On occassion I have thought about starting this "meaningless stats" thread that tracks peculiar stats, streaks, odd numbers, the stat of the night and so on, but thought it would die a slow death. Please keep this one alive by throwing in that odd one when you run across it.

It's obvious that Devean Georges' heckling 0-11 form the field may have been the stat of last night as it was rare and an embarrasment to him. He was out there for 33 mins and kept shooting???

Did anybody noticed that the Pistons had scored exactly 55 points at the half in each of the last three straight games vs the Bobcats, Hawks and Pacers?? In fact in the last two games the 1st and 2nd quarters were identical as the Pistons scored 25 pts and 30 pts in both games... Things that make you go hmm?


Those wondering about Sheed's tech count, he is the league leader with 9 at the break. But he has some company right behind him with a few key Celtics with 8, 7 and 6 techs.
FOX Sports on MSN - NBA - Stats (http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/sortableStats?league=NBA&stable=fouls&stat=technicalFouls&dir=descending&low=1&high=50&showPlayers=all&position=all&season=regular)

Other than Sheed having the dubious honor of leading the league in techs, the Pistons really have no other players in the top five of any of the major categories. (Someone please find one and keep this thread alive). The Pistons do it with team work and as Buddha or someone pointed out in another thread, the Pistons can win without someone having a monster game point wise as they scored 96 points last night without a single player scoring more than 14.

Team wise the Pistons lead the lead with the least amount of turnovers per game with 11.61

Other odd stats this season, the Pistons are 22-1 when scoring 100 points, but 22-0 and scoring over 100 points...

Also heard the Miami Heat announcer state in that game last week that the Pistons had won 32 straight games when they had at least 24 assists in a game. Well they dished out 30 in that game and have dropped at leasst 24 dimes in 3 of the last four games so I think that streak is up to 36 now. So if the Pistons get 24 assists, put it in the win column. :thumb:

Other than Sheed having the dubious honor of leading the league in techs, the Pistons really have no other players in the top five of any of the major categories. (Someone please find one and keep this thread alive).
Billups is in the top five in free throw percentage and assists per turnover, which supposably are more predictive of wins than points, rebounds, or assists.

I believe Tim Hardaway holds the game record for field goal futility 0 - 17 in a 1990 game.


On 12/27 Hardaway made NBA history against the San Antonio Spurs. He missed all 17 of his field-goal attempts in regulation and overtime, setting a league mark for futility.




NBA.com: Tim Hardaway Bio (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/tim_hardaway/bio.html)

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AJ now in his 3rd season

Field Goal Attempts per 36 minutes

2005-06 - 9.2
2006-07 - 9.6
2007-08 - 9.4

Career -- 9.5

What makes this stat odd is that his sample sizes are so small that you would think that that would be at least 1 of the 4 numbers that was decidedly different from the other 3

Amir Johnson Statistics - Basketball-Reference.com (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/johnsam01.html)

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Blocks per 48 minutes (players who have played > 48 minutes this year).

#1- Amir Johnson- 5.79 (not sure if last night's game is even in there)
#2- Marcus Camby
#3- Alonzo Mourning
#4- Theo Ratliff
#5- Cheikh Samb... actually, he's disqualified due to too few minutes.


AJ is #1 in the league for rebounds per 40 at the Forward position (not counting players who get less than 5 mpg).

Rip Hamilton is #3 in 3-point shooting percentage at .481 behind #1 Kapono and #2 J. Jones.

Rip Hamilton must hold some kind of record for total and consecutive games played wearing a mask.

Flip Saunders Coach

Full NBA Season's Coached = 10
Playoff Appearances = 10
NBA Titles = 0

Larry Brown

ABA/NBA Playoff Appearances as Coach = 21
ABA/NBA Titles as Coach = None in First 20 appearances.

Larry Brown Coaching Record - Basketball-Reference.com (http://www.basketball-reference.com/coaches/brownla01c.html)

Flip Saunders Coaching Record - Basketball-Reference.com (http://www.basketball-reference.com/coaches/saundfl99c.html)

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I knew you guys could come up with some beauties while we wait for the second half of the season to start.

I know Dwight Howard leads the league in dunks with somewhere close to 200, because ABC/ESPN tell us, but I searched hi and dry for those stats just to see how far down the list JMAX was. We know he leads the league in missed power dunks:nerd2:...maybe Mason is keeping track of those.

NBA Basketball Dunk-O-Meter - CBSSports.com (http://www.sportsline.com/nba/dunk-o-meter?&print_rows=9999)

Just some highlights from the list:

JMax #29- 53 dunks
Mo Evans- #48- 37
Ben Wallace- #50- 36
Tay Prince- #53- 35
Nazr Moham- #80- 22
Darko Milly- #83- 21
Sheed- #91- 20
Amir Johnson- #95- 19
Dyess Mc- #95- 19

Rip with 6
Bresec with 3 (pathetic)
Murray with 3
Stuckey with 3
CBill with 1
Afflalo with 1


Conclusion: AJ dunks a lot. I need to figure out his dunks/ 48 and compare to Dwight Howard. Give me a minute... Nope. DHo dunks 4.24 per 48 while Amir is only at 2.75. There is a vast gulf of dunking frequency which seperates the man-child from the (what's Amir's nickname?).

It's about time he gets one I would say. Gotta let Sheed come up with it though.

I knew you guys could come up with some beauties while we wait for the second half of the season to start.

I know Dwight Howard leads the league in dunks with somewhere close to 200, because ABC/ESPN tell us, but I searched hi and dry for those stats just to see how far down the list JMAX was. We know he leads the league in missed power dunks:nerd2:...maybe Mason is keeping track of those.

Maxey is 29th with 53 dunks

Mikey Moore is 19th with 65, just ahead of Bosh and Gasol.

Tay is 52nd with 35
Sheed is 91st with 21
AJ is 95th with 19 in 332 minutes
Dyess tied with AJ with 19
Hayes 169th with 7
Rip has 6
Primo has 3
Murray has 3
Stuckey has 3
C-Bill has 1
Herrmann has 1

AA is not listed, so he must not have any, though I thought he got a dunk about a week ago on the play after Stuckey got a dunk. Maybe the stats person didn't believe it was possible so they didn't count it as a dunk. LOL

Howard has 185 in 2,092 minutes
Amare S. is second with 117 in 1,608 minutes

Top Five Dunkers plus AJ.
Dunks - Minutes Played Per Dunk
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Howard 185 -11.3
Amare S. 117 - 13.7
Marion 111 - 16.3
Chandler 106 - 15.8
Dalembert 90 - 19.5

AJ 19 - 17.5


NBA Basketball Dunk-O-Meter - CBSSports.com (http://www.sportsline.com/nba/dunk-o-meter)

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Jinx.

Definitely time to get out of this bar and stumble home.

Maxey is 29th with 53 dunks

Mikey Moore is 19th with 65, just ahead of Bosh and Gasol.

Tay is 52nd with 35
Sheed is 91st with 21
AJ is 95th with 19 in 332 minutes
Dyess tied with AJ with 19
Hayes 169th with 7
Rip has 6
Primo has 3
Murray has 3
Stuckey has 3
C-Bill has 1
Herrmann has 1

AA is not listed, so he must not have any, though I thought he got a dunk about a week ago on the play after Stuckey got a dunk. Maybe the stats person didn't believe it was possible so they didn't count it as a dunk. LOL

Howard has 185 in 2,092 minutes
Amare S. is second with 117 in 1,608 minutes

Top Five Dunkers plus AJ.
Dunks - Minutes Played Per Dunk
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Howard 185 -11.3
Amare S. 117 - 13.7
Marion 111 - 16.3
Chandler 106 - 15.8
Dalembert 90 - 19.5

AJ 19 - 17.5


NBA Basketball Dunk-O-Meter - CBSSports.com (http://www.sportsline.com/nba/dunk-o-meter)

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Dang you and Tashawn are good.:bow1:..maybe I should have tried to Google it instead of Windows Live search:) time for me to log off too and come up with some more crazy stats tomorrow..:bored:

Also heard the Miami Heat announcer state in that game last week that the Pistons had won 32 straight games when they had at least 24 assists in a game. Well they dished out 30 in that game and have dropped at leasst 24 dimes in 3 of the last four games so I think that streak is up to 36 now. So if the Pistons get 24 assists, put it in the win column. :thumb:

Said it many times in chat that when we move the ball around well, we will get assists and thus, 'W'. If CB averages double doubles (> 10 pts, > 10 assts), we'll win most of our games.

All three championships have been won while there has been a republican president. I remember things going downhill fast when Clinton took office. We came back strong when Bush got elected. Do we vote for Condi this election?

Said it many times in chat that when we move the ball around well, we will get assists and thus, 'W'. If CB averages double doubles (> 10 pts, > 10 assts), we'll win most of our games.

We are something like 21 - 1 this year when we score at least 100 points.

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All three championships have been won while there has been a republican president. I remember things going downhill fast when Clinton took office. We came back strong when Bush got elected. Do we vote for Condi this election?

Fortunately for us this year's Finals will be before the next Presidential election.

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We are something like 21 - 1 this year when we score at least 100 points.

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22-1 when scoring at least 100 points, but 22-0, when scoring over 100 points...(loss to the Magic 102-100:mad:)

1/6/05 Rip becomes the first NBA player to lead his team in scoring without making a field goal (0-10 FG, 14-14 FT).

1/6/05 Rip becomes the first NBA player to lead his team in scoring without making a field goal (0-10 FG, 14-14 FT).

That is the best one yet. I forgot about that.

Everyone in the World has a World record if you get specific enough.

It would be a fun challenge to list a stat that each Piston is #1 in the leage in.

Amir is #1 in blocks per 48 divided by age for instance.
And we've already established that Rip has the longer consecutive game streak while wearing a face mask.

That is the best one yet. I forgot about that.

Everyone in the World has a World record if you get specific enough.

It would be a fun challenge to list a stat that each Piston is #1 in the leage in.

Amir is #1 in blocks per 48 divided by age for instance.
And we've already established that Rip has the longer consecutive game streak while wearing a face mask.
Sheed leads in Techs.

22-1 when scoring at least 100 points, but 22-0, when scoring over 100 points...(loss to the Magic 102-100:mad:)

Thanks for the clarification.

Sometimes you remind me of the Agent Putterman character in Telefon.


Barbara (Lee Remick), who proves to be a double agent, as well as accepting help from computer expert Dorothy Putterman (Tyne Daly). Solid evidence that at the height of his box-office appeal Bronson could have gotten a seed catalog made into a big-budget movie, the film likely suffered from its tumultous production history, showing little of Siegel's signature style. On the bright side, Daly scores as a techie,


This movie is only worth watching if you are very big fan of Lee Remick, Charles Bronson and/or Tyne Daly. I happen to like all three. Though I could see where feminists would have a big problem with the movie.

Telefon - Movie Reviews, Trailers, Pictures - Rotten Tomatoes (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/telefon/#synopsis)


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Can we find out if Ronald Dupree has the most number of games in a business suit without being injured playing for the same team...first in the 04-05 season for the Pistons and then in 06-07 and then 07:)

Speaking of which, Yi Jianlian gives him a run for his money (http://www.nba.com/media/AP8.jpg) as a men's fashion model.

Well, Yi plays, too.

Amir also ranks second in Pistons history in field goal percentage among players with more than 20 games played, at .554 - just behind Oliver Miller's .555.

Speaking of which, Yi Jianlian gives him a run for his money (http://www.nba.com/media/AP8.jpg) as a men's fashion model.

Well, Yi plays, too.

Now that is definitely male exploitation.

How many photos on the net due you find of women in a black suit with full length pants holding a basketball while seating in a chair?

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Amir also ranks second in Pistons history in field goal percentage among players with more than 20 games played, at .554 - just behind Oliver Miller's .555.

Miller played in 64 games for us
AJ so far has played in 45 games for us.

So if he can keep his shooting percentage at its current level or raise it for his next 20 games he will become the Pistons all time leading field goal percentage shooter with 65 or more games.

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A stat like the Pistons winning 32 straight when having over 24 assists makes sense for us because it means the team is moving the ball and not trying to go one on one. When the Pistons execute they are the best team in the league.

I mainly hear true meaningless stats on ABC and think what? Something like "When team A has an odd score at half they are 10-1". - Why are you telling me this? What bearing could that possibly have on this game.

A stat like the Pistons winning 32 straight when having over 24 assists makes sense for us because it means the team is moving the ball and not trying to go one on one. When the Pistons execute they are the best team in the league.

I mainly hear true meaningless stats on ABC and think what? Something like "When team A has an odd score at half they are 10-1". - Why are you telling me this? What bearing could that possibly have on this game.

Stats like those are only useful if the team can look at it and say, "wow, we should try to make that happen." If they see that assist stat and decide to be more unselfish with the ball and it results in better outcomes, then it was useful. There is no way any team would ever say, "let's make sure we have an odd score at halftime." So, yeah, I totally agree.

An example of that isn't so blatant, is when they give a stat that is caused by winning and suggest that the stat was responsible for the win. Like, the Pistons are 5-0 when the bench plays the entire 4th quarter.

During the Bad Boy days, when almost every team in the league still averaged over 100 points per game, the Pistons were often cited as being the best team at holding their opponents under 100. One of those seasons, I remember one frequently cited stat was that most of the Pistons' wins followed the pattern of them scoring over 100 while holding their opponents under 100, as opposed to both teams being on the same side of that mark. But there was one announcer who screwed it up--I think it might have been Doug Collins--by saying, "When the Pistons score more than 100 and hold their opponents to less than 100, they almost always win."

Looking at that picture of Yi, I am reminded how much I hate pointy leathershoes.

I remember one frequently cited stat was that most of the Pistons' wins followed the pattern of them scoring over 100 while holding their opponents under 100

I think that a team usually wins in such a case. LOL

Sorry about that. I couldn't resist

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