Pistons/Sixers 1st Round Game 6, May 1st, 8:00 PM

TV 20 Detroit HD, TNT

Game six moves to Philly with a 3-2 Pistons advantage. Can the Pistons end this in six and unleash some kryptonite in the 2nd round? Or, can the 76ers extend the series to seven games?

I predict a narrow victory.

I predict a narrow victory.


....for which team?

Pistons will close this series out. I think they learnt their lesson.

Pistons will close this series out. I think they learnt their lesson.
They better if they want to get somewhere in these playoffs.

If Spellcheck plays again - Pistons win.

Logic says Pistons should close this series, with the starters resting in the forth quarter. LOGIC.. Celtics are suffering against atlanta... where is the Logic?

Spellcheck was Awesome yesterday. He earned himself playing time for the rest of the play offs. At least he better have ; Flip!!

He is just so steady and isn't going to make a huge mistake.

This series should end in Philly. Gaame will be stressful on the faithful fan. Pistons in 6....It'll just seem longer...:):)

I'll stay with my original prediction: Each team will steal a win away from home and the Piston's win the seventh game.

If Spellcheck plays again - Pistons win.

Thats it right there. He needs to play for at least 5 seconds. I doubt Flip will risk it and try to play him any less than that.

This series has caused much doubt. The Pistons need to close it out tomorrow night.

Hello everyone.'

Can someone please help a sista out. Can ANYONE give me the link to pistons chat before the next game.

Either I am losing it or have totaly lost it, but I cannot for the life of me find the regular link under quick links anymore.

I want to join you guys tonight live. PLEASE help me out.


Thanks

It will be posted to this thread. It is always, every single game, posted to the relevant game thread.

There will be no link under quicklinks. Probably not until next season. We changed the chat system, and it doesn't have the same level of integration as it did in the past.

Thats it right there. He needs to play for at least 5 seconds. I doubt Flip will risk it and try to play him any less than that.

Right. In order to make an impact, it has to be five.

Right. In order to make an impact, it has to be five.

Yeah, I think it IS a five-second minimum.

...lee would know this for sure.

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Lurker: maybe you can add: It is much, much cooler to be hero in 7th game - everyone will remember that! - and I want to be that one!

Lurker - very funny, but I really hope you're wrong!

After seeing 6 consecutive quarters of effort, I'm starting to feel like they've got their foot full on the gas, so to speak. I think this series is over tonight.

9.0 DR - their house
Ps 95
6s 92

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Classic.

As always AA=Win. Let's see how Flip's math is.

edited to add;
I think it's gotta be more than 5 seconds. 5 min is the minimum ppl!

AA > Jarvis. We can win or lose either way. However, I'll take my chances with a bench player who can play D and scores unselfishly in the flow of the offense over a streaky one-dimensional 3-point shooter.

I don't dislike Jarvis, I just think we have 2 better options at that spot. If we can go small, the AA is the answer. If we have to go big, then Walter should get the minutes.

AA > Jarvis. We can win or lose either way. However, I'll take my chances with a bench player who can play D and scores unselfishly in the flow of the offense over a streaky one-dimensional 3-point shooter.

I don't dislike Jarvis, I just think we have 2 better options at that spot. If we can go small, the AA is the answer. If we have to go big, then Walter should get the minutes.

Don't forget option #3 or you'll have the Amir Johnson HOF club on your azz!

Don't forget option #3 or you'll have the Amir Johnson HOF club on your azz!

With Amir, I don't think it matters what position you tell him to play. He's going to be hanging around the paint and playing like Rodman anyways.

I can see where a coach would be nervous to put in Jarvis, Walter, Stuckey, Juan, etc. But it seems to me that putting in AA or Amir is a pretty safe move. The reason is that they almost always deliver with defense and hustle. If they are missing shots, they aren't going to keep shooting them. Also, they avoid turnovers.

I am the first to admit that Jarvis has not been what I and everyone else expected since he arrived here.

He is a scorer, a shooter and nothing else. All teams have one, and some of the Pistons players have said that Jarvis is the best pure shooter on the team.

The seaosn is not over yet and don`t be surprised if he finds his stroke and wins us a game or two in this post season, or should I say help us to a win.

Tonight would be a good time to win one!!!!

Like I said, I don't hate the guy. He shoots a pretty good percentage for a bench player.

I just think his style is better for the regular season when he's a primary scoring option on the bench unit and AA brings more to the table with other starters on the floor. The rotations we are using call for a role player like AA b/c I'd rather have Rip looking for his shot than Jarvis.

I'll be the first to cheer him on when he goes 4-5 from deep tonight. But so far, he hasn't done much with his minutes.

a quick question, is the game delayed?

a quick question, is the game delayed?It's 8pm EDT

Has Hayes been a dissapointment? Kind of but one has to consider that he was a min contract player, you get what you pay for. I did expect at least more consistant scoring from him.

What do the Pistons have to do to win?

1) Contain Dalembert and Evans. Sheed, Maxiel and Dyess should be able to do this. If those guys have a big night then someone is not doing their job.

2) Take care of the ball and crash the boards. Pistons do not need to give away a lot of 2nd chance opportunities tonight, thats a good way to lose the game.

3) Stay on Iggie ( can't spell his name ). Prince has been huge here because we don't have to double team.


I still feel that as long as the Pistons play hard defense and rebound that they can still get a win even if the shooting is off.

Pistons by 10.

Has Hayes been a dissapointment? Kind of but one has to consider that he was a min contract player, you get what you pay for. I did expect at least more consistant scoring from him.

I'm disappointed in him.
...not even "kind of", I'm REALLY disappointed in him.

I too am disappointed in Jarvis, I agree Dlev, he may find his stroke somewhere during this playoff run. Jarvis is a streaky shooter, but when he shoots well he is dead eye dangerous.

Juan Dixon on the other hand needs to play and I feel that he will be utilized in the next series if and when we meet Boston. It would be a more favorable matchup for Juan because wheny orlando play their short guards, he will see some floor time.

CHAT IS OPEN!!!!

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That banned thing (See above post)makes me laugh every time. I'm just hoping that one day it appears above Slippy's name.:MusicBigGrin:



Kudos to the Pistons.

ONE ELIMINATION DOWN TONIGHT, ONE TO GO!

Great way to close out the series. The starters came out clicking and went up 10-0, and there was no turning back. CB and Rip combined for 17-25 and 44 points...Rip was +33 for the game, and CB was +37! The bench struggled at the beginning of the 2nd quarter, but things turned back around with a lineup of CB, Rip, Stuckey, Dice, and Sheed. The starters pushed things out again in the 3rd quarter to make it a complete blowout with a meaningless 4th quarter.

Things were looking pretty bleak at halftime of Game 4, but the Pistons absolutely dominated ever since then. The bad start to the series was irritating, but there certainly wasn't much to complain about ever since "the switch" flipped back on.

That was the perfect game 6. Everything clicked plus the bench got in for the 4th. It was the equivalent of a practice, getting them ready for the next series.

Its good that we only have 1 day off, keep the momentum going.

meanwhile red wings has eliminated avs in 1st Q: they lead 3-1. 1st goal for samuelsson - he shoots puck just to by time for changing and it goes in...
two goals were 2 on 1s from neutral zone turnovers and Theodore had absolutely zero chance. (Holmström and Franzen)

oh, back to topic.

Bump up.

Only game in the NBA tonight..everyone saw us on display. Hopefully we didn't show all of our weapons:sssh:. We were out of the gate big in the last two games and never looked back.

Nice shooting the last two games and we only averaged 99 points. Prince was series MVP, but Rip and Cb really turned up their games the last two games. Sheed took the night off, but we didn't need him. Dice had nose and mask problems and the rest of the bech did what they had to do to maintain the lead including Amir's 5-5 shooting and six boards

I think we averaged over 15 turnovers this series and need to take better care of the ball vs the Magic and protect the 3 pt arc.


Good season for the sixers, but it's time for them to go :fish2::fishing:

Stuckey hit a three. Wow.

Nice way to wrap up the series. Bring on the Orlando. This is going to be interesting. Of course, Barkley already with an opinion that Pistons would have to double Howard.

GET THAT BIG RED X UP THERE!!:hoops:

Nice way to wrap up the series. Bring on the Orlando. This is going to be interesting. Of course, Barkley already with an opinion that Pistons would have to double Howard.

i doubt this happens. Maybe another player staying a little closer, and a few double teams, but not on a majority of possessions. That would absolutely kill us and is completely uneccessary.

Smooth win. Glad I was wrong about DR and score. Just a lot of soft touches and net ticking by the Ps. 6ers couldn't throw it in the ocean. Even when they got close to the hoop - nothing.
Amir has a gruesome baby hook. But he didn't miss.
Maxi was in the right place all nite long.

Man. 2nd night this week that we get the Detroit sweep. Pistons over Philly. Wings over Colorado. And the Tigers finish off the Yankees.

Enjoying it.

Nice stress free Pistons game with 15 minutes or so of pure unadulterated garbage time.

That would be Zoo Time.

Close for four games, no contest the last two. Richard Hamilton (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3330/;_ylt=ApoKXRd0C9EQ5d11HQfg2DOLvLYF) hit his first five shots during Detroit’s overpowering start, and the Pistons rolled into the second round of the playoffs by crushing the Philadelphia 76ers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/phi/;_ylt=Ajlxn4gh1GhFKD2BlxNsR1iLvLYF) 100-77 on Thursday night to win the series 4-2.



Pistons crush 76ers in Game 6 to reach second round - NBA - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/recap;_ylt=AqakmxNZwK6_pQ66jB6wNj45nYcB?gid=200805 0120&prov=ap)

It will be posted to this thread. It is always, every single game, posted to the relevant game thread.

There will be no link under quicklinks. Probably not until next season. We changed the chat system, and it doesn't have the same level of integration as it did in the past.

A quick question...how is the frenzy Flip haters during chat?

Detroit wins the series 4-2. Orlando next, Saturday evening. I am taking my daughter to that one. Note, she has been to a playoff game where the Pistons lost, but the Pistons have never lost a series when she went to a game in that series. So I can pretty much guarantee Orlando is done already. (PS, she is 20-0, seeing 20 wins in 20 regular season games attended.)

We continued to use an 8 man rotation, though Afflalo only played about 4 minutes in the first half.

Dyess did spell Sheed and then Max, and he hit a shot, but really, him being out there probably did us no good. The mask was bothering him something terrible. At one point, it fell off and he tossed it to the sidelines. Worse, he took a charge with the mask off before getting pulled. We most likely are going to need Dyess next series to help guard Howard. This was a very bad risk to take. Dyess is in the same boat Rip is in. The next broken nose means major surgery and a long layoff from it.

Rip started out 5 for 5. Billups heated up. The two scored a ton while missing very few shots. Tay was scoring too while Sheed chipped in with a pair of triples. But defense won this game as much as anything. Jason Maxiell was awesome in that department. Jason has extremely active feet, a long reach, and kind of like Ben Wallace, shows up everywhere, one defensive play after another.

Stuckey hit two or three outside shots, some free throws. Not much driving in to the basket.

The 4th was garbage time. Hayes hit a pair of threes, but then let others shoot. Us fans got to watch Amir put in 10 points in his 11 minutes. This included a couple of post moves with him going to the middle and smoothly putting in the half hook.

This game was over early, with us going up 10-0 to start the game, and then getting up 20 before not too long. Our lead stopped growing as soon as Dyess came into the game, but it held as Dyess spelled our two bigs. The 3rd was pretty much like the first, great D, and plenty of scoring options clicking. The lead got to 30 plus.

Can't think of much else to say. Even for me, this one was a snoozer, in every sense of the word. I did manage to stay awake thru the whole game, but just barely toward the end.

GO PISTONS!!!!!

If I remember correctly AI's teams could only go 5 games with us.

Not to be too critical after a blowout like that, but I would have called a timeout as soon as Dice lost his mask.

The guy had just been knocked in the face about a minute prior and was in obvious discomfort, he had surgery on his nose a few days ago, the game was an absolute blowout at the time and the Pistons had the ball.

There is no way I would have chanced getting him injured at that point. I'd have called a timeout and gotten him the heck out of there.

I know that it's a minor thing, but IMO, that just shows how poor Flip's in-game management is.

Not to be too critical after a blowout like that, but I would have called a timeout as soon as Dice lost his mask.

The guy had just been knocked in the face about a minute prior and was in obvious discomfort, he had surgery on his nose a few days ago, the game was an absolute blowout at the time and the Pistons had the ball.

There is no way I would have chanced getting him injured at that point. I'd have called a timeout and gotten him the heck out of there.

I know that it's a minor thing, but IMO, that just shows how poor Flip's in-game management is.

I was pissed a couple games ago when Tay caught one in his throat or collar bone and the boob left him in the game too.

Flip is very consistent (oh, maybe I should save this for the positive thread).

It was kind of strange and I was also calling for Flip to take Dyess out at that point. Oh well, I guess it all worked out OK.

Great win, but a few things I noticed...

- I really don't like how Rip and Tayshaun play when Chauncey isn't on the floor. Especially Rip. If this team wants to have success in the later rounds of the playoffs, they can't have Rip trying to be the man as soon as Chauncey hits the bench. In this game he had 3 straight turnovers as soon as Chauncey went out, and single handedly gave Philly some life. Tayshaun is guilty as well, as he seems reluctant to keep the ball moving when it gets to him. From the outside looking in, some people will say the "inexperienced bench" came into the game, and let the game get out of control, but that couldn't be further from the truth IMO. Rasheed is really the only guy that plays within himself when he's in the game with the bench.

- The whole situation with Dice in the 3rd quarter was driving me crazy. When it is obvious he shouldn't be on the floor, I don't see why Flip keeps him out there. He got whacked in his face, couldn't see. The mask kept falling off, and he made about 5 bad plays in a row. In a blowout, I don't see why you keep him out there for any reason.

Rasheed is really the only guy that plays within himself when he's in the game with the bench.

Which is exactly why the 2nd unit looks so great with him.

Anybody catch this article?

Hayes battles bench blues (http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080502/SPORTS0102/805020393/1004)

Hayes battles bench blues


Hayes' most deflating moment came in Game 5. He was summoned by coach Flip Saunders, as usual, in the second quarter. But before he got into the game, Saunders called him back, deciding to use rookie Arron Afflalo instead.

"I just thought we needed a defensive presence at that time," Saunders said. "And Arron did a great job on (Andre) Iguodala."

When asked if he understood why Saunders used Afflalo and not him in that situation, Hayes said, "No. There was no understanding. That was never made aware to me. It's just if we had a little communication, it would have been a lot easier to understand. But I am hanging with it right now. We're winning, and winning makes it a whole lot easier."


I personally am not thrilled with him as a player, but i feel sorta bad for him the way it went down.

Anybody catch this article?

Hayes battles bench blues (http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080502/SPORTS0102/805020393/1004)

Hayes battles bench blues



I personally am not thrilled with him as a player, but i feel sorta bad for him the way it went down.
I don't. He has been playing on borrowed minutes almost all year. Flip finally gets it right by going with Arron, who actually brings something to the table on a consistent basis. AA is the guy that should get the sympathy for getting looked over all year for the guy who gets hot behind the arc once a month.

A quick question...how is the frenzy Flip haters during chat?
Lately it's been a pretty positive and veteran crowd.

So I'd say it hasn't been approaching frenzy level.

Dumars4Ever runs a tight ship. :)

Great win for Pistons. Glad they closed it out. Nice to see the starters get a chance to cool their heels in the 4th while the youngsters got their burn. Kudos, to the 76'ers and Coach Cheeks for maximizing their potential and pushing the series this far. Once the Pistons figured them out and got into the playoff rhythm it was like seeing a professional team against a JV team. No disrespect to the 76'ers, but it was clear that the Pistons talent and ability level was much superior once the Stones got on a roll. Hope for a more consistent performance against the Magic.

Here's a fun quote (http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-32-145/Liveblogging-Sixers-vs--Pistons-Game-6.html) from Thaddeus Young about JMax, from just before the game, interviewed by ESPN's blogger Henry Abbott:


"He's a banger. He likes to rebound. As far as trying to box out -- he's harder [than McDyess]. He's crazy. He's like crazy crazy. He's good crazy, though. He's not trying to hurt you. He's competitive, like we are. He wants to win."

Great win, but a few things I noticed...

- I really don't like how Rip and Tayshaun play when Chauncey isn't on the floor. Especially Rip. If this team wants to have success in the later rounds of the playoffs, they can't have Rip trying to be the man as soon as Chauncey hits the bench. In this game he had 3 straight turnovers as soon as Chauncey went out, and single handedly gave Philly some life. Tayshaun is guilty as well, as he seems reluctant to keep the ball moving when it gets to him. From the outside looking in, some people will say the "inexperienced bench" came into the game, and let the game get out of control, but that couldn't be further from the truth IMO. Rasheed is really the only guy that plays within himself when he's in the game with the bench.

- The whole situation with Dice in the 3rd quarter was driving me crazy. When it is obvious he shouldn't be on the floor, I don't see why Flip keeps him out there. He got whacked in his face, couldn't see. The mask kept falling off, and he made about 5 bad plays in a row. In a blowout, I don't see why you keep him out there for any reason.
I agree. Rip has been the most turnover prone Piston in the playoffs by a wide margin. He shouldn't be handling the ball or trying to score by himself. He shold just stick to what he's great at - shooting the midrange jumper coming off the screens.

Anybody catch this article?

Hayes battles bench blues (http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080502/SPORTS0102/805020393/1004)

Hayes battles bench blues



I personally am not thrilled with him as a player, but i feel sorta bad for him the way it went down.

I don't feel bad for Arvis at all!
It's not like Flip hasn't given him a chance.
More than ANY player on the team, Arvis has been spoon-fed minutes all year long. Flip should have benched Hayes way back in mid-December!

I don't feel bad for Arvis at all!
It's not like Flip hasn't given him a chance.
More than ANY player on the team, Arvis has been spoon-fed minutes all year long. Flip should have benched Hayes way back in mid-December!

I agree. Suck it up Arvis and quit complaining. You (for some reason) were the beneficiary of many unearned minutes during the season.

The chickens....have come home....to roost!

I think he is more then warrented in his complaints.... his complaints arn't about playing time but in the lack of communication from flip to him.

Flip needs to say sorry but your lack of defense in this matchup makes you more a liabilty then we want to take.

Do I feel bad he's not playing, nope not one bit.... he has looked even worse in his brief time in the playoffs then he did in the regular season, and its the right place for him to be.. on the bench..... BUT, Flip needs to let the players know what the game plan is and what there going to be doing in general terms...

In some series were going to need his gun slinging off the bench, just this series he was not needed for 1 sec. thats what a bench is for to fill in a missing link in the playoffs, and it changes from series to series.

In other words, Flip needs to respect Jarvis as a man even though he's not respecting him as a player. By avoiding conflict through lack of communication, it only creates bad feelings.

I concur with some of the statements about Rip as well. Two games ago Stuckey got yanked because the team was struggling without Chauncey. Nevertheless, it was because Tay and Rip kept demanding the ball and trying to break their man off the dribble. Not only does it not work, it looks ridiculous. Like at the end of the half last game with Rip getting the O-foul. He clearly has no move and had to use is off arm to push off the defender. So blatant. Come on Rip understand your game.

Every once in a while Rip gets through traffic and finishes nicely at the rim in the half court set.

Those are what keep him coming back for more.

Here's a fun quote (http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-32-145/Liveblogging-Sixers-vs--Pistons-Game-6.html) from Thaddeus Young about JMax, from just before the game, interviewed by ESPN's blogger Henry Abbott:

yeah i read that too - awesome.

i hardly watched the game, they were way up early and the outcome was never in doubt.

In other words, Flip needs to respect Jarvis as a man even though he's not respecting him as a player. By avoiding conflict through lack of communication, it only creates bad feelings.

Flip seems to take this send-some-guys-to-the-scorer's-table-and then-call-them-back thing to an art form. Maybe it's how he keeps the bench players warm.

P.S. Great game!

I think he is more then warrented in his complaints.... his complaints arn't about playing time but in the lack of communication from flip to him.

Flip needs to say sorry but your lack of defense in this matchup makes you more a liabilty then we want to take.

Do I feel bad he's not playing, nope not one bit.... he has looked even worse in his brief time in the playoffs then he did in the regular season, and its the right place for him to be.. on the bench..... BUT, Flip needs to let the players know what the game plan is and what there going to be doing in general terms...

In some series were going to need his gun slinging off the bench, just this series he was not needed for 1 sec. thats what a bench is for to fill in a missing link in the playoffs, and it changes from series to series.

That's essentially what i feel bad about. Not that he's not playing b/c AA has LONG deserved those min, but the fact that he seems to be in the dark, and there's no communication. It's been a similar thing said by many players during the Flip era, notably Ben Wallace, his inabilty to relate/communicate. I agree with this post completely.