Advice to new Detroiters

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  1. BillLaimbeer

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    If you're a new player/coach in a major Detroit sport, do not choose jersey number 3. Look what has happened to Detroit number 3s in the last year:

    Alan Trammell (Tigers, #3) : Gone
    Joey Harrington (Lions, #3) : Gone
    Ben Wallace (Pistons, #3) : Gone
    Andreas Lilja (Red Wings, #3) : Okay, he's still in Detroit, but just wait...
     
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    Funny thread.

    OK, my seven year old was on a little league team last year. They were picking numbers and the coaches wife said "Take number three it was Babe Ruth's number". So he did.

    He runs up to me and proudly states "Dad, I have number three. Do you know whose number that is?"

    (I'm thinking Ben Wallace, but know that can't be right since I'm in Idaho). "No, tell me".

    As his entire team and coaches watched attentively, he loudly and proudly exclaimed "it belongs to some guy named Beethoven"

    Hence, his new little league nickname was born. Yep, number 3...stay away from it Detroiters! :laugh::bolt:
     
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    LOL, that's pretty cruel naming the kid after a Saint Bernard.
     
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    If Ben would have re-signed in Detroit, I think we would have eventually seen the #3 hanging from the rafters at the Palace. That is never going to happen now.
     
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    It's debatable whether Ben deserves that honor or not. I would say "no," but others could make a good case for "yes."
     
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    It's not going to happen for sure.
     
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    Well, maybe he'll get his name on the palace floor or something... whatever that is all about :noidea: .
     
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    Selling tickets. That's the only time the Palace has honored anyone during a game. To sell tickets.
     
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    Oh that's just mean.
     
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    But so true.

    Or do other teams do it to? Retiring Jerseys should be enough.
     
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    Does this mean we're gonna be stuck with 3 titles till the end of time? Curse of the Ben-Bino?
     
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    Speaking of which. Now that Ben is gone, when do you think the Palace sell out record will end? Do you think it'll have an affect?
     
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    Don't forget that Nazr Mohammed and Flip Murray are big fan drawing cards. Get your tickets early this season...
     
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    Good point. They may have to put an addition on the Palace!
     
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    Especially when Mo Evans (and his Lakers) are in town. Scalpers will be out of control that night...
     
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    There Will Be Nothing At The Palace To Honor Old Number 3. That Right Was Sold For The Money. You Know Money Isn't Everything!
     
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    this jersey retirement thing has got me thinking. its quite possible that we will be seeing less and less jersey retirements for the short-mid term future at least. players change teams so often these days that a player no longer associates with just one team for their entire careers.

    ben will have played most of his career in detroit and is the team he wll be most heavily associated with, but because of this move to chicago he most likely won't get his jersey retired.
    if he had spent his last years here, even degenerating into a little-used sub by the end, there is no question he would.

    although many players in the past have played for different teams, usually they can be associated mainly with 1 team. some have been lucky enough to have their jerseys retired by more than 1.
    wilt (3 teams)
    drexler, kareem with 2, etc.

    so who were the last guys to have their jersey retired?

    reggie miller (IND) 2006
    karl malone (UTA) 2006
    jason collier (ATL) 2005 (Due to tragic circumstances)
    scottie pippen (CHI) 2005
    sean elliot (SAS) 2005
    david robinson (SAS) 2004
    john stockton (UTA) 2004
    patrick ewing (NYK) 2003
    mitch richmond (SAC) 2003
    hakeem olajuwon (HOU) 2003

    so you can see that most of these players if not all are heavily associated with just 1 team. it will be interesting to see whether players in the future will miss out on jersey retirement altogether (such as ben), or be multiple retired. (shaq)

    i found a lot of interesting anomalies while researching this such as miami retiring jordan's 23. wtf?

    if anyones interested here is the link:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Basketball_Association_Retired_Numbers
     
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    I think they'll retire his jersey. I mean, he basically turned the franchise around. He was the foundation to a title team. Period. As much as I hate the fact that he left for a rival, he still deserves to have the number retired. If not him, then who from this group? Chauncey? Maybe, but he could do the same thing a year from now. I don't see Rip or Sheed as retirement material, and Tayshaun is a ways off if he does (he would be for sure if he's a lifer).
     
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    I Don't Think Ben's Jersey Will Get Retired Here. We Owe Him Nothing. He Left For A Rival In Our Own Division. He Will Be Lucky If He Doesn't Get Booed Here. He Gave All That Stuff Up When He Bolted. And He Is Running His Mouth.. It Would Be Up To Management And I Don't Think Ben Will Get Anything.. He'll Get What Larry Brown Got . Resented For His Disloyalty..he Was Going To Be The Highest Paid Piston Ever. But It Was Not Good Enough. He Wants Everyone To Suck Up To Him And It Ain't Gonna Happen In Chi-town.. Too Bad Ben!!!
     
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    Ben's jersey will get retired if this team falls out of the playoffs in the next decade and we are scheduled to play the Atlanta Hawks to a less than half full arena.

    It's business, and Ben's jersey will go up when it makes business sense.

    Unless of course he wins a title or two in Chicago, in which case they will probably hang his jersey first just to piss off Detroiters.
     

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