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buddahfan
10-15-2007, 01:34 AM
that they are the best team.

Yes they won big again today and this time in Dallas. However, Dallas it should be noted built their 5 - 0 record against teams with a 6 - 22 record, so one really has to question how good they are.

The Pats had no running game and Dallas showed that they can score on them.

The test for the Pats will be when they play the Colts in the RCA Dome.

Looking forward to it. I expect the Colts to beat them just as they did last year in the playoffs.

:hoops:

jammertime
10-15-2007, 07:54 AM
You can only beat the teams you play and the Pats have looked really good in beating each of them.

I'd have to say that they're the best team in the league by a wide margin right now. But it's a long season and anything can happen.

Nemo
10-15-2007, 08:38 AM
I think it was Chris Collinsworth who said that they are the best team ever right now. Some are convinced that they can run the table on their season. Interesting how they pick up several WRs in one haul, and the Lions can't do the same with several drafts and high draft huge contracts. I think they'll have the Colts number this season.

ggazoo69
10-15-2007, 12:19 PM
I think it was Chris Collinsworth who said that they are the best team ever right now. Some are convinced that they can run the table on their season. Interesting how they pick up several WRs in one haul, and the Lions can't do the same with several drafts and high draft huge contracts. I think they'll have the Colts number this season.

Well-run organizations are hard to come by. The Pats are so good that they've made almost everyone forget that they caught got red-handed cheating at the beginning of the season. :)

TheeTFD
10-17-2007, 11:32 AM
Buddha I hope it hurts when it finally sinks in. Pats are a juggernaut.

buddahfan
10-21-2007, 06:05 PM
I think it was Chris Collinsworth who said that they are the best team ever right now. Some are convinced that they can run the table on their season. Interesting how they pick up several WRs in one haul, and the Lions can't do the same with several drafts and high draft huge contracts. I think they'll have the Colts number this season.

They haven't beaten a team this year with both a winning record and a winning record against teams with a winning record.

All the the teams they have beaten are turkeys. The combined record of the other teams in the AFC East is 3 - 13. Are you kidding me?

The Pats are the biggest over-hyped and over rated team in the NFL in decades.

Wait until after they play the Colts and Steelers before deciding if they are the best anything, except for "The Best Cheaters"

:hoops:

Nemo
10-21-2007, 06:08 PM
They haven't beaten a team this year with both a winning record and a winning record against teams with a winning record.

All the the teams they have beaten are turkeys.

Wait until after they play the Colts and Steelers before deciding if they are the best anything, except for "The Best Cheaters"

:hoops:

I figure that Tom Brady went to Michigan and they're not playing Appalachian State.....so they're money in the bank.

buddahfan
10-21-2007, 06:18 PM
I figure that Tom Brady went to Michigan and they're not playing Appalachian State.....so they're money in the bank.

More than one bank in history has gone belly up bankrupt, when the going got tough.

Good luck with your savings.

Don't think for a moment that I am saying that the Pats aren't a very good team. They may yet go 19 - 0 this year. But so far they are a 7 - 0 team that has beaten nothing but garbage teams including Dallas, "America's Team" whose 5 - 0 record was built up against teams with a combined 6 - 16 record and right now is having their hands full at home with the 2 - 3 Vikings.

Next week they play the Skins at home, who whipped the Lions good, and are the first pretty good team that the Pats will have played all year. I am looking for a close game next week for the Pats though being at home is probably worth 7 - 10 points for them even against the Skins.

:hoops:

Dlev59
10-21-2007, 06:21 PM
What football team has convinced you this year Buddah???

buddahfan
10-21-2007, 06:49 PM
What football team has convinced you this year Buddah???

The top three teams in the NFL in no particular order are the

Steelers
Colts
Pats

Lets see what happens in Phoenix next Feb 3rd. The three best teams in the NFL are all in the AFC so I would venture to say whoever represents the AFC in Phoenix will win the Super Bowl next Feb 3rd.


:hoops:

Dlev59
10-21-2007, 07:46 PM
The top three teams in the NFL in no particular order are the

Steelers
Colts
Pats

Lets see what happens in Phoenix next Feb 3rd. The three best teams in the NFL are all in the AFC so I would venture to say whoever represents the AFC in Phoenix will win the Super Bowl next Feb 3rd.


:hoops:

I asked what team has convinced you, and you give me the three top teams in the NFL, in your opinion.

So, in reality, I guess either those three teams must have convinced you (that they are very good) or nobody has.

Which is it?

jammertime
10-21-2007, 09:37 PM
The top three teams in the NFL in no particular order are the

Steelers
Colts
Pats

Lets see what happens in Phoenix next Feb 3rd. The three best teams in the NFL are all in the AFC so I would venture to say whoever represents the AFC in Phoenix will win the Super Bowl next Feb 3rd.


:hoops:
The top 3 teams in particular order:

Pats
Colts
Lions

The Pats are for real. Really, it should be #1 Pats, #3 Colts. The Pats are just playing on another level right now. No one can even touch them. The #2 should be reserved as a buffer between them and the rest of the league.

buddahfan
10-23-2007, 10:30 AM
The top 3 teams in particular order:

Pats
Colts
Lions

The Pats are for real. Really, it should be #1 Pats, #3 Colts. The Pats are just playing on another level right now. No one can even touch them. The #2 should be reserved as a buffer between them and the rest of the league.

Pats #1?

Colts march on, beating quality teams with relative ease and the Pats continue to get the ESPN located in MA, press pump by running up the score on mediocre teams in the worst division in American pro football.

Hold your rankings until after Nov 4th.

I expect the Colts to beat the Pats by 10 - 14 points on the 4th, even with the Pats cheating.

:hoops:

TheeTFD
10-24-2007, 11:50 PM
Pats #1?

Colts march on, beating quality teams with relative ease and the Pats continue to get the ESPN located in MA, press pump by running up the score on mediocre teams in the worst division in American pro football.

Hold your rankings until after Nov 4th.

I expect the Colts to beat the Pats by 10 - 14 points on the 4th, even with the Pats cheating.

:hoops:
jags could whup Colts this week...

Nemo
10-28-2007, 07:26 PM
Patriots 52 - Redskins 7...........

New England had 35 first downs........yikes
Lead Washington in time of posession by 15 minutes.......gulp
More than double the offensive yardage.....holy cow

This against the Washington defense that was ranked 5th in the NFL....


Can I get a Witness...........:)

Ozarkruffrider
10-28-2007, 09:54 PM
Case closed

buddahfan
10-28-2007, 10:03 PM
Patriots 52 - Redskins 7...........

New England had 35 first downs........yikes
Lead Washington in time of posession by 15 minutes.......gulp
More than double the offensive yardage.....holy cow

This against the Washington defense that was ranked 5th in the NFL....


Can I get a Witness...........:)

If you watched the game you know that the Patriots cheated again. The announcers even mentioned it during the game.

For almost the entire first half the Patriots had Foxboro stadium maintenance make sure that the Redskins communication between their people in the press box; i.e., spotters etc and the coaches on the field was turned off.

The teams that the Patriots have beaten this year, all eight of them, have beaten only 3 teams with winning records and one of those is the Lions. Its easy to run up scores against mediocrity, especially when you cheat.

See you guys next week in the RCA dome where the Patriots won't be able to tape the opponents plays and cut off their communication.

Nice guys do finish first and its the Colts that are the nice guys, not the Patriots.

:hoops:

CloudWalker
10-28-2007, 11:18 PM
If you watched the game you know that the Patriots cheated again. The announcers even mentioned it during the game.

For almost the entire first half the Patriots had Foxboro stadium maintenance make sure that the Redskins communication between their people in the press box; i.e., spotters etc and the coaches on the field was turned off.

The teams that the Patriots have beaten this year, all eight of them, have beaten only 3 teams with winning records and one of those is the Lions. Its easy to run up scores against mediocrity, especially when you cheat.

See you guys next week in the RCA dome where the Patriots won't be able to tape the opponents plays and cut off their communication.

Nice guys do finish first and its the Colts that are the nice guys, not the Patriots.

:hoops:

amen.

It's really amazing that so many people aren't waiting until after these two teams play to declare the Patriots #1.

Next game should provide a huge wakeup call for the bandwagon.

ggazoo69
10-28-2007, 11:34 PM
Colts march on, beating quality teams with relative ease and the Pats continue to get the ESPN located in MA, press pump by running up the score on mediocre teams in the worst division in American pro football.

ESPN is located in Bristol, Connecticut.

jammertime
10-28-2007, 11:37 PM
amen.

It's really amazing that so many people aren't waiting until after these two teams play to declare the Patriots #1.

Next game should provide a huge wakeup call for the bandwagon.
We don't have to agree on our choices for #1, but why wait? ESPN does their "power poll" each week. That isn't to say that things can't change from week to week. Part of the fun is debating who is #1 during the season. Everyone knows who the #1 is at the end of the season.

For me, the Pats are #1 as of right now. But it's a long season and that can change. Whoever wins next week will be #1 as far as I'm concerned, but again, that doesn't mean that they'll end the season as #1. It just means that, IMO, they're the best team season-to-date.

Darth Tater
10-29-2007, 12:01 AM
I don't like the Patriots. I do like the Colts.

But I have to agree with Jammer (that really hurts) that as of today, in my opinion, the Patriots are the best team in football. The Colts are #2.

If the Colts beat the Pats, I'll happily change my view.

buddahfan
10-29-2007, 12:13 AM
ESPN is located in Bristol, Connecticut.

That is correct.

Bristol Ct is a suburb of MA. LOL

There aren't any major league teams in any sport in Bristol.

Bristol Ct is a suburb of MA

:hoops:

jammertime
10-29-2007, 12:16 AM
But I have to agree with Jammer...

Well there's something I thought I'd never see...

Congrats on being right Darth!

:flypig::flypig::flypig:

buddahfan
10-29-2007, 12:20 AM
Whoever wins next week will be #1 as far as I'm concerned, but again, that doesn't mean that they'll end the season as #1. It just means that, IMO, they're the best team season-to-date.

Exactly,

The Colts won the last Super Bowl. No one has beaten them since. They are #1 until someone beats them.

The Pats will probably have two chances to beat the Colts this year, including one in the playoffs.

The Colts have beaten the Pats the last 3 times that they have played and the Colts are the undefeated Super Bowl champs half way through the following season.

So the Colts are #1 until they are beaten.

Beating up on dog teams and cheating to do it does not make you #1 when you haven't beaten the undefeated Super Bowl champs in over a year.

If the Pats win next week then they will be the best team in the league on Nov 5th.

Pats fans are already lining up the excuses for next week. One announcer said well yes the Colts beat the Pats last year, but then we have to remember that if the Pats receivers hadn't dropped a couple of passes things may have been different.

I expect to hear and read many of those from Pats fans starting even during the game next week and continuing on at least until the Colts and Pats meet in the playoffs this year.

:hoops:

jammertime
10-29-2007, 12:23 AM
Buddah, the sooner you can accept the fact that you're wrong, the sooner we can all move on. :D

CloudWalker
10-29-2007, 10:40 AM
We don't have to agree on our choices for #1, but why wait?

Because you flat out don't rank a person or team #1 until they beat the defending champ.

Think in the terms of boxing. It's ridiculous to rank a guy #1 before he ever comes face to face with the champ.

Technically, even next week is nothing close to a title fight; however, if the Patriots were to pull one out in Indy I would at least understand it when folks decide to rank them #1.

Before then...... I can't get behind the logic at all.

Nemo
10-29-2007, 08:44 PM
Because you flat out don't rank a person or team #1 until they beat the defending champ.

Think in the terms of boxing. It's ridiculous to rank a guy #1 before he ever comes face to face with the champ.

Technically, even next week is nothing close to a title fight; however, if the Patriots were to pull one out in Indy I would at least understand it when folks decide to rank them #1.

Before then...... I can't get behind the logic at all.



I agree with your post, but think about this...........

The Colts have won 7 in a row this season and are undefeated.........
The Colts have won their last 12 games that they've played.........
The Colts have beaten the Patriots the last 3 games.......
The Colts are the Super Bowl Champs........
The Colts will play the Patriots at their home stadium......

However, The Patriots are favored for this game..........:gun1:

Can you say......."Who's your daddy".........

buddahfan
11-04-2007, 01:24 AM
Buddah, the sooner you can accept the fact that you're wrong, the sooner we can all move on. :D

We will find out in less than 24 hours who will be eating dog meat. The Pats have beaten the line every game this year and they probably will be favored by a TD at game time tomorrow.

The bookies and betting establishments are going to get there money back tomorrow that they have lost on the Pats all this year.

Final tomrrow

Colts 31 and Pats 17

cheers
:hoops:

buddahfan
11-04-2007, 01:26 AM
However, The Patriots are favored for this game..........:gun1:


So? What does that mean? other than those who bet on the Pats tomorrow will lose their shirts for the first time this year.

:hoops:

buddahfan
11-04-2007, 01:35 AM
Because you flat out don't rank a person or team #1 until they beat the defending champ.

Think in the terms of boxing. It's ridiculous to rank a guy #1 before he ever comes face to face with the champ.

Technically, even next week is nothing close to a title fight; however, if the Patriots were to pull one out in Indy I would at least understand it when folks decide to rank them #1.

Before then...... I can't get behind the logic at all.

Its due primarily to the ESPN hype. ESPN always hypes the Boston teams. Since a lot of sports fans get most of their sports from ESPN a great majority of them go along with what ESPN says.

Tomorrow is a big game in that it could be the only loss that either teams sustains this year during the regular season, and if that is the case then tomorrows winner will have the home field advantage for the AFC championship game which will most likely be the the Colts and Pats again like it was last year.

Even though I am a Colts fan I know that Manning has basically never beaten the Pats in New England in the dead of winter. On top of that in the past these games have for some strange reason been held at night which is even worse weather to play in in the middle of winter up in New England.

Even though Manning has changed his approach to his play calling over the years the Colts are built primarily for speed more than any other team in the NFL and as a result they get hurt more than anyone else when they have to play on a snow/ice covered field in 30 degree temperatures.

This is even more true of the Colts defense than it is of their offense.

:hoops:

LA Dre
11-04-2007, 07:40 PM
Well it was a struggle for the Pats, but they did prove that they could come back and win the big game when needed and should be number one in EVERYBODYS poll right now.

Kind of reminded me of the M/MSU game yesterda with the favored team being down 10 on te road and coming back with two TDs down the stretch to silence the home crowd. Cool Mre Brady ...Like the camera kept getting in Mannings face everytime the Pats got a big gainer or score.

Nemo
11-04-2007, 07:42 PM
Patriots win..........24-20......Alpo anyone !!! :)

Dlev59
11-04-2007, 07:44 PM
One question for our friend........



Are you convinced now????

ggazoo69
11-04-2007, 08:17 PM
One question for our friend........



Are you convinced now????

C'mon, Marvin Harrison was out. No way the Pats win with him playing. :)

jammertime
11-04-2007, 08:19 PM
We will find out in less than 24 hours who will be eating dog meat.
You there Buddah? Buddah? Here boy.

:whoo::rockon::cheerlie-GOAL:

Boy, do I enjoy being right. :P

TheeTFD
11-04-2007, 08:26 PM
How does it feel Buddha?

Darth Tater
11-04-2007, 08:34 PM
You guys are harsh. Does Buddah really deserve this?...

Okay, never mind. :pound:

CloudWalker
11-04-2007, 08:34 PM
The Patriots just performed the equivalent of walking into the ICU and punching Mike Tyson in the face as he's recovering from surgery.

Sure...that makes them #1.

They were lucky to leave RCA with a win, and the Colts were fighting with one arm tied behind their backs.

jammertime
11-04-2007, 09:12 PM
The Patriots just performed the equivalent of walking into the ICU and punching Mike Tyson in the face as he's recovering from surgery.

Sure...that makes them #1.

They were lucky to leave RCA with a win, and the Colts were fighting with one arm tied behind their backs.
Sure, going into the 8-0 Defending Champions' home and beating them is exactly like that.

Nemo
11-04-2007, 09:20 PM
C'mon, Marvin Harrison was out. No way the Pats win with him playing. :)


No excuses..........:) The Patriots won.

CloudWalker
11-04-2007, 09:45 PM
Sure, going into the 8-0 Defending Champions' home and beating them is exactly like that.

Offensively.... that's exactly what it was.

basketbills
11-05-2007, 10:43 AM
The Patriots just performed the equivalent of walking into the ICU and punching Mike Tyson in the face as he's recovering from surgery.

Sure...that makes them #1.

They were lucky to leave RCA with a win, and the Colts were fighting with one arm tied behind their backs.

That analogy if pretty outrageous.

In the NFL injuries are expected. Excuses because of injury are not.

Dumars4Ever
11-05-2007, 10:49 AM
If the Colts were so hopelessly depleted, then why were a bunch of people still picking them to win this game? I know the spread favored New England, but plenty of commentators on ESPN, etc. were picking the Colts. It wasn't even remotely like the Cavs-Wizards playoff series last year, where it was over before it began because the Wizards' two best players were hurt.

TaShawn
11-05-2007, 10:53 AM
Lions over the Pats in the Superbowl for the upset of the Phanerozoic* Eon?


* The Phanerozoic Eon is the current eon in the geologic timescale, and the one during which abundant animal life has existed. It covers roughly 545 million years and goes back to the time when diverse hard-shelled animals first appeared.

CloudWalker
11-05-2007, 11:29 AM
That analogy if pretty outrageous.

In the NFL injuries are expected. Excuses because of injury are not.


Excuses for losing the game, not for why a team shouldn't be Patting (heh) themselves on the back for beating a team that wasn't at full strength.

Injuries are expected in boxing as well.

So that means if you go after Iron Mike while he's laid up with a broken arm and leg you're a better fighter when you win.

The analogy is completely appropriate. Yesterdays version of the Colts are in no way close to the team they have when everyone is playing.
If parts of the team are not playing then you don't have the whole team, kindof skews the comparison when all things aren't considered equal doesn't it.


Bottom line: Until the Pats beat the entire Colts team they aren't better than the entire Colts team.

All last night proved is that the Patriots are slightly better than a Colts squad minus their best receiver, his only backup, 2 starting LB's and a starting RT.

That, is the equivalent of me catching D Wade post-op and declaring myself a better basketball player after running around his wheelchair on my way to 21 points.

Nothing outrageous at all about it. Pats won, Colts lost. Thats the end of it though. No way does beating a team at half strength mean that the winning team is better.

CloudWalker
11-05-2007, 11:31 AM
If the Colts were so hopelessly depleted, then why were a bunch of people still picking them to win this game? I know the spread favored New England, but plenty of commentators on ESPN, etc. were picking the Colts. It wasn't even remotely like the Cavs-Wizards playoff series last year, where it was over before it began because the Wizards' two best players were hurt.

There were late gametime scratches in that game D4E, thats why. Harrison wanted to, and was expected to play.

basketbills
11-05-2007, 11:34 AM
Well to start with Boxing is a poor analogy because it isn't a team sport...I mean if it was Manning against Brady and Manning was hurt you could use your analogy Cloud.

Then, of course if Iron Mike was laid up with broken body parts there wouldn't even be a fight to begin with.


Other than that the analogy works, I guess.

Dumars4Ever
11-05-2007, 11:36 AM
There were late gametime scratches in that game D4E, thats why. Harrison wanted to, and was expected to play.

I saw reports about him being out as early as Saturday, maybe Friday. And I saw a lot of people on TV picking the Colts to win on Sunday, when it was already clear that Harrison wasn't going to play.

CloudWalker
11-05-2007, 11:57 AM
I saw reports about him being out as early as Saturday, maybe Friday. And I saw a lot of people on TV picking the Colts to win on Sunday, when it was already clear that Harrison wasn't going to play.

Your facts are wrong.

Locally (Indianapolis) Harrison himself was saying that he expected to play. Sunday when you claim that he was certainly not going to play he had been upgraded from doubtful to uncertain, which coincidentally is the antithesis of "certain".

CloudWalker
11-05-2007, 12:02 PM
Well to start with Boxing is a poor analogy because it isn't a team sport..

The human body is the epitome of team concept. Individual parts working in concert so effortlessly that most are unaware of the parts themselves or the actions they are facilitating (see autonomic nervous system)

It's a wonderful analogy. Marvin Harrison would be Tyson's arm (Offensive punch) and the missing defensive starters would be Tyson's leg (maneuvering him defensively around the ring).

It's really a beautiful thing when you think about it....


I'm going to go Pat (hah!) myself on the back for that one. :)

basketbills
11-05-2007, 12:03 PM
The human body is the epitome of team concept

LOl...good one Cloud! OK...I'll officially accept the analogy.

CloudWalker
11-05-2007, 12:06 PM
Then, of course if Iron Mike the Colts starters was were laid up with broken body parts multiple injuries there it wouldn't even be a fight real game to begin with.





my sentiments exactly.

BillLaimbeer
11-05-2007, 01:36 PM
I think Buddah is avoiding this thread... :pound:

jammertime
11-05-2007, 03:52 PM
I think Buddah is avoiding this thread... :pound:
I think you're right! :cold:

linwood
11-05-2007, 11:19 PM
Pfffft. I'm going to play it safe and wait for them both to play 10 to 12 more games before I start crowning a champion.

Nemo
11-06-2007, 12:22 AM
Excuses for losing the game, not for why a team shouldn't be Patting (heh) themselves on the back for beating a team that wasn't at full strength.

Injuries are expected in boxing as well.

So that means if you go after Iron Mike while he's laid up with a broken arm and leg you're a better fighter when you win.

The analogy is completely appropriate. Yesterdays version of the Colts are in no way close to the team they have when everyone is playing.
If parts of the team are not playing then you don't have the whole team, kindof skews the comparison when all things aren't considered equal doesn't it.


Bottom line: Until the Pats beat the entire Colts team they aren't better than the entire Colts team.

All last night proved is that the Patriots are slightly better than a Colts squad minus their best receiver, his only backup, 2 starting LB's and a starting RT.

That, is the equivalent of me catching D Wade post-op and declaring myself a better basketball player after running around his wheelchair on my way to 21 point.

Nothing outrageous at all about it. Pats won, Colts lost. Thats the end of it though. No way does beating a team at half strength mean that the winning team is better.



Brady came back and won the game in the 4th quarter. Manning fumbled in the fourth quarter. Marvin Harrison's replacement was not involved with either play. Both teams committed a total of 7 turnovers. Harrison could have not stopped any of them. It's simple. Brady got it done after a rough start and Manning went down in flames with his team. New England won, even with a so-so effort. Just think how well they'd have done without those incorrect pass interference calls against their defense and some solid, error free play. They would have won by three touchdowns...........:gun1::gun1:

CloudWalker
11-06-2007, 04:15 AM
Brady came back and won the game in the 4th quarter. Manning fumbled in the fourth quarter. Marvin Harrison's replacement was not involved with either play. Both teams committed a total of 7 turnovers. Harrison could have not stopped any of them. It's simple. Brady got it done after a rough start and Manning went down in flames with his team. New England won, even with a so-so effort. Just think how well they'd have done without those incorrect pass interference calls against their defense and some solid, error free play. They would have won by three touchdowns...........:gun1::gun1:

Perhaps if Manning had more weapons to throw to, the Patriots wouldn't have been able to get away with blitzing him so often.

Any "perceived" incorrect defensive pass interference call is easily outweighed by all the non calls of offensive pass interference on Randy Moss alone.

He's a great receiver but offensive pass interference is his calling card whenever the QB throws deep.

Nemo
11-06-2007, 07:54 AM
Perhaps if Manning had more weapons to throw to, the Patriots wouldn't have been able to get away with blitzing him so often.

Any "perceived" incorrect defensive pass interference call is easily outweighed by all the non calls of offensive pass interference on Randy Moss alone.

He's a great receiver but offensive pass interference is his calling card whenever the QB throws deep.


I enjoy this debate about these two teams. I've been having it with my wife all season long. I really love them both. Figure one of them will win the Super Bowl.........

TaShawn
11-06-2007, 10:47 AM
Pittsburgh looked pretty good last night. It's conceivable that they could rattle one of these QB's. All it takes is one big hit.

BillLaimbeer
11-06-2007, 11:30 AM
Pittsburgh looked pretty good last night. It's conceivable that they could rattle one of these QB's. All it takes is one big hit.

Whatever team that ultimately comes out of the AFC will certainly have their hands full trying to match up with the Lions in the Super Bowl...

basketbills
11-06-2007, 11:46 AM
Whatever team that ultimately comes out of the AFC will certainly have their hands full trying to match up with the Lions in the Super Bowl...


Good Point.

Brady or Manning would have to seriously step up their game.

TaShawn
11-06-2007, 12:18 PM
The only way that they could beat us would be to use illegal video equipment or by manipulating the sound system of the arena.

LA Dre
11-06-2007, 02:03 PM
I know we are joking here, but these last couple of comments sound like those arrogant homer fans of 2004-2006, who thought that the Pistons were unbeatable:)...you all remember them days:sssh: dontcha??

TheeTFD
11-06-2007, 04:00 PM
Ever since Sammy Morris went down I've lost 4 straight fantasy games. he may be Pats best runner. Doesn't equal Harrison but Pats own the league and the exchamps go down hard.
Man up Buddha before we come looking for you in all your other threads.!!

basketbills
11-06-2007, 04:04 PM
I know we are joking here, but these last couple of comments sound like those arrogant homer fans of 2004-2006, who thought that the Pistons were unbeatable:)...you all remember them days:sssh: dontcha??

That's true. But I don't think we could ever match up to the arrogant Lakers fans of the championship year. Those dudes were absolutely certain that they were superior.

Even Mike Hart isn't that arrogant.

mikhail1973
11-06-2007, 05:12 PM
ESPN - Shula suggests asterisk if Patriots go undefeated - NFL (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3097057)


Don Shula likes the Patriots (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=nwe)' chances of going undefeated, but the Bill Belichick-inspired spying scandal has clouded Shula's thinking when comparing New England with his unbeaten 1972 Dolphins team.

"The Spygate thing has diminished what they've accomplished," Shula said in an interview with the New York Daily News. "You would hate to have that attached to your accomplishments. They've got it."

TaShawn
11-06-2007, 05:27 PM
Sounds like Shula is getting worried.

jammertime
11-06-2007, 06:02 PM
Man up Buddha before we come looking for you in all your other threads.!!
Cue the Jaws theme song...

Sounds like Shula is getting worried.
Exactly. I haven't noticed much of a drop off in their play since "Spygate". This team is just good. Period.

mikhail1973
11-06-2007, 06:06 PM
One of the guys at work came wearing a Colts shirt and he's kind of down. I told him not to be upset that Patriots are just better. He's a bandwagon-ass cat anyways. He moved to Cali recently and since local teams stink he decided to root for Indy.

LA Dre
11-06-2007, 11:11 PM
That's true. But I don't think we could ever match up to the arrogant Lakers fans of the championship year. Those dudes were absolutely certain that they were superior.

Even Mike Hart isn't that arrogant.

Laker fan believed that for a whole decade after after losing to Pistons in 89 and and the bulls in 91 that they were still the best team and only because of sudden retirement of Magic in 92 that the Jordans ruled...Once they got Shaq in 97 or so they thought they were the best again and you couldn't tell them nada once they got that first ring in 2000. :sssh:

By the way I am convinced that the Pats are the best until they lose...

buddahfan
11-07-2007, 12:07 AM
I will concede that the Pats are better than the Colts, but not by so much that the Colts might not beat them if the two play each other in the AFC playoffs.

I think that the Steelers may have a shot at beating the Pats, but it will be a long one. Other than that it is looking pretty good for a 16 - 0 season for the Pats.

Does anyone here think that the Powerhouse Lions can beat the Pats if they play in the Super Bowl?

:hoops:

mikhail1973
11-07-2007, 01:36 AM
I will concede that the Pats are better than the Colts, but not by so much that the Colts might not beat them if the two play each other in the AFC playoffs.

I think that the Steelers may have a shot at beating the Pats, but it will be a long one. Other than that it is looking pretty good for a 16 - 0 season for the Pats.

Does anyone here think that the Powerhouse Lions can beat the Pats if they play in the Super Bowl?

:hoops:
Any team can beat any team on any given Sunday.
:yellowprison:

ggazoo69
11-07-2007, 08:44 AM
ESPN - Shula suggests asterisk if Patriots go undefeated - NFL (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3097057)

I agree with Shula. Belichick is a sneaky little s--t. I hope the media make a big deal outta this later on.

buddahfan
11-07-2007, 10:04 AM
Any team can beat any team on any given Sunday.
:yellowprison:

Are you sure about that?

Would you put your money where your mouth is?

As currently configured with personnel assuming no injuries the Dolphins could play the Pat 100 times and they would never beat them

:hoops:

mikhail1973
11-07-2007, 12:04 PM
Are you sure about that?

Would you put your money where your mouth is?

As currently configured with personnel assuming no injuries the Dolphins could play the Pat 100 times and they would never beat them

:hoops:
I am pretty sure about that. Anything is possible. Am I willing to bet my money on it? No. But it is not because I am afraid. I just don't bet. Doesn't matter whether I'm sure of something or not.

TaShawn
11-07-2007, 12:28 PM
I am pretty sure about that. Anything is possible. Am I willing to bet my money on it? No. But it is not because I am afraid. I just don't bet. Doesn't matter whether I'm sure of something or not.

I would really consider it with those 100:1 odds you are giving Buddah.

mikhail1973
11-07-2007, 12:56 PM
I would really consider it with those 100:1 odds you are giving Buddah.
It would take 50 years to find out. :sssh:

jammertime
11-07-2007, 07:20 PM
I am pretty sure about that. Anything is possible. Am I willing to bet my money on it? No. But it is not because I am afraid. I just don't bet. Doesn't matter whether I'm sure of something or not.
I don't bet either, but if I did, I'd be afraid to make that bet. That doesn't mean that they can't beat them, just that they're unlikely to.

Are you sure about that?

Would you put your money where your mouth is?

As currently configured with personnel assuming no injuries the Dolphins could play the Pat 100 times and they would never beat them

You just proved yourself wrong.
That's the exact reason that it's considered GAMBLING. If it was a sure thing, there'd be no such thing as sports betting. Everyone would win.
Why is sports betting such a big deal? Because on any given Sunday, any team can beat another.

It would take 50 years to find out. :sssh:
Touche! :pound::pound::pound:

coynejeremy
11-08-2007, 10:45 AM
I just had this thought: Every year when a few teams are undefeated around halfway through the season, scores of sports analysts are writing stories entitled "Why team X won't finish the season undefeated." Have we been hearing anything like that so far this year about the Patriots? That's scary. This team looks like it has convinced everyone. Even Buddah admits they are the best right now.

round
11-08-2007, 10:51 AM
according to sports bookies at this point the patriots will be atleast 10 point favorites in every game the rest of the seaon? just scary... and now with the shula issue.... this team will not let up, i don't see them overlooking anybody. they do have a few tough games coming up, but i can see them still being undefeated when they host indy. Another great game i'm looking forward to.

TaShawn
11-08-2007, 10:52 AM
It would take 50 years to find out. :sssh:

That's not a problem. I don't have anything going on in the next 50. We'd have to build in an inflation adjustment.

buddahfan
11-26-2007, 08:59 PM
Philadelphia??? takes them down inside the 2:00 minute mark in the 4th quarter in Foxboro before losing.

Stay tuned.

:hoops:

Nemo
11-26-2007, 10:11 PM
Nice game plan by the Eagles and Feeley, the backup QB has a career day. Still with Moss shut down, the other wideouts pick up the slack and the Patriots move on. Kudos though to the Philly offense as they score the most offensive points of any team facing the Patriots.

buddahfan
12-16-2007, 03:38 PM
Patriot fans bombarding officials with ice balls. One actually hit an official.

:hoops:

buddahfan
12-20-2007, 12:28 AM
Harrison is expected to miss his ninth straight game since bruising his left knee, even though Polian said Monday that the knee is healed.
"It's a matter of conditioning now, and until we can put him out there for 60 plays a game, he won't play," Polian said.
As we all know he missed the Colts - Pats first match up this year giving the Patriots a big break. Looking forward to him playing in their rematch during the playoffs.

Colts expect five starters to miss game against Texans - NFL - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=ArJne6iJRBQt8rupFb42HU9DubYF?slug=ap-colts-injuries&prov=ap&type=lgns)

:hoops:

BillLaimbeer
12-20-2007, 10:50 AM
As we all know he missed the Colts - Pats first match up this year giving the Patriots a big break. Looking forward to him playing in their rematch during the playoffs.

You're assuming both teams make it to the AFC Finals. The Colts barely beat Oakland last week... :stirthepot:

Nemo
12-20-2007, 09:02 PM
You're assuming both teams make it to the AFC Finals. The Colts barely beat Oakland last week... :stirthepot:

That would be as bad as the Patriots only winning by 3 against the Dolphins......:stirthepot: