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Darth Tater
04-26-2008, 05:40 PM
Lions are on the board...who will they pick in the first round?
Darth Tater
04-26-2008, 05:51 PM
Lions are on the board...who will they pick in the first round?
And they trade their #1 & #3 to KC for a #1, #3, and #5. I guess everyone they wanted was gone anyhow.
Darth Tater
04-26-2008, 06:03 PM
Gosder Cherilus? WTF? He wasn't supposed to go this high.
OLD SKOOL HQ
04-26-2008, 06:24 PM
Who the Hell is Godsend Cheevious!??? Typical of Lions: ESPN didnt even show it live..They were in a commercial and rewound iit back. :pound::pound:
This is my last serious post ever on this thread. How can I take serious a team that thinks ITS a joke!??
Darth Tater
04-26-2008, 06:29 PM
Who the Hell is Godsend Cheevious!??? Typical of Lions: ESPN didnt even show it live..They were in a commercial and rewound iit back. :pound::pound:
This is my last serious post ever on this thread. How can I take serious a team that thinks ITS a joke!??
Hey, please don't shoot :makmiday:the messenger thread! :MusicBigGrin:
jammertime
04-26-2008, 06:35 PM
Gosder Cherilus? WTF? He wasn't supposed to go this high.
All I can say is WOW. That was a reach.
OLD SKOOL HQ
04-26-2008, 06:44 PM
Hey, please don't shoot :makmiday:the messenger thread! :MusicBigGrin:
:pound::pound:I just said that for entertainment purposes only...just like Millen..
ggazoo69
04-26-2008, 07:36 PM
Hey, at least they drafted offensive line. And not a receiver.
CloudWalker
04-27-2008, 12:38 PM
Well this draft is officially in the toilet.
With the 64th pick in the draft the Lions select Silent Bob.
http://www.toxicshock.tv/news/wp-content/uploads/kevin_smith_horror_pic.jpg
ggazoo69
04-27-2008, 01:17 PM
Seems like a lot of guys they have drafted are undersized, except their first rounder. No superstars in this bunch, but you don't necessarily need that. The Lions need guys that don't get injured two games into the season.
I'm going to hold off on analyzing this bunch until I see them wearing the Hawaiian blue and performing on the field.
congoman
04-27-2008, 05:34 PM
I like what the Lions are doing. They are not taking the obvious guys with big reps but taking the mean and nasty alternative. I think this will prove to be a much more productive approach. The draft is a crap-shoot under the best of conditions. Who is to say this approach isn't right?:bump2:
BillLaimbeer
04-27-2008, 06:11 PM
I like what the Lions are doing. They are not taking the obvious guys with big reps but taking the mean and nasty alternative. I think this will prove to be a much more productive approach. The draft is a crap-shoot under the best of conditions. Who is to say this approach isn't right?:bump2:
You could be right, congoman. The Lions got rid of some "star" players in the off-season. They are trying to create more of a team atmosphere and a tough work ethic, in the mold of Coach Marinelli. It sounds good, but this, of course, the Lions....we'll see what happens.
jammertime
04-27-2008, 07:47 PM
I actually like the Lions' overall draft. I do think they reached a bit with their first 2 picks though.
The draft just didn't fall the Lions' way this year. All of the guys they targeted were gone before they picked in the first 2 rounds. I think they did ok with what they had to work with. I would have liked to see them move down a bit more in the first round though, but with the way that the OTs were flying off the board (3 in the first 14 picks), I guess they wanted to make sure they got their man. (A bit surprised Otah fell as much as he did).
In the 3rd round, they moved up to the first pick in the round to ensure that they were able to grab one of the RBs that they had targeted. From what I've read (http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2008/04/stewart_mendenhall_were_not_re.html), they decided to pass on Mendenhall because they felt that they could get a really solid back in the 3rd round. With RBs going 22, 23, 24 in the first round and then Rice and Forte going in the 2nd, the only back left that they liked was Kevin Smith. They moved up to #1 in the 3rd to ensure that they got him.
Apparently, Smith really wanted to be a Lion (:pound::pound::pound:). No seriously. Read this. (http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2008/04/heres_why_the_lions_moved_up.html)
jammertime
04-27-2008, 08:23 PM
See, I told you he wanted to play for the Lions! :MusicBigGrin:
Front page of espn.com: ESPN - Lions pick RB Smith with first pick of third round - NFL (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft08/news/story?id=3370469)
"I never thought of myself as chasing Barry Sanders. He's a legend," Smith said. "My numbers might have been close, but I was just thrilled to be close to someone like that. Now I get to play in the same organization, which is a dream come true."
And enough to make a guy weep.
"The coach told me that they were going to come up to get me, and he put me on the phone with all the coaches, and I just burst into tears," Smith admitted.
Of course, Barry set the record in 2 fewer games and with 50-100 less carries than Smith had, but still, quite an impressive accomplishment for the new Lion.
jammertime
04-27-2008, 08:29 PM
Granted, other teams are usually pretty happy with Matt Millen's draft picks, but this time, it's for a good reason.
Lions save the day for final pick of Army safety Campbell - Detroit Lions: News, Blogs, Photos, Audio, Schedule & Stats - MLive.com (http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2008/04/lions_save_the_day_with_final.html)
But the biggest applause was for Campbell. ESPN reported all day on Campbell because the 6-foot-2, 230 pounder would be spared having to serve in Iraq if he made a NFL roster. Halfway through the final round, he got the call from the Lions. The entire draft crowd erupted, jerseys from every NFL team represented.
A bit more here (http://myespn.go.com/blogs/hashmarks/0-6-405/Touching-scene.html) as well.
When the Lions selected Army safety Caleb Campbell in the seventh round Sunday, the crowd at Radio City Music City Hall erupted into a "U-S-A" chant.
For all the criticism that Millen has taken, he should be praised for this pick.
I am going to analyze this bunch based on Millen's prior performance. They are undersized projects who will not make an impact for this coming season, except maybe one will be a starter this season. I think we're looking at a 4-12 season...
TheeTFD
04-28-2008, 03:20 PM
Poor C.Campbell if doesn't make the team or Practice squad he's off to the burning sands. From IEDs
TheeTFD
04-28-2008, 03:58 PM
Detroit Lions (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/det/;_ylt=AhquKECKxEK9_mgprgylEgwyNbgF)
Picks: OL Gosder Cherilus, LB Jordon Dizon, RB Kevin Smith, DL Andre Fluellen, DL Cliff Avril, WR Kenneth Moore, FB Jerome Felton, DL Landon Cohen, DB Caleb Campbell
Positives: Dizon, Smith
Negatives: Missing on first-round targets and reaching for Cherilus.
Bottom line: D. Detroit addressed most needs but missed out on its three targeted players in the first round – Derrick Harvey, Jonathan Stewart and Jerod Mayo – then traded back to No. 17 and still reached for Cherilus. Dizon is smallish but consistent. Moving up for Smith in the third round was intriguing. He could be a good value there, but it’s a concern that he rarely had a dominating yards-per-carry average against quality competition. Other than Cherilus, it’s hard to see a lot of room to grow in this class.
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We get the lowest NFC grade. D
b-diddy
04-28-2008, 06:27 PM
ill settle on a bad grade. seems to me the 'experts' usually grade the lions high on getting great value for the picks... we know how that worked out.
i cant speak on the value of our picks, but i atleast like the idea. meat and potatos. im sure we probably could have done better (seems pretty unanmous that we would have been better off with albert or otah than cherilus- i have no idea), but building through the draft this way is the first steps on the long road back to mediocrity. maybe not next year, but i do believe we have a 500 season in our future.
BillLaimbeer
04-28-2008, 09:59 PM
Good stuff, B-Diddy. I can tell you've got a good feel for the Lions organization.
ill settle on a bad grade. seems to me the 'experts' usually grade the lions high on getting great value for the picks... we know how that worked out.
i cant speak on the value of our picks, but i atleast like the idea. meat and potatos. im sure we probably could have done better (seems pretty unanmous that we would have been better off with albert or otah than cherilus- i have no idea), but building through the draft this way is the first steps on the long road back to mediocrity. maybe not next year, but i do believe we have a 500 season in our future.
These lines are very sad. To think that we're hoping for "the long road back to mediocrity". You really do understand the Lions.......
Ozarkruffrider
04-29-2008, 01:25 PM
Gave Hondo his own topic, But these clowns on BSPN, Yahoo, and other idiots are about as clueless as a crackhead.
TheeTFD
04-29-2008, 01:36 PM
G.Cherilus was about 7th best Olinemen. But he has a mean streak, and good size.
Darth Tater
04-29-2008, 02:09 PM
Can we kill this thread? I like Ozark's new thread better...
tdfast
05-20-2008, 09:36 AM
Took a T in the 1st. Maybe would have been better taking Joe Thomas last year rather than yet another WR..... Guess we'll never know.
ggazoo69
05-20-2008, 10:38 AM
Gave Hondo his own topic, But these clowns on BSPN, Yahoo, and other idiots are about as clueless as a crackhead.
Crackheads can be cunning, however, when it comes to finding more "product"
TaShawn
08-06-2008, 01:09 PM
ESPN - ESPN The Magazine (http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3520706&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos1)
So the tiny town of Perryton, Texas, threw Campbell a big party in the church basement the day before he left for training camp since, not only was he the first local kid to go to West Point, he was the first one ever drafted. Campbell flew to Detroit and got his jersey (number 47, in honor of All-Pro safety John Lynch) and a locker with his nameplate on it and his playbook. And in mid-July he got a room at a Dearborn Marriott, just like all the other rookies, and stayed up wondering what it was all going to be like.
And then, the day before camp began, Lions GM Matt Millen called Campbell and his playbook into his office and told him it was all over. The Army was rescinding the policy. Campbell had to report immediately.
Turns out the Army had no business having such a policy. Turns out the Department of Defense insists any service academy athlete who's drafted serve at least two years immediately after graduation, skills or no skills. And those two years can't be at Ford Field. Turns out that when the Navy and Air Force heard that Campbell was getting a special deal, they freaked. Navy's athletic director even called it a "significant" recruiting handicap. Funny, since it was the Navy that allowed former Midshipman Napoleon McCallum to play his rookie year with the LA Raiders while stationed at a Long Beach naval base.
First, he cried, but then he bucked up. He didn't sue or punch a wall or ask questions you or I would've asked such as, "The Army revised the policy on July 8. Why did it take until July 23, the night before camp started, to tell me?" Or, "Why can't I be grandfathered in, the way Army baseball players Nick Hill and Milan Dinga are being allowed to finish their season in the minor leagues?"
All Campbell did was throw his shoulders back and say, "I went to the academy to be a soldier."
But here's what stinks. Campbell did go to West Point to lead men into battle, but then he found out he was good enough to play on Sundays. At the end of his sophomore season, he could've transferred out, without penalty, to a big-time football college like Oklahoma or Michigan. But then head coach Bobby Ross told him about the Army's best-of-both-world's policy. Campbell stayed.
Bobby Ross!!?? Talk about a raw deal.
At least he sounds like he is a stand up guy and will make the best out of the situation.
TheeTFD
08-06-2008, 01:56 PM
F''':sssh::yellowprison:
TaShawn
08-06-2008, 02:07 PM
Is there any loophole where the Army can take Millen?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/71/Keepmillen.JPG
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