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NYPistonFan729
01-13-2008, 08:30 AM
Noah seems a lot like Sheed when he entered the league. Very unfocused, time management issues, carefree, etc.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/cs-080112chicagobullsjoakimnoah,1,6720715.story?ctrac k=2&cset=true

Warthog
01-13-2008, 11:44 AM
i can't read the article, but sheed had more basketball skill in his pinky finger when he entered the league than noah has in his whole body

roscoe36
01-13-2008, 12:35 PM
Try this link

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/cs-080112chicagobullsjoakimnoah,1,6720715.story

TWOTIMESRALPHI
01-13-2008, 12:41 PM
I guess the apple doesn't fall far from the bole
http://www.tennistrophy.at/2003/img/presse/noah.jpg

mikhail1973
01-13-2008, 01:44 PM
i can't read the article, but sheed had more basketball skill in his pinky finger when he entered the league than noah has in his whole body

That would be correct.

CHS Ace 12
01-13-2008, 04:05 PM
wtf noah does not equal sheed.....why would you think that?
sheed can shoot
noah can't
sheed is strong
noah isn't
sheed has skills
noah doesent
nuff said

basketbills
01-13-2008, 04:35 PM
wtf noah does not equal sheed.....why would you think that?
sheed can shoot
noah can't
sheed is strong
noah isn't
sheed has skills
noah doesent
nuff said

Yeah...but other than that he's just like Sheed.

CHS Ace 12
01-13-2008, 05:45 PM
but what sheed has makes a big difference between the two theyre attitudes may be the same but sheed can walk his talk noah can't

pass99
01-13-2008, 06:10 PM
Interesting that the players took an internal vote to reprimand Noah for an extra game. Simply unbelievable they took this route. That must have been some emotional outburst.

NYPistonFan729
01-13-2008, 06:15 PM
i can't read the article, but sheed had more basketball skill in his pinky finger when he entered the league than noah has in his whole body

Not talking about basketball skills.

ahb
01-13-2008, 11:48 PM
Reading between the lines it sounds like Noah's more like Latrell Sprewell.

Interesting that the coaching staff is so weak they couldn't make that call themselves (I mean, c'mon, he's Joakim Noah).

mikhail1973
01-14-2008, 12:50 AM
Reading between the lines it sounds like Noah's more like Latrell Sprewell.

Interesting that the coaching staff is so weak they couldn't make that call themselves (I mean, c'mon, he's Joakim Noah).

That's probably why they didn't do it - afraid he'll choke them. :pound:

NYPistonFan729
01-14-2008, 01:45 AM
Reading between the lines it sounds like Noah's more like Latrell Sprewell.

Interesting that the coaching staff is so weak they couldn't make that call themselves (I mean, c'mon, he's Joakim Noah).

Good comparison, but sprewell was just hateful.

buddahfan
01-14-2008, 03:07 PM
Sheed has more talent in the pinky finger of his off hand than Noah does in his entire body including the pinky finger of his off hand.

Noah hasn't earned the right to go off emotionally.



:hoops:

jammertime
01-17-2008, 12:45 AM
Speaking of Noah...
ESPN - Coach calls confrontation between Noah, Wallace no big deal - NBA (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3200341)

Ok, really, I just wanted to post that because I wanted to quote this from the comments section of that article:

Wallace is the problem not Noah. Wallace is an overpaid piece of ####, whose production can be equalled by a non-living object."...a non-living object"!!!!:pound::pound::pound::pound:

pass99
01-17-2008, 01:49 AM
Reading between the lines it sounds like Noah's more like Latrell Sprewell.

Interesting that the coaching staff is so weak they couldn't make that call themselves (I mean, c'mon, he's Joakim Noah).

Another twist might be, that no matter how he eventual outcome from the coaching side, a four-way stop had to have representation.

Engineers, or those that have an interest in finding solutions to problems, many times gain insight from the problem area by alternating the occurrence. If you have a huge, troublesome traffic intersection, it makes no sense to shorten or lengthen the light's timing. Making the section a four-way stop solves many issues. Unfortunately, traffic engineers have a particular frame of reference which comfortably says that a smooth, safe and consistent traffic flow, is of the essence.

Sometimes, you need those psychological four-way stops.

You be the judge, from your reference area, whether it is needed or not.

TaShawn
01-17-2008, 11:00 AM
I always thought that 4-way stops introduced the compounded effects of the inefficient mechanism of human reflexes into the system. The longer the length of the light, the more minimal the reflex drag. Although, there is a tradeoff between the average wait time and the maximum wait time.

raxrets
01-17-2008, 06:25 PM
maybe you here have already read this sheridian's bi-annual trade-machine: ESPN - High-priced superstars could be on the move - NBA (http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insider/columns/story?columnist=sheridan_chris&page=TradeProspects-080117)

For pistons' point of view the most interesting were comments from readers, approximately 70% discussed hypothetical sheed for amare trade, no way it happens, though.

mikhail1973
01-17-2008, 06:52 PM
maybe you here have already read this sheridian's bi-annual trade-machine: ESPN - High-priced superstars could be on the move - NBA (http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insider/columns/story?columnist=sheridan_chris&page=TradeProspects-080117)

For pistons' point of view the most interesting were comments from readers, approximately 70% discussed hypothetical sheed for amare trade, no way it happens, though.
If you are Joe D, do you want Amare here? What would he bring that would be better than Sheed?

raxrets
01-17-2008, 07:11 PM
If you are Joe D, do you want Amare here? What would he bring that would be better than Sheed?

Amare's only plus is his age and sheed either retires or resigns for lesser amount of money but amare demands even more than he earns now...Amare is not rebounder and defender

TaShawn
01-17-2008, 07:23 PM
Amare is younger. But for the next 2 years, Sheed is the better all around player.

We are light in the 5 spot anyway, so getting lighter would be a baad idea.

pass99
01-18-2008, 01:29 AM
I always thought that 4-way stops introduced the compounded effects of the inefficient mechanism of human reflexes into the system. .

Sorry, the reflexes are there regardless. Those reflexes approaching a light (do you beat the yellow) are on high alert. With a a four-way stop, you know you have to stop: the inevitable has a calming effect. With the former, your eyes on straight-on as you-gun-it; no peripheral vision is usually evoked. Not too many people killed on four-way stops, because judgments have a motion frame and you must look at least in two significant directions while stopped.

The longer the length of the light, the more minimal the reflex drag. Although, there is a trade off between the average wait time and the maximum wait time.

The reflex drag is down because you have stopped. The speed/reaction time (drag ratio) is increased only with the approach on a light you know must change, irregardless of the peek-a-boo looks at the timing (numerical) cross-walks.

The average wait time when presented on a four-way stop is usually located in a residential area or an area that is visually dangerous. It is also important to notice ramp-up time in regard to speed and the next known stop. Average wait time does indeed enter into the equation. Most of the time your window of wait is a mere 2.5 hours of aggregate traffic flows over that location.

Just remember, on a four way stop, the person on your immediate right has the right-of-way (cordiality as in patience only).

An analogy (this is for Skool):

Traffic light = management
Four-way stop = team members

TaShawn
01-18-2008, 10:27 AM
I guess this is why they invented the roundabout.

http://www.k-state.edu/roundabouts/photos/larcdetriomphe1.jpg

dba
01-18-2008, 11:25 AM
I love roundabouts. Much more efficient than red lights.

They're perfect guy things - if you're lost, you don't have to admit it and stop and read the map, you can just continue to drive in a circle until one of the possible adjoining roads inspires you.

buddahfan
01-18-2008, 01:51 PM
I love roundabouts. Much more efficient than red lights.

They're perfect guy things - if you're lost, you don't have to admit it and stop and read the map, you can just continue to drive in a circle until one of the possible adjoining roads inspires you.

They are great fun to drive in if you under some kind of influence of an altered mental state.

:hoops:

pass99
01-19-2008, 01:12 AM
I guess this is why they invented the roundabout.

http://www.k-state.edu/roundabouts/photos/larcdetriomphe1.jpg

Did you notice the people on the right, have the right-a-away.

NYPistonFan729
01-19-2008, 11:43 AM
If you are Joe D, do you want Amare here? What would he bring that would be better than Sheed?


Also, suns need amare to play with sheed; so amare does not have to play duncan, dirk, boozer, etc. Trading sheed for amare makes no sense. amare is a great offense player and sheed plays good defense

mikhail1973
01-19-2008, 12:48 PM
Also, suns need amare to play with sheed; so amare does not have to play duncan, dirk, boozer, etc. Trading sheed for amare makes no sense. amare is a great offense player and sheed plays good defense

Sheed doesn't want to play much offense. He could easily average double-double if his mind was in the game more often.

TaShawn
01-19-2008, 12:57 PM
Did you notice the people on the right, have the right-a-away.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that is why it is called a RIGHT a way.

Warthog
01-19-2008, 05:07 PM
i'm pretty sure it's right-OF-way, in which case the left/right denomination is just coincidence of being the same word

TaShawn
01-19-2008, 05:24 PM
Yep.

The customary or legal right of a person, vessel, or vehicle to pass in front of another.

buddahfan
01-21-2008, 03:23 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that is why it is called a RIGHT a way.

Right of Way does not always go to the person or car on the right.

In fact the term Right of Way also refers to property rights.



Priority (right of way)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/UK_Roundabout_8_Cars.gif/180px-UK_Roundabout_8_Cars.gif (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:UK_Roundabout_8_Cars.gif) http://en.wikipedia.org/skins-1.5/common/images/magnify-clip.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:UK_Roundabout_8_Cars.gif)
A diagram of movement within a roundabout (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roundabout_intersection) in a country where traffic drives on the left. A roundabout is a type of road junction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_junction), or traffic calming (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_calming) device, at which traffic streams circularly around a central island after first yielding to the circulating traffic. Unlike with traffic circles, vehicles on a roundabout have priority over the entering vehicle, parking (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parking) is not allowed and pedestrians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedestrian) are usually prohibited from the central island.


Vehicles will often come into conflict with other vehicles because their intended courses of travel intersect, and thus interfere with each other's routes. The general principle that establishes who has the right to go first is called "right of way", or "priority". It establishes who has the right to use the conflicting part of the road and who has to wait until the other driver does so.

As well as the side of the road, priority rules also differ between countries. In the United Kingdom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom), priority is always indicated by signs or road markings, in that every junction has a concept of a major road and minor road (except those governed by traffic lights).

In most of Continental Europe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_Europe), the default priority is to give way to the right, but this default may be overridden by signs or road markings. In France (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France), priority was initially according to the social rank of each traveler, but early in the life of the automobile (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automobile) this rule was deemed impractical and replaced with the "priorité à droite" (priority to the right) rule, which was employed until the 1980s. At a roundabout, "priorité à droite" works this way: traffic already on the roundabout gives way to traffic entering the roundabout. Most French (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France) roundabouts now have give-way signs for traffic entering the roundabout, but there remain some notable exceptions that operate on the old rule, such as the Place de l'Étoile (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Place_de_l%27%C3%89toile) around the Arc de Triomphe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arc_de_Triomphe). Traffic on this particular roundabout is so chaotic that French insurance companies deem any accident on the roundabout to be equal liability.[citation needed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)]
The default give-way-to-the-right rule used in Continental Europe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_Europe) causes problems for many British (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom) and Irish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland) drivers who are accustomed to having right of way by default unless they are specifically told to give way.

Different countries have different rules that establish who has the right of way, but a common pattern is for one of the roads, usually the smaller road, to have a marking indicating that it should "yield" or "give way" to drivers on the other road. This can be in the form of a stop sign (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_sign), dotted lines painted on the pavement or other devices. Drivers approaching from the road with the stop sign, or equivalent device are required to stop before the intersection and only proceed when a gap occurs in the other road's traffic. Some countries also include pedestrian crossings near the STOP signs, and in this case the approaching drivers must also allow pedestrians to cross the street before advancing.
In most modern cities the traffic signal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_signal) is used to establish the right of way on the busy roads. Its primary idea is to give each road a slice of time in which its traffic may use the intersection in an organized way. The intervals of time assigned for each road may be adjusted to take into account factors such as difference in volume of traffic.



Dictionary: (http://www.answers.com/library/Dictionary-cid-69395) right of way

also right-of-way (rīt'əv-wā')


n., pl. rights of way or right of ways also rights-of-way (rīts'-) or right-of-ways (-wāz').

The right to pass over property owned by another party.
The path or thoroughfare on which such passage is made.
The strip of land over which facilities such as highways, railroads, or power lines are built.
The customary or legal right of a person, vessel, or vehicle to pass in front of another.ADVERTISEMENT
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What is Right of Way?
In the strict sense of the word, right of way refers to the land on which infrastructure is built. Infrastructure could be anything from a highway to an airport. Projects such as pipelines, power lines, or telephone facilities all require right of way. Generally speaking, the term right of way is used to describe the industry as a whole and the professionals who are involved in it. There are many areas of specialization in right of way to include acquisition and negotiation, property management, relocation, appraisal, title, surveying, engineering, attorneys, and records management. There are a number of related industries and professionals whose responsibilities overlap right of way. Some of these areas include soil and water conservation, construction, mineral leasing (landman), telecommunications, environmental consultants, title abstracting, and mapping.
right of way faq page (http://www.rightofway.com/question.html)


right of way: Definition, Synonyms and Much More from Answers.com (http://www.answers.com/topic/right-of-way?cat=biz-fin)

Traffic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic#Priority_.28right_of_way.29)
:hoops:

TaShawn
01-22-2008, 06:01 PM
TMI. :)