After getting blown out by the Liberty in game 1 and almost blowing a lead in the game 2, the Shock trail most of game 3 before pulling ahead by five in the last 2.5 minutes on a 3 ball by Katie Smith (who had missed her previous 6 shots). Then they blow a five point lead an allow the NY to tie the game and send it in to OT.

After falling behing by five in OT they go in a 7-0 run and then hold on to win by 1.

katie Smith almost shot them out of the game, but did hit a couple of 3 balls in crunch time and OT. Nolan led the comeback in the 4th. Cheryl Ford who missed the last 10 games of the season and was thought to be out for the season came back to help them win by being the only Shock player to show up in the first half. Can this be the first BB team in Mihicgan to repeat since the Bad boyz in 1990???

Caught the end. Great finish.

Go Shock!

After getting blown out by the Liberty in game 1 and almost blowing a lead in the game 2, the Shock trail most of game 3 before pulling ahead by five in the last 2.5 minutes on a 3 ball by Katie Smith (who had missed her previous 6 shots). Then they blow a five point lead an allow the NY to tie the game and send it in to OT.

After falling behing by five in OT they go in a 7-0 run and then hold on to win by 1.

katie Smith almost shot them out of the game, but did hit a couple of 3 balls in crunch time and OT. Nolan led the comeback in the 4th. Cheryl Ford who missed the last 10 games of the season and was thought to be out for the season came back to help them win by being the only Shock player to show up in the first half. Can this be the first BB team in Mihicgan to repeat since the Bad boyz in 1990???


With all this talent on the team, they must have called on Flip Laimbeer to coach this series.............:)

Wish I could have watched that game. I only saw game 1 and it wasn't looking good for them.

I have to say though, that the level of play in the WNBA playoffs is really great so far. They are athletic enough that it almost seems like watching a good NCAA men's game. And there really are some spectacular plays.

With all this talent on the team, they must have called on Flip Laimbeer to coach this series.............:)

Hey, at least Laimbeer understands the word "toughness." Flip thinks "toughness" means when his steak is difficult to cut.

That being said, Indiana is gonna be tough in Round 2.

WNBA basketball is much more physical than NBA basketball. Outrageously and splendidly so.

This has Piston flavor all over it.

First the Shock finish with the best record in the league
Then Flip Laimbeer rests the starters in the last five games after they clinch
Then they come out rusty, cocky and overconfident in game 1 and have to hold on to win games 2 and 3.

We can only speculate that in round two if Tamika (La bron) catchings leads the Indiana (Cavs) Fever to an upset of the defending champs.

Hopefully Katie Smith gets under control and Cheryl Ford can keep her knee healthy for another chance to contend in the finals.

Is it possible for me to be a WNBA groupie that hangs outside the lockeroom, but it'd probably be my luck that I end up in a compromising position with one of the goon looking ladies as oppossed to Swin Cash.

Hey, at least Laimbeer understands the word "toughness." Flip thinks "toughness" means when his steak is difficult to cut.

That being said, Indiana is gonna be tough in Round 2.


After reading this, I now have something to CHEW on.......:pound:

Is it possible for me to be a WNBA groupie that hangs outside the lockeroom, but it'd probably be my luck that I end up in a compromising position with one of the goon looking ladies as oppossed to Swin Cash.


Swin Cash is Filet-o-nice looking.............who are the goons ????????:stirthepot:

Swin cash is pretty good looking. I am glad they made it out of the first round.

I am not sure about the playoff format, but if Shock had the best record, why the news say they open on the road?

I am not sure about the playoff format, but if Shock had the best record, why the news say they open on the road?

I goes 1 away, 2 at home.

I goes 1 away, 2 at home.
Got it. Thanks.

If Beer is still coaching them, I noticed some help D on the block but the Ref called foul. Looked like good clean Det. Dee to me.

I goes 1 away, 2 at home.
Yeah so the better team will always clinch a series win or championship at home...so far both Shock Championships have been at the Palace so old man Davidson didn't have to hop on a plane to celebrate getting those rings.

Shock are one of the more attractive teams in the league but thats not why Lamb signed them. Its come a long way from the 1950's when they wore tennis skirts and were not allowed to run or break a sweat as it was considered too un-ladylike.

I have not seen them yet in the playoffs. Usually like to catch a game or 2 and they looked better than last season.

Calling some of them goons is a little rough. In one game I caught I was courtside and there was a 7' lady from Poland on the other team. Some fans were calling her goon, monster, tree, ... It was sad because she probably was a very nice lady.

Calling some of them goons is a little rough. In one game I caught I was courtside and there was a 7' lady from Poland on the other team. Some fans were calling her goon, monster, tree, ... It was sad because she probably was a very nice lady.

That player is Margo Dydek of the Connecticut Sun. She is 7'2". Not much coordination so she's not really a low post threat. She bothers some shots but she's kinda soft actually.

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This is the picture the Detroit News used.

That's the face she gave the ref. He quit calling fouls on her after that.:]

This is the picture the Detroit News used.
Hell hath no fury...

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This is the picture the Detroit News used.

I think this is why they call her Tweety
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Actually the Shock aren't a bad looking team at all; Powell, Latta, Nolan, Pierson, Ford, and of course Swin. When I said goons I was talking about the fact that there is a solid contingency of manly looking WNBA players (league wise, not locally), not that-that makes them bad people, but there are some chicks that look as if they would be comfrotable using a urinal.

My original point was, am I wrong for wanting to be a WNBA groupie??? I mean where's the equality when I can't use my suave good looks to get Swin pregnant and be one of her many Baby-Daddies, get custody and sue for an outrageous child support order??? Where is the JUSTICE??? I'm officialy starting the SCHOF club. For men that think Swin is "Filet-O-Nice", that deserve the opportunity to be her future baby-daddy and collect child support from a professional athlete.

Already down 1-0 to Indy. Shock held them to 32 percent shooting and outrebounded them but still lost. ???

My original point was, am I wrong for wanting to be a WNBA groupie??? I mean where's the equality when I can't use my suave good looks to get Swin pregnant and be one of her many Baby-Daddies, get custody and sue for an outrageous child support order??? Where is the JUSTICE??? I'm officialy starting the SCHOF club. For men that think Swin is "Filet-O-Nice", that deserve the opportunity to be her future baby-daddy and collect child support from a professional athlete.

The only problem with this plan is the women don't make nearly as much $$$$ as the men. Nice try at gender equity though. Swin, however, has some other business ventures I believe.

Already down 1-0 to Indy. Shock held them to 32 percent shooting and outrebounded them but still lost. ???


Saw most of the game up to the 5 minute mark. Every time the SHock would come within two points, one of the Tams would hit a shot to put thiem back up 4 or 4. (Tammy Sutton, Tamika Whitmore, and Tamika Catchings). Catchings was spectacular with her step back shots even though she only hit five of them. She had a double-double and the Shock sufferred with Swin and katie having bad nights again. if not for Plennette pierson's big 3rd qtr it would have been a bigger loss than the 10 points.

Need some home court support on Sunday and for Cash, Smith and Feenstra to step up.

Need some home court support on Sunday and for Cash, Smith and Feenstra to step up.

I read somewhere that Smith is mired in the worst shooting slump of her career. She picked the wrong time.

Actually the Shock aren't a bad looking team at all; Powell, Latta, Nolan, Pierson, Ford, and of course Swin. When I said goons I was talking about the fact that there is a solid contingency of manly looking WNBA players (league wise, not locally), not that-that makes them bad people, but there are some chicks that look as if they would be comfrotable using a urinal.

My original point was, am I wrong for wanting to be a WNBA groupie??? I mean where's the equality when I can't use my suave good looks to get Swin pregnant and be one of her many Baby-Daddies, get custody and sue for an outrageous child support order??? Where is the JUSTICE??? I'm officialy starting the SCHOF club. For men that think Swin is "Filet-O-Nice", that deserve the opportunity to be her future baby-daddy and collect child support from a professional athlete.


They don't make that much dude. Swin probably only nets around 60k/yr off the Shock. Could be more, I don't know. If they can get some endorsement deals thats another thing. A lot of players do suppliment by playing oversees in the off-season.

Actually the max salary in 07 was $93,000. Total team cap was $728,000. Min Salary for 0-3 years was $32,400 and for 4+ years was $49,134. WNBA championship bonus is $10,000

WomensBasketballOnline.Com: WNBA Salary Scale (http://womensbasketballonline.com/wnba/rosters/salary.html)

Actually the max salary in 07 was $93,000. Total team cap was $728,000. Min Salary for 0-3 years was $32,400 and for 4+ years was $49,134. WNBA championship bonus is $10,000

WomensBasketballOnline.Com: WNBA Salary Scale (http://womensbasketballonline.com/wnba/rosters/salary.html)


This explains why you don't see any of them showing off their Cribs on MTV. Lisa leslie was probably the only player to make the max. I did see her drive by me on the freeway with a brand new S Class Mercedes about 2 years ago.

Most do have to play in Europe during the winter if they want to make more cash. The endorsements however are still way down compared to women's tennis.

The Shock won earlier today against the Fever 77-63. They survived again and tied the series 1-1. Big game tomorrow and its at home, so hopefully they can win the series.

Shock lost their composure in the early 4th, but they pretty much dominated this one from the outset.

Go Shock!

Shock need to steel-toe Indy's butt in Game 3. Should be a competitive game. Whoever wins, I still think PHX is the favorite to win the title. Too much offensive firepower from Taurasi and Pondexter.

I don't remember having seen anyone say this before, but does anyone else think that Deanna Nolan's style of play and way of playing is very similar to Rip Hamilton's?? She has that way of looking like she is playing just off the surface of the floor, never touching it.

To me, she looks just like Rip; I was wondering where the face shield went.

lazy, she is a lot cuter than Rip. To the guys at least. :)

She hits that 3 better than Rip and CB....

roscoe, I HAVE noticed that there are several significant differences :nerd2:

And they all favor Deanna :p_welldone: !!!!

roscoe, I HAVE noticed that there are several significant differences :nerd2:

And they all favor Deanna :p_welldone: !!!!

Rip is the bigger winner on payday....

On to the finals for the Shock. They eliminate Indiana and now face the Phoenix Cupcakes....................:gun1::gun1:

AT least one team in SE Michigan was able to have a successful weekend a labor day after debacles on saturday by the Wolverines and Sunday by the Tigers.


Deanna Nolan was spectacular hitting 7-11 three balls to bring the Shock back into it in the second qtr, and once Tamika C went down, it was the Shock game to lose due to overconfidence. There was a stumble midway thru the third, but Cheryl Ford woke up near the end of the qtr and Katie Smith and Swin Cash carried on the onslaught to close out the game. The Shock should be able to outlast the Mercury's high potent no defense line-up as long as these two play all four qtrs with Tweety and not disappear like they have been doing.

Good to see Billups back at the palace today supporting his sister team after grabbing the medal last night with his FIBA team.

Shock up by 9 with 2 minutes to play in Game 1. GO SHOCK!

Shock win game 1 by beating the Mercury at the FT line and in the paint.>>> WITHOUT Cheryl Ford!! They out boarded the mercs 48-30

Paul Westhead's team did what his teams to best >catch and shoot, but it wasn't enough as rough & tough Cappy Pondexter missed 10 shots in the first half and Diana Taurasi sat out most of the game in foul trouble. I didn't count but they must have launched 30 three pointers....

We may need to change this thread to "Shock go for three" or "Shock taking a crack at a Back-to-Back" :)

We may need to change this thread to "Shock go for three" or "Shock taking a crack at a Back-to-Back" :)
Done. :)

I didn't even realize the Shock season was going on until I saw that last thread! :pound::nerd2: But I've been keeping up with the playoffs now thanks to this forum.:MusicBigGrin:




Go Shock & Go Lambs!

(Go get Flip's job Lambs):sssh:

Its good to see the Shock winning. Wonder what the Pistons are going to think when that championship drive keeps changing names and they are not the ones doing it.

Its good to see the Shock winning. Wonder what the Pistons are going to think when that championship drive keeps changing names and they are not the ones doing it.

It means Laimbs will have some leverage over Flip when Davison starts analyzing where he is getting wins, banners, trophy's and rings...

Laimbeer doesn't get the Piston's head coaching job. He does get a raise though for doing well. Actually, he may be better at player procurement. Any GM openings out there..............

Funny somebody over at DET-News site (Fleabag) mentioned that ESPN was all over or in Diana Taurasi's jock strap/draws or whatever :)and it did seem that way since her name was mentioned more than anybody else even though she rode the pine for most of the game.

But when I watch the ESPN highlights this morning, same old thing. If my memory serves correct, the Shock won the game right? There were 5 highlights, one of a Kara Braxton putback, one Diana Taurasi three pointer and 3 Taurasi fouls:confused:. what gives here? I know she spent some time at UCONN which is in the same neighborhood of ESPN's home office, but we never hear Swin or Rip two other UC Huskies getting this much hype on ESPN. She must already be under contract to ESPN for the offseason or when she retires..

That's the face she gave the ref. He quit calling fouls on her after that.:]
:pound:

I was getting mad at the refs watching the last Shock game. Now I know that I have a problem.

Funny somebody over at DET-News site (Fleabag) mentioned that ESPN was all over or in Diana Taurasi's jock strap/draws or whatever :)and it did seem that way since her name was mentioned more than anybody else even though she rode the pine for most of the game.

But when I watch the ESPN highlights this morning, same old thing. If my memory serves correct, the Shock won the game right? There were 5 highlights, one of a Kara Braxton putback, one Diana Taurasi three pointer and 3 Taurasi fouls:confused:. what gives here? I know she spent some time at UCONN which is in the same neighborhood of ESPN's home office, but we never hear Swin or Rip two other UC Huskies getting this much hype on ESPN. She must already be under contract to ESPN for the offseason or when she retires..

I have lost all faith in the ESPN website. Does not help that any decent looking article is in the paid area.

Maybe they will sweep and be done with it. Best of 5 here so winning the 1st game was huge.

Good article.

I'm more convinced than ever Laimbeer can make it work in the men's league...but he'll need Rickey Mahorn at his side or they won't put up with him.

Hot Shock win like Bad Boys (http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070908/SPORTS0105/709080386/1004/SPORTS)

Mahorn is one big dude these days. Rick is great.

The Shock remind me of the 2005 pistons. I'd rather watch woeful shooting and domination on the glass than decent shooting and weak rebounding because there is a sense of despair that all those 2nd chance points will add up and if you cool off, it will be curtains for you.

Laimbeer failed to adjust in game 2. He tried to go inside and the Westhead countered with all arms. (and slap fouls that they got away with). The Shock didn't put enough hands in faces the three point shooters and when they did, the Mercury still hit them....16 out of 44 to be exact to the Shock's 3 of 20. Don't know if either team will have the same percentages in game 3, but it may be over for the Shock since they have not won on the road during these playoffs.

Tweety Nolan was cold and Katie Smith didn't shoot....now that I think about it, everybody was cold... I am wondering if they should sit Cheryl Ford again as she probably took the Shock out of their offense as they were trying to feed her in the middle.

I missed the first 10 minutes of the second half and when I got back it was virtually over.

Great game tonight. There was a stretch from about the 2:15 mark of the 3rd quarter where both teams combined to make 8 shots in a row, including some really tough ones. The intensity was right up there with college ball.

And Bill Laimbeer was all over everybody. If you are doubting his coaching ability, watch some of these games. One thing that is obvious is that he is making his team play harder than they would for Flip.

Great win by the Shock!

I am totally impressed with the level of play in the WNBA.

Fantastic games from Katie Smith, Deanna Nolan and Pierson.

I hope they can avoid a repeat of Game 2 in Game 4. Don't give this team any more confidence. I might buy a Shock jersey if they win it all.

I watched most of the 2nd half. It the most interested I have been in a WNBA game. The announcing was very impressive, they actually talked about the game. What a novel idea. No half screen cutaways to interview whatever shmuck was in the audience, they actually gave credit to someone when they scored rather than finishing their thoughts about a players personal whatever that had nothing to do about the game.

Good job ESPN. Now carry that over to the NBA and please alert CBS and TNT.

I know most of you didn't watch game 3 of the finals between the Shock and the Mercury and some didn't care, but because they are currently the only champion in town, I thought I'd give you an old fashion recap.

Shock 88- Mercury 83..Shock lead Best of 5, 2 games to 1.

I missed the first quarter, but the Shock suprisingly had a 7 point lead as Mercury came out shooting blanks. In the second qtr the Mercury made a move, but still the Shock held on to a half time lead 50-45, as Cappie Pondexter hit a jumper to end the half and bring the Mercury a little closer. Cappie is the type of player I wished the Pistons had, someone who can drive and penetrate at will or stop and pop the short jumper or the three when needed.

The ESPN halftime crew of Carolyn Peck and Nancy Leiberman were once again all in the Mercury drawers giving them all of the props and momentum to win this game in the second half. the Mercury did their best to shave that lead in the 3rd qtr, but in the end, the Shock held on to six point lead. It all came down to the 4th qtr as everyone in da house knew that Diana Taurasi would step up and try take over. Her former UCONN coach, Gino Teretta ?? was the color commentator and it was obvious he was pulling for Taurasi even saying WE a couple of times when referring to the Mercury getting back into the game. He must not like his other former UConn player Swin Cash??, but then again Taurasi did win three NCAA titles for him.

:focus:

In the 4th, the Mercury collapsed missing their last 12 shots. The turning point came when the Mercury missed 5 straight shots after grabbing multiple offensive boards before the Shock finally were able to get control of the rock. However the Merc stayed in the game because the BS ref job being done on the Shock and Laimbeers ladies failure to grab key rebounds on missed FT shooting by the Merc in the final two minutes.

Ms Big Shot, Tweety Nolan hit the last 4 FT's to ice the game and save it for the Shock. Good game by her and Katie Smith the best back court in the WNBA, now where have we heard that before?

The Merc who hit 16-44 threes on Saturday, hit only 5/31 tonight. The real descrepancy was the FT shooting where the Merc went to the FT line to hit 28-38 and the Shock hit 12-15. But alas the Shock survive and hopefully take this crown on Thursday and send Diana Taurasi crying into Geno Terreta's arms.

Good coaching adjustment by Laimbeer. Hopefully Flip is taking notes.:stirthepot:

I know most of you didn't watch game 3 of the finals between the Shock and the Mercury and some didn't care, but because they are currently the only champion in twon, I thought I give you and old fashion recap.
Shock 88- Mercury 83
I missed the first quarter, but the Shock suprisingly had a 7 point lead as Mercury came out shooting blanks. In the second qtr the mercury made a move, but still the Shock held on to a half time lead 50-45, as Cappie Pondexter hit a jumper to end the half and bring the Mercury a little closer.

The ESPN halftime crew of Carolyn Peck and Nancy Leiberman were once again all in the Mercury drawers giving them all of the props and momentum to win this game in the second half. the Mercury did their best to shave that lead in the 3rd qtr, but in the end, the Shock held on to six point lead. It all came down to the 4th qtr as everyone in da house knew that Diana Taurasi would step up and try take over. Her former UCONN coach, Gino Teretta ?? was the color commentator and it was obvious he was pulling for Taurasi even saying WE a couple of times when referring to the Mercury getting back into the game. He must not like his other former UConn player Swin Cash??, but then again Taurasi did win three NCAA titles for him.

:focus:

In the 4th, the Mercury collapsed missing their last 12 shots. The turning point came when the Mercury missed 5 straight shots after grabbing multiple offensive boards before the Shock finally were able to get control of the rock. However the Merc stayed in the game because the BS ref job being done on the Shock and Laimbeers ladies failure to grab key rebounds on missed FT shooting by the Merc in the final two minutes.

Ms Big Shot, Tweety Nolan hit the last 4 FT's to ice the game and save it for the Shock. Good game by her and Katie Smith the best back court in the WNBA, now where have we heard that before?

The Merc who hit 16-44 threes on Saturday, hit only 5/31 tonight. The real descrepancy was the FT shooting where the Merc went to the FT line to hit 28-38 and the Shock hit 12-15. But alas the Shock survive and hopefully take this crown on Thursday and send Diana Taurasi crying into Geno Terreta's arms.

Good coaching adjustment by Laimbeer. Hopefully Flip is taking notes.:stirthepot:


Thanks for the Recap, Dre. I haven't been able to watch any of these games, but I am still interested. Out here in Seattle, the Storm might be more popular than the Sonics.

Next season maybe I can catch the Shock vs. Storm games here in town.

For the first time, I'm actually convinced that they have a great product here and that it could become profitable in the long-run once the players' personalities are known.

I'm actually going to make it a plan to watch the rest of the games.


Also, the short quarters are a good idea. They make the game a little more intense.

For the first time, I'm actually convinced that they have a great product here and that it could become profitable in the long-run once the players' personalities are known.

I'm actually going to make it a plan to watch the rest of the games.


Also, the short quarters are a good idea. They make the game a little more intense.


Well ESPN/WNBA is trying to make Diana Taurasi a household name and hopefully Thursday is the last game of this season so make plans to watch or TIVO it (in case you rather watch Big Brother):)

Her former UCONN coach, Gino Teretta ?? was the color commentator and it was obvious he was pulling for Taurasi even saying WE a couple of times when referring to the Mercury getting back into the game. He must not like his other former UConn player Swin Cash??, but then again Taurasi did win three NCAA titles for him.

Geno Auriemma. My office is in the arena at UConn so I see this guy ALL the time. He's an azz. He never says "hello" to me. :pound:

Thanks for DreCap. I didn't get to see it.

Detroit puts an excellent product on the court. With that said, attendance is down enough to the point where they could consider pulling the plug on the league. I just wish they'd lower the hoop to a height of 9 feet. This would help to have play above the rim and put more butts in the seats.

the third quarter was just great and the comment made was just right on. "this is how the nba use to be", the team play and great play reminded me of how the playoffs used to be. As great as MJ was, the league ha not been the same since he started winning titles. Those two teams last night were going at each other like the lakers/celtics celtics/pistons and the like. If the masses of the country would forget that they were woman and just watch the product and forget the espn highlight dunks the womans game is better.

Laims contract is up next year? When is Flip's up?:stirthepot:

Nemo I agree. The girls have a livelier smaller ball too. Lower the rim.
Nice crowd in Phoenix. Lets see what Detroit can do.

Great game. Shock up by 1, less than 3 minutes to go.

Plenette Pierson to the line, shooting 2. Taurasi 5 fouls.

Pierson has been great. I think she is my favorite player.

Good coaching adjustment by Laimbeer. Hopefully Flip is taking notes.:stirthepot:

Laimbeer has been pretty solid coaching these women, but he struck out big-time setting up a final shot for the Shock to win the WNBA Championship. I felt like I was watching one of the Pistons last-second plays.

I agree Bill. Not the best final possession, but a very entertaining game to watch none the less.

That's ok, now the Shock can win it all at home!

Ditto. How strangely reminiscient of Cheryl's dad being there and seeing maybe the same injury. Shock are done without her. Should have hit the shot. Great game though.
I always get a kick out of seeing Cheryl at the foul line---almost a carbon copy of her dad.

I'm amazed how physical these games are. Can you imagine how many times these ladies would knock Dwayne Wade on his butt if he drove the lane?

Definitely the Shock missed a golden opportunity to end this thing tonight and send Chery Ford to rehab the rest of the winter.
Final score game 4 Mercury 77, Shock 76

18.6 seconds to win a title and Laimbeers' says he wants the ball in Nolan's hand in the final 3-6 seconds ..well it almost worked but Katie Smtih dribbled it to long and once she handed off to Nolan at the 7 second mark, she was to far out at the top of the circle and had to pass off to Pee wee Johnson for a bad shot from the right with only 2 second left. If Nolan could have split the defense like Cappie Pondexter did on the previous play, she could have even taken the shot herself or even got to the line. If they lose this series, then it will go back to this key game when they seem to be in control from the second qtr on. Of course the Shock's 18 TO's didn't help the matter.

Swin Cash was non-factor and had one of the key TO's in cruch time where she wasn't thinking thru the ball to Kelly swing in the Mercury's favor at that point.

The game was physical, but seems like the Mercury were throwing all the punches....and getting away with it...Tangela Smith drew an offensive foul on Ford with a minute thirty left by grabbing Fords arms. Then Pierson who would have won the MVP tonight with her 9/10 shooting passed a ball to Ford who couldn't bend down to get it. On the next series, her knee buckled again and even Karl Malone who was sitting at courside felt it.

The worst thing about this loss is that we held Taylor and Smith their two big GIRLs to a combined 2/21 shooting and still loss the game. Westhead made a major adjustment by going away from the three ball as they only shot 20 of them (and hit 7) compared to throwing up over 30 threes in the first three games.

A WNBA champion has never won the title on the road so lets hope that tradition holds up and Phoenix goes back to the Sun City crying on Sunday as the Shock complete the back to back. (with or without Cheryl Ford).

I'm out..

When you're down 1 point with 15 seconds, you need to design a play where you get a shot off as soon as possible. If you miss you can get the rebound and try again, or you can foul the other team and still have a possession to win or tie. This is especially true if you are a good defensive team.

Got my fingers crossed for Game 5. Wanna see the Shock shut Taurasi's mouth. It'll be tough. She's got a big yap.

When you're down 1 point with 15 seconds, you need to design a play where you get a shot off as soon as possible. If you miss you can get the rebound and try again, or you can foul the other team and still have a possession to win or tie. This is especially true if you are a good defensive team.

No doubt. They played it as if the game was tied.

Got my fingers crossed for Game 5. Wanna see the Shock shut Taurasi's mouth. It'll be tough. She's got a big yap.

I want to her and Geno whine and cry......

To much slant at these games for the Mercury. The officials tried their best to keep the Mercury in games 3 & 4 with questionable calls. The ESPN studio crew are cheering for the Mercury and then announcers with the UConn coach giving his so call unbiased analysis are even cheering for the Mercury. This is about as bad as Joe Buck calling the World Series last year but at least he didn't show any emotion for his Cards until the last out. How bout dropping Geno and putting Pat Summit in there.

This is almost as rigged as the NBA!

I want to her and Geno whine and cry......

To much slant at these games for the Mercury. The officials tried their best to keep the Mercury in games 3 & 4 with questionable calls. The ESPN studio crew are cheering for the Mercury and then announcers with the UConn coach giving his so call unbiased analysis are even cheering for the Mercury. This is about as bad as Joe Buck calling the World Series last year but at least he didn't show any emotion for his Cards until the last out. How bout dropping Geno and putting Pat Summit in there.

Geno is a perfect example of how someone can be a great coach but a horrible analyst. Very sad indeed.

The Shock are sort of running into the same problems as the Pistons ran into back in '04-05. They play a very rough, physical, defensive style of basketball. The refs do not reward that. Also, if you get a sensitive crew, the foul differential can make the game unwinnable.

Serious question.

Some of those calls, and the tightness of the games have me wondering...

What are the Vegas lines on this, particularly the over under?

I have a crush on that Miller girl of the Merc.
Mercs go down hard in rubber game 90-84.
No pun intended.
SHOCKING !!!!

Serious question.

Some of those calls, and the tightness of the games have me wondering...

What are the Vegas lines on this, particularly the over under?

The offensive foul called on Cheryl Ford with about 1:30 left in the game was horrible. She was trying to establish a post presence and she didn't even have the ball. Also, the call wasn't for bumping to create space, but for holding her arm out as the defender was trying to cheat around her.

With all the contact in that game, the call was way out of proportion. And at the time, the Shock had a 1 point lead.

Of course, the Merc hit some clutch shots after that.

Some more thoughts while I have a break here:

I remember looking at the haltime stats and both teams had 9 fouls called on them> In the second half the Mercury had six fouls called on them and the Shock 10, including that bogus one on Cheryl Ford in the last minute and half. Not to say that it cost them the game, but it certainly thru off Ford's concentration as the next time down the floor wher she was looking the other way when Pierson fed her a pass.

The Shock had 25 fouls called on them in game three as the refs tried their best to keep the Mercury in the game despite their bad shooting.

More fouls were called against the Mercury in games 1 & 2 so hopefully the palace court will give the Shock the benefit of the doubt Sunday.

Stat wise, the Shock have out played the Mercury in every game except the game 2 blowout. They should win on Sunday even without Ford as long as Nolan is not tentative and drives to the hoop.. She can neutralize both Taurasi and Cappie by getting them in foul trouble as merc have no bench.

Some more thoughts while I have a break here:

I remember looking at the haltime stats and both teams had 9 fouls called on them> In the second half the Mercury had six fouls called on them and the Shock 10, including that bogus one on Cheryl Ford in the last minute and half. Not to say that it cost them the game, but it certainly thru off Ford's concentration as the next time down the floor wher she was looking the other way when Pierson fed her a pass.

The Shock had 25 fouls called on them in game three as the refs tried their best to keep the Mercury in the game despite their bad shooting.

More fouls were called against the Mercury in games 1 & 2 so hopefully the palace court will give the Shock the benefit of the doubt Sunday.

Stat wise, the Shock have out played the Mercury in every game except the game 2 blowout. They should win on Sunday even without Ford as long as Nolan is not tentative and drives to the hoop.. She can neutralize both Taurasi and Cappie by getting them in foul trouble as merc have no bench.

There should be a no call on that Ford's play. They should just let them play. It's the final minute of the game. Why call it at that time? Further more, Bill should put the ball in Nolan's hand the last 2 minutes of the game instead of putting the ball inside and causes all this turnovers. We have 2 turnovers in the last 2 minutes of the game. Could have prevented it. Now we have to play another game to win this, which WE WILL!!!

GO SHOCK!!!

With how great Pierson has been playing this season it does not seem like they miss Ford as much as they would have.

That was golden opportunity to close it out. I hope it does not come back to haunt them.

hmmmmmm, Lions home opener against the Vikings or final game of the WNBA with the Shock at home. Sorry, girls lose.

This is how sad it is, Shock have a greater Neilson Rating against the Lions.;-]

hmmmmmm, Lions home opener against the Vikings or final game of the WNBA with the Shock at home. Sorry, girls lose.

Good choice

Watching the Lady Shock rather than the girlie Lionesses.

:hoops:

I have to watch the ladies too as the Shock game is televised here on free TV and the Lions game isn't

It's win or go home sad for the Shock!! For the Lions it's win or try again next week.

GO Shock....Go LIons

Ladies getting drubbed 43- 30. ouch!!!

It looks like Laimbeer really grew to dislike Swin Cash. Too bad he had to disrespect her in her final game at the Palace:

MERCURY 108, SHOCK 92: DREW SHARP: Cash, face of Shock basketball, hints she may not be back next year (http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070917/COL08/709170330/1048/SPORTS)

Looks like Laimbeer has a little LB in him.

I remember when Cash was the 1st option...........Seems like she's been 4th or 5th lately............

I remember when Cash was the 1st option...........Seems like she's been 4th or 5th lately............

Looks like she's on the way out.

Cash Says Sun A Possibility -- Courant.com (http://www.courant.com/sports/basketball/hc-swin0920.artsep20,0,3709357.story)

Hey, they made it interesting. First team to get done at home.

Ladies played well. Don't know if Laimbeer helped his resume. Looks like Flip Saunders is safe from his takeover.:stirthepot:

Mercury got very hot. That's all.