At Golden State November 14th, 10:30 PM

TV - FSN Detroit, NBALP


The Warriors will be the third winless team the Pistons have faced in the last week. Last years giant killers will be looking for their first win of the season against the Pistons, they are 0-5.

Another team with zero wins. It is not going to be easy. Back to back with loaded minutes to the starters and two starter injuries.

I hope we outscore the temperature in CA today.

Some places expect to hit 100

I hope we outscore the temperature in CA today.

Some places expect to hit 100
It's 70's here in the valley.
:)

I hope we outscore the temperature in CA today.

Some places expect to hit 100

Only expected to be 87 degrees out here in the Inland Empire today....Pistons will need more than that for a win...:)

With tonight's opponent (Golden State) having been off for five days the Pistons will need as many healthy bodies as possible to contend with the Warrior's helter-skelter style of play.
That likely means playing time for Hunter, who has yet to appear in a game this season.
"We just want to get him (Hunter) out there, to do what he does," Saunders said. "Defend for us, knock down open shots, get us in our offense ... give us three or four really good minutes."


I am wondering about what Flip is thinking and how his thinking process works. What can a player possibly accomplish in 3 or 4 minutes??? I wonder if he's thinking that by giving Arron and Amir 5 minutes in a game gives them enough playing experience to grow their games? Heck, if my math is correct 5 minutes is more than 50% longer than 3 minutes.

MLive.com: Everything Michigan (http://www.mlive.com/pistons/index.ssf/2007/11/hunter_may_spell_ailing_billup.html)

Antonio McDyess re-aggravated the stretched ligaments in his left shoulder and had to leave the game with 6:30 left. X-rays taken afterward were negative, but he was in great pain and questionable for Wednesday's game against the Golden State Warriors.

Billups sat in the locker room Tuesday night with ice bags on both his right hip and left knee. The hip injury, believed to be a bone bruise, came courtesy of a Channing Frye knee. Billups later twisted his left knee.

"We won't know anything until closer to game time," coach Flip Saunders said. "We will just have to see."

If they can't play, the Pistons probably will start Flip Murray at point guard and either Jason Maxiell or Jarvis Hayes at power forward. The Warriors deploy a small lineup, so the Pistons could get by with Hayes up front.

Starters Billups, McDyess questionable (http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071114/UPDATE/711140481/1127/SPORTS0102)

Good, let the reserves play. Hopefully Amir can finally get on the court, that is if Lindsey won't eat up all of his allotment. I just don't get it, does it take injuries to the starters to force Flip to play bench?

Only expected to be 87 degrees out here in the Inland Empire today....Pistons will need more than that for a win...:)

You are correct on both accounts

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Chat.... IS..... OPEN!!!!

http://www.pistonsforum.com/misc.php?do=flashchat

Chauncey is out tonight. Flip Murray will start, and Lindsey Hunter will backup @ PG.

So far at halftime, the Warriors are winning the track meet 64-51. GSW scored 40 in the first and got up to 20 point lead, but Pistons close the half on 14-5 run to make it respectable. Warriors made 8 "uncontested treys".

Amir saw a little over 8 mis in the second scoring 3 pts and grabbing 3 boards and an assist. He was a +6 and the only Piston on the positive side

Wow, what a win! I bailed out of chat in the 2nd quarter with the Pistons getting destroyed by 20. No defense, no rebounding, no nothing as the Ws got whatever they wanted. As if on cue, the Pistons made a little run to end the half once I left chat, and they kept it going in the 2nd half all the way to the win. Props to Flip Jr for dishing out 12 assists, Rasheed for taking over in the 4th, and Tay with a big 2nd half as well to help key the comeback.

The weird thing about this game was how utterly ice cold the Warriors got in the 2nd half. Flip Sr. stuck with the zone all the way, and even though GS was still getting a lot of good looks in the 2nd half, they were simply unable to knock them down. The key improvement on D for the Pistons after halftime was that their rebounding picked up big-time, limiting the Warriors to very few 2nd chance points after getting slaughtered in that category in the 1st half.

Hopefully CB at least can come back healthy to key the finish to what might still shape up as a very good West coast swing. But the Lakers have been playing a lot of good ball recently.

Most improbable win of the season.

Live and die by the 3 point try. GS with 34 3PA's!!!

Mohammed, Jarvis, and Lindsey were the only 3 pistons in negative territory tonight.


Here is the thing about Flip Murray. His A-game is about 100 times greater than Nazr's A-game. They should not be lumped in the same category anymore.

Great win. Coach was slow with the adjustments but they did come--finally. Please act sooner. Maxiel can put up numbers with the minutes.

Hats off to the team.

I forgot to give ups to JMax as well. 14 boards, 10 of them on defense, plus 14 points with 4-6 from the line (2 important ones in the last minute) in 43 big minutes.

Here is the thing about Flip Murray. His A-game is about 100 times greater than Nazr's A-game. They should not be lumped in the same category anymore.

These open court games are probably the ones where he has the highest value, particularly if we're talking about games where he's starting, like we saw at Phoenix last season. You still have to live with some bonehead mistakes, but there are so many possessions available for him to create or get to the rim that he can still be a pretty big positive factor.

For the record, us playing our young guys still has not cost us a game. Anyone out there disagree?


Tonight, Amir got his most ever important minutes in a real game, one that matters. And Afflalo was in there with him as we started our climb back in the 2nd quarter. And both should have gotten more still. At the end of the 3rd quarter, Amir got a co-block on one end, fed Afflalo inside who turned and hit the shot. Good stuff, and Afflalo also made two free throws right there. Result: Flip Saunders pulled them both out of the game. We were just 3 behind, and we went down ten after that. Also, Flip could have used Afflalo a lot in the first half, instead of having Flip Murray spectate as Davis killed us. Adjustments? The biggest by far was to put Tay on Davis in the 2nd half.


Though Flip Murray as usual was horrid on D, he was part of a very good run in the 3rd quarter, where our defense held. I see someone said he had 12 assists. And he scored a lot too, including a pair of time expiring shots at the end of quarters. Perfect, no, but not that much to complain about altogether on the offensive end for Murray tonight.
Hunter played some, not bad. But he was just as useless guarding Davis as Flip was in the first half.


Tay was our scoring hero in the 3rd, with 10 points. This was inside and out. Remember an earlier game where Tay missed some shots? That was practice, and that practice paid off tonight.


Sheed took it over in the 4th, hitting 3's but just as importantly working the post to with great results. Does not hurt that the other team has to contend with a certain fireball of energy named Jason Maxiell too.
Jason was pretty awesome in this one. He was the only Piston gathering in offensive rebounds early. He hit some outside shots, he made those two clutch free throws late, 10 defensive rebounds, darn good D. 14 points (or 13?).


Amir's only offensive highlight was a delayed fast break dunk. He did make a pair of free throws too after fighting for a rebound and getting fouled.


Hayes hit a shot, and he kept Tay off the floor for a good spell in the 2nd quarter. It all helps. I don't recall him playing much in the 2nd half though.


For much of the game, Rip just could not hit a shot, but that changed late in the 4th as we finished GS off. Rip's a shooter, and he must keep on shooting. (But maybe he could slow it down just a bit when a teammate is in can't miss mode, or when we are destroying the other team by going inside.)


It was sure nice to see JMAX go inside on them very early in the game. Gee, we could have that every game. Just a coach's decision away. (Dyess did have the one monster shooting game, but remember, he was unguarded - unless you actually think Kaman represents a defender - not)


Mohammed played. Why I could not tell you. It has been mentioned that we cut 2 points off the lead with him in for a minute or two early the 4th. Does not sound like much to me.


Its hard to believe anyone would fret over us missing two starters. Considering how inept Flip Saunders is at finding time for our young guys, the more starters missing the better for now. Afflalo and Amir have to play. JMAX must play more. That all happened tonight, which makes it not just a good win, but a very good game indeed as to what matters, preparation for the playoffs. If Dyess wants to really help the team, and same for Billups, they will take their sweet time coming back from their injuries.


GO PISTONS!!!!!

Amir's only offensive highlight was a delayed fast break dunk. He did make a pair of free throws too after fighting for a rebound and getting fouled.


I guess the wire services got it wrong. It wouldn't be the first time.

NBA - Detroit Pistons/Golden State Warriors Box Score Wednesday November 14, 2007 - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore;_ylt=Al11yXlzF9eJLv9KvOejBTCQvLYF?gid=200 7111409)


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Lee, first off you are gansta for the late night write-up. I don't know how accurate it is to say that the lead went to 10 when they took Amir out. To me it was when Sheed went to the bench that the lead (re-)swelled. Also, didn't they put Maxey back in at that point?

I think Big Flip did a nice job tonight. I don't know what adjustments he should have made sooner. You can't play zone for a whole game. It'll get picked apart. I would have like to seen him argue the lane violation a little more. The game was close though.

TaShawn, you are right about Flip. I can't figure his turnovers out. It's not like he's trying to imitate Hot Sauce, he just goes straight and loses the ball. In a lot of ways he bothers me the least of their guards.

I would like to think these injuries could be a blessing. I thought the same thing after playing in Phoenix lasat year also though. I was surprised by how few AA and MJ actually played. It seemed like they were out there longer. MJ might have a role this year - they can use his exuberance, but AA should definitely play. If he can't find his way onto the floor, then none of these coaches are worth spit. (Man am I glad I didn't start a fight with someone on my walk to work the morning after the draft!)

After seeing MJ in real games this year what does everyone think, is MJ 6'9" or 6'!!"? I go with the former.

Also, what do you make of Sheed's T's? He has done the same stuff this year as any other to earn at least some of the BS ones. Either the refs must be aware heading into games how many T's a players has in a current year when they ponder the calls or they have backed off because of the Donaghy stuff.

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Originally Posted by Lee356
Amir's only offensive highlight was a delayed fast break dunk. He did make a pair of free throws too after fighting for a rebound and getting fouled.
I guess the wire services got it wrong. It wouldn't be the first time.
Originally Posted by Buddahfan
Isn't fighting an ejectable offense? Might be without Dysse and MJ for the Lakers.

the big thing in this game is that Rip wasn't shooting ridiculously like last game--I think when Tay ggets more shots--the better off we are. we need to re-evaluate the "go to" person in this offense IMO

An improbable win was what it was. Even if they had lost this one in the closing seconds not sure if there was anything to complain about other than our poorus defense of the three point arc in the first 3 quarters.

To comeback from a 22 point deficit, when most of the Pistons fan east of the mississippi had turn out the lights and fell asleep is tribute to the diehards who stayed beyond the first qtr massacre. A 40-25 GSW lead looked insurmountable with no Billups or Dice, but we did have one thing on our side. Pistonforum member Mikhail1973 was in the arena and we don't lose win one of us forum roadies attend a Piston road game. :) Thanks for being our sixth man Mik.:nod::thumb:

Baron Davis came out lighting it up with Harrington and Barnes and then they disappeared in the second half. meanwhile the guys in red decided that the game was not over and chipped away first in the second qtr and then in the third trimming it down to 3 by the end of third and finally catching them at 96, before moving ahead 101-98 on a 3 ball by Sheed I believe and never looked back. Hopefully the earlybirds had their TIVO/DVR's set up. But skip to the the second half.

Pistons outboarded the Warriors by one and outpointed them in paint 46-42.

The zone defense set up by Flip in the 3rd took care of business and got the Pistons back in the game. The warriors continued to toss up three pointers and was 8/13 in the first half but only 5 for 20 in the second half.

Double/doubles by Flip jr and Max prove that the Pistons have a bench and can win without starters playing tons of minutes....in this case none for CB and Dice. Only 16 points from the real bench, but everybody contributed and the Warrior bench only scored 9 points with only Monta Ellis getting substantial PT

Anybody notce that Nelly pulled a Flip and played Davis 45 mins and Azubuike played the entire 48!!!

Great win, comeback and statement game for Flips follies...

I don't know if it is reevaluating Rip and Tay's role or getting back to playing Rip to his strengths.

Whither DET's offensive rebounding? Didn't they used to be a good O rebounding club? I sometimes wonder if the word isn't out on them, play Rip and Tay rough & make CB give it up.

Then sometimes I think if Stuckey can efficiently score at the hoop and not turn the ball over then they can win as is. No bench, heavy minutes Big Flip and all.

Fun game. But I refuse to overlook the issues. I really feel The Low. I will not be fooled by this fool's gold. Now more than ever I am convinced Flip has to go. This team has a vibe that will not play hard for 48mins. I do not like it at all. When was the last Piston game we have seen where a team played hard (win or lose) for 48mins?? I can not recall one single game in the Saunders era. Again fun game to watch, but I still do not see the heart of a champion in a Pistons uniform. Is Stuckey going to be that good to where he takes a bunch of complacent-lackadaisacal vets and make them play harder and hungrier? I'm almost at the point where I feel Rip and/or Chauncey need to be traded because the Edge is GONE. I wonder if LA would do a Billups+Hamilton+1st rd pick, for Kobe and Farmar??

I think the other guys stepped up knowing that Billups and Dyess were out. All the starters had great games.

Maxiel is certainly making a good case for being a starter. Send Dyess back to the bench where his mins can be reduced to something he can handle.

Also have to thank the Nelson system of aways playing the same way no matter the score. All the quick shots they took really helped the Pistons get back into this one once they stopped falling.

Still can't believe we won though. Total dominance in the 2nd half. Pistons actually won the 2nd quarter by a small margin and never looked back. Take away the 1st quarter and it was quit a blowout from there.
Amazing how much Barron Davis cooled off, it was like watching a different player out there after the 1st.

6-2. Onto LA

Well, the PistonsForum karma worked again. I went to the game and Pistons ended up with a win. To tell you the truth I was quietly watching the 1st quarter and a half while my wife kept asking me "what's happened to the team?" I just kept ignoring those questions knowing that the game is long and it is too early. The Pistons tightened the screws on defense and clogged the middle daring Golden State to shoot 3-pointers which they happily did. The law of averages took over and the shots that went in early on started rimming and bouncing out. We all know that even the best 3-point shooting teams shoot around 40%. The ball movement got quite a bit better as the game went on. Funny, but offense stagnated when plays went through Rip with everyone else just standing watching him. But a great win after all. We had loads of fun. Next to us sat some other Pistons fans and at the end of the game we had a fun argument going with the Warriors fans that sat behind us. One of the guys that was sitting behind me dropped his cell behind my seat and I spent about half of the last minute of the game looking for his darn phone and battery. The arena looked kind of small, especially comparing it to the Palace. We were sitting in the 1st row of the upper deck which was pretty decent view but not too good of a point to take pictures since I wasn't allowed to bring a zoom lens in.

Here're some snaps from the game:
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/5166/001wi3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
We got there a bit early, so I took a stroll down closer to the court. Tay was working on something with Porter.
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/6374/002ia5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Sheed was shooting jumpers
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/9523/003vz0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Nazr was working on some post moves with Curry and Super Dupe was doing some shooting as well.
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/2451/004pp6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
tip-off
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/1237/005wp7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Sheed was a beast in the 4th
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/8536/006jj8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Pistons Win!

Great pix, tks Mikhail, big ups for you.:good:

Wishing someday I could attend a real Pistons game.

Its a travesty that Afflalo/Amir/Max dont get substantial consistent minutes every game. We just look so much better with speed in the line up, and if the starters were all playing only 30 min or so, i think they would push themselves harder.

Flip's sub patterns need to change if we're not moving Rip to the bench.

I agree w/ KGREG though. Fool's gold. Fun game, but not really something to get excited about until we know things WILL change.

I want some props for calling the comeback when D4 bailed.

This was the first Pistons game I watched on TV this season (we get less than 10 Pistons regular season games here).

Rip seemed to be creating this own shots now. I feel he was more effective moving without the ball and getting passes off screens, rather than slashing.

First time I saw Amir getting meaningful playing time. His dunk in traffic was effortless. Even if McDyess was not around, I think FlipS would not have played him much had Sheed not been in foul trouble (sigh).

Also first time I saw Afflalo play. I really loved Maxiell's energy too. Now I know why fans are excited to see Stuckey/Afflalo/Hayes/JMax/Amir play together.

Except for a couple of airballs, Sheed was a absolute monster. It was nice to see him posting up, banging with Biedrins and shooting over Harrington. I remember the Warriors TV commetators saying something like, "Sheed can do anything Garnett can do, and he shoots 3s better.... he only needs to bring it night in and night out".

I would like to think these injuries could be a blessing. I thought the same thing after playing in Phoenix lasat year also though. I was surprised by how few AA and MJ actually played. It seemed like they were out there longer. MJ might have a role this year - they can use his exuberance, but AA should definitely play. If he can't find his way onto the floor, then none of these coaches are worth spit. (Man am I glad I didn't start a fight with someone on my walk to work the morning after the draft!)

After seeing MJ in real games this year what does everyone think, is MJ 6'9" or 6'!!"? I go with the former.


Seriously, who's MJ?

After seeing MJ in real games this year what does everyone think, is MJ 6'9" or 6'!!"? I go with the former.


Who is MJ?

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I want some props for calling the comeback when D4 bailed.

Roscoe, you were correct. At halftime, you told everyone that "things would be okay, the Pistons were fine." Too bad your superior knowledge of the Pistons doesn't translate to any of your fantasy teams. :pound:

What is J-Max thinking? Doesn't he know that having a solid game will only land him on the bench for the next game? When will he learn?

Same goes for Afflalo and his 1-for-1 and 2-for-2 shooting effort. That'll get you nowhere on this team kid. You'd better smarten up.

AJ, your 1-for-2, 1-for-2, 4 boards, 2 dishes and a block in 10 minutes isn't earning you any points in Flips books as long as that lone turnover sticks out on your stat line like a twitchy neck.

What is J-Max thinking? Doesn't he know that having a solid game will only land him on the bench for the next game? When will he learn?

Same goes for Afflalo and his 1-for-1 and 2-for-2 shooting effort. That'll get you nowhere on this team kid. You'd better smarten up.

AJ, your 1-for-2, 1-for-2, 4 boards, 2 dishes and a block in 10 minutes isn't earning you any points in Flips books as long as that lone turnover sticks out on your stat line like a twitchy neck.

Can't you just enjoy the win, Mr. Sarcasm? Saunders did actually make a nice adjustment by sticking with that zone defense throughout the second half. The Warriors could no longer pick-and-roll and Nellie had no answer.

Even though we played zone in the 2nd half and GS cooled down, I'm not convinced that the two were related. After they made so many in the first half, I was shocked to see how many open looks they got in the 2nd. They just flat out missed them. 9 times out of 10, they would have won that game with those same looks. They weren't killing us inside, so I'm not sure why we couldn't push out on them further.

The impressive part was that we kept going with high percentage shots ourselves. We never tried to make up the deficit all at once. And I would like to think that if GS would have drained a few more and we would have come up short, that we'd all appreciate the effort.

AJ, your 1-for-2, 1-for-2, 4 boards, 2 dishes and a block in 10 minutes isn't earning you any points in Flips books as long as that lone turnover sticks out on your stat line like a twitchy neck.

Actually the 3 second violation on offense creating his one turnover is a good turnover because it shows that he is getting into the lane which is more than most of our bigs do and not camping outside of it shooting mostly all jump shots.

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Can't you just enjoy the win, Mr. Sarcasm?
Let me think about it....um.... nope. Not with Twitch Saunders at the helm.

I've tried giving him the benefit of the doubt. He talks a nice game, but then almost NEVER backs it up when it counts. The only way the bench gets any PT is when he is FORCED to play them due to injury. Even blow outs aren't a guarantee. He's been known to go with the starters late in games with 20 point leads/deficits.

I just saw this comment on a Warriors blog. Gotta feel bad for them, but it's pretty funny:

can somebody bring in the heat or have the warriors play themselves so we can have a win

The starting lineup definitely needs to change. Since we know Rip or Tay won't be sent to the bench, how bout at least moving Dice to the bench and starting Max.

Second night in a row, the opposing teams' announcers are on one hand preparing their teams TV fans about the heralded Piston defense on the other hand praising their team for penetrating it. That heralded defense disappeared a couple of years ago, but does pop up on occassion.

Props to Roscoe who in the Chat room "quoted Alicia Keys" by saying that everything will be alright" before he bailed prior to halftime.

Props also to Mikhail for being at the game and providing the Karma forum vibe to his favorite team. I asked the question in the chat room wondering if you were still there when it appeared that all was lost, but jzchen assured me with the tickets so high, you would stay to the end:).. thanks for hangin in there bro and thanks for the nice pics.

Golden State's announcers were unusually good I thought.

They knew their stuff and brought up interesting stats.

MJ = Amir Johnson

Roscoe, you were correct. At halftime, you told everyone that "things would be okay, the Pistons were fine." Too bad your superior knowledge of the Pistons doesn't translate to any of your fantasy teams. :pound:
You had to qualify it. :(

I just saw this comment on a Warriors blog. Gotta feel bad for them, but it's pretty funny:
Uhm, did you make it back for the comeback, friend?

Uhm, did you make it back for the comeback, friend?

I watched the whole comeback but I was still staying out of chat. Then I popped back in during the final minute to celebrate the win. I think we need a separate smiley for this.

Bandwagon A$% Cat

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how bout at least moving Dice to the bench and starting Max.
I'm in complete agreement with you on that.

The starting lineup definitely needs to change. Since we know Rip or Tay won't be sent to the bench, how bout at least moving Dice to the bench and starting Max.

Second night in a row, the opposing teams' announcers are on one hand preparing their teams TV fans about the heralded Piston defense on the other hand praising their team for penetrating it. That heralded defense disappeared a couple of years ago, but does pop up on occassion.

Props to Roscoe who in the Chat room "quoted Alicia Keys" by saying that everything will be alright" before he bailed prior to halftime.

Props also to Mikhail for being at the game and providing the Karma forum vibe to his favorite team. I asked the question in the chat room wondering if you were still there when it appeared that all was lost, but jzchen assured me with the tickets so high, you would stay to the end:).. thanks for hangin in there bro and thanks for the nice pics.

Having Max start and bring Dyess off the bench....hmmmm?..:sssh: where I heard that b4????:MusicBigGrin:

Roscoe qouted ALICIA KEYS? :pound::pound::pound:Next he'll e singing along to BizMarkee!!!

THis game really slapped me in the face. So my qtr by qtr will be real wack today:

1st QTR: All I kept saying was "typical-typical-typical!" I knew I saw the blow out coming with GSW having nothin 2 lose. We were lucky to be down 15-40, but watching Davis does remind me of me. I was WILD!!


2nd qtr: My tirade on Rip begins. Maybe we can trade him for a 1st round pick and let Tay have his shots. It seems the league has him figured out. Is the baby keeping him up late? Lead is 22 .I just turned tv off. Will watch in the morning.....zzzzzzzzzz

3rd qtr: Wondering why no babe shots in the crowd?(now i know...Mikhail swallowed them up!) Pistons go zone. "Dum-dum-dum..Great MOVE!!" 2 BONEHEAD PLAYS BY Ronald McHated! Warriors regain control..it seems.

4th qtr: Sheed, Tay and Max take over. This game is so simple , aint it? Work through your bigs and u win games. The defense just wore GSW outt! I am very impressed. Two well coached games by Flip this year.

I ma not happy with the motivation to start the game, but by fighting back as such, I am very enzyted about this win sans Chauncey and Dyess.

THREE :cheers::cheers::cheers:: Sheed, Max and Tay

THREE:doh::doh::doh:: ronald, Hayes and Rip


good pix, Mikhail...


6-2, not bad...thats a 61-21 season!

Give Ronald a break, HQ. He had one of his better games as a Piston. 15 pts and 12 asst is nothing to sneeze at.
:)

this was the best piston's win in awhile. i was sitting there getting frustrated again in the 1st half, but i did feel better about the game and our chances of winning than when we played portland, even though the deficit was far greater.

we were terrible in the 1st half and flip murray got lit up by baron davis. davis is sweet though, and chauncey has trouble with him too. i'll give credit to saunders for appropriately adjusting in the 2nd half, playing zone and letting tay guard davis. murray did seem to be lost at times on this, wanting to guard davis when it was no longer his responsibility.

the best part of this game was that we had 10 guys play around 10 or more minutes each, and we still came back from a 22-point deficit and won against a desperate, well-rested team.

maxiell - 14 points, 14 rebounds, 5 assists, 3 blocks, 1 steal, making over 50% of his shots and free throws, including 2 in the clutch. only 3 fouls in 44 minutes. take away the few times he dribbled in the lane and got it swiped and he would've had a perfect game.

sheed - unguardable.

biedrins reminds me of amir in that they are both good at putting the ball in the hoop close to the basket, even though it doesn't always look all that pretty.

i was sitting there getting frustrated again in the 1st half, but i did feel better about the game and our chances of winning than when we played portland, even though the deficit was far greater.

Imagine how I felt surrounded by the Warriors fans. That place sure is loud.

6-2, not bad...thats a 61-21 season!

Also, 6 of these games were on the road and most were against West coast teams... and starters have been out.

Also, 6 of these games were on the road and most were against West coast teams... and starters have been out.
Yeah, but 82-0 looks better than 61-21.
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biedrins reminds me of amir in that they are both good at putting the ball in the hoop close to the basket, even though it doesn't always look all that pretty.

I don't know about Biedrins but AJ can knock em down from the elbow to the arc.

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Roscoe qouted ALICIA KEYS? :pound::pound::pound:Next he'll e singing along to BizMarkee!!!

! I'm sure it purely a coincident, his words just sounded just like the lyrics of her new song...but then again, maybe he had the song on the background when he typed it in..:djparty:

biedrins reminds me of amir in that they are both good at putting the ball in the hoop close to the basket, even though it doesn't always look all that pretty.

Biedrins plays the whole game in the paint or within 3 feet of the hoop. I could have sworn on one of his hoops, that he came from out of bounds (maybe from sitting in the first row behind the hoop:)) received a pass and scored the basket.

Biedrins plays the whole game in the paint or within 3 feet of the hoop. I could have sworn on one of his hoops, that he came from out of bounds (maybe from sitting in the first row behind the hoop:)) received a pass and scored the basket.
I saw that play. Wasn't sure where he came from because the view was blocked out by the hoop support.

Give Ronald a break, HQ. He had one of his better games as a Piston. 15 pts and 12 asst is nothing to sneeze at.
:)

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-chooooo!!!!:pound:

I don't listen to much music anymore. I'm really digging the sound of silence when I'm not immersed in rich media. :)

I'm sure it purely a coincident, his words just sounded just like the lyrics of her new song...but then again, maybe he had the song on the background when he typed it in..:djparty: