For what? A round of peanuts for the dugout? What are you going to get for him?

Yeah, like the poster before me said, release him. I wasn't proposing a trade.

Rodney sucked, but Leyland set him up for failure in knowing how he has blown games recently. First Rodney walked the leadoff man, then he hit the next guy in the sternum (that was scary and had to hurt like hell!). Leyland should have yanked him right then...but nooooo.

Anybody have a count of how many times the Tigers have walked in the winning run this season? It seems like it's been at least 4 or 5 times.

A little bright spot on the otherwise grim situation:


The Sports Network - Major League Baseball (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=mlb/news/newstest.aspx?id=4169484)


Detroit Tigers infielder Miguel Cabrera was selected as the American League Player of the Month for July.

Cabrera batted .330 with eight homers and a major league-best 31 runs batted in last month. He also posted a slugging percentage of .848 with an on-base percentage of .357. The 25-year-old native of Venezuela collected 11 multi-hit games and added a nine-game hitting streak during the month. He is batting .298 with 20 homers and 82 RBI this season.

I don't know what it is they get their 1 World Series look and it's by-by for 15 years.
Sparky couldn't even get it done but once. Got punked the next year in the P/Os
and was never heard from again. And it was the same team. Talk about lack of hunger.
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P.S. 1 great player doesn't ruin a whole team.

The 87 team was good...best record in MLB. I was at the Friday night game of the season's last series against division-leading Toronto...the Tigers swept em that weekend to get to the ALCS. Alas, they lost to the Twinkies who went on to win the World Series.

That weekend was the last great baseball to be played in Tiger Stadium...which is currently being demolished

http://multimedia.detnews.com/pix/news/2008/072708tigerstadium/2008-0727-ec-tigerstadium0005.jpg

Elizabeth Conley/The Detroit News
The left field was the most recent part to be taken down at Tiger Stadium in Detroit on Sunday, July 27, 2008.


Sad...


News Photo Gallery - Tiger Stadium demolition - The Detroit News Online (http://multimedia.detnews.com/pix/photogalleries/newsgallery/072708tigerstadium/)

The Sports Network - Major League Baseball (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=mlb/news/newstest.aspx?id=4169571)


The window is still open for the Detroit Tigers this season, but if they continue to play the way they've been playing lately, it won't be long before it's shut.


I'd love to believe it, but can't at this point. Now it's the "show me" time. They've been too mediocre for too long.


Pudge's reception to splitting catching duties with Inge wasn't exactly a warm one.


I have to admit, I haven't heard anything on this. I wonder that it is coming out of the national media, not local sources.

I'm going to the game tonight. This is a "must win" game.

I'm going to the game tonight. This is a "must win" game.
Take some pix. And, most of all, enjoy the game. Hopefully Tigers can give you a good show. Although, with Robertson on the mound, I don't know if it's possible.

Take some pix. And, most of all, enjoy the game. Hopefully Tigers can give you a good show. Although, with Robertson on the mound, I don't know if it's possible.

Yeah, Robertson doesn't inspire confidence lately. I'm prepared to be disappointed. I'll try to remember to take a camera so that I can chronicle the last real game of the season.

Yeah, Robertson doesn't inspire confidence lately. I'm prepared to be disappointed. I'll try to remember to take a camera so that I can chronicle the last real game of the season.
By the way, Tay, how was the flight from China?

http://www.pistonsforum.com/detroit-pistons-general-discussion/8869-tayshaun-china.html

WDFN just reported (via Tom Gage in Chicago) that Zumaya is the new closer and that 'Rodney will be moved to another role' :pound:

It's about time!

Screw closer mindset. I want a closer who can strike out the side with the bases loaded.

It's about time!

Screw closer mindset. I want a closer who can strike out the side with the bases loaded.True closers don't load the bases in the first place

True closers don't load the bases in the first place

My fantasy scenario above assumes that the bases were loaded due to the previous pitcher or several errors. Of course true closers never load the bases.

My fantasy scenario above assumes that the bases were loaded due to the previous pitcher or several errors. Of course true closers never load the bases.

Just ask Todd Jones... :stirthepot:

Tied 6-6 going into the 10th. Leyland should be fired whether or not we win this game.

Tied 6-6 going into the 10th. Leyland should be fired whether or not we win this game.
Why should Leyland get fired? He's playing with the deck he was dealt by Dombrowski. They took a gamble and lost, nothing wrong with that.
You don't know what you have until you take that chance.
And Tigers actually go up 8-6 in the 14th on the second homer of the game by Polanco.

Why should Leyland get fired? He's playing with the deck he was dealt by Dombrowski. They took a gamble and lost, nothing wrong with that.
You don't know what you have until you take that chance.
And Tigers actually go up 8-6 in the 14th on the second homer of the game by Polanco.He shoulda pulled Nate after he struggled to get out of the 5th...but no. He pulled Seay mid-inning in the 8th while he was pitching fine and put in Farnsworth who proceeded to give up another homer. Leyland's lost his marbles.

The entire team stinks. New closer gives up 4 runs to lose the game.
I think I should just forget about them for a couple of years.

WDFN just reported (via Tom Gage in Chicago) that Zumaya is the new closer and that 'Rodney will be moved to another role' :pound:
Well he surely closed the game tonight giving up four runs in the 14th after the tigers score two in the top of the 14th...This team is done....Nate gets a 4 run lead in the first and then the relievers give up HR after HR to eventually tie it and then Swisher dooms them in the end.. This time I am really done with them...

Blame this seasons douldrums on the pitching and the manager....

Ugh....

Our relievers are 22 for 42 in save situations this season.

I think the main problem has been identified. Todd Jones is 18 for 21. So, the rest are 4 for 21!

Zach Minor- 0 for 3
Lopez- 0 for 1
Farnsworth- 0 for 2
Seay- 0 for 1
Dolsi- 2 for 2
Rodney- 1 for 5
Zoom- 1 for 4
Grilli- 0 for 1
Cruceta- 0 for 2

20 blown saves?

For comparison, the Yankess have 6 blown saves and Rivera is 26 for 26.

Ha, Ha, Zoom the closer !!! ?
That will last about 3 games.

He shoulda pulled Nate after he struggled to get out of the 5th...but no. He pulled Seay mid-inning in the 8th while he was pitching fine and put in Farnsworth who proceeded to give up another homer. Leyland's lost his marbles.

This has been Leyland's issue the past two seasons..You never know when a pitcher is going to throw the homerun pitch, but knowing when to pull your pitcher and replace with another one is the keys to managing the game and your team being successful. I just have never understood some of his chess moves in the late innings.

Leyland, it's fair to say could not find anyone to save his azz.
Maybe the umps are squeezing our strike zone ?!

Who would've believed that two of the Tiger better performing pitchers in August will be Gallaraga and Miner?

With Seay and Lopez kickin butt in relief.

Seay has appeared in 41 games, pitched 39 innings, and has only allowed 11 runs.


Also, Grilli is having a pretty decent year with Colorado.

Also, Grilli is having a pretty decent year with Colorado.
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How could that be ? And what is "good" for him?

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How could that be ? And what is "good" for him?

I'm not sure how it could be.

But his career ERA is 4.88 and he has been 3.52 in 33 games with Colorado this season. He has struck out 38 batters in 38 innings.

For comparison, Todd Jones has a 5.05 ERA and has struck out 14 in 41 innings for us.

Do we need a new pitching coach ?

http://msn.foxsports.com/fe/img/MLB/Headshots/140x170/8091.jpg
2008 Season
W-L 10-7 >SV 0 >ER 3.12 >K 97
Jair Jurgens

Here's one that got away. Boy we could have used him instead of wasting time and money on Dontreille Willis.

No Tiger pitcher has 10 victories yet, only Zumaya and Seay have an ERA lower than Jurgens and only Verlander has more K's

I thought the guy might be Swedish with a name like that.

http://msn.foxsports.com/fe/img/MLB/Headshots/140x170/8091.jpg
2008 Season
W-L 10-7 >SV 0 >ER 3.12 >K 97
Jair Jurgens

Here's one that got away. Boy we could have used him instead of wasting time and money on Dontreille Willis.

No Tiger pitcher has 10 victories yet, only Zumaya and Seay have an ERA lower than Jurgens and only Verlander has more K's

The PF.com general consensus proved true. Posts from a thread after the trade

ESPN - Tigers fill SS hole, deal for Renteria from Braves - MLB (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3085675)

I don't like giving up Jurrjens, especially since we don't even have a full rotation. Guy showed so much promise. This is really strange from my point of view.
Yeah I hate that we had to give up Jurrjens too, the one bright spot in the pitching rotation during the September swoon. We saw great pitching from the Redsox in the post seaons and only which the Tigers could have been that dominant. That being said, we still got strikeout king at 3B, should we go after the WS MVP Mike Lowell who is now a FA. Cheaper than me-me-me A-Rod. Of course then the BoSox would sign A-Rod
I would wonder what Renteria Tigers got? The guy that was great for the Braves, or the guy who totally flamed out in Boston? Also, we know that most likely Inge is not going anywhere - is virtually untradeable with that contract. Lets hope Tigers sign a veteran pitcher and some outfield help.
Still thinking about this deal. I can't say it was a bad move. I don't know much about the other kid the Braves got, Hernandez.

Whatever happened to getting Jack Wilson? I agree with Mikhail, I'm worried about getting the Renteria that stunk in Beantown.Jurrjens looked damn good before going on the DL. I hope Dombrowski knows what he's doing.It's only a bad deal if Jurrjens turns out to be another John Smoltz (that deal bit us in the %%%%%) and Bonderman turns out to be another ............Bonderman.

I guess, can't win 'm all. Dombrowski took a gamble on this one, and looks like came out on the losing end. He's had his ups and downs. He got Gallarraga. It's a tough world out there, just ask Joe D.
:MusicBigGrin:

Cool pic from last nights game after a rain delay

http://cmsimg.detnews.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=C3&Date=20080809&Category=SPORTS0104&ArtNo=808090442&Ref=AR

Perhaps a good omen...? :)


Cabrera powers Tigers to rout of A's (http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080809/SPORTS0104/808090442/&imw=Y)

Serene

Tigers put Gary Sheffield on waivers:
One day after Detroit Tigers manager Jim Leyland said he was "flabbergasted" by Gary Sheffield's complaints about playing time, Sheffield was among several Tigers placed on waivers by the club Tuesday, according to a major league source.
Teams aren't permitted to comment on the waiver process, so it's possible the timing is coincidental. But there were indications that the Tigers floated Sheffield's name in trade talks before the July 31 trading deadline. So it seems likely that Sheffield's latest remarks have prompted them to see if interest in him may have picked up this month in the wake of a number of injuries to prominent players on several contenders.
link: ESPN - Source: Tigers put disgruntled Sheffield on waivers - MLB (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3532016&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines)

Also:

The Detroit Tigers, who have scrambled all season to find pitching depth, have reached an agreement with free agent pitcher Freddy Garcia.
The Tigers are expected to assign Garcia, who has not pitched in the majors since early in the 2007 season, to a minor league team at some point this month, so he can pitch and perhaps give himself a chance to reach the big leagues this year. "He's a proven big league pitcher at a time in which it's hard to find pitching. He's always pitched well," Tigers president Dave Dombrowski said. "He's healthy now after the surgery. It's just he needs to build up his arm strength. I don't know if there's enough time to do it, but we also figure that we don't have anything to lose to try. He's a guy that we've always liked."
link: ESPN - Garcia, out of majors since early '07, agrees to deal with Tigers; Willis promoted - MLB (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3531795)

I read a story about the Boston Globe interview yesterday. Here's todays freep article

Sheffield, Leyland spar over DH, playing time | Freep.com | Detroit Free Press (http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080812/SPORTS02/808120391/1048&GID=ciLer27BEEkmRkQzIOiuh8j/gj5FhuCHxn6d5UQYXmY%3D)

Sounds like he's soured along with the Tigers season. Even if he goes to a playoff contender he can't be on the playoff roster.

Sheffield is losing his marbles if he thinks he can help a team playing outfield...not to mention his bat pretty much sucks too. He should have been shopped to other teams back in May. Now...who's gonna want a 39 year old with a bad attitude and a bum shoulder that demands playing time beyond his capabilities?

Interesting story this morning by Lynn Henning. He's saying the Tigers will try and cut payroll next season in anticipation of lower season-ticket sales. Also says trading Ordonez is an option.

Tigers will slash payroll in wake of bust (http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080813/OPINION03/808130396/1004/SPORTS)

Interesting story this morning by Lynn Henning. He's saying the Tigers will try and cut payroll next season in anticipation of lower season-ticket sales. Also says trading Ordonez is an option.

Tigers will slash payroll in wake of bust (http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080813/OPINION03/808130396/1004/SPORTS)
They will most likely not contend if they get rid of Maggs. Who will be driving in runs besides Cabrera? On the other hand, he's getting up there in age and maybe this is the best opportunity to get something for him while his production is starting to wind down. Another tough call.

With the way some people think in this forum; we should only hold onto our talent until they reach their peak. We should then trade them because their stock is never higher and we can get the most for them.

This makes no sense to me but it is a recurring thought in a lot of the threads in regards to trades. :nerd2:

Depressing. We tried to be the Yankees and we achieved it.

Illitch did what we all asked him to do. (some of us anyways) He spent the dough (no pun) and got burned. (no pun) He's a crusty (semi-pun) ole guy so he'll survive........Just have to order more pizza's :pizza: :pizza: :pizza: :pizza: :pizza: :pizza: :pizza: :pizza: :pizza: :pizza: :pizza: :pizza: :pizza: :pizza: :pizza: :pizza: :pizza: :pizza: ...

Illitch did what we all asked him to do. (some of us anyways) He spent the dough (no pun) and got burned. (no pun) He's a crusty (semi-pun) ole guy so he'll survive........Just have to order more pizza's :pizza: :pizza: :pizza: :pizza: :pizza: :pizza: :pizza: :pizza: :pizza: :pizza: :pizza: :pizza: :pizza: :pizza: :pizza: :pizza: :pizza: :pizza: ...
The problem is that the dough wasn't spent properly.

Season looks over. We're 9.5 games out of first place. We have more holes on our team than Crispy Creme has in their Doughnuts. Makes you realize that going to the ECF six seasons in a row is something special. These Tigers can't even play .500 ball.

Season looks over. We're 9.5 games out of first place. We have more holes on our team than Crispy Creme has in their Doughnuts. Makes you realize that going to the ECF six seasons in a row is something special. These Tigers can't even play .500 ball.
Good perspective but Joe D still sucks.:nerd2:

Barring a problem with technical issues, baseball will introduce instant replay around Sept. 1, a source told Sporting News on Thursday morning.

Replay discussions involving the commissioner's office, the players' association and umpires union have been taking place for weeks. All sides appear to be in agreement about how replay will be used — only on home run boundary calls -- and how it will be implemented. There will be a so-called war room in New York where a technician will provide video feeds to monitors set up for umpires at all 30 parks.

Report: MLB to begin using replay - Baseball - NBCSports.com (http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/26202971/)

Baseball is so stupid. They just need to get the homers right with Ins/Rep. It's a start I guess.
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I can see slashing dead weight. But not Maggs. Of course none of these guys are worth > $12M per.

Baseball is so stupid. They just need to get the homers right with Ins/Rep. It's a start I guess.
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I can see slashing dead weight. But not Maggs. Of course none of these guys are worth > $12M per.

I think they should trade Ordonez. Without a doubt. Trade him during the offseason while his value his high. He's on the verge of winning another batting title (only 3 points behind Pedroia). Get some relief pitching. The Zumaya/Rodney Plan is not working, obviously. Time to cut bait and do something else. Also, this is Todd Jones' last season. Freddy Dolsi isn't ready although he might be next season. This team needs pitching so bad it hurts.

Kenny Rogers is likely done, too, so that leaves the inconsistent Verlander, injury-prone and mental midget Bonderman, very solid Galarraga, questionable Freddy Garcia (who is coming back from injury), really questionable Dontrelle Willis, Zach Miner, the horrible and overpaid Nate Robertson and the unproven Eddie Bonine. Doesn't exactly have the rest of the A.L. quaking in their cleats.

And Bobby Seay is the only solid relief pitcher they have. And how about that deal for Farnsworth?

From a pitching standpoint, this season has been a disaster. Detroit needs to deal some of their commodities to get some good pitching. If they don't deal Maggs, they should deal Thames. I would say Guillen but they need the left-hand bat. And they should deal Renteria, too, if anybody is willing to take him. But dealing Maggs brings the biggest return.

Can we just trade our pitching staff instead?

I wish they would just stop squeezing our strike zone.
Leyland needs to go psycho on the plate ump every game.

Leyland needs to go psycho on the plate ump every game.

Good point, Thee. Leyland can do less damage from the clubhouse (after he's been thrown out).

Tiger pitchers gave up 16 runs and 22 hits....in one game.

Not that it matters, but the Tigers are now "officially" out of the playoffs with two weeks to go.

It's like the season that never was...

Next year the pitching staff should be ready to go.
I hope they finish above .500

So much potential this season and the only significant injury or ailment was Bondy. Willis was a no show, so can't really count him as an injury because we never really knew what we got or what we loss in him. He was just collecting money for nothing (and chicks for free).

Leyland needs to retire at the end of the season. His leading the tigers to the almost promise land in 2006 and having the fans believe that they could do it in 2007 and 2008 was about as bad as us diehard Pistons fans believing that we could duplicate the 2004 team's championship winning effort in 05, 06, 07, 08 and with skepticism in 09.

The pitching staff needs to be revamped too. JV was horrible and the gambler ran out of dough. The so called two flamethrower arms seemed to have lost their ammo and flamed out early. (Rodney & Zumaya.) Nate should be relegated to long reliever and closer in the mode of F-Rod needs to be recruited as not sure if TJ has it anymore either.

The core isn't dead yet, but I do believe a new manager could shape up things in the batting order, but we still have the ultimate ralley buster Brandon Inge in the battery behind the plate.

Next year the pitching staff should be ready to go.
I hope they finish above .500

i hope so cause this year JV stunk up the joint big time! What the he** is up with Zumaya? every time he comes back he leaves with another injury. I just pray that they'll be ready. And Mr. Willis better be more consisent!

No surprise here

Tigers pitching coach Hernandez out? | The Detroit News | detnews.com (http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080928/SPORTS0104/809280320)

Sox need make up game vs Det, Mon. No intrigue. :[

Freddie Garcia is getting the call though. That is pretty interesting.

yeah he was traded for the guy going tonite - Floyd !

Tons of pressure on Ozzie and the White Sox this afternoon. It would be nice to see Garcia throw a gem against his ex-team and perhaps work his way towards the Tigers starting rotation in 2009.

I can't get myself to root against the Tigers, but it would be cool to have a Cubs-Sox WS in town here. The bar scene will be fantastic.

I can't get myself to root for Ozzie Guillen. That guy is annoying. I wouldn't mind seeing the Cubs make it to the World Series and then losing in Game 7 to keep their streak of misery alive.

There is really nothing about the Sox that I like. And I agree that another Cubs disaster would be the most entertaining outcome for an outsider.

A red line (the el track that goes to both Wrigley and the Cell) series would be fun though.

I hate the Twinks more.

Thank goodness. The season is over. In some ways, the season was worse than 2003. No, in A LOT of ways.

I hate the Twinks more.
I hate the Twinkies too, but at this point I would rather see them beat out the Sox anyway....

I recall those first seven games losses of the season and how Ozzie sneered at the Tigers in the dugout as they laid three of the losses on the preseason favored Tigers.

Todays game basically capsulized this season. The hitters got men in scoring position with no outs and they could only push across one run. Same thing in the 6th inning. In all 8 base runners left on base.
Leyland pulls his starting pitcher, puts in a reliever and the roof caves in.

I don't know why Leyland was asked back.....???? I am telling you all from afar that he should have got on that same train that Kwame, Millen and Flip got on and headed out of town to join Lloyd Carr in the SE/Michigan athletics executives heaven junkyard

I don't know where Leyland went wrong. Surely he can coach. But the players stank.
Our best hitter Maggs was down .045. Everyone else was very eratic.

Leyland needs another year. Our downfall was in the fact that Cabby couldn't handle the hot corner. At that point it become musical chairs for the roster and I don't think anyone got comfortable with their position.

I do like the fact that Inge will take over that position. I expect a Gold Glove from him next year. He needs to spend the summer in the batting cages and stop trying to hit for power but spread the ball around.

Catcher and shortstop become our immediate needs. Move Carlos to DH and let Sheff go. Would like to see us get a little faster and put more pressure on other teams with stolen bases.

Wouldn't mind seeing Polanco and Granderson switch places in the batting order.

Very predictable how Shef got beaned on his first at bat yesterday. My sox fan co-worker told me it was going to happen.

Season over: How the favorites fared

MLB Preseason Rankings | Sports Hubris (http://sportshubris.com/content/mlb-preseason-rankings)

Well there were hopes that with the off season acquisitions, the Tigers would be in the mix in October and the end the end they are just a mixed up team....finishing in last place in their division

Who would have thought that both NY teams would be sitting it out as angry fans in October when the attached preseason poll had them finishing 1st and third with the Bosox sandwiched in between them...um I wonder if EasternSportPN was behind this poll. Our underachieving Tigers were picked to be 4th...

Both Chicago teams and both LA teams are in with the Cubs being ranked as 5th, but the lucky White Sox were picked no better than 19th and surprising Tampa Bay Rays 23rd.

Obviously we can't blame the whole Tiger collapse on Leyland's coaching, but for Ozzie to out hustle the Leyland in coaching, when we had more talent just doesn't cut in my eyes even if Bondy and Willis sat on the shelf for most of the season.

Picked to be 4th and then finishing so LOW is worse than losing the way we did a few years back when we had NO potential..

Picked to be 4th and then finishing so LOW is worse than losing the way we did a few years back when we had NO potential..
:gun1:

Just goes to show you can't predict everything.

Anyone rooting for another team to win it all?

Just goes to show you can't predict everything.

Anyone rooting for another team to win it all?
I was hoping Minni could've made some noise, but they couldn't muster anything against Sox.

Both Chicago teams could be out before the end of next week.

The Angels are one if the few local teams I root for so hopefully they wake up tonight.

Never liked the Dodgers, and don't want to see either Manny or Joe Torre come over here and then win the big one again. I am sure though if the Cubs fall flat again, the ESPNers would love to see Boston and LA in the series to see match the Celtics/Lakers rivalry

This group must make one more run. They have the talent don't they ?????
Other wise see you in 15 years.

This group must make one more run. They have the talent don't they ?????
Other wise see you in 15 years.
The talent? There are too many holes.

Let's look at hitters:

People that will produce are: Granderson, Cabrera, Polanco, Maggs (if he's not traded)
People that look washed up or oft-injured: Sheffield, Renteria, Guillen
Youngsters that we dont' know what to expect from: Ryan, Thomas, Hollimon, Larish, Joyce, Clevlen
Question marks: Hessman, Santiago, Thames, Raburn, Inge

Starting Pitching:
Verlander - hopefully back to the old form next year
Bonderman - ?, maybe a reliable 3-4 starter
Garcia - ??
Willis - ???
Robertson - maybe a 5th starter
Gallarraga - hopefully a solid 2-3
Miner - maybe 4

Relief Pitching:
Rodney - ?
Zumaya - ??
Lopez - ?
Dolsi - hopefully more experienced next year, still very young
Rapada - see Dolsi
Seay - solid


So, weak hitting, no starting pitching, no relief pitching. Hopefully youngsters can step up and contribute.
I'd love to see Hessman get a shot. He does have a lot of power and can produce. Thames never got consistent time, probably not in the future plans. But Joyce and Larish are only a year removed from AA. I don't know. Too many questions. Lets see what (if anything) Dombrowski does during the offseason.

Renteria, Thames and Santiago need one more look. I doubt Rodgers would go to bully.
Bondo, Robertson and maybe Miner are 5s. So we're deep there :]
And the bully is so bad I'd use each for one out then pull. Need all new bully.
If Inge can catch maybe I'd still keep him.

Renteria, Thames and Santiago need one more look. I doubt Rodgers would go to bully.
Bondo, Robertson and maybe Miner are 5s. So we're deep there :]
And the bully is so bad I'd use each for one out then pull. Need all new bully.
If Inge can catch maybe I'd still keep him.
Tigers are high on Dusty Ryan at catcher. He seems to have all the tools and had pretty good couple of weeks at the end of the season.
Rogers should just retire at this point. He can't get anyone out.
They plan to play Inge at 3rd and Guillen in the left field because his body just can't take the infield any more.
They do need some bullpen help, they need a closer, and it wouldn't hurt to sign a #3 or 4 starter.

Zoom is a 102 mph wreck. If he gets hurt again, you gotta let him go.

We need: Closer, Bullpen, Starting Pitcher. This team shouldn't have signed Willis to that three year.

We need: Closer, Bullpen, Starting Pitcher. This team shouldn't have signed Willis to that three year.
Anyone expected that Willis is not going to win a single game this year?