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mikhail1973
11-02-2007, 01:33 PM
Season 2006/2007

Record 49-33

A pretty successful season by Baby Bulls. The last time the team had as many as 49 wins was in 1998. There were negatives as well – Nocioni’s injury, inconsistency of Gordon, and, of course, Ben Wallace. While I wouldn’t say that he played badly, but the expectations were quite high. Maybe more energy, more team spirit. So far it looks like a loss for all sides. Pistons lost one of their leader. Chicago didn’t get who they were hoping to get. Big Ben lost his home.
Skiles has been directing the team for the past four years, but he still can’t figure out what to do with Ben Gordon. If he has him starting – he plays poorly, put him back on the bench – the results are there right away. In the first round of the playoffs Chicago got rid of the wounded lion just like they were supposed to: quickly and without any sentiments, not giving Miami any chances for a comeback. Next round they were taught a lesson themselves.

Offseason

Draft

Joakim Noah, Aaron Gray, JamesOn Curry.
How successful was the draft for Chicago? During his college years, Noah stood out with his hard work more than his talent. The question is why does Chicago need someone like him where at least half of the team consists of energetic forwards?

Key Trades

Acquired: Joe Smith. Smith still can provide 15-20 minutes of solid average basketball.

Offseason grade: C

Season 2007/2008

A player with a post presence will make a championship contender out of this team. That’s what many basketball writers are saying. But it is not as simple as that. Sure, on paper it all looks great. However, in real life those combinations are not quite as strong. If the team does get that player who will play near the basket it will solve many problems. But it will create many others. Many of Skiles’ playing schemes will be broken.
Bulls can make that jump without a Gasol-type player. But there are no doubts that they need some kind of addition – probably more psychological than low post. If you try to draw parallels between this Bulls team and the “older brother” – Pistons team, it is very obvious what Chicago is lacking. In the beginning of 2004 Detroit, at that time coached by Larry Brown had the same strong characteristics as today’s Chicago team. Defense, character, athletics, several defenders. Even Big Ben was there, a younger version. That team had varied playoff success before they got Rasheed Wallace. He brought his niche play to the offense and leadership qualities. He gave the team that last push it needed to get over the championship hurdle.
It absolutely doesn’t mean that Chicago should try to get the second Wallace from Detroit. Everything in its due time. Wallace’s place and time was at that time in Detroit. But each team has its own Rasheed Wallace. What does he look like and what position does he play? Maybe it is not a center, but a swingman playing on the West Coast. Who knows? But it is a fact that so far Chicago has been unable to find its Rasheed Wallace.
The team relies heavily on Heinrich-Gordon-Deng trio. The same sniper – one game an advantage and another a disadvantage. He is the most inconsistent out of the leadership trio but who is never afraid to take a deciding shot. The same playmaker that disappears during the important games. The same forward who can do everything on the court. The best player of the three is at the same time the softest of the three. He’s least qualified to be the leader. So, how many leaders do Bulls have – three or none?


Note of importance

Skiles love Tyrus Thomas and looks like he may earn a place in the starting rotation. Sefolosha after a good series against one-armed Wade got a local Bruce Bowen status. Nocioni got a new contract. Noah was drafted. Not sure why the team still needs Victor Khryapa and whether the guy will find any playing time.


Bottom Line

The team will be an inconvenient opponent to many, but I just don’t see them being able to beat the likes of Detroit and San Antonio, at least not yet.

Playoffs – yes
Championship – no

mikhail1973
11-20-2007, 01:18 PM
The Chicago Sports Review | chicagosportsreview.com (http://www.chicagosportsreview.com/inthemeantime/contentview.asp?c=204254)

Given all this doom and gloom, is all hope lost for the Bulls? No, not quite yet. Even if I let my heart blind me to the real team when I thought they could win the East, they are not THIS bad.

The Bulls are still a playoff team. What they need to do is play the way they did in the first quarter against the Clippers. They got defensive stops, then beat the Clippers down the floor for fast breaks. Running and gunning is the only way this team will get easy baskets, and that is really important for a team that starts Ben Wallace at center.

mikhail1973
11-20-2007, 01:33 PM
Should the Bulls Fire Scott Skiles? - FanHouse - AOL Sports Blog (http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007/11/19/should-the-bulls-fire-scott-skiles/)

If you asked your average NBA fan what the Bulls' biggest weakness is, most would probably recite the well-worn mantra repeated throughout the mainstream media and blogosphere alike: the team needs a low-post scorer. But while this is true, I'm starting to wonder if there's not a more pressing need on this team: a change of leadership on the sidelines.

TaShawn
11-20-2007, 02:19 PM
Would Laimbeer run into the same problem after a year or so as a head coach? Team burnout.

buddahfan
11-20-2007, 02:36 PM
Would Laimbeer run into the same problem after a year or so as a head coach? Team burnout.

He hasn't with the Shock. Are you implying that the Shock players are tougher than the Pistons players? Interesting point of view.

:hoops:

TaShawn
11-20-2007, 02:53 PM
He hasn't with the Shock. Are you implying that the Shock players are tougher than the Pistons players? Interesting point of view.

:hoops:

Are you implying that they aren't? Even more interesting.

mikhail1973
11-20-2007, 03:32 PM
Swin Cash seemed to have burned out. Not sure about the rest of the team.

buddahfan
11-20-2007, 04:45 PM
Are you implying that they aren't? Even more interesting.

How many titles have the Shock win under Bad Boy Bill and how many titles did the Pistons win under Brown?


:hoops:

TaShawn
11-20-2007, 04:59 PM
How many titles have the Shock win under Bad Boy Bill and how many titles did the Pistons win under Brown?


:hoops:

I totally agree.

aurora
11-20-2007, 06:14 PM
I love the season preview Mikhail. It's very well written and thought out. I have a question though. What do you or anyone else think about this frequent reference to how small the team is by the announcers continually? No one really talked about how small everyone was last year when they were playing well. It was all about their weapon being speed and dexterity, wasn't it? Anyway, do you guys think the Bulls starters are just too small for NBA success? And if so, how did they do so well last year? Do the teams have their number somehow now even this early? Or are they just playing like doo doo? Or is everyone mad and anxious because they might be a Laker tomorrow? Answers anyone? It's quite a significant meltdown this team is having.

TaShawn
11-21-2007, 01:21 AM
Watched that Bulls game with a bunch of Chicago fans tonight and they were pretty depressed.

Hinrich and AI get a little chippy, then Kirk goes on tilt and the Nugs open up a 20 point lead. It's shocking how much worse they are since last year with no real changes.

buddahfan
11-21-2007, 01:11 PM
The Bulls are a total mess.

Both Gorden and Deng turned down contract extensions and most likely want out.

This is franchise that hasn't done squat since Michael ruled the roost and isn't going to be doing squat in the near future.

:hoops:

buddahfan
11-21-2007, 01:53 PM
by Marcel Mutoni
Scott Skiles isn’t your typical NBA coach. That is to say, he doesn’t understand some of the nuances involved in the delicate art and science of leading young, obscenely rich men into battle. To be blunt, when God handed out people skills, let’s just say Scott Skiles wasn’t on the receiving end.
Before last night’s drubbing in Denver, an enterprising reporter asked the fiery Bulls coach why Tyrus Thomas’s minutes had been trimmed down recently, and Skiles went on a tirade against the young forward. From the Chicago Sun Times (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/basketball/bulls/660410,CST-SPT-bullnt21.article):‘’We ask [Thomas] to sprint the floor,'’ Skiles said. ‘’To my knowledge, in his career, he hasn’t done it one time — not one time. You guys, sit and watch the game tonight. If he gets in there, is he jogging or is he sprinting the floor?”


I think Skiles must be watching too many Western Conference games. LOL

SLAM ONLINE | » Scott Skiles vs Ty Thomas (http://slamonline.com/online/2007/11/scott-skiles-vs-ty-thomas/)

:hoops:

TaShawn
11-21-2007, 02:09 PM
Is it possible that Tyrus Thomas is flat out ignoring him and absolutely refuses to run hard?

This is the same kid who said that the only reason he was showing up for the dunk contest was for the $$$. "I'm just into the free money. That's it. I'll just do whatever when I get out there."

Ignoring Skiles for a minute, TT might be on a different planet.

detteam
11-21-2007, 02:50 PM
I didn't see the game but know Gordon stunk it up going 2-14.

I think a lot of Bull's players are PO'd about Wallace's contract and his lack of production. Plus the intangible of veteran leadership the Bull's thought they were getting when they bought him has been non-existent...his heart's not in it. Looks like Paxson shot himself in the foot.

If Flip was not here, I think Ben would have remained a Piston.

Nemo
11-25-2007, 09:56 AM
I didn't see the game but know Gordon stunk it up going 2-14.

I think a lot of Bull's players are PO'd about Wallace's contract and his lack of production. Plus the intangible of veteran leadership the Bull's thought they were getting when they bought him has been non-existent...his heart's not in it. Looks like Paxson shot himself in the foot.

If Flip was not here, I think Ben would have remained a Piston.


I hate to say this, but then I'm glad that Flip is here. Ben seems burned out with his whole NBA experience. He tried to get his mojo going last season, but now his career seems like it's over.

buddahfan
11-25-2007, 12:31 PM
I hate to say this, but then I'm glad that Flip is here. Ben seems burned out with his whole NBA experience. He tried to get his mojo going last season, but now his career seems like it's over.

All of us here who have spent years working out, know that it starts to get a more difficult to maintain and improve your conditioning and muscular endowment as you get beyond thirty

The phrase no pain no gain applies even more so as you get older. Big Ben has had a sterling NBA career because he worked his butt off for years on and off the court.

He is now wealthy probably beyond anything he could have imagined when he was growing up or even when he was in college.

Age and wealth make it a lot harder to be willing to endure the pain that it takes to maintain your body at a competitive level, especially when you are in an environment that you aren't to crazy about.

:hoops:

Nemo
11-25-2007, 03:56 PM
All of us here who have spent years working out, know that it starts to get a more difficult to maintain and improve your conditioning and muscular endowment as you get beyond thirty

The phrase no pain no gain applies even more so as you get older. Big Ben has had a sterling NBA career because he worked his butt off for years on and off the court.

He is now wealthy probably beyond anything he could have imagined when he was growing up or even when he was in college.

Age and wealth make it a lot harder to be willing to endure the pain that it takes to maintain your body at a competitive level, especially when you are in an environment that you aren't to crazy about.

:hoops:



:p_welldone: :ouch:

LA Dre
11-25-2007, 04:30 PM
Bulls looked awful today too. How about trading Ben Wallace, Ben Gordon, Tyrus Thomas and Scott Skiles for Rip, Flip Jr, Nazr and Flip sr. ...

Both teams need a shakeup.,:stirthepot:.

We know Big Bens limtations, but he fits better here, especially without Saunders

pass99
11-27-2007, 02:02 AM
The team has quit within itself and especially on Skiles.

The league (especially through international hype) has created millionaire youngsters and as long as the the super-stars and media story hypes continue, then you will have residual fallout around the edges of those making the playoffs. They all end up becoming subservient to any form of minor talent, because (exhibition-on-parade) form will determine the nature of the content and everyone wants to belong.

Ben Gordon and Luol Deng thought it was their right in automatically getting their extensions. Looking around the league, can you blame them? Only Cleveland is holding out. They also know that a front-office trade was wanted and this was another psychological blow (immature as it may seem).

As mentioned before, the team has quit on Skiles. Skiles knows this and a look into his psyche was provided when he "reamed" Thomas. This whole concept of quitting is so foreign to Skiles, that it appears the team is a the point of no return, because he has nothing more to give them. He will be lucky to last the year.

The heat will be on Paxton to make a worthy trade. He will choke, of course, during this season and take the easier route...fire Skiles.

GM's have nine lives.

Dumars4Ever
11-30-2007, 02:06 PM
I don't have a subscription to ESPN Insider, but the Daily Dime posted an excerpt from John Hollinger's recent article (http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insider/columns/story?columnist=hollinger_john&page=Bulls-071129)about how the Bulls are historically bad on offense so far this season:


Chicago was a mediocre offensive team a season ago, ranking only 20th among the league's 30 teams. The Bulls were in similar straits then at the 13-game mark. However, this season they've taken a quantum leap backward.

Chicago is dead last in the league in Offensive Efficiency, and even that doesn't do justice to the team's awfulness. The Bulls are producing a meager 89.1 points per 100 possessions. In a league where the median team nets 103.0, that is unspeakably bad. For some historical perspective, consider that if they keep this up they will rank as the worst offensive team in history relative to the league.

Breaking down the team stats, the mystery becomes more perplexing. Again, effort doesn't seem to be the problem. Chicago is playing at the same pace as a season ago. It turns the ball over about as much, gets about as many offensive rebounds, and shoots the same number of 3-pointers. Everything about the Bulls' offense seems exactly the same, except they're drawing slightly fewer fouls.

Oh, except there's one other little detail: They can't make a shot.

dba
11-30-2007, 02:57 PM
It all started when I drafted Hinrich for my fantasy team.

He used to be a good player.

TaShawn
11-30-2007, 03:15 PM
That's still pretty good considering they are playing 4 on 5.

dba
11-30-2007, 03:40 PM
I also drafted Ben. They're lucky to still be in the league.

Dumars4Ever
11-30-2007, 03:41 PM
So dba, can we re-do the fantasy draft and also let you pick all of the Celtics' Big 3?

:laugh:

dba
11-30-2007, 03:50 PM
Last year I aided the Pistons cause by getting eight or nine opponent's players injured. This year I'm going for subtle and merely ruining the opposition's shooting percentage.

mikhail1973
12-11-2007, 03:55 PM
Bulls Breakdown: Nothing But Bull in Chicago - Bleacher Report (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/4590-NBA-Chicago_Bulls-Bulls_Breakdown_Nothing_But_Bull-091207)


A Friday night victory over a listless Pistons team may be the spark Chicago needs to turn its season around.

Despite the win, though, the Bulls looked every bit like a 5-11 squad for most of the game.