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i wonder how that will be determined.

RealGM: Wiretap Archives: NBA To Implement Fines For Flopping Next Season (http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/52741/20080529/nba_to_implement_fines_for_flopping_next_season/)

i wonder how that will be determined.
We're screwed. Trade Billups. :gun1:

This is just another money grab. I wouldn't be surprised to see the players union fight it. If they can.

There will be six judges courtside who will hold up cards rating the flops by the players. They will score on the Olympic based 6.0 point system. Then they will add to the score the "player" factor multiplier. Players like Kobe who are vital to the ratings of the NBA will pay a small fine. Players who are entertaining to watch like "Sideshow Bob" will also pay a small fine. Players from San Antonio and Detroit will have multipliers which cause large fines to kick in....

Fines won't matter to the players in isolation. I think there were always fines for technicals, but Rasheed didn't drop from over 40 techs in a season to under 20 just because of fines. You have to suspend players who rack up flopping violations in order for it to have any chance of making a difference.

I know with that Olympic scoring system LeBron will have trouble. His flops have bad timing. He gets touched and then it takes him about two seconds to start jerking and spasming....he needs to clean that up for next year.

Steady floppin is a way of life.

I'd also like to see officials get fined for phantom fouls. Why would they make a call if they didn't see it? $50 cash on the spot for every missed call. If the crowd, both teams, and the television audience are all there to witness the cash exchange, it will really motivate the refs to call what they see, not what they surmise.

From that. Have to say that I agree. It will clean a lot of things up and make it a lot easier for the refs to do their jobs. For as much as people knock them they should be given a chance to improve things if they can.

- think Verajio


Detroit's Rasheed Wallace (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3006), a player who has 15 technicals this season and has been suspended in the past for being over the limit for technicals, gave his opinion of floppers to ESPN after the Pistons' 106-102 loss to the Boston Celtics (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=bos) in Game 5 of the Eastern Conference finals on Wednesday.

"All that bull(bleep)-ass calls they had out there. With Mike [Callahan] and Kenny [Mauer] -- you've all seen that (bleep)," Wallace said. "You saw them calls. The cats are flopping all over the floor and they're calling that (bleep). That (bleep) ain't basketball out there. It's all (bleeping) entertainment. You all should know that (bleep). It's all (bleeping) entertainment."

Good thing Varejao got that nice new contract. He'll need the extra money. Are fines tax deductible? :stirthepot:


EDIT: Hey Max, great minds think alike. I just saw your post after submitting mine.

poor sasha vujahagachic :MusicBigGrin:

At first, the NBA said they would not fine flopping. Then they changed their minds. I guess they need to fine themselves for flopping.

At first, the NBA said they would not fine flopping. Then they changed their minds. I guess they need to fine themselves for flopping.

:MusicBigGrin:

Cassell should retire before he goes bankrupt.

It's not going to work. How do you define a flop? Sheed is going to get fined next year again for criticizing the NBA. Book it.

I agree it's so subjective. Is this like superstar calls? Is a LBJ flop the same as other flops? Are flops against Sheed ok?

Nice in theory, don't think it will work in practice.

This doesn't get called by the refs, but is based on in-arena observers and film review. I suspect there will be some clear cases where the replay shows light between the flopper and the other player. It will be tough, but as long as the fines are sufficient I'd say this has a good chance of acting as a deterent.

This doesn't get called by the refs, but is based on in-arena observers and film review. I suspect there will be some clear cases where the replay shows light between the flopper and the other player. It will be tough, but as long as the fines are sufficient I'd say this has a good chance of acting as a deterent.

You mean to tell me that they don't have any idea prior to this who might be flopping? For all the review the refs supposedly go through, they never seem to catch the floppers. The sad reality is that you can't win in the NBA anymore without flopping.

I would bet that there will be a few light fines at the beginning of the year and then it will fade away.

I'll take a try at a prediction.

The new no flopping rule will lead to offensive players throwing themselves into even more contact. By mid-December, 4 or 5 stars will be out with self-inflicted injuries, and the league will be quietly advising refs and the observers to allow a little more defensive aggression.

David Stern will continue to wear the NBA Dunce Cap for the 3rd straight season, and in a ninja-commando type assault, Mark Cuban and the new school NBA owners will engineer a coup at the New York HQ.

Stu Jackson will be badly injured, trying to defend his master, Darth FixaGame aka Emperor Stern.

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/306/500467078f1b59b9709oa46hb6.jpg

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Classic

I think its lame. Just call it a defensive foul.

Coaches will just tell their players that their teams will pay them back under the table for any fines they incur for flopping.