At LA Clippers March 1st, 10:30 PM

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The Pistons travel to the Staples Center to take on the other LA team to close out a four game west coast stint. The once promising Clippers are returning to their lottery bound ways due to injuries. The Pistons will try and get a win after blowing an 18 point lead in Utah Wednesday night, and finish 3-1 on this road trip.

Billups may miss Clippers game:

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080229/SPORTS0102/8022904

Lindsey prolly dresses. Stucky prolly starts.

That's gonna be an L.

BDL's link isn't working for me. Here's what the story (http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080229/SPORTS0102/802290465/1127) says as of now:

(http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080229/SPORTS0102/802290465/1127#)Pistons (http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080229/SPORTS0102/802290465/1127#) guard Chauncey Billups may miss Saturday's game against the Los Angeles Clippers because of a personal matter.

Billups flew back to Detroit before the team's practice on Friday. It was not immediately known when he would rejoin the team. The Pistons game against the Clippers (http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080229/SPORTS0102/802290465/1127#) marks the end of their current road trip. They play home against Seattle on Tuesday.


Hopefully it isn't anything too serious. Might be a loss now at the Clippers without him, but if there's any game on this trip that's not an automatic L with him out of the lineup, it's this one.

The Clippers have been in most games this season...they just are not there in the end. Kaman has been MIA for week due to a sore back and Cassell hadn't played this week either prior to his release. The Clippers do play a little better when a decent team from the east arrives so we will see which one shows up and who is dressed. Shut down Magette and its a automatic W.

If CB is not there, then Sheed will have to get off his 2-game funk and lead us to a close out victory on this road trip.


I kind of enjoy the same luck that Lee has with his duaghter in terms of attending Pistons games. I will be in attendance tommorow at Staples and I have not sat through a Piston loss in person since game 6 of the 1988 Piston-Laker series. That is approximately 11-0 since then so if CB is missing and we are Rodney Struggling, I may have to suit up to assure a victory:thumb::laugh:

sounds like billups will just stay in detroit since this is the end of the trip. personally this is good - clippers aren't that special, whether we win or lose doesn't matter, and we can give stuckey / dixon tons of extra minutes.

edit - mccoskey updated his blog. stuckey will get his first nba start - congrats kid. also sounds like flip murray will be dressed and playing for the clips.

At least this will be different and interesting to watch.

Stuckey will be going up against his old practice partners, Murray. It will be fun to see what Dixon can do out there.

Flip Murray will light us up as we give him the sympathy defense like we did memo earlier in the week:)

Some have said Stuckey can be Flip Murray-esque at times. I'm curious to see how that match-up plays out.

If we can't beat the Clips w/o Billups, that's pretty sad.

This started as a 7.5 DR. But no CB 7.7, FMurrary lurking, 7.9.
Stuck and Dixon should be able to handle this. But if FM goes off more than 20, let's hang Skoo. He ran him off with his hate remarks.

But if FM goes off more than 20, let's hang Skoo. He ran him off with his hate remarks.
Thanks for the laugh.

I think HQ can handle his comeuppance, if and when it is necessary.

I'm looking forward to checking out Al Thornton some more. If Dunleavy had a clue, and played him big minutes to start the year, I think he'd have a solid shot a Rookie of the Year. He put up 33/12/4 tonight off the bench against Denver.

And if AJ doesn't get 20+ minutes to make up for the Utah fiasco, I'm gonna 'Flip'.

This should be an interesting outlook on how the team is going to maneuver on match up potentials for the playoffs.

Confidence levels and experience might play a very big role on trust factors and this will greatly effect minutes played by the rookies during the playoffs series.

AJ, AA and Stuckey will now have to start providing more than the usual intensity on the defensive end. Lock-downs on the defensive side is a given during the playoffs and all teams tighten up this emphasis.

JD acquired Dixon (and a very good move it was) for his offensive potential during the ubiquitous droughts the guards seem to get after the jump shots don't fall.

My eyes will be on Dixon and it will be a very big game for him.

apparently ASB says flip murray is going to sign with the pacers instead of the clippers, so we won't see him tonight

apparently ASB says flip murray is going to sign with the pacers instead of the clippers, so we won't see him tonight

Pacers-Clippers whatever losers>>>>Jr just wants to play--givem' the rock:)

This started as a 7.5 DR. But no CB 7.7, FMurrary lurking, 7.9.
Stuck and Dixon should be able to handle this. But if FM goes off more than 20, let's hang Skoo. He ran him off with his hate remarks.

"haaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy...."........LOL

Thanks for the laugh.

I think HQ can handle his comeuppance, if and when it is necessary.


10 THINGS #6 IS GOOD FOR:

10. comes in handy when u need to send someone into a burning building
9. food taster for Fidel Castro
8. Roger Clemens injection double
7. use his face as background for fake moon shuttle landings
6. eddie griffin's stunt double(the player not the actor)
5. pit bull toy
4. monique's sex slave
3. ben wallace's jock washer
2. wooden bridge test pilot
1. not a 1$%$@$#!!!!**& thang! HE BETTER NOT SHOW UP 2NITE..I'LL KILL EM,KILL HIM, I MEAN TOTALLY
TOTALLY
TOTALLY
TOTALLY!!!!!

.....is it just me? is it me?...

10 THINGS #6 IS GOOD FOR:

10. comes in handy when u need to send someone into a burning building
9. food taster for Fidel Castro
8. Roger Clemens injection double
7. use his face as background for fake moon shuttle landings
6. eddie griffin's stunt double(the player not the actor)
5. pit bull toy
4. monique's sex slave
3. ben wallace's jock washer
2. wooden bridge test pilot
1. not a 1$%$@$#!!!!**& thang! HE BETTER NOT SHOW UP 2NITE..I'LL KILL EM,KILL HIM, I MEAN TOTALLY
TOTALLY
TOTALLY
TOTALLY!!!!!

.....is it just me? is it me?...

Nothing in the LA times this morning mentioning the former #6jr will sign with the Clippers so I doubt if he surfaces tonight...other than to hang out with Hunter. With former Clipper Jeff mCinnes being waived last night and Tyronn Lue also being released by the Kings, the Clippers may look at one of them before they go with the "hated one"

Nothing in the LA times this morning mentioning the former #6jr will sign with the Clippers so I doubt if he surfaces tonight...other than to hang out with Hunter. With former Clipper Jeff mCinnes being waived last night and Tyronn Lue also being released by the Kings, the Clippers may look at one of them before they go with the "hated one"
good 4 him...yeah...he betts not show, cuz u know...i might go on one of my killin sprees...he mess witme, they'll be consequences and repercussions!!!!!!!!

The Clippers have been in most games this season...they just are not there in the end. Kaman has been MIA for week due to a sore back and Cassell hadn't played this week either prior to his release. The Clippers do play a little better when a decent team from the east arrives so we will see which one shows up and who is dressed. Shut down Magette and its a automatic W.

If CB is not there, then Sheed will have to get off his 2-game funk and lead us to a close out victory on this road trip.


I kind of enjoy the same luck that Lee has with his duaghter in terms of attending Pistons games. I will be in attendance tommorow at Staples and I have not sat through a Piston loss in person since game 6 of the 1988 Piston-Laker series. That is approximately 11-0 since then so if CB is missing and we are Rodney Struggling, I may have to suit up to assure a victory:thumb::laugh:

Good luck. After last Wednesday, I'm now one for two. :Cry: LOL.

You might be off the hook for now Skoo...

Chat is open!!!

http://www.pistonsforum.com/misc.php?do=flashchat

AA + Amir + Bench = no blown lead :)

Hermann needs a shot to take Hayes' minutes. Jarvis is going to be a major liability on defense in the post-season (more so than he already is).

Hermann is just more versatile, can shoot the 3, drive to the basket, pass, defend, etc.

Dixon can score, but showed signs of being a chucker. For the most part though i was impressed by his shot selection. Got blown by on defense a few times by some player on the Clips that i couldn't even name.

Good game

edited to add;

Amir Johnson; highest +/- again

Nice decisive win with no CB in the lineup. Sheed was blazing hot in the first half, and Tay dominated both by distributing the ball and by taking it to the hole at every opportunity. And Flip managed to remember to put Amir in the game, with positive results. :)

Even though the Utah loss left a sour taste in everyone's mouth, let's step back and appreciate the fact that they went 3-1 on this tough road trip. Looking at it on the schedule before the All-Star break, I would have optimistically pegged it as a likely 2-2 at best.

AJ a +25. It seems the D goes from matador to lock-down instantly when he steps on the floor.

In other news. Is Flip really going to continue letting Jarvis chuck terrible shots and commit stupid fouls when we clearly have a 6th man caliber SF riding the pine in Walter Herrmann? Shame he's going to walk next year, and we'll never find out how it would have worked out.

Based on how Dixon was shooting it tonight, it might be best to go for a Stuckey/Dixon/Herrmann/Max/AJ bench with a little AA sprinkled in. Seems like a good balance of slashing, shooting, defense, and hustle.

In other news. Is Flip really going to continue letting Jarvis chuck terrible shots and commit stupid fouls when we clearly have a 6th man caliber SF riding the pine in Walter Herrmann?


The main problem here i think is Flip is convinced that Walter Hermann is a PF. Someone should text him, and let him know Walter can play the 3.

Walter had the crowd on its feet.


With Dixon looking solid will we still need Lindsey for the playoffs?

Great win without Chauncey!

10 game observations

1. Dyess sucked in this one.

2. Great way to begin the game for Sheed and ended up with a lot of points and a lot of rest. Great D, great way to pound the ball inside and take Powell and the other Clip bigs to school.

3. Great game by Tay. Shows he can be the man when it counts. Dunks, floaters, hooks, jumpers.

4. Rip has to yield when it comes to bringing up the ball. He tries too hard sometimes to take his man off the dribble and make the plays but that's not his best game. Two-chest, roll off those screens, man. Quit trying to force every darn shot. But nice points nonetheless.

5. Dixon was great off the bench. Another weapon. He could always score and shows in this game. Great pick-up for Joe IMO, contrary to a lot of opinions.

6. Amir was a game changer as usual. Hang in there young fella, you'll get your due.

7. Stuckey and Afflalo didn't quite impress me in this game. But you have to love their intensity, and their desire to be out there. They're not called on to be saviors, and play within the flow of the game and do not make silly mistakes often.

8. JMax was great off the boards as well. Jumper not quite where it used to be but I expect him to get it back when his legs catch up.

9. Dice was the only thing sucky in this game and the fact that I don't know what happened to Chauncey. Oh and Jarvis takes 2nd place to Dice as well. Anybody have an idea?

10. Herrmann. Herrmann. Herrmann. Everybody cheers this guy. He brings so much energy on the floor. Must be the hair. He looks funny out there. Out of place but still fits in. And not the most athletic, and I will argue that to anybody who says he's more athletic than Jarvis, but he has moves man. Hehe, you had to love those two drives late in garbage time where he yo-yo'd the ball just hiding it from Clipper hands and laying it in. Twice! Hehe, It looked weird and cool at the same time. And that pass along the baseline was a beauty. HVC=Herrmann. The only difference from Darko is that he actually makes it count.

GO PISTONS!!!!!:nerd2:

The plays of the bench were fun and excited. The local commentators praised Stuckey and Amire like no one, the praised JD for Dixon trade, they also called Maxiel as Ben II. Now the team had had a 3-4 road trip to the west, more than expected, but the ugly loss at Utah is still something has to be addressed, we had lost games in way liked coaches were brain dead at court side for so many times in past 3 years and repeated again and again. Shall we can just cross our fingers and pray during playoff games ?

With Dixon looking solid will we still need Lindsey for the playoffs?
Are we going to be facing the Clippers in the playoffs?

Are we going to be facing the Clippers in the playoffs?

Is that a rhetorical question?

I think an argument can be made for Dixon over Hunter.

I expected a fun game to watch, and I was not disappointed in the slightest. Stuckey started, but had the show stolen by Dixon as far as point guards go. Dixon looked good hitting his first 6 shots, dishing 5 assists too while playing fine D. Sheed started by hitting triples, and then kept working the inside like a fiend. Tay was game MVP with a great double double, 22 points, career high 10 assists. Most of Tay's damage was taking it right to the basket. Rip hit a few shots. Dyess was scoreless, contributed some bounds.

But even with Tay and Sheed on fire tonight, our starters could have lost this game for lack of D. Fortunately though, Flip remembered to play Amir this time, and so we slaughtered the Clips. Amir finally came into the game with 8 minutes to go in the 2nd quarter, and wow, the defense all the sudden, quite mysteriously, held. (Mysterious to Flip only and his supporters. Anyone else can see that Amir is dynamite on D.) The lead began to build. Most of the 3rd quarter was just trading baskets. Then Amir came in at the end, and the lead went up some more. In the end, the team was plus 5 with Amir not in the game, and plus 25 with him in the game. Our defense is that much better when he plays. Sheed had four blocks himself in this one, and it was him and Amir manning the big spots as we started to pull away in the 2nd quarter.

Stuckey scored on a couple of cuts to the basket among his 4 makes. (I missed a portion of the 1st half where he made a couple of shots so I don't know what he did there. I had the game on pause, and then flipped channels - when you do that you come back to live action, missing part of what happened while you had it paused. Oops.)

Hayes made a few shots, one kind of meaninless in garbage time. And they burned him on D a few consecutive times in the first half. My vote for who loses minutes to Dixon is Hayes. Another guy is Hunter, who simply may not be needed down the stretch here after all.

Afflalo hit one shot mid 4th quarter. He did not play in the first half except the last few seconds. Instead, Hayes played a lot and Tay spelled Rip some. Now, I don't mind seeing us doing something different, like playing Tay at shooting guard some, especially since Afflalo did get to play the last 14 minutes of the game. A guy who plays good solid D like that should always be rewarded with more minutes.

Is that a rhetorical question?
No.
I think an argument can be made for Dixon over Hunter.Sure. Both of them are very flawed players, but each has different strengths.

I just think it's a huge stretch to call Dixon "solid" based on one impressive game against a lottery team with a horrible backcourt, when you take a glance at his career and see that it's filled with a lot of impressive games and a lot more unimpressive ones. He is what he is - pretty much indistinguishable from every other conscienceless journeyman bench guard in the Association.

And yes, that might make him better than Lindsey Hunter. But "solid" is a lot better than Lindsey Hunter is at this point in his career.

Hermann needs a shot to take Hayes' minutes. Jarvis is going to be a major liability on defense in the post-season (more so than he already is).

Hermann is just more versatile, can shoot the 3, drive to the basket, pass, defend, etc.
I completely agree. I don't know what more he has to do, or how much more poorly Hayes has to play for this guy to get a freaking chance!

I LOVE his attitude and energy. There's no wonder why he's been a crowd pleaser everywhere he's gone.

As others here have mentioned, this game was looking like a typical Pistons game (maintaining a small-medium lead) until Amir Johnson came in and we went on a 10-0 run. The pattern is making itself clear. He plays good D, which results in easy O for us when we get blocks, steals, etc. This is why we are seeing so many of these gaudy runs when he is in the game.

Observatios:

Dyess only attempted 1 shot. I noticed that he passed up a completely open jumper from his sweet spot in the 2nd half and then threw it away on a pass. Not sure what the problem was. Maybe b/c Sheed was rolling, he didn't look to score, then wanted to let the young guys get shots later? His D looked a little shaky tonight too. Maybe he has a cold or something.
Tay got to show off a bit without Chauncey.
Sheed was having one of his best games of the year, until he got completely bored and took that horrible lefty shot over the backboard. That was about it for him.
I'm really not basing this on the results, but Dixon's form looks pretty good. Nice compact release without too many moving parts, nice arc, and good rotation. He also seemed surprisingly like a 1, which does not fit his rep as a 1/2.
Herrmann with the razzle dazzle. In only 4:40, he took 4 shots, got fouled, grabbed 3 rebounds, and dished out 2 assists?!?! That is at least 9 touches in a very short period of time. That baseline pass was one of the year's passing lighlights for Det.Statistical Anamolies:

We made 20 more FG's than they did (44-24). I'm not sure I've ever seen that big of a disparity.
They attempted 34 FT's to our 12. That is also one of the biggest spreads. However, these are correlated, since when we foul them on a shot it gives them free throws and doesn't count as a shot attempts.
Cory Magette got more free throws than our entire squad.
In the 2nd and 4th quarters, the Clippers scored 27 total points. Nice job ZOO CREW! 18 total points if you ignore free throws.

Nice game for "Pistons home/away crowd" as once again it appeared that there were more us with Pistons jerseys/garb there than those with Clipper gear. Of course you heard the "DEEEtriot Basketball chants"", the SHEEED everytime he got the rock,>> even "ball don't lie" was yelled out when Sheed had a bogus foul called on him. There were plenty of oohs and aahs and hollers on JMAX's dunks and attempted dunks, and of course the big cheers when Fabio dazzled the crowd in the end. The Pistons fans without Detroit gear came out of their shell and were there cheering in the second half when it appeared the game was over for the Clippers, as the boys in blue led from start to finish.....

The Clips really miss EB and Livingston....no wonder Sam abandoned them.... Kaman played in his first game in a week after getting an epidural, (no he is not pregnant), but this was supposed to eliminate the back pain.) He started out good but faded after playing the whole first quarter. Cuttino Mobley was a no show and seem to have a stomach cramps midway thru the game. poor Maggete...he got his points but most of them came at the FT line (he has averaged on 10 points at the line the last 11 games). Dunleavy came out of the lockerroom with a scared look on his face and the end of the game he walked off with the same face.

Now back to the Pistons..Tay took over for the missing CB, shouting directions and scoring on jumpers, short pops and runners. He lead the team in points and assists with 22-10, and it appeared that he had something to prove to his relatives friends sprinkled throughout the crowdd. AJ returned to the line-up and provided his relatives and high school friends with a couple of blocks and steller defense as wll as leading the team with rebounds.

Sheed was the catalyst in the beginning scoring 13 points in the first 7.5 mins but only 4 after that. I actually told my wife at halftime that despite Sheeds first half scoring heroics, he would not top 20 and I was right. Those 4 blocks were enouht to frustrate Kaman & Co though.

The bench was impressive tonight. After starting off slow in the 2nd qtr, they finally came around and had the Clipper faithful wondering who they were and yours truly had to provide resume information.

Although Stuckey was OK in his first start, Dixon was a pleasant surprise off the bench leading the zoo crew in scoring and assists. The zoo crew scored 41 points as Dunleavy threw out the white flag with about 5 mins left in the contest>>er actually this was no contest. It was just an excuse for Team Piston to enjoy some sunshine and R & R California and then end it with a nice entertaining scrimmage for the all of the former Detroiters who migrated out here over the last 25 years.

I sat about 4 rows back of the Clippers bench in the corner by the tunnel so I was not able to see what was going on at the Pistons bench down the way, but I can tell you that coach-in-training Lindsey Hunter walked out on the floor with the rest of the coaches on every time out and provided his opinion. If Dixon can play that way vs the C's next week, we might be able to shut down Hunter for good.

Meaningless stats> Pistons scored 52 points in the paint, more than 20+ above their average. They got 28 assists, which translates to 38 games in a row that a game topping 24 assists have resulted into a W ( and no Chauncy>>who needs him any:)) Pistons are a league best 25-1 when scoring 100+ points.

Time to get some rest now, got to get up and drive to Vegas in the morning. I will check my photos and if any are decent I will upload when I return Tuesday....

Wow, thanks La Dre, wonderful first hand courtside journal, thank you.

Wow, Thanks LaDre.........Nice Avatar........:)

No.
Sure. Both of them are very flawed players, but each has different strengths.

I just think it's a huge stretch to call Dixon "solid" based on one impressive game against a lottery team with a horrible backcourt, when you take a glance at his career and see that it's filled with a lot of impressive games and a lot more unimpressive ones. He is what he is - pretty much indistinguishable from every other conscienceless journeyman bench guard in the Association.

And yes, that might make him better than Lindsey Hunter. But "solid" is a lot better than Lindsey Hunter is at this point in his career.

I suppose Lindsey's defensive strengths could give him the edge in the end. If Dixon is indeed just another conscienceless journeyman bench guard in the Association Lindsey wins hands down. No contest.

I think Dixon may have a touch more upside than that.

games like this show the importance of one of our most un appreciated players... prince is so important to this team with how he just fills in where ever he's needed, 10 assists last night think it was 8 in the first half when the game was still a game.

And AJ is again a gamer, can only go from the online stats to make this judgement but again he seems to be playing better then max, and really is to the point he should be the first big off the bench.

If they keep focus and remember how they have gotten to this point the future looks good.

I suppose Lindsey's defensive strengths could give him the edge in the end. If Dixon is indeed just another conscienceless journeyman bench guard in the Association Lindsey wins hands down. No contest.

I think Dixon may have a touch more upside than that.

It at least seems that Dixon might be able to offer something. Unfortunately, finding PT is too hard for Flip. Who knows when we'll see Dixon again, unless it's a blowout?

Why does Flip see the glass as half empty? Why, instead of playing guys, seeing what can do and fitting them into the mix, does he seem to fixate on what they can't do? He then will play them in only specific, limited situations.

The AJ in Utah fiasco is a perfect example. He doesn't see AJ as someone who can run the floor, score some easy hoops and protect the rim some. Nope, he sees AJ as someone who can't play with Max. It is that simple. Max in = AJ out.

The same level of thinking applies to Hayes and Herrrrrrrrman. No way both of them can play. Only a lunatic would think you could fit them both into the game. Ditto for AA. Who has room for a solid, aggressive defender who doesn't want plays run for him? Not Flip, he sees a guy who has to be out there with the starters to cover all of his deficiencies. Too bad you can't play 9 guys at once, then Flip could do it.

It at least seems that Dixon might be able to offer something. Unfortunately, finding PT is too hard for Flip. Who knows when we'll see Dixon again, unless it's a blowout?

Why does Flip see the glass as half empty? Why, instead of playing guys, seeing what can do and fitting them into the mix, does he seem to fixate on what they can't do? He then will play them in only specific, limited situations.

The AJ in Utah fiasco is a perfect example. He doesn't see AJ as someone who can run the floor, score some easy hoops and protect the rim some. Nope, he sees AJ as someone who can't play with Max. It is that simple. Max in = AJ out.

The same level of thinking applies to Hayes and Herrrrrrrrman. No way both of them can play. Only a lunatic would think you could fit them both into the game. Ditto for AA. Who has room for a solid, aggressive defender who doesn't want plays run for him? Not Flip, he sees a guy who has to be out there with the starters to cover all of his deficiencies. Too bad you can't play 9 guys at once, then Flip could do it.


After watching Cola platoon regardless of clock and score for years on end, I'm finding it easier to tolerate Flip, and hope when the playoffs come he falls bass ackwards into the right patterns when it counts.

:fingerscr

I completely agree. I don't know what more he has to do, or how much more poorly Hayes has to play for this guy to get a freaking chance!

I LOVE his attitude and energy. There's no wonder why he's been a crowd pleaser everywhere he's gone.

He's great, and i've noticed he also plays a more "team game" than Jarvis. Flip is notoriously slow to change though so i'm not seeing it happen.

I just think of Jarvis on PP/Lebron in the playoffs. That stretch alone is what can possibly lose up games (in Hayes getting lit up/or Tay playing the whole game). Hermann can't be much worse. He's an irritant and he tries extremely hard.

The plays of the bench were fun and excited. The local commentators praised Stuckey and Amire like no one, the praised JD for Dixon trade, they also called Maxiel as Ben II. Now the team had had a 3-4 road trip to the west, more than expected, but the ugly loss at Utah is still something has to be addressed, we had lost games in way liked coaches were brain dead at court side for so many times in past 3 years and repeated again and again. Shall we can just cross our fingers and pray during playoff games ?

I think that's all we can do at this point. I read an article saying all bench minutes would be cut in PO's, and AJ would be used in situational minutes. If that's the case, say goodbye to our defense.

It could've have been speculation on the writer's part. I HOPE it was speculation on the writer's part.

Dixon can score, but showed signs of being a chucker. For the most part though i was impressed by his shot selection. Got blown by on defense a few times by some player on the Clips that i couldn't even name.




Are you joking? He made his first 6 shots, all in the flow of the offense. His defense was solid. It sounds like you are just worried one of your boys is going to lose some PT. Don't fault Dixon for having a great game.

Are you joking? He made his first 6 shots, all in the flow of the offense. His defense was solid. It sounds like you are just worried one of your boys is going to lose some PT. Don't fault Dixon for having a great game.

I've watched enough of Dixon in TOR to see that he has chucking tendencies. And he took 2 contested shots he had no business taking. Maybe they were heat-check shots or something. Also you conveniently didn't bold the part of my quote where i said i was overall impressed with his shot selection.

Which "boy" are you talking about. Aaron Afflalo? If so i will always take defense over offense, and Dixon was getting blown by by some little Clippers guard.

Personally, i think they should both play depending on what the situation asks for, but Flip Saunders is not that smart.

I've watched enough of Dixon in TOR to see that he has chucking tendencies. And he took 2 contested shots he had no business taking. Maybe they were heat-check shots or something. Also you conveniently didn't bold the part of my quote where i said i was overall impressed with his shot selection.

Which "boy" are you talking about. Aaron Afflalo? If so i will always take defense over offense, and Dixon was getting blown by by some little Clippers guard.

Personally, i think they should both play depending on what the situation asks for, but Flip Saunders is not that smart.


Isn't a chucker someone who forces shots using a poor shot selection? Can someone be both a chucker and have good shot selection?


Also, do you think Afflalo is quick enough to defend point guards?

I don't care if he is a chucker, as long as he makes them all.

Also, notice that he has a few assists sprinkled in there.


Afflalo hit a 3 last night too. I think that he does have range from the corners, and just needs to get more open looks from there without hesitating.

As for Dixon, having a good shooting game means nothing. We need to see consistency. I remember Jarvis having the same start. Another thing, i can't believe how much chanting the pistons had on this game. you couldn't tell they are playing on the road.

Isn't a chucker someone who forces shots using a poor shot selection? Can someone be both a chucker and have good shot selection?

A chucker can have good shot selection on occasion (ex; Flip Murray) :)

I think the way i look at Dixon is clouded a little bit from his TOR playing days. In the Clips, game he forced maybe 2 shots, but i'd like to see what he does against actual defense since they were leaving him wide open for the most part.

I think he'll turn out to be a mini-Hayes with better defense.


Also, do you think Afflalo is quick enough to defend point guards?

He was the only player on our team that was giving AI trouble. If he can do that, i'm willing to give it a shot, but it's kind of a moot point anyway. The PG rotation is going to be Billups/Stuck/Hunter. If Dixon gets PT, it will probably be at the SG. What i'm curious to see is Afflalo's defense on SF's.

I've watched enough of Dixon in TOR to see that he has chucking tendencies. And he took 2 contested shots he had no business taking. Maybe they were heat-check shots or something. Also you conveniently didn't bold the part of my quote where i said i was overall impressed with his shot selection.

Which "boy" are you talking about. Aaron Afflalo? If so i will always take defense over offense, and Dixon was getting blown by by some little Clippers guard.

Personally, i think they should both play depending on what the situation asks for, but Flip Saunders is not that smart.


Hey Lpgirl, Dixon probably was a chucker in Toronto because the raps are not a championship caliber team and you have a lot of jump shooters in Toronto.

I have been watching Dixon since his first year at University of Maryland and his 2 years with the Wizards. He is a very intelligent player and his knock in college was he was too unselfish with the ball.

He is defintely a team player, if Flip gives JD minutes in the rotation, you will be very impressed. His defensive lapses may be due to still learning the system because JD is a lockdown defender.

I think Flip may need to experiment with Juan and AA on the floor together.

Not much to add. Great win without CB as we used to struggle with that last year, of course the competition was not great but a 30pt win is a 30 pt win.

Big question for me going in were how Stucky would do as a starter and would Amir play. Not sure how many of you were like me on the edge of my seat 2nd quarter wondering if Amir would play. Well he did and made a huge impact in this game.

Why were there so many Piston fans at that game? You do hear some cheers for the Pistons in road games but that was more than usual.

Dixon made a good case for himself for some mins so we will see. He is not going to be that hot everygame, I did think he made a good case for himself in not trying to be too much of a scorere. His points came along with 5 assists and he did seem to pick his shot selections at the right times. I see it as more of a choice between Dixon and AA.

Why were there so many Piston fans at that game? You do hear some cheers for the Pistons in road games but that was more than usual.

Maybe because the Clips fans didn't have too much to cheer about? :nopompom:

Also because Dre, our man in La-La-Land, was leading the way for the Pistons fans in the house! :cheerleader:

Nice game to get well. But with so much confidence they could blow it if they faced tough competition in the next game. But the Sonics aren't that team.

Maybe because the Clips fans didn't have too much to cheer about? :nopompom:

Also because Dre, our man in La-La-Land, was leading the way for the Pistons fans in the house! :cheerleader:

I was just curious because the Pistons are not supposed to be liked nationally.

What about you Piston fans here from LA, how did you all come to follow the Pistons?

I expected a fun game to watch, and I was not disappointed in the slightest. Stuckey started, but had the show stolen by Dixon as far as point guards go. Dixon looked good hitting his first 6 shots, dishing 5 assists too while playing fine D. Sheed started by hitting triples, and then kept working the inside like a fiend. Tay was game MVP with a great double double, 22 points, career high 10 assists. Most of Tay's damage was taking it right to the basket. Rip hit a few shots. Dyess was scoreless, contributed some bounds.

But even with Tay and Sheed on fire tonight, our starters could have lost this game for lack of D. Fortunately though, Flip remembered to play Amir this time, and so we slaughtered the Clips. Amir finally came into the game with 8 minutes to go in the 2nd quarter, and wow, the defense all the sudden, quite mysteriously, held. (Mysterious to Flip only and his supporters. Anyone else can see that Amir is dynamite on D.) The lead began to build. Most of the 3rd quarter was just trading baskets. Then Amir came in at the end, and the lead went up some more. In the end, the team was plus 5 with Amir not in the game, and plus 25 with him in the game. Our defense is that much better when he plays. Sheed had four blocks himself in this one, and it was him and Amir manning the big spots as we started to pull away in the 2nd quarter.

Stuckey scored on a couple of cuts to the basket among his 4 makes. (I missed a portion of the 1st half where he made a couple of shots so I don't know what he did there. I had the game on pause, and then flipped channels - when you do that you come back to live action, missing part of what happened while you had it paused. Oops.)

Hayes made a few shots, one kind of meaninless in garbage time. And they burned him on D a few consecutive times in the first half. My vote for who loses minutes to Dixon is Hayes. Another guy is Hunter, who simply may not be needed down the stretch here after all.

Afflalo hit one shot mid 4th quarter. He did not play in the first half except the last few seconds. Instead, Hayes played a lot and Tay spelled Rip some. Now, I don't mind seeing us doing something different, like playing Tay at shooting guard some, especially since Afflalo did get to play the last 14 minutes of the game. A guy who plays good solid D like that should always be rewarded with more minutes.

SUGGESTION FROM THE CABLE MAN!!!!:

Lee, I assume u have a DVR or TIVO. Whether u are watching live or not, ALWAYS USE the record option. That way when u turn back, u can rewind back or FF through the commercials.

I was born in Detroit and moved away as a kid. Became enamored with the Bad Boys and I was hooked on Piston basketball. I was disappointed in the Grant Hill years. But I became excited again when Ben Wallace blossomed. I said to myself, the Pistons finally have a real piece...

I went to the game two years ago and yes, there are a lot of Piston fans at Clipper games.

On Dixon, well it certainly looks like he has a shot. That is good. He was backed down a few times on defense though. I wouldn't bury Lindsay though. Hunter can be part of a playoff strategy where our 2nd team guards press the opposition for a 3-5 minute period. I would play Lindsay in two very short stints each half.

I can't wait to see what Ratliff has assuming he signs. I don't buy he is a 5th man. IF he is still active, I can see him in the game the last few minutes next to Sheed. I am ok with Maxiel and willing to give Amir a try late in the game. I am not comfortable with Dyss in the last few minutes on defense and he is not a great free thrower either.

SUGGESTION FROM THE CABLE MAN!!!!:

Lee, I assume u have a DVR or TIVO. Whether u are watching live or not, ALWAYS USE the record option. That way when u turn back, u can rewind back or FF through the commercials.

Don't worry. I will be watching the whole game again in a few moments. While doing exercise.

Don't worry. I will be watching the whole game again in a few moments. While doing exercise.

To the FILM!!!

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Just messin with ya Lee! :)

I believe the phrase was While doing exercises.

I believe the phrase was While doing exercises.

And clearly he needs it! :sssh:

:pound:

i loved when max elbowed kaman in the chest to gain position for a rebound after a pistons free throw. we're bullying people.

I was just curious because the Pistons are not supposed to be liked nationally.

What about you Piston fans here from LA, how did you all come to follow the Pistons?

When I moved to LA in 1980, I was 26 years old and single. I went out almost every weekend looking for my future wife. :inlove:

While out I ran into college and high school friends and aquaintances from Cass Tech, Cooley and Mumford Hi-Schools, EMU, U/M and MSU that I knew back in the day from the school and hangin out the Detroit disco clubs of late 70's.

They were everywhere....There is an annual Detroit Picnic in West LA that over 300-400 former Detroiters attend and when the Bad Boys won the back-to back in 89-90 and the Wolverines won the tourney, Piston and Woverine gear and garb were everywhere...so we were able to ID each other. Even though the rivalry is there for the Pistons and Lakers, Pistons fans show up en masse for Clippers games because there are more tickets available, they are cheaper and usually it is a WIN:)

Last night the DJ at Staples was trying to rev up the crowd before the game and he asked for the Clipper fans to cheer and they gave a weak- blah ok we are here cheer. But when he asked if there were any Pistons fans in the house, the cheer was much larger than that of the Clipper faithful. Believe me it has been like that every year especially since 2004 with Sheeds # 36 being the most popular jersey being worn. Last night there were a lot of Billups, Prince, Rip, Zeke jerseys about too and one Aaron Afflalo one. I went to Pistons game in Orlando and Dallas last year and there were a lot of Piston garb there too and plenty of cheers.

Don't worry. I will be watching the whole game again in a few moments. While doing exercise.

I watched part of the replay when I got home last night and me and my wife show up in everyframe where there was free throw shooting for the Clips in the first half and Pistons in the second half. If I had known before hand I would worn my PistonsForum t-shirt and stood up each time. I wore my Sheed Jersey so even though I was able to point me and the wife out to my two sons later, no one else may noticed it was us since we blended in with all of the other Piston gear clad fans:)

When I moved to LA in 1980, I was 26 years old and single. I went out almost every weekend looking for my future wife. :inlove:

While out I ran into college and high school friends and aquaintances from Cass Tech, Cooley and Mumford Hi-Schools, EMU, U/M and MSU that I knew back in the day from the school and hangin out the Detroit disco clubs of late 70's.

They were everywhere....There is an annual Detroit Picnic in West LA that over 300-400 former Detroiters attend and when the Bad Boys won the back-to back in 89-90 and the Wolverines won the tourney, Piston and Woverine gear and garb were everywhere...so we were able to ID each other. Even though the rivalry is there for the Pistons and Lakers, Pistons fans show up en masse for Clippers games because there are more tickets available, they are cheaper and usually it is a WIN:)

Last night the DJ at Staples was trying to rev up the crowd before the game and he asked for the Clipper fans to cheer and they gave a weak- blah ok we are here cheer. But when he asked if there were any Pistons fans in the house, the cheer was much larger than that of the Clipper faithful. Believe me it has been like that every year especially since 2004 with Sheeds # 36 being the most popular jersey being worn. Last night there were a lot of Billups, Prince, Rip, Zeke jerseys about too and one Aaron Afflalo one. I went to Pistons game in Orlando and Dallas last year and there were a lot of Piston garb there too and plenty of cheers.

Thanks. So there are a lot of former Michiganders in LA who moved there? That would explain it.

Overall, I believe there are a lot more Piston fans out there than the media gives us credit for.

When I moved to LA in 1980, I was 26 years old and single. I went out almost every weekend looking for my future wife. :inlove:

While out I ran into college and high school friends and aquaintances from Cass Tech, Cooley and Mumford Hi-Schools, EMU, U/M and MSU that I knew back in the day from the school and hangin out the Detroit disco clubs of late 70's.

They were everywhere....There is an annual Detroit Picnic in West LA that over 300-400 former Detroiters attend and when the Bad Boys won the back-to back in 89-90 and the Wolverines won the tourney, Piston and Woverine gear and garb were everywhere...so we were able to ID each other. Even though the rivalry is there for the Pistons and Lakers, Pistons fans show up en masse for Clippers games because there are more tickets available, they are cheaper and usually it is a WIN:)

Last night the DJ at Staples was trying to rev up the crowd before the game and he asked for the Clipper fans to cheer and they gave a weak- blah ok we are here cheer. But when he asked if there were any Pistons fans in the house, the cheer was much larger than that of the Clipper faithful. Believe me it has been like that every year especially since 2004 with Sheeds # 36 being the most popular jersey being worn. Last night there were a lot of Billups, Prince, Rip, Zeke jerseys about too and one Aaron Afflalo one. I went to Pistons game in Orlando and Dallas last year and there were a lot of Piston garb there too and plenty of cheers.


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Thanks. So there are a lot of former Michiganders in LA who moved there? That would explain it.

Overall, I believe there are a lot more Piston fans out there than the media gives us credit for.

Lots of Pistons fans in Seattle too.

Wish that I'm not the only Pistonsnut down here, but I doubt.

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hahahaha... sent to NBADL??? That's hilarious :pound::pound:

How many users have been banned from this site before?

Wish that I'm not the only Pistonsnut down here, but I doubt.

I know what you mean. When I spent a few months in China with my wife back in 2006, practically nobody had even heard of the Pistons. Bunch of T-Mac and Yao lovers...:gun1: LOL