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    Some think the Pistons have the best starting backcourt in the league. Expanding that is there a better starting trio out there besides Billups, Rip and Tay at the 1,2,3 spots?

    NJ got a lot of props for Kidd, Carter and Jefferson. Are our guys better?
    Any other team have a better trio?
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    Only others that comes to mind are:

    Bibby, Martin, Artest..and Ridnour, Allen, Lewis.

    Noone else is even close.
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    Nash, Bell, Marion

    You gotta give some consideration to

    Davis, Richardson and Pietrus.
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    max "Some think the Pistons have the best starting backcourt in the league. Expanding that is there a better starting trio out there besides Billups, Rip and Tay at the 1,2,3 spots?

    NJ got a lot of props for Kidd, Carter and Jefferson. Are our guys better?
    Any other team have a better trio?"


    Can't argue with that. Rip, Tay, and CB are better .
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    Some good suggestions.

    If Prince continues with being a threat to score over 30 on any given night its hard to find any better. Especially when you consider their proven track record of defense and clutch play. Also how they play together as unit and know how to exploit mismatches and capatalize on mistakes.

    Sac could be a good candidate with Artest and Bibby. Martin will have to show me something beyond this season.
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    Bill, I'm hoping this is the comedy portion of the program. :nerd2:

    Although there is a group of folks who might argue for the first group.
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    I think when you factor in DNP's your have to exclude these two sets.
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    I think it is a close race between Rip, Tay and Chauncey and Ridnour, Lewis and Allen. If Tay can become a consistent 3 point threat and get more agressive on the boards I think they will be the best.
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    I am going to cheat a bit. We have the best top 4, Billups, Rip, Tay, and Sheed. That should pretty much end all discussion here.
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    Thats a seperate topic. I meant the best PG,SG,SF trio in the league.

    Seattle has 3 good ones but they missed the post-season. If we swapped out our 3 for their 3 would the team still get as far in the post-season? Making it to the ECF 4 straight years is no small accomplishment.
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    I think that Chauncey is a better option than Ridnour only because Chauncey has a better shooting touch and is bigger and stronger. Ray Allen is a better option than Rip and Lewis is better than Tay at this point in his career.

    If you swap the three out I think you would still get far in the post season. Seatle's problem has been that they have no real Center or low post presence. Nate McMillian bolting on them did not help either. Adding Wilcox this season has helped them but the rest of the team is not very good.
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    I think the Denver trio is right there with the Piston group.

    Smith (age 21) 16.8, Miller (age 30) 14.1 and 9.3 and Anthony (age 22) 31.8,

    :hoops:
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    Max, I was ready to dispute the backcourt thing until you added the SF... yes we have the best trio... Tay is starting to reach allstar status... it's what we thought/hoped would happen... lets see if the disappearing act goes away... this could be a nice ride with our new take charge SF.
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    Just trying to be objective.

    :hoops:
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    I wonder no one mentions Parker - Ginobili - Bowen? The might not be great, but they have what it takes and they're at least considerable.
    At least if it comes down to the best 4 and you add Duncan they're pretty close to our top 4.
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    Got to agree with you there. If it were a series it would be close. Ginobili and Rip are almost 50/50. One game Rip would do better and than Ginobili would do good the next. I think Pistons would win though because Bowen is only a three point threat.
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    I took all games through 12/02 and computed sprocket points. I took the most productive player at the PG, SG, and SF positions (as listed), summed, and ranked them in two ways...

    - by sprocket points: measure of total production
    - by share of team sprocket points: value to team

    Best trio's...

    By sprocket points....

    1. SEA - Ridnour, Lewis, Allen
    2. NJN - Kidd, Jefferson, Carter
    3. DET - Billups, Hamilton, Prince
    4. NYK - Francis, Lee, Richardson
    5. DEN - Miller, Anthony, Smith
    6. PHO - Nash, Bell, Marion (counting Marion as a SF)
    7. SAC - Bibby, Martin, Artest
    8. WAS - Arenas, Stevenson, Butler
    9. MIL - Williams, Redd, Patterson
    10. PHI - Iverson, Iguodala, Korver


    Ranked by share of team's total production...

    1. NJN
    2. SEA
    3. ATL - Lue, Smith, Johnson
    4. SAC
    5. DET
    6. PHO
    7. PHI
    8. DEN
    9. WAS
    10. MIL

    San Antonio ends up ranking quite low mostly because Ginobili has been injured.
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    Does having a strong "Top 3" trio help a team win games? If the playoffs started today, half of these teams make the playoffs and half do not. I guess you need some big fellas, too.

    NO- 1. SEA - Ridnour, Lewis, Allen
    YES- 2. NJN - Kidd, Jefferson, Carter
    YES- 3. DET - Billups, Hamilton, Prince
    NO- 4. NYK - Francis, Lee, Richardson
    YES- 5. DEN - Miller, Anthony, Smith
    YES- 6. PHO - Nash, Bell, Marion (counting Marion as a SF)
    YES- 7. SAC - Bibby, Martin, Artest
    NO- 8. WAS - Arenas, Stevenson, Butler
    NO- 9. MIL - Williams, Redd, Patterson
    NO- 10. PHI - Iverson, Iguodala, Korver

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