Amir Johnson?

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  1. BallDon'tLie

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    Damn good point TaS.
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    Without his propensity to foul + a developed J + a polished post game... we're talking KG.
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    I think his jumpshot is already pretty good. He's just not allowed to take it.
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    I'm sure it's OK in practice and when he's wwwwwiiiiiidddddeeeee open. But man is that a slow wind-up.

    I'd like to see him develop something that looks like a jump shot, but is really just a pass to himself off the glass.
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    Outside of Rip and Tay, Amir is the only contract that's worth anything on the trade market. We really don't have enough chips to trade with this summer - other than draft picks. Joe's going to have to do it in the free agent market this year.
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    This would probably send his game to the next level LOL
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    He doesn't have TIME to take it!

    That wind-up of his takes the better part of five seconds. Factor in that he often gets the ball AFTER Tay has already held the ball and spent a few minutes backing his man down and "doing his thing".

    The 24 second clock is yet another example of how the league has conspired against the Pistons!
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    With a developed J, another foot of height and a polished post game, I could be Adrian Dantley.

    Do you think Amir has any weaknesses? If so, what are they?
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    With a criminal record, a few chemical dependencies, a prosthetic leg and an eye-patch; - I could be Rufus Henry.
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    You win.
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    I do, but a majority of them i feel are fixable with experience, and this is in terms of what type of player i see him being. I don't think he's the next KG.

    I think his basketball IQ needs to be higher. He sometimes plays too frenetic, and ends up out of position. He needs to use better judgment in terms of what constitutes a good foul vs. a bad foul (although i feel like he gets reffed like a rookie). His offensive game around the basket needs work specifically his footwork and he needs to be more patient. Right now he's limited to scoring of of O boards and in transition. He needs to bulk up because he has a hard time holding his position against bigger post players and cannot always rely on athleticism on the boards. Oh, and he needs to learn to go up stronger around the basket when he gets a rebound.

    It's hard to be too critical of someone when you barely see them play, and what you're expecting out of them is to play a supplementary role and shore up the defense/interior and otherwise.

    I don't think Amir is a franchise player, but the things he does well far exceed his negatives in the role he plays on this team and all the things he does well are glaring needs in the SL as currently constructed.

    Ask him to play the role of Rasheed Wallace and then he would be lacking.
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    ...pump fakes.
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    Good response. Thank you.
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    I agree mostly with lpg's list. Amir's game lacks polish.

    And I worry that the refs will call him based on a profile, and he will have a very hard time avoiding calls later in his career. Refs do study players and profile them. I don't know what it takes to change your profile, but I imagine it is not easy.
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    So, you'll put him in for the final play of a triple OT game?

    I presume by that time, 7 players on the roster would've fouled out. :D
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    Good post. Put Amir on the floor with Chris Paul and he would do just as good of a job as Chandler probably.
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    Curry is fully aware that Herrmann can't contribute defensively. He is fully aware that Herrmann prevents any chance of our bench shining.[quote, Lee]
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    Curry isn't fully aware of anything.
    Curry ruins all good premises.
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    That's a good point. If the NBA changed the shot clock to say 48 seconds, the Pistons would be title contenders. They would have to bring back Arroyo, though, to do a whole lot of over-dribbling.
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    NO. Let me be clear. Only if the game has 7 full quarters (minimum) would Herrmann ever get into a game. (And then, only for the last second.) (And I got an out on that - if my players forget to call time with one second remaining, or the other team has the ball, Herrmann misses his opportunity to play that game.)(And if any of my players fails to forget to call timeout with one second to go in the 7th quarter, it will probably be a 3 game suspension for that player for acts detrimental to the team.)
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    I bet you'd be a heckava T-ball coach! Ruthless efficiency.

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