Milwaukee Dec 31 3:30PM

tv: FSN

The Bucks try to improve on their 2-14 road record as they come into town to challenge the Pistons 8 game winning streak.

This is supposed to be an easy game. I hope pistons could give us a nice new year present by blowing out the bucks.

Go Pistons and happy new year to all piston fans.

Thanks Adonis! :D

This is an early game! Note the time!

This is supposed to be an easy game. I hope pistons could give us a nice new year present by blowing out the bucks.

Go Pistons and happy new year to all piston fans.

They will most likely win. But they can win in a way that helps prepare for the playoffs, or not.

Here is the wrong way: Play the starters all 31 minutes by the end of the 3rd quarter. If its a close game, the starters all end up getting about 40 minutes and your bench gets no burn, no development time.

Also, if those starters all have 31 minutes by the end of the 3rd quarter, and the 4th is all garbage time, you still get no real development of your bench. Garbage time is not nearly as useful as minutes in the regular rotation.

So here is how it should go:

The starters play most of the 1st quarter. The starters sit out the whole 2nd quarter. With 4 minutes left in the 3rd quarter, start putting in the 2nd unit. By the end of the 3rd quarter, no starter should have played more than 27 minutes.

Now if the game is close, the starters come back in for the last 6 minutes, and end up at around 33 minutes each.

If the game is a blowout, the 2nd unit ends up getting some garbage time to compliment the time they got in the 2nd quarter.

In any case, you did not just waste another game. You did not just waste another opportunity to develop the bench. The playoffs are upon us. The time is now to develop the bench.

In sum, what is important in this game is how it leads to victories in June.

Might have this on Sirius while the Bowl games are on.

Chat's open, feel free to join in the fun.

Easy win.

Stuckey was ALOT better this game. The ball really moved this time when he was on the floor. Hermann played well. Afflalo was solid as usual.

I'm really starting to like the Stuckey/Afflalo tandem. They play off eachother well.

Great game.

AJ needs to strengthen his hands. He loses too many rebounds after he gets the rebound

:hoops:

Biggest blowout of the year, 114-69. It was a 13 point game after the first quarter, and never seemed to get any closer after that. Rip and CB led the way on offense, Rip 9-10 from the floor, and CB with 12 assists and no turnovers. The Bucks fumbled their chances away early with 9 turnovers in the first quarter. It was domination all the way, with garbage time being the biggest margin of any quarter, actually... 28-12 in the 4th.

Everyone played at least 7 minutes in this one, with Herrmann getting 8 near the end in his most productive minutes yet. The big news rotation-wise was that Flip went with Stuckey and AA together in the backcourt for almost the entire 2nd quarter, even playing them with the starting front line for a few minutes near the end of the half. They did a nice job and followed up the 28-15 first quarter with a 28-22 second quarter. Amir didn't get any burn until garbage time.

But he is starting to play better.

He just needs to keep working hard and it will come.

Right now he is behind Maxey, so minutes will be tough for him to get unless Flipper plays them together.

:hoops:

Good game, starters got pulled early. Stuckey is getting better, but we'll have to see how he does against better defensive teams. Afflalo can handle the ball, and that'll help Stuckey along the way. On thing I didn't like was Dyess and Sheed playing over 30 minutes, especially Dyess. No need for that. He could really be wearing out in the playoffs. Not sure why he was still on the floor with a 20+ point lead. Fabio looked good, Brezec looked strange. Seems that he's trying to do too much to impress. I know he has some skills, but they've been negated by his overbearing approach. That could be seen when he dove for the ball with 30 seconds to go in the game and 40+ point lead which caused a very incredulous look on Sheed's face. Sheed didn't do much, but he didn't have too. He was solid defensively and he set his teammates up for easy scores. He also added a couple of hoops in the 3rd. J-Max didn't play as much, but he was productive, as was Hayes. Hayes needs to take a few more shots a bit closer in as he's been operating from 18+ feet out for the most part. That won't be a high percentage shot, no matter who you are. Rip is turning into a robotic scoring machine - 9 for 10 from the floor for the guard, and shooting over 60% over the past several games. Scary stuff, but good for Pistons. Anyway, a good win to close out the season. Blaha and Kelser ran out of adjectives to describe the win and the team, it was kind of funny. Pistons just keep rolling.

But he is starting to play better.

He just needs to keep working hard and it will come.

Right now he is behind Maxey, so minutes will be tough for him to get unless Flipper plays them together.

:hoops:

He's not going to develop as quickly if he doesn't get the minutes, but it looks like Pistons won't count on Amir in the playoffs this year, and will have Brezec as a back up big. He's been getting off the bench earlier than Amir. By the looks of it, at least so far, he's going to start getting more burn next season. Hopefully I'm wrong and he gets all kinds of minutes this season, we'll have to wait and see.

A matinee laugher at the Palace as the Pistons post an easy 45 point victory and every Piston scores. They also had 33 assists and at one point near the end of the game had more dimes than boards.

Rip played about 27 mins and was 9/10 from the field to lead the Pistons..CB had 12 assists, 13 points and breakaway hanging dunk. Dice had another double-double with 10/10.. Tay took the most shots so looks like he's coming out of his passiveness and Hayes continued his hot shooting of the bench with 6/9 shooting.

Stuckey continues to improve and handed out 7 dimes and scored 6 points as the bench contributed 47 points including 8 from Herrmman who entered the game with a little over 6 mins left for prerequesite garbage time.

Bucks??? a ton of turnovers in the first half (I think 9 in the first qtr??) 32 points in the second half half. Here is a team going in the opposite direction.

Happy New year!!

A matinee laugher at the Palace as the Pistons post an easy 45 point victory and every Piston scores. They also had 33 assists and at one point near the end of the game had more dimes than boards.

Rip played about 27 mins and was 9/10 from the field to lead the Pistons..CB had 12 assists, 13 points and breakaway hanging dunk. Dice had another double-double with 10/10.. Tay took the most shots so looks like he's coming out of his passiveness and Hayes continued his hot shooting of the bench with 6/9 shooting.

Stuckey continues to improve and handed out 7 dimes and scored 6 points as the bench contributed 47 points including 8 from Herrmman who entered the game with a little over 6 mins left for prerequesite garbage time.

Bucks??? a ton of turnovers in the first half (I think 9 in the first qtr??) 32 points in the second half half. Here is a team going in the opposite direction.

Happy New year!!
Bucks got manhandled. They'll keep getting better with Yi learning the game and all the youngsters developing.
I was wondering if Chauncey would get T'd for hanging on the rim. :MusicBigGrin:

Bucks got manhandled. They'll keep getting better with Yi learning the game and all the youngsters developing.
I was wondering if Chauncey would get T'd for hanging on the rim. :MusicBigGrin:

I thought so too since it was obvious he was doing it for show, but have not seen that call made at all this season...refs must have been told to relax...?

I thought so too since it was obvious he was doing it for show, but have not seen that call made at all this season...refs must have been told to relax...?

I think they call it more when someone misses a dunk and keeps hanging on the rim and tries to get the ball, I don't know. But it is a good thing they didn't call it here. Refs also know the players tendencies, and they know that Chauncey is not a dunker.

He's not going to develop as quickly if he doesn't get the minutes, but it looks like Pistons won't count on Amir in the playoffs this year, and will have Brezec as a back up big. He's been getting off the bench earlier than Amir. By the looks of it, at least so far, he's going to start getting more burn next season. Hopefully I'm wrong and he gets all kinds of minutes this season, we'll have to wait and see.

It is way too early to determine if AJ will get playoff burn.

Most likely you are correct.

But he is now starting to get his rhythm and confidence after being sidelined with that ankle injury which I am sure was still bothering him even after he started to play.

So we will see.

:hoops:

He's not going to develop as quickly if he doesn't get the minutes, but it looks like Pistons won't count on Amir in the playoffs this year, and will have Brezec as a back up big. He's been getting off the bench earlier than Amir. By the looks of it, at least so far, he's going to start getting more burn next season. Hopefully I'm wrong and he gets all kinds of minutes this season, we'll have to wait and see.
Isn't it way too early to make that claim. Brezecs timeline is potentially much shorter (trade dedline) than Amirs. The staff needs to complete their evaluation of both Brezec and Herrmann by then if trades are to be considered. Two months (after deadline) is plenty of time to groom Amir as long as everyone else (AA, RS, JM) is well unway.

A 45 point squashing of the Bucks. Amir Johnson's putback slam gave us that final margin.


The only thing I read anyone complaining about for Amir in this one is that he did not hang on to a couple of rebounds. But in both cases, we got the ball since the ball went out of bounds off the opposing player who was fighting him for the ball. He still did his job. Just did not credit for two more rebounds.


Saunders gets a B for this game. He played Stuckey and Afflalo almost the entire 2nd quarter. Good job there for sure. But yet Sheed only got 4 minutes rest thru 3 quarters of basketball. Sheed, who went scoreless in the first half, really did not have to play that long. I don't think we would have lost the game if Amir had gotten 6 minutes in the 2nd quarter.


Another minor improvement. Why did Tay come back in for the end of the 2nd quarter? Herrmann could have gotten some minutes right there. But hey, thats minor. Tay got a good long rest by Hayes there before he came back into the game. And why did Rip and Dyess start the 4th quarter with us up 29? Again, minor, no big deal. But you still got to wonder why. What would we be saying though if Rip got injured right there in meaningless minutes?


Ok, some details about the game. Rip is way past on fire. The very ground buckles from the heat as he walks on it. Nine for 10 today, and that goes with the last few games where he is just not missing. He is hitting triples. He is hitting pull up jumpers on the fast break or off a curl. He went inside once or twice. Rip is getting just so automatic its amazing and then some.


Billups I think had a double double. 12 assists with no turnovers. Dyess had a double double with 10 points, 10 rebounds. Tay was agressive with 11 in the first half. JMAX continues to nail outside jumpers, getting steadier and steadier at it.


Stuckey got inside for about 3 layins. Two were the conventional sort where you catch them napping a bit and lay it in. But one was of the oh my variety, laying it in right over their bigs, going right down the middle and upwards.


Afflalo scored a couple of times impressively taking it in, and I think on a fast break once. Good solid D. By the way, Stuckey looked a lot more comfortable on D too, but yet you got to remember Milwaukee played this game without a point guard.


Herrmann hit several jumpers. I can't remember him missing any. Pretty nice shooting. Defensively? Well, Milwaukee only scored 12 points in the 4th, so how can anyone complain about anything to do with D while Herrmann was in. 114-69. Unbelievalbe. Yeah, I had to type that twice to get it right. I still don't believe it.


Brezec did nothing much. But nothing bad either. He hustles all the time. He does not look to score much. That is probably because this year Charlotte was starting him, but playing him very little while going to Okafur (sp) for the post ops. He did have two offensive rebounds on the same sequence that resulted in him getting to the line. He made one of two. Talk about earning your point.


Hayes did real well. Several more jumpers made. The announcers pointed out that he was like 10 for 13 going back a game or so. I am still thinking its no coinkydink that Hayes started doing better the day we dressed Fabio for the first time.


Dyess did a pretty good mixture of working inside and out. No complaint there today.



One quick note about the game flow. The starters handed Stuckey a sizeable lead. That lead dwindled a bit the first couple of minutes as Milwaukee had a 7-0 run. Good job by Flip to stick with the youngsters though, as they responded with an 8-0 run after a timeout and the Pistons just kept it on overdrive the rest of the game. A bit of youth and energy does indeed work. (and in my ever so humble opinion, if they had not put Sheed back in with no rest, that run by Milwaukee may not have happened.)



Lots of games coming up yet this week. Should be loads of fun.


PLAY AMIR!!!!!


GO PISTONS!!!!!

Another minor improvement. Why did Tay come back in for the end of the 2nd quarter? Herrmann could have gotten some minutes right there. But hey, thats minor. Tay got a good long rest by Hayes there before he came back into the game.

I think Tay only came in for the last second of the first half. CB hit 2 free throws with under a second left, and Bogut tried to go long downcourt on the inbounds, but it flew over everyone's head and went out of bounds before anyone touched it. So the Pistons got the ball back from the spot of the inbounds, right under the basket they were attacking. Flip put Tay back in just to throw the inbound pass to try to score, but his pass to CB was tipped away.

Brezec is trying too hard right now and looks worse, than he actually is.
Should relax a little.:)
But more important - he is allways a big fighter and happy and ready to be a role player in Pistons - that makes him eventually interesting long term...
I believe he could guard some big guys in playoffs.

The only thing I read anyone complaining about for Amir in this one is that he did not hang on to a couple of rebounds. But in both cases, we got the ball since the ball went out of bounds off the opposing player who was fighting him for the ball. He still did his job. Just did not credit for two more rebounds.

PLAY AMIR!!!!!


GO PISTONS!!!!!

This is not a one game problem with him. It is a problem right now. He needs to be able to hold on to his rebounds better. Maybe it is technique, lack of awareness, maybe his hands are not strong enough or maybe both.

He needs to improve in this area.

:hoops:

This is not a one game problem with him. It is a problem right now. He needs to be able to hold on to his rebounds better. Maybe it is technique, lack of awareness, maybe his hands are not strong enough or maybe both.

He needs to improve in this area.

:hoops:

Since he is already our best rebounder, why are you bringing this up? Me, I just take it as proof that Amir Johnson needs more playing time. Immediately.

I think Tay only came in for the last second of the first half. CB hit 2 free throws with under a second left, and Bogut tried to go long downcourt on the inbounds, but it flew over everyone's head and went out of bounds before anyone touched it. So the Pistons got the ball back from the spot of the inbounds, right under the basket they were attacking. Flip put Tay back in just to throw the inbound pass to try to score, but his pass to CB was tipped away.

Tay played the last five minutes of the 1st half.

I think Tay only came in for the last second of the first half. CB hit 2 free throws with under a second left, and Bogut tried to go long downcourt on the inbounds, but it flew over everyone's head and went out of bounds before anyone touched it. So the Pistons got the ball back from the spot of the inbounds, right under the basket they were attacking. Flip put Tay back in just to throw the inbound pass to try to score, but his pass to CB was tipped away.
That was the end of the 1st qtr. But the way we were beating them it probably seemed like 2qtrs worth of whoopass..................

Tay played the last five minutes of the 1st half.

Checking the play-by-play on NBA.com, I see that Tay came in for the final second of the first quarter, not the first half, so I had remembered that wrong. Hayes replaced him with 2:03 left in the first quarter, and then Tay came back in with 3:54 left in the first half (in addition to that final second of the first quarter).

Hayes did real well. Several more jumpers made. The announcers pointed out that he was like 10 for 13 going back a game or so. I am still thinking its no coinkydink that Hayes started doing better the day we dressed Fabio for the first time.




Huh?

You just said earlier that Jarvis has been playing well the last two games!

Also, Hayes is a jump shooter, you can`t be actually saying he started making his shots because someone else dressed.

He is a very streaky shooter, he will have droughts, he will also have very hot streaky periods. Jarvis Hayes having the mindset of - "uh oh, he got dressed, I better start making my shots", is comical at best.

Huh?

You just said earlier that Jarvis has been playing well the last two games!

Also, Hayes is a jump shooter, you can`t be actually saying he started making his shots because someone else dressed.

He is a very streaky shooter, he will have droughts, he will also have very hot streaky periods. Jarvis Hayes having the mindset of - "uh oh, he got dressed, I better start making my shots", is comical at best.

It's a valid point. Hayes has been picking it up defensively, and hustling like i haven't seen before; so it's more than just shooting. He's also playing more in the flow of the offense.

Competition will make you focus, and that's what it looks like it's done to him.

Amir was getting hacked. Give him credit for being everywhere at once.

That was probably the greatest game I've seen in quite some time.

The Pistons have entered into a feedback loop. The better the starters play, the more time and leash the bench gets, which means the bench plays better, which means the starters don't need to play as much, which means that they play better when they do play... and so on.

We just held a team below the seventy point barrier with 99 bench minutes!!! Chauney had 25 min to 23 for Stuckey.

If you can't enjoy this game, then you're probably not capable of enjoying anything. And the dive by Bresek with a 40-point lead and 30 seconds on the clock... with the camera going straight to Sheed's face? Wow.

It's a valid point. Hayes has been picking it up defensively, and hustling like i haven't seen before; so it's more than just shooting. He's also playing more in the flow of the offense.

Competition will make you focus, and that's what it looks like it's done to him.

Hayes does have a history of being a streaky jump shooter. However, he is only 26. Further, he has had a series of knee problems / surgeries to really muck up his career so far. We don't know just how good he can get, not just on his shooting, but on his defense as his knees truly do return toward 100% One other thing, before the knee problems, Hayes was more than just a jump shooter. Maybe he can even start working inside for us more as time and healing goes on.

Huh?

You just said earlier that Jarvis has been playing well the last two games!

Also, Hayes is a jump shooter, you can`t be actually saying he started making his shots because someone else dressed.

He is a very streaky shooter, he will have droughts, he will also have very hot streaky periods. Jarvis Hayes having the mindset of - "uh oh, he got dressed, I better start making my shots", is comical at best.

Anyone who has ever played competively knows that competition brings out the best. Hayes, according to the announcers, realized he was rushing his shots a bit, and started taking a bit more time on his shots. Relaxing a bit more I think is how they put it. But where did that bit of insight come from. Maybe it was while realizing that someone else might be taking his minutes. Time to make a change. Good thing it worked.

. But where did that bit of insight come from. Maybe it was while realizing that someone else might be taking his minutes. Time to make a change. Good thing it worked.

Or maybe, he just wanted to start hiiting his shots!

His minutes have just about remained consistent throughout his current slump. IMO, i don`t think he was worried about anyone taking his minutes.

Missed this, passed out but I did record it.

Happy to see the Pistons are staying on their roll.

This team is playing so well, it's making me uneasy. When is the inevitable over-confidence game going to come? :eek:

Or maybe, he just wanted to start hiiting his shots!

His minutes have just about remained consistent throughout his current slump. IMO, i don`t think he was worried about anyone taking his minutes.

Hardly worth arguing about really. Nobody knows. But to suggest its not possible is just as wrong as me saying its a sure thing. Probably a good idea to move onto different subjects.

And by the way, someone mentioned the word comical. I do try to put a bit of subtle humor in my posts. Nice when someone catches it. But if they turnaround and take it too seriously, well, I guess they really did not get it.

Hardly worth arguing about really. Nobody knows. But to suggest its not possible is just as wrong as me saying its a sure thing. Probably a good idea to move onto different subjects.

And by the way, someone mentioned the word comical. I do try to put a bit of subtle humor in my posts. Nice when someone catches it. But if they turnaround and take it too seriously, well, I guess they really did not get it.

Good idea, let`s move on, however, let me make this clear.

I am not arguing at all, just voicing my opinion. I just find it hard to believe that someone can start hitting their shots for the sole reason of someone might take their minutes if the shots don`t start falling.

Now, if it was because of poor defense, lack of effort, bad decisions, that might take Hayes` minutes, I would agree 100%.

I am now moving on...........:MusicBigGrin:

Missed this, passed out but I did record it.

Happy to see the Pistons are staying on their roll.

This team is playing so well, it's making me uneasy. When is the inevitable over-confidence game going to come? :eek:

For others who missed it there will be another re-broadcast at 3am on FSN.

Good idea, let`s move on, however, let me make this clear.

I am not arguing at all, just voicing my opinion. I just find it hard to believe that someone can start hitting their shots for the sole reason of someone might take their minutes if the shots don`t start falling.

Now, if it was because of poor defense, lack of effort, bad decisions, that might take Hayes` minutes, I would agree 100%.

I am now moving on...........:MusicBigGrin:

ok, I see you don't get it. That bit was put in their for some light comedy. Either laugh or say it was not funny. Happy New Year.

Good idea, let`s move on, however, let me make this clear.

I am not arguing at all, just voicing my opinion. I just find it hard to believe that someone can start hitting their shots for the sole reason of someone might take their minutes if the shots don`t start falling.

Now, if it was because of poor defense, lack of effort, bad decisions, that might take Hayes` minutes, I would agree 100%.

I am now moving on...........:MusicBigGrin:

On today's broadcast Mahorn said, that Hayes for whatever reason was rushing his shots during this shooting slump, and over the last 3 games he hasn't been.

So it would be reasonable to assume that someone, maybe even Hayes himself by watching tapes, noticed that he was rushing his shots and communicated it to him. As a result he stopped rushing his shots and his shooting improved.

The question that remains though is:

What happened that caused him to start rushing his shots 3 or 4 weeks ago?

:hoops:

On today's broadcast Mahorn said, that Hayes for whatever reason was rushing his shots during this shooting slump, and over the last 3 games he hasn't been.

So it would be reasonable to assume that someone, maybe even Hayes himself by watching tapes, noticed that he was rushing his shots and communicated it to him. As a result he stopped rushing his shots and his shooting improved.

The question that remains though is:

What happened that caused him to start rushing his shots 3 or 4 weeks ago?



Is this one of those trick questions that you already know the answer to?

On today's broadcast Mahorn said, that Hayes for whatever reason was rushing his shots during this shooting slump, and over the last 3 games he hasn't been.

So it would be reasonable to assume that someone, maybe even Hayes himself by watching tapes, noticed that he was rushing his shots and communicated it to him. As a result he stopped rushing his shots and his shooting improved.

The question that remains though is:

What happened that caused him to start rushing his shots 3 or 4 weeks ago?

:hoops:
Maybe someone should tell Hayes not to shoot!

:pound::pound::pound::pound:

A few thoughts: Brezec really, really, really, really, reeaaaalllllyyyy wants to stay a Piston. And I appreciate the hustle and the desire to please, but that was just too much. I understand trying to make a good impression on your new team, but man, that stuff was just :attention

Amir - he's playing better, and with a little more confidence and aggressiveness. Joe D stated in a recent interview that they're trying to get him more PT - I'm hopeful that happens sometime within the next three years we have him for.

Stuckey - he's gotten a lot better. The kid's a quick study, and this was only his fourth of fifth game back from a significant injury. That kid is gonna be good. Afflalo too. Those two have very good chemistry.

I was wondering if Chauncey would get T'd for hanging on the rim. :MusicBigGrin:

I remember he did that during his annual dunk last year. I think he gets up there and doesn't know how to get back down. Great quote from CB talking about an ongoing contest with Affalo over who will dunk the most during games...

“I had to do that, because a lot of the rookies probably didn’t have TVs yet the last time I dunked. We still have no evidence that Afflalo can even do it.”


This team is playing so well, it's making me uneasy. When is the inevitable over-confidence game going to come? :eek:

I'm guessing tomorrow night since that's the first game I'll get to see in two weeks.

I thought so too since it was obvious he was doing it for show, but have not seen that call made at all this season...refs must have been told to relax...?

Maybe the refs thought that CB could not dunk or have not see CB dunk ala AA yet, that's why they were so impressed til they forgot to give him a T for that.

Great 'TEAM' game. RIP 9-10 FG with 22 pts in less than 28 minutes. CB with 13 pts as well as 12 asst in less than 25 minutes. Dice with another double double. Tay gettin more shots in limited minutes and made almost 50% of his shots and Sheed being Sheed. I guarantee that if CB can average double doubles, we will be in the ECF at least.

IMO, Hermann is a better 3 pt shooter than Hayes. Hermann's shooting mechanism, release or whatever you wanna call it is looks better than Hayes. May like him to be in our roster for the season. Need him if we need 3s.

Did anyone notice that when AA came in, Redd was suddenly not that hot anymore? Seems like AA has 'DETROIT PISTON BASKETBALL' blood in his veins. This guy is a keeper.

Wishing everyone a HAPPY & HEALTHY NEW YEAR 2008. May all your wishes come true this year & God Blessed.

PEACE....

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“I had to do that, because a lot of the rookies probably didn’t have TVs yet the last time I dunked. We still have no evidence that Afflalo can even do it.”

Sure we do. I posted evidence of him dunking. You must have missed it or forgot about it.

:hoops:

Here's a quick clip of the tail end of CB's dunk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks-UW2GKceU). I didn't see the game and this was all I could find. If anyone has a better clip, PLEASE POST IT!

Here's a quick clip of the tail end of CB's dunk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks-UW2GKceU). I didn't see the game and this was all I could find. If anyone has a better clip, PLEASE POST IT!


Compare it to this one..........looks similar.....:hoops:


YouTube - Chauncey Billups dunk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wpymrMXHaU)

Compare it to this one..........looks similar.....:hoops:


YouTube - Chauncey Billups dunk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wpymrMXHaU)
Same with this old school one from his T-wolves days. Looks like his annual dunk tendency is to go two handed to the right side of the rim. :pound:

I wonder if our second unit could do better against our starters than the Bucks did.

:hoops:

HAMILTON: “That dunk was so old school. He was telling all the young guys he can dunk. They should’ve given him a technical for hanging on the rim that long. He told me, ‘I’ve got to let all the cameras get all their snap shots in and let them know I can still get up there.’ ”

BILLUPS: “(Pistons rookies Rodney Stuckey and Arron Afflalo) didn’t have NBA TV when they were in college, so I had to show them I could get up there and swing on that rim a little bit.”

I wonder if our second unit could do better against our starters than the Bucks did.

:hoops:

on days of serious 5 on 5 practice i bet its pretty heated

IMO, Hermann is a better 3 pt shooter than Hayes. Hermann's shooting mechanism, release or whatever you wanna call it is looks better than Hayes. May like him to be in our roster for the season. Need him if we need 3s.


The numbers support your claim, JZ. Here are their career 3-point stats:

Herrmann is 62-for-142 (43.7%)
Hayes is 192-for-550 (34.9%)

By the way:
Herrmann is 28 years old and playing in his second NBA season.
Hayes is 26 years old and playing in his fifth NBA season.

Here's a quick clip of the tail end of CB's dunk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks-UW2GKceU). I didn't see the game and this was all I could find. If anyone has a better clip, PLEASE POST IT!

Here's one: Need4Sheed.com Detroit Pistons Videos: Chauncey Billups Can Dunk (http://www.need4sheed.com/videos/chauncey_dunk.html)

Did anyone notice that when AA came in, Redd was suddenly not that hot anymore? Seems like AA has 'DETROIT PISTON BASKETBALL' blood in his veins. This guy is a keeper.


AA is making Rip look like a slouch on defense (even though Rip is not bad). The only problem i see with this is will Flip put Afflalo in close games when we need his defense if it requires taking Rip out?? I'm thrilled with the bench PT, but we have yet to see major minutes for anyone besides Stuckey in a close game and Afflalo in the BOS game. I just hope that's not an anamoly, and Flip doesn't go back to clinging to the starters.

AA is making Rip look like a slouch on defense (even though Rip is not bad). The only problem i see with this is will Flip put Afflalo in close games when we need his defense if it requires taking Rip out?? I'm thrilled with the bench PT, but we have yet to see major minutes for anyone besides Stuckey in a close game and Afflalo in the BOS game. I just hope that's not an anamoly, and Flip doesn't go back to clinging to the starters.

Afflalo's defense is good, but let's not get carried away. When the game is on the line, you want the best players in the game. That is, you would want Hamilton over Afflalo.

Afflalo's defense is good, but let's not get carried away. When the game is on the line, you want the best players in the game. That is, you would want Hamilton over Afflalo.

Nope, it depends on the situation. If someone is killing us, and only Afflalo can contain him, Afflalo may be the best player for that situation. You can't just shoehorn a player into a game, regardless of his talents in one area. And you can't ignore the excellent qualities that a player may have when they are needed. Daly did a great job choosing between when he used Rodman, pure defense, vs. Aguirre, great offense, at small forward.

The numbers support your claim, JZ. Here are their career 3-point stats:

Herrmann is 62-for-142 (43.7%)
Hayes is 192-for-550 (34.9%)

By the way:
Herrmann is 28 years old and playing in his second NBA season.
Hayes is 26 years old and playing in his fifth NBA season.

If memory serves, Herrmann, when he started for Charlotte the last part of last season, he shot about 60% on his threes. I don't think there is any doubt that Herrmann is the better offensive player, based on this, and based on some film I have been reviewing on him so far this season. But hey, defense is a big part of the job. Here, I don't like what I see from either player all that much, but I think Hayes is quicker, and a little better on D, and he may still improve further as those knee surgeries get further and further into his past.

The above though is not an endorsement of Hayes, as I think Amir, who is far quicker, or Mejia, a very solid defender, are both better options to back up Tay.

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The numbers support your claim, JZ. Here are their career 3-point stats:

Herrmann is 62-for-142 (43.7%)
Hayes is 192-for-550 (34.9%)

By the way:
Herrmann is 28 years old and playing in his second NBA season.
Hayes is 26 years old and playing in his fifth NBA season.

I would wait till Herrmann has 550 3 pt FGA to say he is a better 3 point shooter.

I would wait till Herrmann has 550 3 pt FGA to say he is a better 3 point shooter.

Okay, let's make this thread a "sticky" for the next 3 or 4 years....

Okay, let's make this thread a "sticky" for the next 3 or 4 years....

If Hermann stays in NBA. There's always a chance he goes to play in Europe.

I would wait till Herrmann has 550 3 pt FGA to say he is a better 3 point shooter.

150 is not exactly a small sample size.

150 is not exactly a small sample size.


I agree, however, for me I just like the # of att to be as close as possible to compare.

Now, I wonder what was Jarvis`s % after 150 att??

I agree, however, for me I just like the # of att to be as close as possible to compare.

Now, I wonder what was Jarvis`s % after 150 att??

Exactly. You're going to have to wait a long time if you want their shots to be equal. In fact, it probably will never happen.

Anybody who shoots over 40% from 3-point land has a good stroke.


They are both good shooters.

I agree, however, for me I just like the # of att to be as close as possible to compare.

Now, I wonder what was Jarvis`s % after 150 att??

Well, he shot 131 in his rookie season, and hit 30.5% of them.

Well, he shot 131 in his rookie season, and hit 30.5% of them.
Not a very good number.

Well, it looks as though we are stuck with Jarvis regardless of the %`s and I believe he will do just fine.

We can pull out #`s out of our a__, does it really make a difference. The only way Herrmann will take Jarvis`s min is if he gets hurt. Period.

We can pull out #`s out of our a__, does it really make a difference. The only way Herrmann will take Jarvis`s min is if he gets hurt. Period.

I think we should compare their hair length.

I think we should compare their hair length.

You had to go there!!!!!!!

I think we should compare their hair length.

Its not the length it is the style. LOL

http://mlb.mlb.com/images/players/mugshot/ph_120044.jpg

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That's right, it's not the size that counts.