2007 PF.com Fantasy Football Talk

Thanks, Webz. I feel much better now.

last week to trade guys, NOV. 6 !!!

There have been some comments about some teams are lucky and others have had some bad luck. For example, last week my team put up 140 points and still lost. My son won one week and the score was 47-45.

So, the question is "Who has experienced good luck and who has been dealt with bad luck?".

First off, here are the current standings:

1. Ookie 9-0
2. Darth's Spartans 7-2
2. Jammer's Time 7-2
4. webz wreckerz 6-3
5. Woody's Marauders 5-4
5. Laimbeer's Lions 5-4
7. Bup-Bups-BomBs 4-5
7. Footballers 4-5
9. Winless Bruisers 3-6
10. Bezeach Blitz 2-7
11. Ozarkruffriders 1-8
11. Dynamo 1-8


Next, we have the teams sorted by total points scored:

1. webz wreckerz 1016.94
2. Darth's Spartans 986.94
3. Jammer's Time 958.82
4. Ookie 950.98
5. Bup-Bups-BomBs 892.08
6. Woody's Marauders 885.52
7. Laimbeer's Lions 844.84
8. Winless Bruisers 770.28
9. Ozarkruffriders 692.64
10. Dynamo 677.50
11. Footballers 672.44
12. Bezeach Blitz 657.78

Now for the crude analysis, simply comparing the standings based on win-loss versus total points:


These teams have experienced BAD LUCK:
webz w/most points, but only in 4th place
Bup-Bup w/5th most points, but only in 7th place
Oz w/9th most points, but only in 11th place


These teams have experienced GOOD LUCK:
Ookie w/4th most points, but in 1st place
Laimbeer w/7th most points, but in 5th place
Footballers w/11th most points, but in 7th place
Bezeach w/12th most points, but in 10th place


YOU GUYS ARE ABOUT WHERE YOU BELONG (win-loss standing, points standing):
Darth 2nd, 2nd
Jammer 2nd, 3rd
Woody 5th, 6th
Winless 9th, 8th
Dynamo 11th, 10th


Conclusion: WebZ is better than his 4th place standing indicates. Footballers is worse than his 7th place standing indicated.

Your analysis is interesting, but flawed!!

It doesn't take into account INJURIES!!!

Where would Darth be if Peterson got injured in the second game and was out for the season??? MY best runner, Ronnie Brown, went out for the season in the fourth game.

What would happen if Brady or Manning went out for the season?? Delhomme, my backup QB, went out in the second game.

Other teams have lost good players. The luckiest are the ones whose best players have made it through the season so far. The final result will probably be based on whose injury record is the best. The whole thing is a crapshoot!

I've done better than last year, but out of the playoffs.

Wow, you guys have WAY too much time on your hands to be doing all of this analysis! Having said that, I have thoroughly enjoyed reading it!

I agree with your last post Webz, and would also add Bye Week Management into that draft planning.

Injuries can be a huge factor and can make or break a season. Some of it is bad luck, some of it is poor planning/depth. I've been lucky on the injury front other than at the WR position. I've been without my top WR, Andre Johnson for the last 7 games. Santonio Holmes has missed 1 game and back at the beginning of the year when I had him on my roster Eddie Kennison missed 1 game. None of my players at any other position have missed a game yet (knock on wood). Winslow had a dislocated shoulder in 1 game and missed the 2nd half, but that's it.

I'm not a huge fan of the head-to-head format to be honest with you. I think it can be very unfair and misleading. I much prefer a straight up points format where we compare apples to apples.

Who's the commissioner of this league anyway, I want to file a complaint!

Great analyses by Laimbs & Webz. Very interesting and well thought out. :p_welldone:

It sounds like you're getting desperate, sending an email to my kid asking him to combine your two teams in a bogus trade effort in an attempt to beat the system.

I really hope that isn't true.

I'd like to believe that we all would show integrity...plus encouraging a little kid to cheat...is just wrong.

I've been in dozens of fantasy leagues over the years and I can easily say that I've enjoyed PF.com leagues the best because of the dedication, integrity, high level of competition and camaraderie of the members involved.

I don't enjoy leagues where every single trade is scrutinized and the motives of each member are called into question. I've been in many of those types of leagues and it sucks.

Seemingly "unfair" or "unbalanced" trades happen in real life sports all the time. My feeling is that as long as both parties enter into the agreement with the right intentions, a trade should be allowed to stand, regardless of who supposedly "won" the trade. Because every GM in the league has a vested interest in the outcome of every trade (especially in head-to-head leagues like ours), it can sometimes skew our opinions of what constitutes a "fair" trade. If the guy you're matched up against next week suddenly gets better as the result of a trade, or the team you're chasing for the last playoff spot improves, that isn't necessarily unfair, it's just unfortunate.

I've been in leagues where teams intentionally "dump" their players to friends through lopsided trades, release highly ranked players and otherwise attempt to sabotage or skew the league results if their team isn't doing as well as they had hoped, if they're bitter about one of their trades being vetoed, etc. That ruins the league for everyone. In this league, such an attempt would be blocked and the GM(s) involved would be locked out.

I'm not saying that is happening in this instance. All I am saying is that I won't allow it to happen if a situation does arise. I enjoy our leagues, and respect each of you too much to allow that to happen.

I understand that it's possible to lose interest (especially if your team isn't doing to great), or that situations come up that prevent us from being able to continue our participation.

I ask that if something like that does come up, or if you suspect "foul play", to please send me a PM so that I can address it.

I look forward to continuing to kick your butts the rest of this season!

Commissioner Jammer Roger Goodell Time

desperate times call for desperate measures.
how does it feel knowing your sons team sucks?

My son is having a blast in his first year of fantasy sports. Having fun is what games are all about.

Even more important, at the age of 13, it appears that my son is already more of a man than you will ever be.

That's low. Please...let's not go there...