I wanted to post a couple of small NFL related, but non new thread worthy items recently but couldn't find a good spot to put them, so I created this thread.

Feel free to put any non Lions related NFL season talk/articles/comments, etc. that you don't want to start a separate thread for in here.

I fully expect the Packers to win the NFC Central division. They'll do it on the back of Brett Favre and a surging defense............They'll take two from the Lions.

Oh man, I just caught this little diddy on YouTube.

It's a story about injured Bills tight end Kevin Everett, but the VIDEO is for a completely different story. You just have to watch it to believe it. I don't want to give anything away. So go watch it right now. I'll wait....

YouTube - Kevin Everett... kicks cop? - Mixed-up Sports Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0KmjqabDUU)

.... done yet?

Talk about the worst possible video to mess up. It wasn't like it was a video of some guy giving away free balloons to under privileged kids. Nope. It was a video of a guy KICKING A COP. The icing on the cake is how it matched perfectly with what the reporter was saying.

"Great news regarding Bills tight end Kevin Everett. He moved his arms and legs today..." Yeah, he sure did move those legs. In fact, right after regaining mobility in his legs he KICKED A COP!

Wow. Someone sure has egg on their face over that one. I'd love to be a fly on the wall in that meeting.


Disclaimer:
I don't find the Kevin Everett injury funny in the least. That was a horrific injury and I'm very happy that he is doing as well as he is. I also don't find kicking a cop (or anyone for that matter) funny. But common, that video is FUNNY!

Adrian Peterson is going off. 270 total yards and 3 TD's with 7 minutes left in the 4th Q against the SD defense. I don't know much about NFL football, but that seems pretty impressive.

Wow, Adrian Peterson is the REAL DEAL. I keep waiting for him to hit a wall, but it hasn't happened yet.

Going into today's game he has 740 rushing yards, 105.7 per game, 5.8 per carry, 5 TDs and 11 catches for 187 yards and a TD.

In today's game he has 27 carries for 251 rushing yards, 9.3 yards per carry, and 3 TDs and 1 catch for 19 yards.

Wouldn't you know that Darth has Peterson on his fantasy team and I'm playing him this week. Good thing the rest of his team sucks. :pound:

He set a single game NFL rushing record in only his eighth game. He had 296 rushing yards in the game.

He is also the only rookie EVER to rush for 200 yards in 2 separate games in his rookie season - and he still has 8 games left to top that.

Wow. Impressive.

Len Pasquarelli has come out with his Mid-Season All-Pro Team. Not 1 Lion made the squad.


Offensive Team

WR - Randy Moss - Pats
WR - Braylon Edwards - Browns
TE - Antonio Gates - Chargers
LT - Matt Light - Pats
LG - Eric Steinbach - Browns
C - Andre Gurode - Cowboys
RG - Chris Snee - Giants
RT - Mark Tauscher - Packers
QB - Tom Brady - Pats
RB - Adrian Peterson - Vikings
RB - Brian Westbrook - Eagles

K - Rob Bironas - Titans
P - Andy Lee - 49ers
KR - Leon Washington - Jets
PR - Devin Hester - Bears

ESPN - Pasquarelli: Offensive Midseason All-Pros - NFL (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=3097708)


Defensive Team

RE - Jared Allen - KC Chiefs
DT - Albert Haynesworth - Titans
DT - Tommie Harris - Bears
LE - Aaron Kampman - Packers
OLB - Mike Vrabel - Patriots
MLB - Barrett Ruud - Bucs
OLB - Keith Bullocks - Titans
CB - Asante Samuel - Patriots
CB - Charles Woodson - Packers
SS - Bob Sanders - Colts
FS - Sean Taylor - Skins

ESPN - Pasquarelli: Defensive Midseason All-Pros - NFL (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=3097876)


Your thoughts?

Where's Rogers?

The Lions offense is only 12th statistically, in total yards this season.
The defense is 28th in total yards given up this year.
We just don't look that good on paper, except for the win - loss stat.
We are playing a better team game with many takeaways and opportunities being capitalized on.
Rogers has to get rid of his rep as a slacker to become listed on all pro teams.

Classy move by the Vikings organization. They've docked the pay of WR Troy Williamson for missing last Sunday's game because he was attending his grandmother's funeral.

The team apparently apprised Williamson on Wednesday that he would not receive a paycheck for the game that he missed. "I don't care if they would have [taken] my pay for the rest of the year, I was going home," Williamson told the St. Paul Pioneer Press. "It wouldn't have mattered to me."

ESPN - Vikings dock WR Williamson pay for family funeral - NFL (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3100835)

Apparently people are only permitted to pass away in the offseason.

Classy move by the Vikings organization. They've docked the pay of WR Troy Williamson for missing last Sunday's game because he was attending his grandmother's funeral.



ESPN - Vikings dock WR Williamson pay for family funeral - NFL (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3100835)

Apparently people are only permitted to pass away in the offseason.

Ridiculous stuff. In one of my classes today, our professor put up a quote that said, "The two most common elements in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity. But not in that order."

Classy move by the Vikings organization. They've docked the pay of WR Troy Williamson for missing last Sunday's game because he was attending his grandmother's funeral.



ESPN - Vikings dock WR Williamson pay for family funeral - NFL (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3100835)

Apparently people are only permitted to pass away in the offseason.

Betcha the HR person who made this decision and his boss will not lose any pay if they took a day off for bereavement. The Pistons let Rip slide on two games to see and assist with his son's birth and the Jazz gave D Fisher time off to see about his ill daughter during the playoffs... what this means is that a professional team will allow you time off with pay look after the living, but not the dearly departed??
Or is this an NFL thing because of limited number of games??? Or is it a Vikings thing??

Somebody up in Minnesota sleeps under a rock.........

The Vikings aren't going anywhere this season anyway. It's not like he missed the Super Bowl. He missed a meaningless game for a meaningless team.

But even if it was the Super Bowl, when someone in your family dies, that takes precedence over a GAME.

I just don't see why the Vikings would do this. Is the money saved really worth risking alienating your players over? Not exactly a "Welcome" sign for potential FAs.

The Vikings aren't going anywhere this season anyway. It's not like he missed the Super Bowl. He missed a meaningless game for a meaningless team.

But even if it was the Super Bowl, when someone in your family dies, that takes precedence over a GAME.

I just don't see why the Vikings would do this. Is the money saved really worth risking alienating your players over? Not exactly a "Welcome" sign for potential FAs.

Call it a game, call it a job - any way you look at it, it's truly gutless to refuse pay for these kind of extenuating circumstances. For a wealthy athlete it's not hurting him much financially, but it's a big slap in the face. I hope we hear that the Player's Association is planning to challenge this. That's what they are there for. In any other job field, your union would not stand for something like this, I suspect.

Call it a game, call it a job - any way you look at it, it's truly gutless to refuse pay for these kind of extenuating circumstances. For a wealthy athlete it's not hurting him much financially, but it's a big slap in the face. I hope we hear that the Player's Association is planning to challenge this. That's what they are there for. In any other job field, your union would not stand for something like this, I suspect.
I agree, it isn't about the money at all. Unlike our friend Spreewell, I don't think that Williamson or any of his family members will go hungry because of the loss of income. It's also not like the Vikings would go bankrupt without the extra $25,000. Like you said, it's a slap in the face. It shows an absolute lack of class and respect.

I believe I read somewhere that the union will be filing a grievance - as well they should.

actually the team did give him his money after the fact.... puplic bad pr is wonderful thing. he has said he's going to donate the money to charity also.... class act by him.

actually the team did give him his money after the fact.... puplic bad pr is wonderful thing. he has said he's going to donate the money to charity also.... class act by him.
Thanks for the update. I hadn't heard that.

The Vikings get no credit from me for that. They had no choice. Either they do it now "voluntarily" or they pay it later after they're forced to.

Very classy move by Williamson to donate the money.

OK, here's what I could find. This is from Sportsnetwork.com

The Sports Network - National Football League (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/default.asp?c=sportsnetwork&page=nfl/news/abn4112517.htm)


After being vilified for taking the paycheck of grieving receiver Troy Williamson, the Vikings reversed course and allowed the former first round pick to collect his $25,888 paycheck.
"It's not important to be right but to get it right," Childress said.
The Vikings originally withheld Williamson's paycheck after he missed the San Diego Chargers game to arrange his grandmother Celestine's funeral.
"I don't care if (the Vikings) would have took my pay for the rest of the year; I was going home," Williamson told the St. Paul Pioneer Press. "It wouldn't have mattered to me. No matter what (Childress) would have said, if I had to stay up here or not, I would have been at my house for that week."
Childress and the Vikings acquiesced only after being lampooned as cheap and crass by nearly everyone, including their own players.
"In the end, after conversations with the Wilfs and the leadership group, (the Vikings) decided that he receive that paycheck," Childress said on Saturday. "The big thing is, everybody grieves differently. That's the message conveyed to me by the group."
This incident doesn't bode well for Williamson's future in Minnesota. Already regarded as a bust after being selected with the seventh-overall pick in the 2005 draft, he now has crossed a boss known for holding a grudge.
Last year, Childress cut receiver Marcus Robinson on Christman Eve after the veteran receiver repeatedly questioned the coach's offensive game plans.
"This has been an extremely trying and difficult time for my family, and I hope that everyone's thoughts and prayers are with my brother Carlton for a quick and speedy recovery," Williamson said. "My wish is that the issue is over and that I can now go about being a football player." This issue might be "over," but so is Williamson's career in Minnesota.


Interesting take. Do you guys agree with the writer that Williamson's career in Minny is over?

I don't know but if you don't have vacation pay you can't collect vacation pay. Or sick pay. Too bad he couldn't scheldule better.

ESPN - Report: Winless Dolphins to start rookie QB Beck - NFL (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3109875)

Love the move, seeing as how Beck is also from BYU. I met him (at church, no less) a little before the draft and also saw him a few times after, and he is a really mature, well-grounded guy. I am looking forward to seeing him succeed in Miami. It's pretty much a no-lose situatio for him - very low expectations, no pressure to come out and be an instant success, so he has time to develop. Here's to a great second half for Beck and the Dolphins!

ESPN - Report: Winless Dolphins to start rookie QB Beck - NFL (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3109875)

Love the move, seeing as how Beck is also from BYU. I met him (at church, no less) a little before the draft and also saw him a few times after, and he is a really mature, well-grounded guy. I am looking forward to seeing him succeed in Miami. It's pretty much a no-lose situation for him - very low expectations, no pressure to come out and be an instant success, so he has time to develop. Here's to a great second half for Beck and the Dolphins. Here's PF.com's newest Dolphins fan!

dolphins going 0-16 the year the Pats go perfect.
sooo karmic.
nice run doll fan

WOW what a Monday night game.

New England's perfect season continues.

It went down to the last play of the game. A hail mary pass to win the game is caught at the 2 yard line but Baltimore couldn't get into the end zone. The Ravens gave this game away, but give New England credit. They found a way to win it in the end. That's what winners do.

WOW what a Monday night game.

New England's perfect season continues.

It went down to the last play of the game. A hail mary pass to win the game is caught at the 2 yard line but Baltimore couldn't get into the end zone. The Ravens gave this game away, but give New England credit. They found a way to win it in the end. That's what winners do.


Just win baby...win...:gun1:

Wow, what a crazy finish. I don't know what the Patriots were thinking on that 4th and 1 where the Ravens stopped them but had it waved off because their defensive coordinator had called timeout. The Pats had gotten out of bounds on the previous play, so there was no need to rush anything, but for some reason Brady lined up quickly and tried to sneak it through. Then they got another big break on the defensive holding when the next 4th down pass was incomplete. But it would have been pretty bad if the Ravens had scored on that last hail mary; there were two instances of incredibly blatant offensive pass interference by the same receiver on the play, but neither of them were called!

Wow, what a crazy finish. I don't know what the Patriots were thinking on that 4th and 1 where the Ravens stopped them but had it waved off because their defensive coordinator had called timeout. The Pats had gotten out of bounds on the previous play, so there was no need to rush anything, but for some reason Brady lined up quickly and tried to sneak it through. Then they got another big break on the defensive holding when the next 4th down pass was incomplete. But it would have been pretty bad if the Ravens had scored on that last hail mary; there were two instances of incredibly blatant offensive pass interference by the same receiver on the play, but neither of them were called!


Looks like it was a crazy game...I just saw the ESPN 4 minute wrap-up of the game and even though I didn't know who had won when I tuned into it, I just knew that the Pats would pull it out. that is three weeks in a row that they have been living on the edge..you know it is going to catch with them soon...

that is three weeks in a row that they have been living on the edge..you know it is going to catch with them soon...
Agreed, but they only have to hold out for 4 more weeks.

I was totally surpised that NE didn't onside kick from the 35 yard line. Why wouldn't they?

Worst case scenario is that it goes 10 yards and they don't recover it. In that case, Balt gets it at the 25 vs. the 20. It really wasn't a stretch to think that Balt could get in FG range with 45 seconds left.

Also frustrating was seeing the Ravens throw to the middle of the field on the first play and then not use a time out. The next play, they throw to the middle of the field again and use their last timeout (they would have had one more if they wouldn't have burned it on defense on that critical 4th down play). Then, only needing about 25 yards, they try to go deep and throw incomplete. That leaves them with the hail mary as the only option, and that was not really an option because the QB couldn't throw that far.

Maybe the cold weather was affecting their brains.

I was totally surpised that NE didn't onside kick from the 35 yard line. Why wouldn't they?

Worst case scenario is that it goes 10 yards and they don't recover it. In that case, Balt gets it at the 25 vs. the 20. It really wasn't a stretch to think that Balt could get in FG range with 45 seconds left.
I was thinking the exact same thing when I was watching it. If it goes well and they recover, the game is over. If it doesn't, the Ravens get a maximum of 5 extra yards out of the deal.

I thought the risk was low given the potential gain.

The Patriots might have decided against it because the Ravens only needed to get within FG range. If NE had been up by 4 or more, 5 yards here or there wouldn't matter in the last minute, but for a FG it could make a difference. It's true that Baltimore starting from the 25 wouldn't have been much riskier than from the 20, but that slight extra risk was probably about the same as the slight chance of NE recovering an onside kick.

If they were worried about a fg, then they should have kicked one of those little pop-ups and pinned them in at about the 10 yard line.

If the Pats were up by 35 points, then they would have on-side kicked it, that much I do know.

If the Pats were up by 35 points, then they would have on-side kicked it, that much I do know.

Yeah, that much is pretty obvious. :pound:

Pats win to continue their perfect season.

Miami is in OT with Baltimore looking to end their 0-for season.

Stay tuned...

Wow, dramatic win for the Dolphins to avoid infamy. Stover misses a 44-yarder in OT, and then the Dolphins get a 64 yard TD pass on their first series following that.

WTF was Billick thinking not running one more play in regulation? They completed a first down pass inside the 1 and got out of bounds with 12 seconds left, down by 3. No timeouts left, so I guess it's too risky to call a run, but why not throw one more pass? Plenty of time for the QB to try to find someone before throwing it away if no one's open, even with a bit of scrambling. Instead, he went for the FG without taking another shot at the end zone. He was barking at some of the players as they came off the field, apparently because they were mad at not getting another shot at the end zone. They, uh...had that one right.

Damn those Fins...

Wow, the Green Bay vs Bears game is U.G.L.Y.!

An example of the ugliness, the Packers punter has 4 punts for a total of 50 yards. :puke:

The Bears' running back Adrian Peterson has 22 rushes in the first HALF. By comparison, Kevin Jones has 24 rushes in the past 3 weeks combined.

The Ravens have fired Billick:

ESPN - Owner says Billick will not return as Ravens coach - NFL (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3175037)

Get Bellick now!

The Ravens have fired Billick:

ESPN - Owner says Billick will not return as Ravens coach - NFL (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3175037)


The players quit on Billick almost as bad as our team did the second half of this season. Don't think he's a good fit for our bunch of malcontents..........:stirthepot:

They banked on a broken down QB.

They banked on a broken down QB.


You're right..........and..Billick is not an Offensive Genius.......

You're right..........and..Billick is not an Offensive Genius.......


I think any of us could have been given the title of offensive genius with Randy Moss as a rookie receiver, Carter on the other side and a very good QB.

Dude won a SB with Trent Dilfer..................

Dude won a SB with Trent Dilfer..................

on the back of there defense though, his offense in baltimore was never anything to write home about.... good enough to win games because that defense was so dominate.

Check !

The lions should hire him to truely finish his career!

:gun1::gun1: