2011 CBA Negotiations Thread

Discussion in 'Pistons and NBA' started by G-man, Aug 5, 2009.

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    I never said I would pay to see LeBron or Kobe...
     
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    It would take a lot dedication from the players to see it through as it the tv contracts and high ticket prices will not be there at 1st which would seriously cut into revenue. I don't know how many players would have the dedication to work for a start up league when they could make much more playing oversees or taking what the NBA owners are offering. I just don't see it happening. Who knows.
     
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    What an egotistical, spiteful, and hateful man David Stern appears to be. Then again, I know what the media can do.

    That being said:

    It appears that so many people will suffer, largely because of this man. He isn't the only one to blame but what would it take to oust him? A 2/3 vote by the owners or something?

    I don't like the NBA any longer. I haven't for years. In fact, I can't stand it. But I feel bad for the fans, businesses, and stadium workers. I was sick at the thought of the NFL season being shortened or cancelled, but thankfully, they worked it out. Had Stern been the Commissioner, I don't think it would have been possible.

    Bryant Gumbel: David Stern ‘eager to be seen as a modern plantation overseer’ - Ball Don't Lie - NBA Blog - Yahoo! Sports
     
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    Lets keep in mind that NBA players are the highest paid athletes overall and probably still will be once this thing is settled.

    Stern's media blitz to put pressue on the players has been failing and making the whole situation worse. He needs to sit down, stay out of the press, and get this thing settled soon. He is supposed to be the voice of reason when situations like this occur and instead is just throwing more gas on the fire.
     
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    Yeah, that's why I didn't mention the players with the people I felt sorry for.

    Right. Stern is making it worse. Intentionally. What hope does the league have of saving at least a portion of the season? If they get it going, which I doubt, it will suck for the team winning the ****championship***. Forever remembered with an asterisk. (Why do I always need to spell check that word)?
     
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    Thats the thing. Why are we talking about missing most of the season already. The season would not have even started yet and already he is threatening to cancel games through December. What is he trying to accomplish?

    Realistically you need what 2-3 weeks to prepare for the season? They can still play on a temporary CBA if an agreement has been made.
     
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    I don't care who ends up "winning" and/or "losing".
    - The players are overpaid.
    - The owners overpaid.
    - Live NBA games are cost-prohibitive for a lot of fans and none of the current rhetoric is addressing that.

    Fans should be the ones locking out anything and everything to do with the NBA. Instead, we are simply being robbed of our ability to see games.

    Stern? ...the Owners? ...the Players? ...the Agents?
    -ALL JACKASSES!
     
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    I'll add "Arrogant and Filthy Rich Jackasses"!
     
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    Bill Simmons Heads to the L.A. Kings in the Wake of the NBA's Labor Trouble - Grantland

    A good take on the whole thing. Especially this part:

     
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    Awesome.
     
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    The NBA Lockout Isn't Ending Anytime Soon | NBC New York

    Maybe some teams that will not turn a profit no matter what. Wonder what getting rid of Charlotte and New Orleans would do. Go back to 28 teams or maybe Milwaukee , Sacramento.

    Could de-expansion be the only real answer?
     
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    I prefer a two tier system. You have maybe 12 teams which have all the talented players cause they can afford them. They would operate under a different contract than the remaining 18 teams. The remaining 18 teams would have NBA level players, but those guys would make a maximum of 3-4 million per season...with the average player pulling in around 1 million. There could be player movement between the two leagues...As a player ages, or loses his skills, he moves down to the 18 player league. Nationally televised games would feature the top 12 teams whild the others would enjoy regional telecasts. Ticket prices would be less in the 18 team league, and they would have a separate schedule, and playoff format.
     
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    - Lol. Sometimes hard to tell if you are kidding or not.

    With these small markets. I have sympathy for the Milwuakees and Clevelands who the league has outgrown over the years. What about some of the recent ones like Charlotte, NewOrleans, Oaklahoma - Didn't they know what they were getting into? They knew how much it costs to compete in the NBA.
     
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    It seems like with a reasonable salary cap and some modest revenue sharing, these small-market teams should be able to co-exist with the big spenders in the new NBA.
     
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    modest and reasonable are not in anyone's vocabulary these days.
     
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    Think about it...Small market owners want cutbacks and big markets want to start the season...Time for my two tier system..................
     

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