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Discussion in 'Pistons and NBA' started by mikhail1973, Jun 22, 2009.

  1. webz

    webz All-Star Snub Administrator 2x Fantasy Champion Forum Donor

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    A great Wilt stat to be sure!

    Only possibly trumped by the fact he never fouled out of a game in his career.
     
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    Touche!
     
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    Chamberlain played 14 seasons, 1,045 regular season games, 160 playoff games, 55,418 total minutes and never once was disqualified from a game.

    "I learned early from one of my very first coaches a very fundamental lesson," Wilt once said. "You can't help your team if you're not out on the court."
     
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    Surprised mr sunshine didn't get along with everybody.
     
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    His demeanor does seem sour @TaS, but Vince Goodwill of DetNews recently mentioned that he was a "good locker room guy". He was helping/encouraging Drummond last night when he was fussing with someone. Maybe it was when he got his 5th foul?

    I've done a 180 on Monroe. I want to keep him. It's got to be a reasonable contract. He's got to take a discount from the max for not displaying any sort of 2-way game.
     
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    Don't get me wrong, I'm pro monroe. Just have the feeling that he's kind of an old man from a personality standpoint (no offense to the older gentlemen here). Dre seems a lot easier to get along with.
     
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    I'm not too high on those statements: "he's a good locker-room guy". Shall we lump him in with CV? Perhaps, Ben Gordon (who had some differences with his past club)?
    After a few years, we may be able to make some generalized statements about Monroe:
    • He is not a dynamic type of on-floor personality (except in his defensive mood where complains to the whole world on not getting the right calls).
    • He is not an active body on the floor, where his personality contains a comfort zone within certain limits (floor spacing).
    • In reference to the above point, this particular aggressiveness (or lack thereof) comprises his dimensional influence outside his specific zone of influence.
    • In reference to the above point, how does this selective service react to the other players (abilities and general athleticism)? Can this be a hinderer's level for some other players?
    • How high is his potential beyond what we now see?
    • Where will he fit into a specific system that might emphasis selective talents and revolve around those that have dominance obtained by personality and athleticism?
    • He is a solid, but limited double-double. His agent says his top-end is all world...I think not. His max contact is probably around 12M. I would build some incentives into his contract. Draw a circumference circle from the net (16" ft.) and give him points for every shot that was successful from this range. We need to draw him out from his comfort level and make him work at a higher range that gives him more room to be aggressive. If he works at it (?), then he will expand his potential and increases everyone range.
     
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    Monroe and Drummond seem to have plenty of space when they play together now.
     
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    The Grantland piece threw out some devastating stats regarding Smith and Jennings.

    Of all the guys in the league that took as many 3's as Smith, he had the worst percentage.
    Of all the guys in the league that took as many 2's as Jennings, he had the worst percentage.

    When I look at our PPP vs our opponents this year, we were at 0.90 and they were at 0.92.

    Cut out our chuckers and we're probably playing winning bball.
     
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    That is why one one them needs to be shipped out.
     
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    Arguably the best team/chemistry game the Pistons played the entire season was game #82 at Oklahoma City. Sitting out that game was Stuckey and Smith. Coincidence?
     
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    Jennings is only signed for the next two seasons at 7 million per season. I'd like Josh to go.
     
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    Jennings was at least an attempt to address a position of need. The Smith move didn't make a lot of sense at the time. I like the Sad Boys nickname.
     
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    They make a good point about the Lakers taking Smart.
     
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    We don't need no prospects based on hearsay. If they had gone 0 for April like they were supposed to do, they would be flipping a coin with the Lakers for the 6th pick where the pickings are a little better. It seems like the talent drops off after the 7th pick......
     
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    Except you could get the next Steph Curry around the 12th to 15th pick area.
     
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    Maybe Stern will let them get lucky with the Ping pong balls. It seems like he allowed randomness to favor them in the past.

    But really, what possible GOOD reason could the NBA have for NOT making the draw public? It would draw attention to the sport and they could do a whole show on it and make some money. I just cannot believe it is not fixed. It just doesn't make sense. So to me the question is, does the pistons getting a good pick help the NBA? Just watch the Lakers get " lucky".
     
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    Granted there was not a lot of fanfare, but Stern retired a couple of months ago.
     

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