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  1. Nemo

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    Basketball is good for Sacramento...[STRIKE]cause my brother lives there[/STRIKE] [STRIKE]cause the owner is decent[/STRIKE]
    well, mabye it's not a good idea.

    Hockey...I view as a regional sport here in the states where maybe 14 teams should be allowed to exist.
     
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    I can see your point and that is a popular view. I think the main thing that gets me is all the expansion and the fact that there really should not be a pro team in many of these areas the owners are complaining about.
     
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    I never knew that I held any popular views...thanks. To me, the downfall of pro teams will be the belief that the citizens will always support their local teams no matter the rise in prices and wages. This may be the beginning of the end of pro sports as we know them...
     
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    You could be right.
     
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    I'm down with the contraction of a few teams but which teams?
    A case can be made for almost everyone.
     
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    This is why cartels can't last in a free market. The interests of all of the cartel members are not equal. Unlike a marriage, where there may be some emotional attachment, in business, profit is the bottom line, and no firm is going to feel good about subsidizing another one at their expense.
     
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    Unfortunately....those are the cold hard facts of the NBA
     
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    NBA is more like a marriage. You want profit but your competitiors are not "classical" - shot 'em down and market is mine. In NBA, competitors help to earm profit for ya.
     
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    You are also subsidizing bad management as well. Sacramento used to sell out every game and what did they do with the profits? Did they fund a new stadium? Invest in talent scouts? Same thing with Indy, they signed a terrible deal with theirs that causes them to lose all kinds of money on it.

    And what about the Clippers? They have had what 25-30 years to tap that LA market and still remain a joke. The team they share a gym with will be asked to help support them?

    What about Charlotte? The fans ran the old team out and some idiot decides to invest in another one?
     
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    Funny how the "dream" league the NBA "small" markets keep citing as an example of profit sharing at work is also having a lockout of their own.
     
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    All good points that I failed to consider. There needs to be some conditions for recieving this money...
     
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    Here is a Drew Sharp article that I found interesting that relates to the last few pages of posts. He is anti-revenue sharing and salary cap.

    Drew Sharp: NFL, NBA owners need to buck up on capitalist credo | Detroit Free Press | freep.com
     
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    Thats pretty good. The NFL in my opinion does all the wrong things and should never be followed by any other sport no matter what because it only works for them. They can do whatever they want and people will always watch on Sundays.
     
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    I think football does well because each game matters so much. With a limited schedule, teams have to show up every week and give their best. Baseball...the feel from the fan's prespective (me) seems different when I go to a game.
     
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    Baseball is so laid back. I went to a Tigers game last year and could not believe how different it was. They do not feel the need to constantly entertain you there. It was a nice change.
     
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    Do you guys think we will eventually go to a pay for view way of watching the games soon?
     
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    not a chance.... it would mark the death of the league IMO. There was enough complaints when the playoffs went to the turner channels and to many people wouldn't be able to watch. I know there are other reasons for the fall of boxing, but the fact you can't see any boxing on free TV like you used to has to factor into its downfall with young fans. Being able to watch boxing matches on sat afternoons as a kid kept me somewhat interested in the sport.
     
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    What if they went to a boxing match type pay out. Each game was worth x dollars. The winner of the game gets 3/4 of that total and the loser 1/4.

    Not sure what kind of figure we would be talking but lets say each NBA game was a million dollars. The winning team gets $750,000 and the loser $250,000.

    All of the team expenses and salary are paid from these earnings.
     
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    Or what if you tied the players salaries into the W/L as well.
     
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    The players salaries would end up being tied to whatever the number is determined as the Pot for the game (the Million dollars in my example)
     

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