me being a fat lady). Loot at Drew Brees last week. All I needed was 10 lousy points from him and he puts up NEGATIVE points for the game.

Good luck tonight Winlesss, break a leg. Literally. Preferably Carson Palmers. In the first quarter. After throwing 3 INTs.


It is going to be a close one. If it is a high scoring game it is going to be a win win for me.:)

jammertime
10-01-2007, 07:55 PM
It is going to be a close one. If it is a high scoring game it is going to be a win win for me.:)
Not if the Pats kicker gets all of their points!

BillLaimbeer
10-01-2007, 09:54 PM
Mikhail, I see you picked up Joey Harrington. I know it's humiliating getting beat by Darth, but picking up Joey. Nothing like throwing in the towel after the 4th week. :pound:

jammertime
10-01-2007, 09:58 PM
Woo Hoo, 3 points for my kicker to zippo for Carson "Arnold" Palmer. Let's go my kicker guy, who's name I don't know!

jammertime
10-07-2007, 08:57 PM
Drew Brees is officially available... for CHEAP.

webz
10-08-2007, 03:14 AM
i'm trying to make changes to my team for next week (ie. pick up FA's and drop someone on my team) but it keeps saying i've already set this weeks lineup. its starting to p!#$ me off. i see other people making moves, why can't i????! when can i drop someone who has been in this weeks lineup?

TheeTFD
10-08-2007, 10:15 AM
You can't do it during the game Web. You should've been going to your Week 6 lineup.

jammertime
10-09-2007, 09:27 PM
Uh oh, looks like someone has been reading the front page of the Yahoo fantasy sports website.

Nice pickup of Olsen Tater! Now where would you get an idea like that? :pound:

Fantasy on Yahoo! Sports - News, Scores, Standings, Rumors, Fantasy Games (http://sports.yahoo.com/fantasy)

Darth Tater
10-09-2007, 09:35 PM
Uh oh, looks like someone has been reading the front page of the Yahoo fantasy sports website.

Nice pickup of Olsen Tater! Now where would you get an idea like that? :pound:

Fantasy on Yahoo! Sports - News, Scores, Standings, Rumors, Fantasy Games (http://sports.yahoo.com/fantasy)

I actually saw him as the leading available tight end when I checked last night. I was going to grab him for Gates' bye week in week 7, but once I saw he made front page I figured I'd better go grab him in week 6. In all likelihood, I'll dump him after Gates has his bye.

He is merely filler for the bye.

BillLaimbeer
10-09-2007, 10:58 PM
I actually saw him as the leading available tight end when I checked last night. I was going to grab him for Gates' bye week in week 7, but once I saw he made front page I figured I'd better go grab him in week 6. In all likelihood, I'll dump him after Gates has his bye.

He is merely filler for the bye.

Why is Olsen a good pick-up? Three of the first five weeks he has received ZERO yards. He doesn't even start. Is Desmond Clark injured?

TheeTFD
10-11-2007, 01:08 PM
All I know is my kicker got me 23 points.

TheeTFD
10-13-2007, 07:07 PM
All I know is my kicker got me 23 points.

81 vs 81 and I drafted both. I wonder if they'll cancel each other out, or devastate the league with fantasy points. Dallas vs New England 5 and 0 vs 5 and 0 ...gitcha popcorn.

jammertime
10-14-2007, 01:56 PM
Alright. Due to injuries and bye weeks, I'm looking to make a trade. What I'm looking for in order of need:
1. WR
2. RB (low priority, just need someone to fill in for a week)
3. TE (bye week filler)

Guys I'm looking to move in a deal: Specifically, either one of my QBs. I would also consider moving anyone not named Donald Driver, LT, Edge, Winslow or Andre Johnson.

If you're interested, let me know.

Woody
10-14-2007, 05:05 PM
Good God, Jammer, that's the ugliest team I've ever seen. How in the world did you get so far up in the league??

You make my scrubs look good. You listed your untouchables. The rest of your guys couldn't beat Michigan!

:pound::pound:

#1Pistonfan
10-14-2007, 06:30 PM
Alright. Due to injuries and bye weeks, I'm looking to make a trade. What I'm looking for in order of need:
1. WR
2. RB (low priority, just need someone to fill in for a week)
3. TE (bye week filler)

Guys I'm looking to move in a deal: Specifically, either one of my QBs. I would also consider moving anyone not named Donald Driver, LT, Edge, Winslow or Andre Johnson.

If you're interested, let me know.

I have Chad Johnson I'm willing to part with but not for anyone other than those players you just mentioned. I would need EDGE or LT and I like Andre Johnson. My TE's (Tony Gonzalez & Heath Miller) are also available (if I could take Winslow). My only untouchables would be Braylon Edwards, MJD and Addai.

BillLaimbeer
10-14-2007, 07:32 PM
I have Chad Johnson I'm willing to part with but not for anyone other than those players you just mentioned. I would need EDGE or LT and I like Andre Johnson. My TE's (Tony Gonzalez & Heath Miller) are also available (if I could take Winslow). My only untouchables would be Braylon Edwards, MJD and Addai.

Addai is out for the season. You should just drop him.

jammertime
10-14-2007, 08:34 PM
Good God, Jammer, that's the ugliest team I've ever seen. How in the world did you get so far up in the league??

You make my scrubs look good. You listed your untouchables. The rest of your guys couldn't beat Michigan!

:pound::pound:
You're kidding right? Your team would be awesome if we were playing the in the "All Backup League". I'd rather take points from 1 of my starters than all of yours combined.

Yeah, my "untouchables" also happen to make up 5 of the 7 skill positions. I'm perfectly happy with my team. I'm only looking to fill a few short term holes due to injury and bye weeks next week.

I'd put my starters up against anyone's in our league.

jammertime
10-14-2007, 08:36 PM
I have Chad Johnson I'm willing to part with but not for anyone other than those players you just mentioned. I would need EDGE or LT and I like Andre Johnson. My TE's (Tony Gonzalez & Heath Miller) are also available (if I could take Winslow). My only untouchables would be Braylon Edwards, MJD and Addai.
I'm not really looking to make a major move, just something to hold me over for a week or 2. Adding Chad Johnson would be great, but I'd have to give up to much to get him.

I'm happy with Winslow at TE. I'm not looking to trade or upgrade him. Just someone to start next week while he has his bye.

Edge, Johnson, Winslow and LT (and his 4 TDs today) aren't going anywhere.

Woody
10-15-2007, 01:26 PM
Jammer:

Of course I'm kidding (sort of). Isn't that what smack is all about??

Your top 7 guys are awesome.

So far, my #2 QB is out for the season (Dehlomme), my top RB has a bad hammie, as does my TE, and one of my WR has a bad ankle.

So far, you have avoided the injury bug. But what if LT is hurt, Winslow goes down again, Hester gets flattened and your QB gets a concussion?

You'll be participating with me in the "All Backup League" :pound:

jammertime
10-15-2007, 06:09 PM
Of course I'm kidding (sort of). Isn't that what smack is all about??
I wouldn't know. I do my talking on the field. :MusicBigGrin:

So far, you have avoided the injury bug.
Not entirely, but overall not too bad. My WRs have been hit a bit. Andre Johnson, has missed the past 3 weeks, Santonio Holmes missed last week. Winslow has been slowed a bit by a separated shoulder.

But what if LT is hurt, Winslow goes down again, Hester gets flattened and your QB gets a concussion?
Then I'd still have Edgerrin James, DeShaun Foster and Fred Taylor at RB and a number of WRs to choose from. It's a little thing that I like to call "depth".

BillLaimbeer
10-16-2007, 10:56 AM
If there was a TV channel for Classic Fantasy Football Game Finishes, my matchup this week with Bup-Bup Bombs would be on it.

Heading into the Monday night game, Bup had a lead of 6.62. He had Plaxico Burress to play and I had Jerious Norwood. Burress had been averaging 14 points per game while Norwood less than 8. Could the part-time running back Norwood outscore Burress, the NFL leading TD receiver, by over 6 points?

Now, Norwood had been relegated to the bench all season as the Laimbeer Lions have a dominant backfield tandem of Clinton Portis and Marshawn Lynch. With Lynch on a Bye week, though, Norwood was thrust into action. Many a player would have sulked on the bench, complaing about PT and lack of blood flow. Not Norwood, though. He patiently bided his time and prepared himself for this very day.

It looked good early in the MNF game when Norwood raced for a 67-yard TD score to put the Laimbeer Lions ahead. But despite his manager, Burress is no slouch. He racked up 97 yards and a TD to give the Bup Bup Bombers a comfortable lead.

It seemed the game was over as Bup Bup had a 2.0 lead with just over 2 minutes to go in the game and the Giants taking possession of the ball. But no, the Giants go quickly 3-and-out and Joey Harrington goes into 2-minute drill mode. The Laimbeer Lions need 21 yards from Norwood to win the game. A quick 10-yard pass to Norwood and the gap is closing. Meanwhile, the clock is ticking and Joey is hitting other receivers. Another 6-yarder to Norwood and Laimbeer is just 5 yards away from winning. Finally, with just 13 seconds left on this meaningless drive, Joey connects to Norwood and the Laimbeer Lions take a 105.84-104.88 victory.

The game ball went to Norwood, of course, who put up 23.28 points, three times his normal production. MNF commentator Ron Jaworski said after the game, "Norwood came up big when he had to, but in a close game like this, it all boils down to coaching. And of course we all know there are none better than Laimbeer."

TheeTFD
10-17-2007, 12:29 PM
I was more impressed with Tates use of P. Clayton and W. Welker who are now out performing Owens and R. Moss.
We'll meet again Beer.

BillLaimbeer
10-17-2007, 02:31 PM
I was more impressed with Tates use of P. Clayton and W. Welker who are now out performing Owens and R. Moss.


Yea, even a blind squirrel finds an acorn every once in a while...

TheeTFD
10-17-2007, 02:38 PM
Actually Tate doesn't have Welker. But Clayton has turned into a monster.
I got 23 pt. from my kicker last week so turnabout is fair play.
Damn you.

BillLaimbeer
10-17-2007, 02:52 PM
Actually Tate doesn't have Welker. But Clayton has turned into a monster.
I got 23 pt. from my kicker last week so turnabout is fair play.
Damn you.

Did you watch the Monday Night game? At least this week I get to beat my kid....in fantasy football.

Woody
10-17-2007, 07:24 PM
I've got Welker and he's not going anywhere. He's mine and no one can have him.

I picked him up AFTER the draft, just before the season started. One of my few good moves! :):)

jammertime
10-17-2007, 07:34 PM
I've got Welker and he's not going anywhere. He's mine and no one can have him.

I picked him up AFTER the draft, just before the season started. One of my few good moves! :):)
I agree Woody. (Both about Welker being a good move and about you not making many of them.)

jammertime
10-17-2007, 07:36 PM
Bill,

That is one heck of a tempting offer. Give me a day to think about it and I'll get back to you tomorrow.

BillLaimbeer
10-17-2007, 11:23 PM
Bill,

That is one heck of a tempting offer. Give me a day to think about it and I'll get back to you tomorrow.

Food for thought: I guarantee the guy that I offered you will accumulate more points this week than the guy you would give up.

Jammertime: Deal or No Deal?

jammertime
10-18-2007, 12:16 AM
Jammertime: Deal or No Deal?
A deal like this really can't be rushed. This is the type of trade that can make or break a season. It's a "game changer". The winner of this trade will run away with the championship.

I might need a bit more time to think about it than I had originally thought. Leave the trade with me and I'll get back to you in about 11 weeks.

BillLaimbeer
10-18-2007, 12:33 AM
A deal like this really can't be rushed. This is the type of trade that can make or break a season. It's a "game changer". The winner of this trade will run away with the championship.

I might need a bit more time to think about it than I had originally thought. Leave the trade with me and I'll get back to you in about 11 weeks.

Like I said, this is a one-time offer. Get smart with me and I'll pull it off the table. I'm sure I can get somebody better than LT for my kicker anyway. I'll give you 24 hours. I don't usually like to negotiate in public, but you've forced my hand.

jammertime
10-18-2007, 12:42 AM
Like I said, this is a one-time offer. Get smart with me and I'll pull it off the table. I'm sure I can get somebody better than LT for my kicker anyway. I'll give you 24 hours. I don't usually like to negotiate in public, but you've forced my hand.
Fair enough, you called my bluff.

Based on my initial analysis of the trade, I'm leaning towards accepting. But I still have a bit more research and number crunching to do before I'm willing to make it official. I'm sure people will laugh at me for taking so long to pull the trigger, since this is about as close to a "no brainer" that there is in fantasy sports. But like I said, this is a MONSTER trade. I just want to make sure that all my i's are dotted and t's are crossed.

I'll get back to you within the 24 hour window. Please don't withdraw the offer!

mikhail1973
10-18-2007, 01:10 PM
My team sucks. I have nobody beyond Romo who consistently produces. I have no running back. I have no tight end. I can't win any games...

jammertime
10-18-2007, 06:30 PM
Bill,

After careful consideration, I've decided not to take you up on your trade offer. As commissioner of this league it is my duty to maintain a competitively equal playing field. For me to rob you blind in a trade for your absolute best kicker, for my over rated running back just wouldn't be fair to the rest of the league. LaDainian Tomlinson is barely fit to carry your kicker's jock strap, let alone to be traded straight up for him.

BillLaimbeer
10-18-2007, 08:37 PM
Bill,

After careful consideration, I've decided not to take you up on your trade offer. As commissioner of this league it is my duty to maintain a competitively equal playing field. For me to rob you blind in a trade for your absolute best kicker, for my over rated running back just wouldn't be fair to the rest of the league. LaDainian Tomlinson is barely fit to carry your kicker's jock strap, let alone to be traded straight up for him.

I thought you might feel that way. Your honesty and integrity is a shining example for all fantasy sports commissioners (cough, Darth, cough).

mikhail1973
10-19-2007, 02:51 AM
I thought you might feel that way. Your honesty and integrity is a shining example for all fantasy sports commissioners (cough, Darth, cough).

I can smell a suspension coming. And a fine.
:yellowprison:

TheeTFD
10-19-2007, 04:45 PM
I saw about 10 minutes. Just wanted to know if Plax scored, he did, so I thought I would win.
So now you get your jollies whippin' your kid...;-{

TheeTFD
10-19-2007, 05:25 PM
I get undefeated Ookie this week. The bigger they come the harder they fall.

BillLaimbeer
10-19-2007, 08:31 PM
I get my kid this week. I'm so confident, I'm putting Peyton Manning on my bench.

Darth Tater
10-19-2007, 08:56 PM
I get my kid this week. I'm so confident, I'm putting Peyton Manning on my bench.

Bill, you must be the luckiest team in the league. Poor Webz is the unluckiest.

I think this entire league sucks. If I'm in third place in FOOTBALL you guys must really stink!!! :pound:

BillLaimbeer
10-19-2007, 09:00 PM
Bill, you must be the luckiest team in the league. Poor Webz is the unluckiest.

I think this entire league sucks. If I'm in third place in FOOTBALL you guys must really stink!!! :pound:

What some people call lucky is really just a whole lot of talent.

mikhail1973
10-19-2007, 09:16 PM
Hey, my team blows. And I know it. That's what I get for missing the draft. :gun1:

jammertime
10-19-2007, 11:10 PM
Hey, my team blows. And I know it. That's what I get for missing the draft. :gun1:
Tater's team blows because he DID attend the draft. :pound:

mikhail1973
10-20-2007, 01:34 AM
Tater's team blows because he DID attend the draft. :pound:

I guess that means that I saved some time not doing the draft, huh? Actually, we were driving down to San Diego. Anyhow, this now looks like a wasted season, so I'm going to concentrate on my hockey league.

jammertime
10-20-2007, 10:18 PM
Woody, since I feel so sorry for you, I'm not going to play Kellen Winslow, Andre Johnson, Donald Driver or LT this week.

If you can't beat me this week, you never will. :stirthepot:

Woody
10-21-2007, 07:06 PM
Jammer:

Your lack of humility is only exceeded by that of Tater and Rush Limbaugh.

But, in any case, YOU'RE GOING DOWN!!!

:gun1::gun1::gun1:

webz
10-23-2007, 06:49 PM
Bill, you must be the luckiest team in the league. Poor Webz is the unluckiest.

I think this entire league sucks. If I'm in third place in FOOTBALL you guys must really stink!!! :pound:

looks that way. if this was a roto league iŽd be in first.

but i guess i made sure of it this week. 140 points SHOULD be enough to win most weeks.

jammertime
10-25-2007, 09:50 PM
I just noticed that Woody picked up Nick Folk. I didn't even realize you released him Bill! I can't believe that I could have had him for free! Talk about having a short leash in your dog house. He went from being potentially traded straight up for LT to out of the league in the matter of a week. :stirthepot:

BillLaimbeer
10-26-2007, 12:03 AM
I just noticed that Woody picked up Nick Folk. I didn't even realize you released him Bill! I can't believe that I could have had him for free! Talk about having a short leash in your dog house. He went from being potentially traded straight up for LT to out of the league in the matter of a week. :stirthepot:

Jammer, we're battling in both hockey and football this week. May the best man (or Canadian) win.

BillLaimbeer
10-26-2007, 10:20 AM
I just noticed that Woody picked up Nick Folk. I didn't even realize you released him Bill! I can't believe that I could have had him for free! Talk about having a short leash in your dog house. He went from being potentially traded straight up for LT to out of the league in the matter of a week. :stirthepot:


Speaking of LT, I just heard from a reliable source that he tweaked his foot in practice yesterday. The Chargers are keeping this hush-hush, but as a courtesy to a friend, I thought I should warn you. As a precaution, you really should put LT on your Bench for this week. I couldn't bare beating you with a good conscience if I didn't pass this information on to you.

Darth Tater
10-26-2007, 10:37 AM
Does Yahoo have a good sportsmanship award?

If so, I would like to nominate Bill Laimbeer to receive it. He does this sort of thing all the time and in every fantasy sports league he is in.

I really think they should do one of those "Great American Hero" Beer ads for him.

This ones for you "Mr. Fantasy sports helper outer...":pound:

BillLaimbeer
10-26-2007, 01:46 PM
Does Yahoo have a good sportsmanship award?

If so, I would like to nominate Bill Laimbeer to receive it. He does this sort of thing all the time and in every fantasy sports league he is in.

I really think they should do one of those "Great American Hero" Beer ads for him.

This ones for you "Mr. Fantasy sports helper outer...":pound:

That's a kind thought, but I'm not in this for the personal acclimades.

jammertime
10-26-2007, 04:46 PM
That's a kind thought, but I'm not in this for the personal acclimades.
Yeah, or the accolades. ;)

TheeTFD
10-27-2007, 04:58 PM
I heard LT received a Civil War wound and had to have foot amputated...something about "gangreen"

Darth Tater
10-28-2007, 12:48 PM
Good match up today as the Taters have won five in a row to move to 5-2. They play Woody's 5-2 boys. Looks to be very evenly matched. Too close to make a prediction.

In other action, Laimbeer's lucky ducks take on corrupt Commisioner Jammerstern's ladies. Will Lambsluck hold even against a cheater?

Don't be too surprised if Winless' 2-5 bunch knocks off undefeated Ookie.

Webz' cursed team should have an easy time with Oz. No first win this week for Ozzie.

Bup bup should destroy Lambs kid,but Yahoo predicts a victory for the kid this week. Maybe another close one?

Bezeach & Dynamo...sorry guys, I ain't even wasting cyberspace predicting this UGLY battle. First one to 40 points wins. :pound:

TheeTFD
10-28-2007, 06:35 PM
Plax didn't score again and Owens is a bye. Gonna be tight.

jammertime
10-29-2007, 08:56 AM
Jammer, we're battling in both hockey and football this week. May the best man (or Canadian) win.
Unless Driver gets -12.72 points tonight, it looks like we're going to split our match-up this week with you taking hockey 4-3-5 and me beating you (by a much wider margin might I add) in football.

Congratulations on splitting the series against a far superior opponent Bill. You were able to hang with the "big boys" for awhile, but eventually the cream rose to the top. :stirthepot:

BillLaimbeer
10-29-2007, 10:22 AM
Unless Driver gets -12.72 points tonight, it looks like we're going to split our match-up this week with you taking hockey 4-3-5 and me beating you (by a much wider margin might I add) in football.

Congratulations on splitting the series against a far superior opponent Bill. You were able to hang with the "big boys" for awhile, but eventually the cream rose to the top. :stirthepot:

We'll see about the cream rising to the top. It's a marathon, not a sprint. When the going gets tough, the tough get going. My guys are just playing it one play at a time. They are going to give 110% until the fat lady sings. There is no "I" in "team". The road to the Super Bowl goes through Laimbeer. We just need to take care of the ball and go out and execute. Once we establish our running game, it will open things up for the air attack. We had our chances, but we let it slip away. We beat ourselves. I'm really proud of the way our guys hung in there.

roscoe36
10-29-2007, 10:36 AM
This site is awesome.

The Sports Cliche List - sports cliches, jargon, and lingo (http://www.sportscliche.com/)

Darth Tater
10-30-2007, 12:40 AM
Too bad Woody...NOT. Taters move to 6-2.

How come your only hope, albeit slim, only ran for one play tonight in regulation?

Next week there will be no tater tots for dinner. We are having pure meat. The main course? Why...Laim chops of course. :hungry:

Bill, you will need your best cliches for this one.

Darth Tater
11-04-2007, 06:54 PM
Bill, it just figures I had to play you the one week of the season where you score 150 bajillion points. :laugh:

Even Adrian Peterson's great day doesn't look like it will be enough for me.

Oh well...sometimes you get the Laim BEAR and sometimes the Laim BEAR gets you! :)

BillLaimbeer
11-04-2007, 07:33 PM
Bill, it just figures I had to play you the one week of the season where you score 150 bajillion points. :laugh:

Even Adrian Peterson's great day doesn't look like it will be enough for me.

Oh well...sometimes you get the Laim BEAR and sometimes the Laim BEAR gets you! :)

My team is fizzling out. I think you got me. I've just got a bad luck team...

webz
11-04-2007, 08:04 PM
My team is fizzling out. I think you got me. I've just got a bad luck team...


Your running backs killed it today Bills.

My matchup with Woody is a close one. Both my RB's play each other on Monday against top defenses. It may come down to the other positions deciding this one like TE, DEF and K.

I need this win to keep pace with the top teams.

TheeTFD
11-04-2007, 09:25 PM
looks like Jamm is gonna get me this week ...Brees 4 tds

Woody
11-04-2007, 09:49 PM
WEBZ:

I AM one of the top teams.

:gun1::gun1::gun1:

webz
11-04-2007, 10:32 PM
WEBZ:

I AM one of the top teams.

:gun1::gun1::gun1:

I know that. But I am trying to make up lost ground after some unlucky losses early in the season. I got Bill next week with Brady on a bye, and he has a very good team.
These 2 weeks will either see me safely entrenched in the top 6, or having to mess with the scrappy teams reaching for the playoffs.

Ozarkruffrider
11-05-2007, 04:57 PM
Ok, I have a crappy team, but y'all laughed big time when I picked the Lions Defense:

QB Brett Favre (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/1025)
(GB - QB) http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/fn/default/note_2.gif (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/1025/news)
@KC W, 33-22 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/recap?gid=20071104012) 16.77 22.30 WR Calvin Johnson (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8256)
(Det - WR) P http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/fn/default/note_2.gif (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8256/news)
Den W, 44-7 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/recap?gid=20071104008) 6.44 4.70 WR Hines Ward (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/4323)
(Pit - WR) http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/fn/default/note_2.gif (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/4323/news)
Bal Mon
7:30 pm (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/preview?gid=20071105023) 8.90 0.00 WR Dwayne Bowe (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8277)
(KC - WR)
GB L, 33-22 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/recap?gid=20071104012) 7.32 0.00 RB Thomas Jones (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5036)
(NYJ - RB)
Was L, 23-20 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/recap?gid=20071104020) 12.11 6.50 RB Larry Johnson (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6363)
(KC - RB) http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/fn/default/note_new.gif (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6363/news)
GB L, 33-22 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/recap?gid=20071104012) 16.22 21.50 TE Leonard Pope (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7821)
(Ari - TE)
@TB L, 17-10 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/recap?gid=20071104027) 2.34 0.00 K Jason Hanson (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/2034)
(Det - K) http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/fn/default/note_2.gif (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/2034/news)
Den W, 44-7 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/recap?gid=20071104008) 7.01 17.00 DEF Detroit (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/det)
(Det - DEF)
Den W, 44-7 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/recap?gid=20071104008) 7.79 29.00 Total 84.90 101.00

So far for the year: 105 points as opposed to the Eagles 50 pts

mikhail1973
11-05-2007, 05:21 PM
Ok, I have a crappy team, but y'all laughed big time when I picked the Lions Defense:

QB Brett Favre (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/1025)
(GB - QB) http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/fn/default/note_2.gif (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/1025/news)
@KC W, 33-22 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/recap?gid=20071104012) 16.77 22.30 WR Calvin Johnson (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8256)
(Det - WR) P http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/fn/default/note_2.gif (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8256/news)
Den W, 44-7 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/recap?gid=20071104008) 6.44 4.70 WR Hines Ward (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/4323)
(Pit - WR) http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/fn/default/note_2.gif (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/4323/news)
Bal Mon
7:30 pm (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/preview?gid=20071105023) 8.90 0.00 WR Dwayne Bowe (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8277)
(KC - WR)
GB L, 33-22 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/recap?gid=20071104012) 7.32 0.00 RB Thomas Jones (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5036)
(NYJ - RB)
Was L, 23-20 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/recap?gid=20071104020) 12.11 6.50 RB Larry Johnson (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6363)
(KC - RB) http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/fn/default/note_new.gif (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6363/news)
GB L, 33-22 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/recap?gid=20071104012) 16.22 21.50 TE Leonard Pope (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7821)
(Ari - TE)
@TB L, 17-10 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/recap?gid=20071104027) 2.34 0.00 K Jason Hanson (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/2034)
(Det - K) http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/fn/default/note_2.gif (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/2034/news)
Den W, 44-7 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/recap?gid=20071104008) 7.01 17.00 DEF Detroit (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/det)
(Det - DEF)
Den W, 44-7 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/recap?gid=20071104008) 7.79 29.00 Total 84.90 101.00

So far for the year: 105 points as opposed to the Eagles 50 pts
Detroit D + Hanson got me big time this week.

Darth Tater
11-05-2007, 10:54 PM
Holy Moly Lambs. I just checked the stats. Ben Rothelsberger threw three touchdowns and it's only halfway through the second.

The score is 140-132 your way. I've actually got a chance to pull this out...We'll see...Pitt may decide they are enough ahead to go to the run. I hope the Cowboys score.

jammertime
11-05-2007, 11:05 PM
Wow Thee, it looks like I may pull this one out. It's not even half time and Holmes already has 65 yards receiving and 2 TDs.

Oh, wait a second, I've already beat you. Never mind..... :stirthepot:

jammertime
11-05-2007, 11:06 PM
I hope the Cowboys score.
I wouldn't count on the Cowboys scoring again Darth. Their game ended yesterday. :pound:

webz
11-05-2007, 11:34 PM
Garrrrr!

I got Parker v McGahee as both my RB's against great run Defenses in the rain. They are only gaining 1 or 2 yards every run. I need 8-10 points from each guy to beat Woody.

However, the Pittsburgh DEF is my ace up the sleeve. A few more FR and Sacks and I'm in with a chance.

Darth Tater
11-05-2007, 11:49 PM
I wouldn't count on the Cowboys scoring again Darth. Their game ended yesterday. :pound:

Oops. FIVE first half TD passes for Roth!!!!!!!!!! 147 for Darth!
Wooo hoooooo!

webz
11-05-2007, 11:54 PM
Oops. FIVE first half TD passes for Roth!!!!!!!!!! 147 for Darth!
Wooo hoooooo!

Darth, do you have stat tracker for fantasy NFL? If so, would you mind checking the current score between me and Woody? Its gonna be too close to call.

Uh oh. Looks like Big Ben is out for count!

mikhail1973
11-06-2007, 12:18 AM
Darth, do you have stat tracker for fantasy NFL? If so, would you mind checking the current score between me and Woody? Its gonna be too close to call.

Uh oh. Looks like Big Ben is out for count!

You're up 101.7-95.12

webz
11-06-2007, 12:21 AM
You're up 101.7-95.12


thanks mikhail! much appreciated.

BillLaimbeer
11-06-2007, 12:37 AM
Oops. FIVE first half TD passes for Roth!!!!!!!!!! 147 for Darth!
Wooo hoooooo!

Congrats. Nice win. My team sucked. If I can't put up 150, I don't deserve to win.

webz
11-06-2007, 12:47 AM
Congrats. Nice win. My team sucked. If I can't put up 150, I don't deserve to win.

don't worry Bill, you aren't alone. Darth did the same thing to me in week 3. 141-131.

he somehow gets his guys to have good weeks against the top competition.

BillLaimbeer
11-06-2007, 07:44 AM
don't worry Bill, you aren't alone. Darth did the same thing to me in week 3. 141-131.

he somehow gets his guys to have good weeks against the top competition.

Thanks, Webz. I feel much better now.

mikhail1973
11-06-2007, 12:57 PM
Hey, I feel good too. I made sure we have no more winless teams.

TheeTFD
11-06-2007, 04:52 PM
last week to trade guys, NOV. 6 !!!

BillLaimbeer
11-07-2007, 03:31 PM
There have been some comments about some teams are lucky and others have had some bad luck. For example, last week my team put up 140 points and still lost. My son won one week and the score was 47-45.

So, the question is "Who has experienced good luck and who has been dealt with bad luck?".

First off, here are the current standings:

1. Ookie 9-0
2. Darth's Spartans 7-2
2. Jammer's Time 7-2
4. webz wreckerz 6-3
5. Woody's Marauders 5-4
5. Laimbeer's Lions 5-4
7. Bup-Bups-BomBs 4-5
7. Footballers 4-5
9. Winless Bruisers 3-6
10. Bezeach Blitz 2-7
11. Ozarkruffriders 1-8
11. Dynamo 1-8


Next, we have the teams sorted by total points scored:

1. webz wreckerz 1016.94
2. Darth's Spartans 986.94
3. Jammer's Time 958.82
4. Ookie 950.98
5. Bup-Bups-BomBs 892.08
6. Woody's Marauders 885.52
7. Laimbeer's Lions 844.84
8. Winless Bruisers 770.28
9. Ozarkruffriders 692.64
10. Dynamo 677.50
11. Footballers 672.44
12. Bezeach Blitz 657.78

Now for the crude analysis, simply comparing the standings based on win-loss versus total points:


These teams have experienced BAD LUCK:
webz w/most points, but only in 4th place
Bup-Bup w/5th most points, but only in 7th place
Oz w/9th most points, but only in 11th place


These teams have experienced GOOD LUCK:
Ookie w/4th most points, but in 1st place
Laimbeer w/7th most points, but in 5th place
Footballers w/11th most points, but in 7th place
Bezeach w/12th most points, but in 10th place


YOU GUYS ARE ABOUT WHERE YOU BELONG (win-loss standing, points standing):
Darth 2nd, 2nd
Jammer 2nd, 3rd
Woody 5th, 6th
Winless 9th, 8th
Dynamo 11th, 10th


Conclusion: WebZ is better than his 4th place standing indicates. Footballers is worse than his 7th place standing indicated.

mikhail1973
11-07-2007, 03:41 PM
Thanks for the review. However, I knew my team stinks without having someone else confirm it.
:MusicBigGrin:

webz
11-07-2007, 05:08 PM
Excellent analysis Bill. I remember back when I was 1-3 but was still first in overall points. Darth once mentioned to me this was a reason why football was his least favourite fantasy sport, and I think that makes sense. But I guess it's that unpredictability that makes it interesting as well.

Another analysis is to look at the score it would have taken to win each particular week. ie. Woody lost to Laimbeer 88.65-96.43. Therefore, it would taken Woody 96.44 points to win that week. Add all these totals together over the season and you'll get an idea who has had lucky matchups regardless of whether they won that week or not.

In order of least amount of points needed to win.
(total-average-actual position)

1. Footballers - 764.47 (84.94) -8th
2. Woody - 786.65 (87.40) -5th
3. Bezeach - 800.94 (88.99) -10th
4. Ookie - 810.83 (90.09) -1st
5. Jammer - 812.23 (90.24) -3rd
6. Winless - 822.83 (91.42) -9th
7. Bup-Bup - 825.53 (91.72) -7th
8. Darth - 833.25 (92.58) -2nd
9. Laimbeer - 846.65 (94.07) -6th
10. webz - 868.09 (96.45) -4th
11. Dynamo - 916.11 (101.79) -12th
12. Ozark - 921.24 (102.36) -11th

Looking at this you can see that on average per week, Ozark has needed to score 102.36 points just to score a win. Same with Dynamo, he has had to score over 100 points as well. So sure, you could say they have been the most unlucky, but you can't put that ALL down to luck because they are still only in 11th and 12th place.

Now look at Bezeach. You could say his team has underachieved because despite having the 3rd best time of things, is still only in 10th with 2 wins.
Footballers has had the best of it, only needing on average 84.94 points to win each week. That's 17.42 points less than Ozark to pick up a win. Another underachiever in only 8th place.

If we were to rank the teams in order of position difference between score needed to win and actual position it would look like this.

webz - 10th-4th (+6)
Darth - 8th-2nd (+6)
Laimbeer - 9th-6th (+3)
Ookie - 4th-1st (+3)
Jammer - 5th-3rd (+2)
Ozark - 12th-11th (+1)
Bup-Bup - 7th-7th (0)
Dynamo - 11th-12th (-1)
Winless - 6th-9th (-3)
Woody - 5th-2nd (-3)
Bezeach - 10th-3rd (-7)
Footballers - 8th-1st (-7)

Darth and webz are well ahead of the pack in terms of overcoming bad luck and adversity having +6.
Bezeach and Footballers have not performed despite having very good luck with -7.
So even though Ozark has had the worst luck in terms of score needed to win each week, he still has not performed as well as some other teams.

Woody
11-07-2007, 05:23 PM
Your analysis is interesting, but flawed!!

It doesn't take into account INJURIES!!!

Where would Darth be if Peterson got injured in the second game and was out for the season??? MY best runner, Ronnie Brown, went out for the season in the fourth game.

What would happen if Brady or Manning went out for the season?? Delhomme, my backup QB, went out in the second game.

Other teams have lost good players. The luckiest are the ones whose best players have made it through the season so far. The final result will probably be based on whose injury record is the best. The whole thing is a crapshoot!

:stirthepot::stirthepot::stirthepot:

mikhail1973
11-07-2007, 05:25 PM
Your analysis is interesting, but flawed!!

It doesn't take into account INJURIES!!!

Where would Darth be if Peterson got injured in the second game and was out for the season??? MY best runner, Ronnie Brown, went out for the season in the fourth game.

What would happen if Brady or Manning went out for the season?? Delhomme, my backup QB, went out in the second game.

Other teams have lost good players. The luckiest are the ones whose best players have made it through the season so far. The final result will probably be based on whose injury record is the best. The whole thing is a crapshoot!

:stirthepot::stirthepot::stirthepot:
:p_welldone::cheerlie-GOAL::party:

webz
11-07-2007, 05:47 PM
We can also look at how each team is doing against their luck.

Score needed vs Actual score
Ookie - 90.09 - 105.66 (+15.57)
Darth - 92.58 - 109.66 (+17.08)
Jammer - 90.24 - 106.53 (+16.29)
webz - 96.45 - 112.99 (+16.54)
Woody - 87.40 - 98.39 (+10.99)
Laimbeer - 94.07 - 93.07 (-1.0)
Bup-Bup - 91.72 - 99.12 (+7.4)
Footballers - 84.94 - 74.71 (-10.23)
Winless - 91.42 - 85.58 (-5.84)
Bezeach - 88.99 - 73.08 (-15.91)
Ozark - 102.36 - 76.96 (-25.40)
Dynamo - 101.79 - 75.27 (-26.52)

That actual +/- doesn't mean much except to each individual but I guess you could say Darth has the best rating in what could be described as "creating your own luck".
Because despite having the worst luck, Ozark and Dynamo aren't exactly helping their cause by only scoring in the mid-70's.

If everyone was to have Ozark's luck and need to average 102.36 every week to win, only these teams would be in a position to succeed.

webz - 112.99
Darth - 109.66
Jammer - 106.53
Ookie - 105.66

That said, if everyone received Footballers luck and only needed 84.94 points to win each week, these teams still aren't scoring enough points to succeed.

Bezeach - 73.08
Footballers - 74.71
Dynamo - 75.27
Ozark - 76.96

There you go. Some teams are luckier than others, but as is still and forever will be the case, the luck card cannot be used as an entire excuse for a poor ladder position.

webz
11-07-2007, 05:49 PM
Your analysis is interesting, but flawed!!

It doesn't take into account INJURIES!!!

Other teams have lost good players. The luckiest are the ones whose best players have made it through the season so far. The final result will probably be based on whose injury record is the best. The whole thing is a crapshoot!

:stirthepot::stirthepot::stirthepot:

Somewhat true. Perhaps you'd like to do your own analysis Woody. Seriously, I would be interested to see if you could come up with some research or numbers or ratings to work it out. It's probably impossible though.

But the injury thing is something that can be handled by excellent GM's. It is something that could have been planned for on day 1 - The Draft

Q. Did the Ronnie Brown owner also own his handcuff?
A. If they didn't handcuff their best RB - no sympathy from the experts

Q. Did the person draft enough backup's to take into account injuries based on position?
A. If they only drafted 2 RB's - no sympathy because it is an injury-prone position.

Q. Did the person draft an injury-prone player who ended up getting injured?
A. No sympathy from anyone on this.

While injuries are never going to help a team, it's not just a cut and dried thing of who gets the least injuries wins.

TheeTFD
11-07-2007, 07:16 PM
I've done better than last year, but out of the playoffs.

jammertime
11-07-2007, 08:12 PM
Wow, you guys have WAY too much time on your hands to be doing all of this analysis! :MusicBigGrin: Having said that, I have thoroughly enjoyed reading it!

I agree with your last post Webz, and would also add Bye Week Management into that draft planning.

Injuries can be a huge factor and can make or break a season. Some of it is bad luck, some of it is poor planning/depth. I've been lucky on the injury front other than at the WR position. I've been without my top WR, Andre Johnson for the last 7 games. Santonio Holmes has missed 1 game and back at the beginning of the year when I had him on my roster Eddie Kennison missed 1 game. None of my players at any other position have missed a game yet (knock on wood). Winslow had a dislocated shoulder in 1 game and missed the 2nd half, but that's it.

I'm not a huge fan of the head-to-head format to be honest with you. I think it can be very unfair and misleading. I much prefer a straight up points format where we compare apples to apples.

Who's the commissioner of this league anyway, I want to file a complaint! :gun1:

Darth Tater
11-07-2007, 08:25 PM
Great analyses by Laimbs & Webz. Very interesting and well thought out. :p_welldone::thumb[1]::hail::hail::hail:

BillLaimbeer
11-07-2007, 10:59 PM
I've done better than last year, but out of the playoffs.

It sounds like you're getting desperate, sending an email to my kid asking him to combine your two teams in a bogus trade effort in an attempt to beat the system.

Darth Tater
11-07-2007, 11:40 PM
It sounds like you're getting desperate, sending an email to my kid asking him to combine your two teams in a bogus trade effort in an attempt to beat the system.

I really hope that isn't true.

I'd like to believe that we all would show integrity...plus encouraging a little kid to cheat...is just wrong. :tsk:

jammertime
11-08-2007, 12:41 PM
I've been in dozens of fantasy leagues over the years and I can easily say that I've enjoyed PF.com leagues the best because of the dedication, integrity, high level of competition and camaraderie of the members involved.

I don't enjoy leagues where every single trade is scrutinized and the motives of each member are called into question. I've been in many of those types of leagues and it sucks.

Seemingly "unfair" or "unbalanced" trades happen in real life sports all the time. My feeling is that as long as both parties enter into the agreement with the right intentions, a trade should be allowed to stand, regardless of who supposedly "won" the trade. Because every GM in the league has a vested interest in the outcome of every trade (especially in head-to-head leagues like ours), it can sometimes skew our opinions of what constitutes a "fair" trade. If the guy you're matched up against next week suddenly gets better as the result of a trade, or the team you're chasing for the last playoff spot improves, that isn't necessarily unfair, it's just unfortunate.

I've been in leagues where teams intentionally "dump" their players to friends through lopsided trades, release highly ranked players and otherwise attempt to sabotage or skew the league results if their team isn't doing as well as they had hoped, if they're bitter about one of their trades being vetoed, etc. That ruins the league for everyone. In this league, such an attempt would be blocked and the GM(s) involved would be locked out.

I'm not saying that is happening in this instance. All I am saying is that I won't allow it to happen if a situation does arise. I enjoy our leagues, and respect each of you too much to allow that to happen.

I understand that it's possible to lose interest (especially if your team isn't doing to great), or that situations come up that prevent us from being able to continue our participation.

I ask that if something like that does come up, or if you suspect "foul play", to please send me a PM so that I can address it.

I look forward to continuing to kick your butts the rest of this season!

Commissioner Jammer Roger Goodell Time

TheeTFD
11-10-2007, 11:12 AM
desperate times call for desperate measures.
how does it feel knowing your sons team sucks?

BillLaimbeer
11-10-2007, 01:16 PM
desperate times call for desperate measures.
how does it feel knowing your sons team sucks?

My son is having a blast in his first year of fantasy sports. Having fun is what games are all about.

Even more important, at the age of 13, it appears that my son is already more of a man than you will ever be.

Darth Tater
11-10-2007, 02:01 PM
desperate times call for desperate measures.
how does it feel knowing your sons team sucks?


That's low. Please...let's not go there...

jammertime
11-10-2007, 11:40 PM
My son is having a blast in his first year of fantasy sports. Having fun is what games are all about.
I absolutely agree. Having fun is what it's all about. It's a free league with no prizes. Just a little friendly competition amongst friends.

I was in a fantasy baseball league this year in which I finished dead last out of 12 teams. About half the league (the bottom half) quit about half way through the season. So I was losing to guys that hadn't set their lineups in months. Yet I still played out the season to the very last day. I set my roster every day and picked up FAs when I felt that they were an upgrade to my team. I had 0% chance of catching any of the playoff teams for the final month of the season.

But I had fun and like I said, I tried until the very last day. At the end of the season, the commissioner of the league PM'd me and said that I could be in any league that he ever had because I never gave up and I played fair.

desperate times call for desperate measures.
how does it feel knowing your sons team sucks?

Nice to see that you took my last post to heart Thee. Feel free to PM me any time you want to forfeit your team.

Darth Tater
11-11-2007, 07:28 PM
Faced with a must win situation, it looks like footballers is in position to knock off our corrupt commissioner. Looks like his Dad is going to win a crucial game against Webz tonight too.

TFD had a must win game against yours truly, but the Tater machine keeps rolling. Bezeach is trying to hand #1 his first loss of the year, but #1 has lots of guys yet to play. Looks like I may get the honor of knockng him off myself in the season finale three games from now...as well as in the Super Bowl.:stirthepot:

Oz having a nice game against winless, and old Woody may be going down.

TheeTFD
11-11-2007, 09:13 PM
trades are fair, the Wash. Generals folded into the Mich. Panthers it happens. And those losers I tied to guide still suck maximum suckage.

webz
11-11-2007, 10:14 PM
Faced with a must win situation, it looks like footballers is in position to knock off our corrupt commissioner. Looks like his Dad is going to win a crucial game against Webz tonight too.


Yeah, lucky week for Bill to play me - No Brady. I don't carry a backup QB, so my replacement, J.P Losman was expected to fill the void for 1 week. It didn't work out, but I thought he had a good matchup against a bad Miami team.

I also thought perhaps my stud RB's would be able to carry me this week, playing against suspect defenses, but they didn't step up at all which was very disappointing. My susper-sleeper-stud TE, Jason Witten only saw the ball twice for 12 yards this week; another break for Laimbs.

It's all but over but it looks like Peyton Manning is doing his best to help me out, throwing 3 INT's so far. If he has a scoreless night, a 2-TD effort from D.J Hackett tomorrow could steal the week. However, it's an unlikely scenario.

BillLaimbeer
11-11-2007, 10:30 PM
Yeah, lucky week for Bill to play me - No Brady. I don't carry a backup QB, so my replacement, J.P Losman was expected to fill the void for 1 week. It didn't work out, but I thought he had a good matchup against a bad Miami team.

I also thought perhaps my stud RB's would be able to carry me this week, playing against suspect defenses, but they didn't step up at all which was very disappointing. My susper-sleeper-stud TE, Jason Witten only saw the ball twice for 12 yards this week; another break for Laimbs.

It's all but over but it looks like Peyton Manning is doing his best to help me out, throwing 3 INT's so far. If he has a scoreless night, a 2-TD effort from D.J Hackett tomorrow could steal the week. However, it's an unlikely scenario.

LOL. Manning is up to 4 INT's. They better take him out of the game or I might back down below your score. If you look at the 6 guys on my bench, you will see 4 guys with by