Anyone interested in participating in a Scrubs league for this season, this is your signup point. I'm hoping we can get enough people together but if we don't get at least 6, I will abort the league. This will be a weekly league, so should not be high maintenance at all. (Even for you who are already in 4 leagues) =]

I'm aiming at a start in Week 3 which is Monday November 12, with a live draft sometime before then.

Please state your interest in this thread and I will get back to you with a league ID and password.

Details:
Draft Type: Live Draft
Max Teams: 12
Scoring Type: Head-to-Head
Max Moves: No maximum
Max Trades: No maximum
Trade Reject Time: 2
Trade End Date: March 6, 2008
Waiver Time: 2 days
Can't Cut List Provider: Yahoo! Sports
Trade Review: League Votes
Post Draft Players: Follow Waiver Rules
Weekly Deadline: Weekly on Monday
Start Scoring on: Week 3
Roster Positions: PG, SG, SF, PF, C, Util, BN, BN, BN
Stat Categories: FG%, FT%, 3PTM, PTS, REB, AST, ST, BLK


I am going to be taking the 'Non-draftable player list' from ESPN's pre-season fantasy rankings list, because the Yahoo one is unreliable and changes as was seen last season. And will start from rank 150 onwards at this stage but is not set in stone.
I will provide everyone who plays this list so they can exclude the correct players accordingly.

Fire away! :gun1:


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Here is the exclude list taken from ESPN's pre-season rankings. However I have made 1 amendment. All Rookie's are draftable - with the exception of Kevin Durant (Because he is so far ahead of the rest and not a real scrub/sleeper).
Rookie's are fun to follow and are usually unfairly highly ranked prior to the season by excited "experts". Hopefully everyone is happy with that arrangement.

Now, once you have joined the league, go to Draft Central --> Pre-draft Rankings --> Edit My Rankings, then move all players on the exclude list to the left and save it. Bingo!

Roscoe/admin - Is it possible to move this post to the 2nd post in the thread? Cheers!

http://geocities.com/fisichella11/exclude_list.jpg

I'm in. Low maintenance league. Should be good fun like last year.

i'm in!

Count me in too.

I'm in. Love the scrubs.

I'm in too, since I won that league last year- still waitin' for my avatar below my user name!

Here is the exclude list taken from ESPN's pre-season rankings. However I have made 1 amendment. All Rookie's are draftable - with the exception of Kevin Durant (Because he is so far ahead of the rest and not a real scrub/sleeper).
Rookie's are fun to follow and are usually unfairly highly ranked prior to the season by excited "experts". Hopefully everyone is happy with that arrangement.

Now, once you have joined the league, go to Draft Central --> Pre-draft Rankings --> Edit My Rankings, then move all players on the exclude list to the left and save it. Bingo!

Roscoe/admin - Is it possible to move this post to the 2nd post in the thread? Cheers!

http://geocities.com/fisichella11/exclude_list.jpg

Confirmed GM's
webz
roscoe
ralphie
warthog
aurora
dre

Interested but not yet joined
linwood
low


More people welcome.

Here is the exclude list taken from ESPN's pre-season rankings. However I have made 1 amendment. All Rookie's are draftable - with the exception of Kevin Durant (Because he is so far ahead of the rest and not a real scrub/sleeper).
Rookie's are fun to follow and are usually unfairly highly ranked prior to the season by excited "experts". Hopefully everyone is happy with that arrangement.

Now, once you have joined the league, go to Draft Central --> Pre-draft Rankings --> Edit My Rankings, then move all players on the exclude list to the left and save it. Bingo!

Roscoe/admin - Is it possible to move this post to the 2nd post in the thread? Cheers!

http://geocities.com/fisichella11/exclude_list.jpg
Webz, are we excluding the top 140 or top 150?

Webz, are we excluding the top 140 or top 150?

I went with top 140 (the guys on that list).

just note that it is NOT the same as the yahoo top 140 and you'll just have to exclude those guys prior to the draft.

Linwood, Low...sign up already! Scrub league is really fun because everyone is such a crapshoot regarding how much playing time they'll get, how they'll do in spite of any pre-NBA accolades. If you look at the ESPN list that webz posted above you can well ask yourself "wait a second who is left?". But another great reason for playing scrubs league is because if you get familiar with some of these guys games this year, you can draft them in round 9-12 next year and maybe have a major sleeper guy.

Webz just a note here: Did you notice how different the Top Player list is in ESPN and Yahoo? It's alot the same guys but the order is way different. I happen to think that the ESPN list is more accurate in terms of rankings but maybe not in terms of fantasy statistics. Also when I look at that list I realize how few really great players there are. I mean there are some scrubs in the top 140 for sure.

Can't wait for the draft.

Allright, I'll sign up allready!

I actually played last year. I think we had a foul catagory that just killed me. I performed as well in the scrub league as I do in all my other fantasy leagues: last of second to last.

I went with top 140 (the guys on that list).

just note that it is NOT the same as the yahoo top 140 and you'll just have to exclude those guys prior to the draft.


OK thanks I did that so, I just need to pre-rank these scrubs.:)

I went with top 140 (the guys on that list).

just note that it is NOT the same as the yahoo top 140 and you'll just have to exclude those guys prior to the draft.

Oh yeah you definitely want to get the top 140 in exclude in plenty of time before the draft. It didn't take forever, but it took me about 10 minutes to do that.

Now Webz I am so confused. I swear I saw a post already announcing the draft happening Wed 11/7 at 4 pm Pacific. Maybe it was on the League homepage. I'll do the poll, but I have it on my calendar and arranged to go to my sisters who has a more reliable computer. No worries though, I'll just tell her whenever our draft turns out to be, I need her computer. Non-negotiable. LOL.

Without giving too much away, I think I may go with an all UK lineup for my scrubs team.

:pound:Excellent idea! I don't think there are enough Fighting Illini in the NBA for me to do that. I suppose I could do all Big 10 though. Hmmm.:stirthepot:

P.S. Linwood, the Pistons are here in Seattle next Sunday. Are you going?My sister and I just bought killer seats (even better than last year) right near the Pistons bench. We are near the tunnel where they have to pass us to go into the locker room. I'm so psyched. PM me. I hope you go!

:pound:Excellent idea! I don't think there are enough Fighting Illini in the NBA for me to do that. I suppose I could do all Big 10 though. Hmmm.:stirthepot:

P.S. Linwood, the Pistons are here in Seattle next Sunday. Are you going?My sister and I just bought killer seats (even better than last year) right near the Pistons bench. We are near the tunnel where they have to pass us to go into the locker room. I'm so psyched. PM me. I hope you go!

I just deleted my all UK post so I wouldn't give away my secret strategy!:pound:

I am going to the game on Sunday. It's my birthday, and Mrs. Linwood is buying 10 tickets so all my friends can go too. Our seats won't be that great (because we are not rich!), but we will be forming a Maxiell row, with each of us wearing a T-Shirt with one letter on it, and the number 54!

I will see you there, and we can hang out before and after the game. Maybe we can hang out during the game if my top secret Sneak Down To Better Seats plan works out!

Webz just a note here: Did you notice how different the Top Player list is in ESPN and Yahoo? It's alot the same guys but the order is way different. I happen to think that the ESPN list is more accurate in terms of rankings but maybe not in terms of fantasy statistics. Also when I look at that list I realize how few really great players there are. I mean there are some scrubs in the top 140 for sure.


Yes I noticed that. The ESPN list is more accurate and even though there are still a lot of scrubs in the 140, remember that ESPN's was a pre-season ranking, whereas yahoo's constantly updates. That caused us problems last year when trying to pick up waiver guys. So having a set list to go off makes more sense.

I would have been able to make a more accurate top 140 myself I think but I chose one of the net to help remain impartial.



Now Webz I am so confused. I swear I saw a post already announcing the draft happening Wed 11/7 at 4 pm Pacific. Maybe it was on the League homepage. I'll do the poll, but I have it on my calendar and arranged to go to my sisters who has a more reliable computer. No worries though, I'll just tell her whenever our draft turns out to be, I need her computer. Non-negotiable. LOL.

So sorry aurora, I just set that date because it was in the future. You've noticed I moved it to Saturday, but that's just another tentative date. I will go off the results of the poll and will set a concrete date/time on wednesday. I will PM everyone when that's been decided. I apologise about your plans.


Any other questions let me know.

P.S. Linwood, the Pistons are here in Seattle next Sunday. Are you going?My sister and I just bought killer seats (even better than last year) right near the Pistons bench. We are near the tunnel where they have to pass us to go into the locker room. I'm so psyched. PM me. I hope you go!

Thats cool you guys. I was actually entertaining thoughts of going to that game because I am about 4 hours from Vancouver. I guess I won't be going now because of costs and it is still a long trip to get there, but it would have been my first NBA game.

Hopefully I can get to one later in the season. Have fun.

Thats cool you guys. I was actually entertaining thoughts of going to that game because I am about 4 hours from Vancouver. I guess I won't be going now because of costs and it is still a long trip to get there, but it would have been my first NBA game.

Hopefully I can get to one later in the season. Have fun.

Wow, that would be great. The Pistons play Portland the following Tuesday. I went last year and my friend got courtside tickets from his boss. I'm hoping he will come through again this year!

I am going to the game on Sunday. It's my birthday, and Mrs. Linwood is buying 10 tickets so all my friends can go too. Our seats won't be that great (because we are not rich!), but we will be forming a Maxiell row, with each of us wearing a T-Shirt with one letter on it, and the number 54!

M-A-X-I-E-L-L-5-4 ... what's the 10th?

M-A-X-I-E-L-L-5-4 ... what's the 10th?

Space.

cool cool. you could also do '#'

Confirmed GM's
webz
roscoe
ralphie
warthog
aurora
dre
linwood
detteam


We currently have 8 GM's which is great. There is still time for some last-minute additions. But we would need an even number.

Good luck at the draft everyone.

Confirmed GM's
webz
roscoe
ralphie
warthog
aurora
dre
linwood
detteam


We currently have 8 GM's which is great. There is still time for some last-minute additions. But we would need an even number.

Good luck at the draft everyone.

I'll join, assuming we can get a 10th team.

The info you requested to be moved webz, has been placed in Post 1 at the bottom. In the future, please use the report post button (hazard sign) on each post to notify a staffer to accommodate any thread alterations.

Just an idea. If I can get that list as text, I can post it and people will be able to search it alphabetically. That should save the problem of tracking down players individually by having to read the entire list.

The info you requested to be moved webz, has been placed in Post 1 at the bottom. In the future, please use the report post button (hazard sign) on each post to notify a staffer to accommodate any thread alterations.

Just an idea. If I can get that list as text, I can post it and people will be able to search it alphabetically. That should save the problem of tracking down players individually by having to read the entire list.

OK cool. Thanks for the help. I will remember that.

Text list on the way.

i won't be around for the draft, so i pre-ranked...and hopefully that works out okay!!

So who is excluded? Is it yahoo's pre-season top 140?

So who is excluded? Is it yahoo's pre-season top 140?


no check the first post of this thread. its too late to pre-rank now. if you didn't get a chance to exclude you can always check with me on the chat before you pick. or have the first post open in another window.

Thanks webz. I just went thru my list and crossed out the excluded.

I thot I was prepared...NOT :pound:

Okay, who knows how this weekly roster setting works? I've always been in daily leagues. It's 2:20 am Pacific after the Sonics/Pistons game and I can't seem to set the lineups for the week. I hope I don't blow the week's matchup!

P.S. Oops. I just read an email from the Commish saying I'd be able to move around my lineup on Monday. Technically, it's Monday but pretty darn early. I'm all amped up from see the Pistons live! Such a thrill to see them live for me!!

oh wow didn't realize this was weekly lineups! should make it interesting

Okay, who knows how this weekly roster setting works? I've always been in daily leagues. It's 2:20 am Pacific after the Sonics/Pistons game and I can't seem to set the lineups for the week. I hope I don't blow the week's matchup!

P.S. Oops. I just read an email from the Commish saying I'd be able to move around my lineup on Monday. Technically, it's Monday but pretty darn early. I'm all amped up from see the Pistons live! Such a thrill to see them live for me!!

Sorry, what I meant was you should be able to move around your lineups on Sunday, for the week starting on Monday. It was probably too late seeing as it was after midnight.

You should be locked in by now.

Sorry, what I meant was you should be able to move around your lineups on Sunday, for the week starting on Monday. It was probably too late seeing as it was after midnight.

You should be locked in by now.


Yeah I didn't realizw what you meant about "weekly" until after the draft. Even though you only have to touch it once a week, it still seems like more work on the weekend trying to figure out who you are going to bench for a whole week. Should be interesting....I need to go back read the first page of the thread, but I assume that if we need add/drop from the waiver wire, it takes affect the following Monday??

Yeah I didn't realizw what you meant about "weekly" until after the draft. Even though you only have to touch it once a week, it still seems like more work on the weekend trying to figure out who you are going to bench for a whole week. Should be interesting....I need to go back read the first page of the thread, but I assume that if we need add/drop from the waiver wire, it takes affect the following Monday??

Correct. If you put them in your starting lineup. That's why we have bench spots.

So if one of your guys is only playing 2 games for the week, you might want to bench him for someone who is playing 4.

To save you time figuring out how many games everyone is playing there are fantasy websites out there that tell you for free.

Correct. If you put them in your starting lineup. That's why we have bench spots.

So if one of your guys is only playing 2 games for the week, you might want to bench him for someone who is playing 4.

To save you time figuring out how many games everyone is playing there are fantasy websites out there that tell you for free.

I just use the built in Opponents button on the toolbar to tell me whose playing that week and how many games and hope that whomever I decide to go with will have plenty of PT...since a couple of these guys may be true scrubs:)

I just use the built in Opponents button on the toolbar to tell me whose playing that week and how many games and hope that whomever I decide to go with will have plenty of PT...since a couple of these guys may be true scrubs:)

or that. i always forget about using those yahoo functions.

considering this is a scrubs league, there are still a fair number of good players out there on the wire.

wow dre i didn't know about that...pretty sweet. i've got both lowry and conley, just in case one stays in favor of the other over the course of the season :)

i've been trying 'edit lineup' all day but then when i click back on 'My Team' it doesn't show the changes...i hope it worked for this week...

i've been trying 'edit lineup' all day but then when i click back on 'My Team' it doesn't show the changes...i hope it worked for this week...

warthog, if webz's post above is correct you have to finish your edit lineup BEFORE Monday...I was trying to edit mine at 2:15 am this morning and it wouldn't save the changes. I think we're both stuck with our unedited teams this week. dang.

One week no big deal. At least you didnt screw up and forget to set your exclusion list like me! :(

Yes, you need to set your lineups before midnight Sunday night (PST)
I could probably go back and find about 5 posts where I mentioned it was a weekly league. All the information is right there in the league settings. Sorry if it didn't work out for you this week, but I'm sure it won't cost your season.

Check out this link I found.

What is the deadline for making transactions? - Yahoo! Sports Fantasy Basketball (http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/basketball/transactions/hoops-19.html)

One week no big deal. At least you didnt screw up and forget to set your exclusion list like me! :(

AH HA! There you are. :detective: Alright fellas. We can call off the search now.