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detteam
07-04-2008, 02:45 PM
Many think Zero's a jackass, but I've always liked the guy. Assuming this report is true, I like him even more.

WASHINGTON - Gilbert Arenas is accepting less money from the Washington Wizards, invoking an attitude far, far removed from the world of his working-class fans.

“What can I do for my family with $127 million that I can’t do with $111 million?” he told The Washington Post.

The unpredictable three-time All-Star point guard, in vintage Agent Zero fashion, told the Post and the Washington Times on Thursday that he has agreed to re-sign for $111 million over six years, considerably less than the maximum deal he said the Wizards offered him when the free agency period began on Tuesday.

Arenas negotiated the deal from China, where he is traveling as part of promotional tour for a shoe company, and did so without an agent.

“I’m basically giving back $16 million,” Arenas told the Washington Times. “This is in line with what I’ve been saying the whole time. You see players take max deals and they financially bind their teams. I don’t wanna be one of those players and three years down the road your team is strapped and can’t do anything about it.”Though I'm skeptical of his knee and very surprised the Wiz offered him a six year deal, I like what he's doing. The extra $16M would have probably gone to his agent if he had one. Instead, the money offers the team more flexibility to improve.

I'd like to see more players dump their agents...who, like attorneys, I consider to be mostly parasites that screw their own clients for big bucks while contributing little added value.

Arenas reportedly staying with Wizards - NBA - MSNBC.com (http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/25522488/)

Darth Tater
07-04-2008, 03:37 PM
Many think Zero's a jackass, but I've always liked the guy. Assuming this report is true, I like him even more.

He's one of my top five favorites too.

Though I'm skeptical of his knee and very surprised the Wiz offered him a six year deal, I like what he's doing. The extra $16M would have probably gone to his agent if he had one. Instead, the money offers the team more flexibility to improve.

I'm wondering about that knee too.

I'd like to see more players dump their agents...who, like attorneys, I consider to be mostly parasites that screw their own clients for big bucks while contributing little added value.

Lots, probably more do than don't, but not all.



See above.

roscoe36
07-04-2008, 03:54 PM
I don't think many players would be able to negotiate contracts in their own best interest. Everything I have seen thus far, is that agents are not co-opted into the NBA hierarchy, but actually push back and push hard for their clients to get the best possible money and/or opportunity.

CloudWalker
07-04-2008, 04:07 PM
Entering those types of situations without representation is more often than not like bringing a knife to a gunfight.

roscoe36
07-04-2008, 10:00 PM
Entering those types of situations without representation is more often than not like bringing a knife to a gunfight.
Did you see V for Vendetta (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hWCU6fWcF8)?

CloudWalker
07-05-2008, 04:05 AM
Did you see V for Vendetta (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hWCU6fWcF8)?

No, I don't believe so. Is it good?

Winless Wonders
07-05-2008, 11:19 AM
I don't think many players would be able to negotiate contracts in their own best interest. Everything I have seen thus far, is that agents are not co-opted into the NBA hierarchy, but actually push back and push hard for their clients to get the best possible money and/or opportunity.


I think all players neogiating their first contract should hire agents. When you are an elite player and you plan on staying with your current team I don't think you really need an agent. You basically know how much money the team can offer you. Hire an attorney for a couple thousand bucks to look over the fine print and the terms of the deal and also to make sure everything is on the up and up. Why give an agent millions for something you can basically do yourself with the help of an attorney for a couple of thousand dollars?

Winless Wonders
07-05-2008, 11:22 AM
Did you see V for Vendetta (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hWCU6fWcF8)?


Very good movie I thought. Not for everyone though. You really have to be into movies that make you think.

detteam
07-05-2008, 11:37 AM
I think all players neogiating their first contract should hire agents. When you are an elite player and you plan on staying with your current team I don't think you really need an agent. You basically know how much money the team can offer you. Hire an attorney for a couple thousand bucks to look over the fine print and the terms of the deal and also to make sure everything is on the up and up. Why give an agent millions for something you can basically do yourself with the help of an attorney for a couple of thousand dollars?Agreed. Besides, the legal-eez of most contracts is probably identical with only the $ being different.

Slippy
07-05-2008, 12:06 PM
No, I don't believe so. Is it good?I thought it blew chunks.

great agent hibachi story. i hope the can do something in the years to come.

lpgrl26
07-06-2008, 08:48 PM
I love Arenas, but him signing for that price doesn't help the Wiz. If it was maybe in the 105 range, then he would really be doing something. It leaves them w/ essentially 3 mil or so to spend and then i'm pretty sure they go over the L tax which the owner has been reluctant to pay.

roscoe36
07-07-2008, 09:47 AM
No, I don't believe so. Is it good?
I quite liked it. I like movies about the English. If you've read Orwell's 1984, or Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451 it's set in that sort of a future.

I thought it blew chunks.
Sighs. :ohwell: