20 games with Iverson

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  1. himat

    himat Bench Warmer

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    If it were not for all the small ball I would be fine right now. When Chauncey was here, Curry did not make stupid lineups. I guess he feels like he has to have Stuckey, AI, and Rip on the floor at all times.

    We need to get a win streak going soon. Like an 8-10 win streak. Lets start today with Atlanta who is ahead of us in the standings.
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    I wouldn't mind seeing the Pistons try out starting the game with small ball. Attacking the rim, drawing fouls, breaking out to a quick lead, etc.

    But then going big in the second Q and do the same in the 2nd half. Slow the game down in Qs 2&4 and really clog the lanes.

    I haven't been able to watch many games this year, but it seems as though we're able to get out to big leads no problem, but we haven't been able to maintain them.

    Thoughts?
  3. roscoe36

    roscoe36 All-Star Administrator

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    That's what they been doing the last 5 or 6 games.

    The starting lineup is small.

    The problem is, they haven't exactly been going big later.
  4. Ernie the Slow Adult

    Ernie the Slow Adult All-Star Forum Donor

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    I was almost glad when AI went down grabbing his knee the other night against the Wiz. Maybe they could sort this line-up thing out if TG, Tay or AI missed some games.
  5. pass99

    pass99 All-Star Forum Donor

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    Wow, are you that frustrated?
  6. jammertime

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    That was what I meant. I knew that they had been going small, but I'm talking about the combination of small and then big. All small hasn't been working. It's been good for getting the lead, but not holding it.
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    This is ideal, but Curry save once or twice hasn't really stuck to it.
  8. RipBillupsRJC

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    At least Flippity-do-dah knew the X's and O's. Curry's just a big mannequin sporting some 70's suit.
  9. Lee356

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    Since Tay is not playing small forward, even when they go "big" they are often playing on the small side. We start the game with both a small small forward in Rip, and a small power forward in Tay.

    This has always struck me as odd, that the Pistons never want to go real big, moving Tay to shooting guard. Stuckey, Tay, Amir, JMAX, Sheed. Or if they have two lumbering centers, Stuckey, Tay, Amir, Sheed, Kwame
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    Tay at the 2 was one possibility that I was thinking about with a big lineup, with J-Max, Dice or even Amir at the 3.

    Of course, that would leave 2 of AI, Rip and Stuckey on the bench, which probably wouldn't sit very well with them.
  11. Woody

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    It seems to me that a key element has been skipped over.

    Curry is a brand new coach. He needs at least 2-3 years to learn his craft.
    NO rookie coach professional or college is as good as he'll be after he gets a few years under his belt.

    Curry's small ball, tall ball, rotations, etc. etc. are all experiments which he will not need to follow in a few years. Particularly, if he remains with the Pistons. He needs a few gut-wrenching losses, and many dumb decisions to develope the experience that LB, Flip, Jackson, etc. have.

    Patience!
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    Experience is useless to a person who believes they know everything, and indeed believes he knew everything, even before his first assistant coach job. This is per M. Curry. He believes he was ready to be a head coach right out the gate, the moment he retired as an NBA player a few years back. If he thinks he knows everything, he will listen to noone, and be blind to anything that goes contrary to what he believes.
  13. roscoe36

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    That's very true and profound.
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    i also agree...i suggested that to my buddy who has the season tix with me...we've been getting good starts, so maybe start w/small ball and then go big to control the boards and tempo in the 2nd/4th quarters.
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    Bingo. This may be one of the reasons billups was traded. Billups was a leader that the players listened to. In order for curry to be a good head coach, he must be fired. He is too quick to throw his players under the bus, too. His type of personality is not suited for coaching. Too much of a know-it-all and sadly knows nothing.
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    Its hard to follow your logic. Since Tay is now playing out of position, and Rip is playing out of position. Some would add Sheed to that list. (Not me.) Yes, I can guess where you are coming from. Thinking of a perfect world where we actually have a coach who knows how to put an actual NBA team on the floor. But we don't, so again, where you are coming from is a mystery to me.
  19. Lee356

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    It could work for a 2nd unit. Stuckey and Tay could come off the bench:

    AI, Rip, Amir, JMAX, Sheed start the game

    Stuckey, Tay, Sharpe, Dyess, Kwame, (and Bynum) are left as bench players.
  20. roscoe36

    roscoe36 All-Star Administrator

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    Lee, I asked you not to reveal my mysteriousness to the forum. Please, if everyone knows how mysterious I am, they might crack the code of my posts, and unleash all sorts of forbidden knowledge into the universe.

    And that, simply will not do.

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