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Milwaukee Feb 22 8PM
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The Bucks come into town to complete this home-home 2 game set. Could not have come at a better time.
ggazoo69
02-21-2008, 07:31 PM
The Pistons need to bury these guys at the Palace.
Warthog
02-21-2008, 09:54 PM
i'll be there. first loss with the maxiell jersey last game at the palace, ain't gonna happen again.
OLD SKOOL HQ
02-22-2008, 03:49 PM
I had the day off today and I feel great!
1. the house to myself
2. Had grits, boiled eggs, toast and applesauce for breakfast
3. Watched a lil pr0n
4. Worked out at gym for 90 minutes
5. Drinking a hefewiesen beer as I reward myself for not drinking a thinkg last night(no game on...heehee)
but I digress
I expect a 25pt win tonight! See yall in the chat....
BillLaimbeer
02-22-2008, 04:19 PM
I had the day off today and I feel great!
1. the house to myself
2. Had grits, boiled eggs, toast and applesauce for breakfast
3. Watched a lil pr0n
4. Worked out at gym for 90 minutes
5. Drinking a hefewiesen beer as I reward myself for not drinking a thinkg last night(no game on...heehee)
but I digress
I expect a 25pt win tonight! See yall in the chat....
You can't really have a much better day than what you've listed. You must be livin' the good life. Congrats!
TaShawn
02-22-2008, 04:31 PM
Ice Cube | It Was A Good Day lyrics (http://www.lyricsfreak.com/i/ice+cube/it+was+a+good+day_20066677.html)
My favorite line from that:
"Even saw the lights of the goodyear blimp
And it read ice cubes a pimp"
The only way your day becomes as good as Ice Cube's is if one of the Pistons F's around and gets a triple double tonight.
The ones who have a shot at it are CB and AJ (with blocks).
mikhail1973
02-22-2008, 06:25 PM
Ice Cube | It Was A Good Day lyrics (http://www.lyricsfreak.com/i/ice+cube/it+was+a+good+day_20066677.html)
My favorite line from that:
"Even saw the lights of the goodyear blimp
And it read ice cubes a pimp"
The only way your day becomes as good as Ice Cube's is if one of the Pistons F's around and gets a triple double tonight.
The ones who have a shot at it are CB and AJ (with blocks).
Could be Rip with turnovers. :sssh:
roscoe36
02-22-2008, 07:56 PM
Aw shucks, y'all know what I am going to post...
http://www.pistonsforum.com/misc.php?do=flashchat
roscoe36
02-22-2008, 09:16 PM
Pistons playing great basketball. AA, AJ and RS are doing very nice. Yes, very nice indeed.
st8ofmind
02-22-2008, 10:38 PM
33% of the cavs are better than all the wizards :pound:
Sick sick game for AJ.
Other than the 1st Q, it was everything Dr Feelgood ordered
Well, to be fair, the Wizards were missing their best and third-best players.
But they are the Wizards.
Lee356
02-22-2008, 10:53 PM
1st half.
The starters came out smoking offensively, but they did not play particularly good D. Result? A high scoring first quarter with us ending up behind a couple of points.
Then we brought in Brick Hayes as the first guy off the bench. He made his first shot, an outside jumper that had zero chance of drawing a foul. Then he started his bricking routine. We fell further behind. Thankfully, Maxiell at least was in the game giving us some energy.
Then the actual bench came in. Hayes sat down and Tay came back into the game. Maxiell had played despite two quick fouls, and was now replaced with Amir. Sheed came in for Dyess. Afflalo came in for Rip. Stuckey came in for Billups. All the sudden, we had a unit with everything. Especially stellar defense. There was 10-0 run in there. And after Hayes left the game, we outscored them by about 24 points for the rest of the quarter.
Here is the unit that did the damage: Stuckey, Afflalo, Tay, Amir, Sheed. Stuckey got to the line some, and made some shots. Afflalo played awesome perimeter D. Amir did everything. A block. Bothering shots. Closing out on shooters. Scoring 7 himself. (A putback and the and one. A nice post move. And finishing a fast break led by Afflalo.) Amir even led a fast break ending in a score by Afflalo. Did I mention steals and knock-a-ways? Amir was in a word, totally awesome in this quarter. (Not that we have even begun to see what he can do yet.)
Sheed was doing pretty well too in the quarter. Tay was the glue guy, as always, just making everything click. What a unit.
Dyess did get some rebounds, hit some shots. More importantly, he even did about 7 points worth of damage at the basket, including one nice post move. (But he is a doorway to the basket.)
Tay and Billups both were hitting some shots too, and Tay scored some. Yep, clicking on the O. But I will object strongly to anyone saying Dyess had a great first half, since we played losing basketball for the most part with him in. His defense leaves a lot to be desired. (Not his fault as we insist on playing a two center system when the other team is too quick for it.)
2nd half.
Kind of predictable. Our starters try in vain to put Milwaukee away, but just can't find anyway to play defense with Dyess in the game, and Redd not being able to be stopped by Rip. Another high scoring quarter in the 3rd with nothing really happening.
One little difference though. Amir came into the game for the last two minutes of the 3rd quarter, and somehow we ended the quarter with a 26 point lead. Go figure.
The 4th quarter started out just like the 2nd quarter. With Jarvis Hayes in the game. Yep. Made a shot, and then started bricking. Now, we had a huge lead, so Prince did not come in this time. Milwaukee went on a 17-2 run.
A key play to end the nonsense? Amir runs a fast break, off a made free throw by Milwaukee, ending in a score by Maxiell. Then Stuck runs a fast break also ending in a score by Maxy. Disaster avoided. Herrmann comes in for Maxiell and now we are actually in garbage time. PS, Hayes then hit another shot, a meaningless one in garbage time.
Amir ends up with 13 points. Some of everything else. What a stat machine. His highlight of the 2nd half has to be when he tipped the ball to Maxiell (while Amir was under the basket fighting for a rebound) and then outrunning everyone to get a fast break score on the other end. Again, a lot more altered shots from Amir closing out on shooters.
Herrmann hit a three shortly after comiong into the game. then the new guy, Dixon, hits a three for his first Pistons points.
How did we do for playoff preparation in this one? Fantastic on playing the kids. Nowhere on replacing Jarvis. Nowhere on shoring up our sorry group of starters who just can't play any D. (As long as Dyess is in there with our otherwise very deserving starters.)
GO PISTONS!!!!!
OLD SKOOL HQ
02-22-2008, 10:55 PM
I had the day off today and I feel great!
1. the house to myself
2. Had grits, boiled eggs, toast and applesauce for breakfast
3. Watched a lil pr0n
4. Worked out at gym for 90 minutes
5. Drinking a hefewiesen beer as I reward myself for not drinking a thinkg last night(no game on...heehee)
but I digress
I expect a 25pt win tonight! See yall in the chat....
WOW ...27 POINT WIN...I only called a 25. Does this mean I have to watch a lil pr0n before every game now?
LA Dre
02-22-2008, 11:00 PM
Good win tonight. No need to head out on a west coast trip with three straight losses. Defense looked horendous in the 1st qtr giving up 35 points and then turned it up in the second by holding the bucks to 11.
Looked liked the pre allstar break team that would run up the score in the 2nd and 3rd qtrs and then let the bench experiment and give back half the lead in the 4th:)
tonights meaningless stats
33 assists, (12 by CB in 30 mins) only six TO's (3 of those by Max) season high 127 points...46 points in the paint, (probably the highest this season). 22 mins from Amir and he hit 6-7 from the floor and ran it perfectly. 23-1 @ 100 or more pts
Only negative > scrubs give up a 19-2 run in the 4th and team has given up 100 points in every game since the break. We will need to play better d on sunday vs the hi scoring Suns to win that one.
raxrets
02-22-2008, 11:06 PM
Lee has added Dice to his "usual" enemies list...Wow.
LA Dre
02-22-2008, 11:10 PM
Lee has added Dice to his "usual" enemies list...Wow.
I have to go back and view my DVR, but if most of those 35 points scored by the Bucs in the first were with Dice patrolling the lane and only 11 were scored with AJ doing the same in the second, he has a valid point!!
Lee356
02-22-2008, 11:17 PM
Lee has added Dice to his "usual" enemies list...Wow.
Dyess is a fine player. He is just being misplayed. He is a good solid backup center. A starting power forward he is not by any means.
Lee356
02-22-2008, 11:21 PM
Good win tonight. No need to head out on a west coast trip with three straight losses. Defense looked horendous in the 1st qtr giving up 35 points and then turned it up in the second by holding the bucks to 11.
Looked liked the pre allstar break team that would run up the score in the 2nd and 3rd qtrs and then let the bench experiment and give back half the lead in the 4th:)
tonights meaningless stats
33 assists, (12 by CB in 30 mins) only six TO's (3 of those by Max) season high 127 points...46 points in the paint, (probably the highest this season). 22 mins from Amir and he hit 6-7 from the floor and ran it perfectly. 23-1 @ 100 or more pts
Only negative > scrubs give up a 19-2 run in the 4th and team has given up 100 points in every game since the break. We will need to play better d on sunday vs the hi scoring Suns to win that one.
The 19-2 run against us was only because it was garbage time, and Flip would not embarrass Hayes by pulling him from the game. We were up by 31 before that run began. The very same run was poised to occur in the 2nd quarter, but Flip quickly pulled Jarvis out of the game, avoiding disaster at that point. Tay needs a backup. We ain't using one right now, cause I won't count Hayes as even playing on our side.
raxrets
02-22-2008, 11:33 PM
The 19-2 run against us was only because it was garbage time, and Flip would not embarrass Hayes by pulling him from the game. We were up by 31 before that run began. The very same run was poised to occur in the 2nd quarter, but Flip quickly pulled Jarvis out of the game, avoiding disaster at that point. Tay needs a backup. We ain't using one right now, cause I won't count Hayes as even playing on our side.
If you really think that in his substitution patterns flip takes into account personal feelings, then I think, you try to "read" too much from the game...
Michael Curry gave some great insight in the post-game on the Pistons woes this week. He said during winning streaks the Pistons have a tendancy to develop bad habbits on the defensive end as the shots fall all so easily. Unfortunatly that carries over when the offense is not clicking so well and we get this boom and bust trend that we have been seeing this season.
The 1st quarter started that way but the Starters really cranked up the D in the 3rd quarter and finally look to be back to playing the right way. Also great play by the bench in the 2nd quarter that gave us a nice half time lead.
Stucky and Amir just keep getting better. Two games in a row now when Amir actually changed the momentum of the game.
I feel a lot more confident now going into next weeks tough schedule.
Lee356
02-22-2008, 11:39 PM
If you really think that in his substitution patterns flip takes into account personal feelings, then I think, you try to "read" too much from the game... You are right. If its a rookie, Flip truly loves to embarrass him. But Hayes ain't a rook.
Anyway, you misread something. Just because I use a phrase with the word embarrassment in the phrase, does not mean I think anyone is going to feel embarrassment. What I really meant to say if you want to know the truth is that Flip did not want to be shamed for his choice of putting Hayes in the game in the first place.
lpgrl26
02-22-2008, 11:43 PM
3 things that need to happen after this game;
1/Amir needs to start
2/Hermann needs to play over Hayes/ or at least get a shot to take the sport away from him
3/Afflalo should never get taken out of the rotation ever. His defense is too valuable.
Dice coming off the bench will take alot of pressure off that unit to score, and give them veteran presence to settle them which they seem to need.
Great comeback game.
raxrets
02-22-2008, 11:43 PM
You are right. If its a rookie, Flip truly loves to embarrass him. But Hayes ain't a rook.
Anyway, you misread something. Just because I use a phrase with the word embarrassment in the phrase, does not mean I think anyone is going to feel embarrassment. What I really meant to say if you want to know the truth is that Flip did not want to be shamed for his choice of putting Hayes in the game in the first place.
In 27pt win was flips biggest worry, how to save his face
:sssh:
Lee356
02-23-2008, 12:21 AM
3 things that need to happen after this game;
1/Amir needs to start
2/Hermann needs to play over Hayes/ or at least get a shot to take the sport away from him
3/Afflalo should never get taken out of the rotation ever. His defense is too valuable.
Dice coming off the bench will take alot of pressure off that unit to score, and give them veteran presence to settle them which they seem to need.
Great comeback game.
I agree with point one. On Herrmann though, even though he looks good at times, he is quite slow. On Afflalo, yep, as much as Amir won this game, Afflalo was just about as important as he slammed the door on Redd scoring. (And ran breaks well and just generally played a very solid game.)
Now what to do about small forward spot? I still say the best guy to play there behind Prince is Amir. But then again, we want Amir to start at power forward. He really can't do both. The guy who I think should be there for us is Mejia. Too bad he signed with a team in Europe. If I were Joe, I would see if I could buy out his contract and get him back here. Why Mejia. Great rebounder. A better defender than Afflalo; a much stronger player who can also guard small forwards well. Mejia also is good enough to play point guard as far as ball handling skill. In all, he would be a lot like Tay in many ways (but little offense besides offensive rebound putbacks and then some at the line from driving in. To balance that, he is a better rebounder than Tay.)
I will post in the rotations thread to finish these thoughts out.
lpgrl26
02-23-2008, 01:19 AM
I agree with point one. On Herrmann though, even though he looks good at times, he is quite slow. On Afflalo, yep, as much as Amir won this game, Afflalo was just about as important as he slammed the door on Redd scoring. (And ran breaks well and just generally played a very solid game.)
Now what to do about small forward spot? I still say the best guy to play there behind Prince is Amir. But then again, we want Amir to start at power forward. He really can't do both. The guy who I think should be there for us is Mejia. Too bad he signed with a team in Europe. If I were Joe, I would see if I could buy out his contract and get him back here. Why Mejia. Great rebounder. A better defender than Afflalo; a much stronger player who can also guard small forwards well. Mejia also is good enough to play point guard as far as ball handling skill. In all, he would be a lot like Tay in many ways (but little offense besides offensive rebound putbacks and then some at the line from driving in. To balance that, he is a better rebounder than Tay.)
I will post in the rotations thread to finish these thoughts out.
On this team, Hermann is i guess the lesser of all evils (assuming Amir starts).
I actually think we should try AA at SF. If that doesn't work, try to sign maybe someone from the D-league (all we need is someone that can defend essentially, scoring here or there, ball-handling a plus). Meija like you said isn't an option.
Watching GH on PHO is frustrating. He's perfect for that spot.
TaShawn
02-23-2008, 01:54 AM
Here's what I'm taking away from this one:
1) Sheed playing like a man again. Only 3 three attempts. He was VERY aggressive in the paint. Posting up, getting in the mix, blocking shots, boxing out. So far, he really does seem to be trying to set an example when he plays with Amir.
2) Amir with another game changing performance. If there has been one common factor with all of our great runs over the past 2 weeks or so, it has been AJ. We don't need to make a trade, just go to the farm system.
3) Tay was +33 on the game. That is some good glue work from him. 5-9 shooting. 3 assists. 0 turnovers. No big whoop.
4) Billups being as aggressive as Sheed. 12 free throws and 12 assists. Great game from our best player.
5) Our starters shot 66% with 4 3-pointers and 22 free throws!!!
6) 16 offensive rebounds for us. AND we won the turnover battle 6 to 15.
Man, that was some sweet revenge after getting embarrassed by them 2 nights ago.
KGREG
02-23-2008, 08:11 AM
Missed the 1st qtr. Rasheed really likes playing with those young guys, and they really like playing with him too. I think that Rasheed and Tay with the young fellas was a great defensive lineup. Jarvis needs to get it together quick. I see no problem in moving AA and Rip to the SF spot to back Tayshaun up. Taking Arvis out of the rotation would allow Lindsey's game changing spot mins w/out taking away time from AA. Amir's stat line is just SICK!!!! That kid is a FREAK!!!!! Truth be told, had he solidified his spot in the rotation earlier, it could have made Maxiel expendable at the trade deadline, which could have brought a pretty decent SF.
KGREG
02-23-2008, 08:12 AM
Missed the 1st qtr. Rasheed really likes playing with those young guys, and they really like playing with him too. I think that Rasheed and Tay with the young fellas was a great defensive lineup. Jarvis needs to get it together quick. I see no problem in moving AA and Rip to the SF spot to back Tayshaun up. Taking Arvis out of the rotation would allow Lindsey's game changing spot mins w/out taking away time from AA. Amir's stat line is just SICK!!!! That kid is a FREAK!!!!! Truth be told, had he solidified his spot in the rotation earlier, it could have made Maxiel expendable at the trade deadline, which could have brought a pretty decent SF.
FreshPrince22
02-23-2008, 08:57 AM
Truth be told, had he solidified his spot in the rotation earlier, it could have made Maxiel expendable at the trade deadline, which could have brought a pretty decent SF.
As much of a Max fan as I am, I tend to agree. If moving Max in a deal could bring in a legit Small Forward this offseason, I would say pull the trigger. I am sick of this Mo Evans, Delfino, Hayes, revolving door of shoddy SFs, and AJ is clearly the guy at PF from here on out. Swap Max for a SF in the same age/talent range, and look for a backup Center with draft picks or the MLE.
Lee356
02-23-2008, 09:19 AM
As much of a Max fan as I am, I tend to agree. If moving Max in a deal could bring in a legit Small Forward this offseason, I would say pull the trigger. I am sick of this Mo Evans, Delfino, Hayes, revolving door of shoddy SFs, and AJ is clearly the guy at PF from here on out. Swap Max for a SF in the same age/talent range, and look for a backup Center with draft picks or the MLE.
You still have no idea of just how good JMAX is. JMAX vs. Amir is not an issue at all if Amir starts playing some small forward. Imagine a front line of Amir, JMAX, and Sheed. If you can't do that, I will imagine it for you. Totally awesome. We are about to win a championship, and Maxiell will be a big part of it.
roscoe36
02-23-2008, 10:00 AM
Imagine a front line of Amir, JMAX, and Sheed. If you can't do that, I will imagine it for you.
I can't imagine a front line of Samb, Maxiell, Amir Stuckey and Afflalo.
Could you imagine that for me?
Warthog
02-23-2008, 10:08 AM
c'mon, trade jmax for a backup SF? what you're saying is that you value a backup SF over a backup PF and i just can't agree there. jmax can still change a game, meshes well with the team, and shows up in big games (cleveland playoffs last year, dallas national game a couple weeks ago). seriously, what backup SF is going to do that for us?
i went to the game, ended up meeting friends who got us into 'club 53' and we ended up watching most of the 2nd half in there while drinking beers that were normal bar price. lee i'm going to disagree with you a little bit on dyess - he got offensive rebounds on 2 straight possessions early in the 1st quarter which really helped us from not getting behind. and while he's not the fastest guy on defense, his strength helped him do a great job preventing bogut from getting close, easy shots in the paint (even though bogut was making the shots anyway). plus rip was the one allowing redd to go to the baseline at will, leaving our interior guys high and dry.
simply put, amir was awesome. flip knows to put him in with sheed now, and how do teams score on sheed/amir/tay/afflalo/stuckey? he got his hands on tons of loose balls (that sounds funny), ignited some fast breaks, and even ran some of his own. i think by far his biggest contribution is that he sprints down the floor EVERY TIME we get the ball back on offense. rip got him a layup because he simply outran everyone down the court. he puts the defense on their heels and makes us the aggressors. he makes everyone else on the team push the ball. he's an animal. i mean, he completely outjumped gadzuric for a board when he didn't have position, and didn't have to go over the back or foul him for it...and gadzuric is an energy guy himself.
max played less than 5 mins of the first half. i don't mind him getting less time right now - he needs to get his legs back for the playoffs because we are definitely going to need him. chauncey was great attacking the basket, and we got the benefit of a ton of whistles late in the 2nd quarter (how about when dice tripped him and the bucks got the foul call?).
i didn't realize how small dixon was. he's listed at 6'3" and 165 lbs...i weigh that much at 5'11" and i'm pretty thin as it is. but i like his humble attitude instead of the '4th quarta slaughta'.
afflalo, after i kind of ripped him in a previous post, played a great game. he got some key steals, ran the fast break well, and played very solid defense. i think he has the lowest ceiling out of any of our new guys, but he always plays hard on defense and you can live with the rest.
Lee356
02-23-2008, 10:08 AM
I can't imagine a front line of Samb, Maxiell, Amir Stuckey and Afflalo.
Could you imagine that for me?
You seem to be doing a pretty good job on your own.
roscoe36
02-23-2008, 10:10 AM
You seem to be doing a pretty good job on your own.
Ah lee. You're no fun. I miss chatting with you. You should stop by the chat on a game night sometime soon.
With only 4 active bigs I am all for bringing Samb into the fold before the playoffs.
Is Maxiel struggling or are teams starting to scout him better now?
Hayes reminds me of this years Flip Murray. The honeymoons is still on but at some point he is going to have to start taking better shots.
Lee356
02-23-2008, 02:20 PM
With only 4 active bigs I am all for bringing Samb into the fold before the playoffs.
Is Maxiel struggling or are teams starting to scout him better now?
Hayes reminds me of this years Flip Murray. The honeymoons is still on but at some point he is going to have to start taking better shots.
Yep, we could use Samb playing some minutes for us. The good news is that he is kicking tail down in the D-League right now and so is not collecting rust. The bad news is that the D-League is not NBA talent, so we should be bringing Samb up soon.
As far as Maxiell struggling - he is not. Thats a perception from the bench not playing well sometimes. But that is too little Amir, and too much Hayes, not Maxiell.
Hayes takes perfectly fine shots. He just can't make them consistently. Now that the trade deadline has passed, the only reason I can see him playing is if Dumars wants a bit more evaluation on him before he goes looks for a free agent to sign to take his roster spot. I say he has had every possible chance at this point.
Lee356
02-23-2008, 02:22 PM
Ah lee. You're no fun. I miss chatting with you. You should stop by the chat on a game night sometime soon.
What is the appearance fee? Let me know and I will consider it.
mikhail1973
02-23-2008, 03:16 PM
With only 4 active bigs I am all for bringing Samb into the fold before the playoffs.
Is Maxiel struggling or are teams starting to scout him better now?
Hayes reminds me of this years Flip Murray. The honeymoons is still on but at some point he is going to have to start taking better shots.
Looks like DD is on the way here.
BillLaimbeer
02-23-2008, 03:17 PM
What is the appearance fee? Let me know and I will consider it.
Roscoe pays me $50 per quarter for participating in chat, plus bonuses for providing important facts, witty comments, and slanderous jabs. Let me know what he offers you.
mikhail1973
02-23-2008, 03:18 PM
Roscoe pays me $50 per quarter for participating in chat, plus bonuses for providing important facts, witty comments, and slanderous jabs. Let me know what he offers you.
That's all he pays you? Wow, you come on the cheap side. :pound:
Luke Slippywalker
02-23-2008, 03:49 PM
He pays me 3 times all that but when I come to collect, he says its buried in the back yard and I have to dig for it. After I shovel all the dirt out and find $.35, he says if I bag all the weeds, he'll pay me $10
OLD SKOOL HQ
02-23-2008, 04:19 PM
Dont worry about trading for a small forward. Here's my crystal ball to the playoffs:
EASTERN.....................WESTERN
1. DETROIT..................DALLAS
2. BOSTON...................PHOENIX
3. ORLANDO..................UTAH
4. CLEVELAND ..............SAN ANTONIO
5. TORONTO.................LOS ANGELES
6. CHICAGO.................HOUSTON
7. ATLANTA.................NEW ORLEANS
8. NEW JERSEY............DENVER
ROUND 1
DETROIT > NETS..........MAVS>NUGGETS
BOST>ATL...................PHOE>NEW O
ORL >CHICAGO.............UTAH>HOUS
CLEVE> TOR................SPURS> LAKERS
ROUND 2
DETROIT>CAVS...........SPURS>MAVS
BOST>ORL..................PHOE>UTAH
ECF............................WCF
DETROIT>BOSTON.........PHOE>SPURS
FINALS
DETROIT OVER PHOENIX
I will be watching Sunday very closely. There shouldnt even be a chat so we can all FOCUS on the game; rewind, pause, etc...Cause this will be the most diverse playoff in history. So the minutes u all desire now will be diminished come round 2.We arent playing the rookies to get them 'ready' for the playoffs. They are playing to get our starters 'ready' for the ECF's! So when the starters come out in the 2nd quarter for 8 minutes and for the 4th quarter for 4 minutes, we can have a +/- of at least 6. Because I truly believe the Pistons are 9 pts better than anyone in the East and 4 pts better than any team in the West.
FreshPrince22
02-23-2008, 05:09 PM
You still have no idea of just how good JMAX is. JMAX vs. Amir is not an issue at all if Amir starts playing some small forward. Imagine a front line of Amir, JMAX, and Sheed. If you can't do that, I will imagine it for you. Totally awesome. We are about to win a championship, and Maxiell will be a big part of it.
Amir is NOT, I repeat, NOT, a small forward. Everything about his game is PF. He doesn't have an offensive game outside of 5 feet, and he's not being utilized if he's hanging around the perimeter defensively.
This has nothing to do with me "not knowing how good JMAX is". It's about need. AJ is our best backup PF. He should be playing more minutes. The reason he is not is because Max deserves minutes as well, and you can't really play those 2 together against many of the teams in the league without being quite undersized.
It's pretty simple to me. Off the bench we have 2 good young PF's (neither of which are suited to play other positions at the moment), and ZERO small forwards. Swap Max for a player with equal impact @ SF, and you've got yourself a much more balanced team. AJ plays more minutes and we get a legit SF for a change.
Lee356
02-23-2008, 05:15 PM
Amir is NOT, I repeat, NOT, a small forward. Everything about his game is PF. He doesn't have an offensive game outside of 5 feet, and he's not being utilized if he's hanging around the perimeter defensively.
This has nothing to do with me "not knowing how good JMAX is". It's about need. AJ is our best backup PF. He should be playing more minutes. The reason he is not is because Max deserves minutes as well, and you can't really play those 2 together against many of the teams in the league without being quite undersized.
It's pretty simple to me. Off the bench we have 2 good young PF's (neither of which are suited to play other positions at the moment), and ZERO small forwards. Swap Max for a player with equal impact @ SF, and you've got yourself a much more balanced team. AJ plays more minutes and we get a legit SF for a change.
Amir has an utterly awesome offensive game out to 15 feet. You just have not seen it. I know you don't know me, and don't trust me. All I can tell you is what I have seen. What I know for an absolute fact. Take what I say as you wish. It won't matter before long as we will all be seeing it shortly enough.
TheeTFD
02-23-2008, 07:56 PM
Dont worry about trading for a small forward. Here's my crystal ball to the playoffs:
EASTERN.....................WESTERN
1. DETROIT..................DALLAS
2. BOSTON...................PHOENIX
3. ORLANDO..................UTAH
4. CLEVELAND ..............SAN ANTONIO
5. TORONTO.................LOS ANGELES
6. CHICAGO.................HOUSTON
7. ATLANTA.................NEW ORLEANS
8. NEW JERSEY............DENVER
ROUND 1
DETROIT > NETS..........MAVS>NUGGETS
BOST>ATL...................PHOE>NEW O
ORL >CHICAGO.............UTAH>HOUS
CLEVE> TOR................SPURS> LAKERS
ROUND 2
DETROIT>CAVS...........SPURS>MAVS
BOST>ORL..................PHOE>UTAH
ECF............................WCF
DETROIT>BOSTON.........PHOE>SPURS
FINALS
DETROIT OVER PHOENIX
I will be watching Sunday very closely. There shouldnt even be a chat so we can all FOCUS on the game; rewind, pause, etc...Cause this will be the most diverse playoff in history. So the minutes u all desire now will be diminished come round 2.We arent playing the rookies to get them 'ready' for the playoffs. They are playing to get our starters 'ready' for the ECF's! So when the starters come out in the 2nd quarter for 8 minutes and for the 4th quarter for 4 minutes, we can have a +/- of at least 6. Because I truly believe the Pistons are 9 pts better than anyone in the East and 4 pts better than any team in the West.
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Nice but New Olreans is the 2 seed
And we are only 3 pts better than the East. And a toss-up with the West over 7 games.:cold:
FreshPrince22
02-23-2008, 08:20 PM
Amir has an utterly awesome offensive game out to 15 feet. You just have not seen it. I know you don't know me, and don't trust me. All I can tell you is what I have seen. What I know for an absolute fact. Take what I say as you wish. It won't matter before long as we will all be seeing it shortly enough.
Describe it for me.
Lee356
02-24-2008, 12:59 AM
Describe it for me.
Whats to describe really? Amir can create his own shot off the dribble. If you give him the ball beyond 15 feet, he will dribble in closer and shoot. And he will not miss. That is how Amir Johnson was prior to us icing him on the bench the last few years, and that is how he will be again once he plays some and gets comfortable again. He has hardly played at all so far. What you have seen to this point is not half of what you will see. (Not that what you have seen is not already pretty awesome.)
BillLaimbeer
02-24-2008, 01:22 PM
I once saw Amir slay a fire-breathing dragon.....with his eyes closed.....and his hands tied behind his back.
Lee356
02-24-2008, 01:35 PM
I once saw Amir slay a fire-breathing dragon.....with his eyes closed.....and his hands tied behind his back.
There you go not giving Amir full credit yet again. You forgot to mention 100 lb. ball and chain.
round
02-24-2008, 02:20 PM
There you go not giving Amir full credit yet again. You forgot to mention 100 lb. ball and chain.
since my wife won't read this i am safe.....
I didn't know he was married?
roscoe36
02-24-2008, 02:25 PM
since my wife won't read this i am safe.....
I didn't know he was married?
I'm emailing it to her now. You are in deep trouble mister! ;)
Lee356
02-24-2008, 02:25 PM
since my wife won't read this i am safe.....
I didn't know he was married?
But now you have all us guys in trouble as our wives our asking us what we are cracking up about.
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