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  1. buddahfan

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    Once Hot Rod gets into the flow of things if he can play as good as we expect him to then our first three off the bench should be pretty darn good.

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    It is fun seeing games like this. Nice run they have going but they do it every year. Keep it up and don't get derailed in the Spring.
     
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    I am sure that Paxton and Skiles kick themselves everytime they compare Ty Chandlers stats to Ben's. Some chemistry problems at the United Center or where-ever they play at these days.

    Only wish we could done a sign and trade with the Bulls to get Chandler before he was shipped off to Nawlings......with the numbers he put up last year, that was definitely a title that Pistons missed out on...
     
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    I think Dumars was trying to get Chandler but the Bulls did not want to deal.
     
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    DETROIT 91, NEW ORLEANS 76: Fourth game in five days doesn't derail Pistons; team wins fifth straight

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    Now that was impressive. And the sort of game these guys have just given up on in the past. You got to love Hayes - just comes in and shoots the ball when the starters begin to look shell-shocked, when no one else seems to want a shot. The whole game turned when he hit a couple of jumpers.

    Not sure if this is right or not...

    Ben was a rebounding machine. And too many times the other Pistons sat back and got out of his way, maybe because they thought they were supposed to, who knows. Without Ben the rest of the team is finally coming around and starting to rebound as a unit. Seems like the same thing is happening in NO with Chandler. Everyone is getting out of the way and letting him go for all the boards, and when he's out, or when he gets blocked out, it all goes pear shaped. One big guy doing all the dirty work can get you a long ways, even to a championship, but I really like it when rebounding is the responsibility of the whole team.
     
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    another thing to note...

    - delfino shot 41.5% for us last year, and 33.3% from 3
    - hayes is shooting 48.5% and 43.6% from 3
     
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    Hayes probably has more shot attempts already this year then Fino had ALL last year.
     
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    Not quite there yet. Delfino attempted 376 shots last year, Hayes is up to 130 so far.
     
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    With extended playing time Jayes will catch him by the All Star break.
     
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    Here's the Lowdown (is that copyright protected?):

    Let's compare them this year.

    Delfino-
    In 510 minutes, he is 36-85 from inside the arc and 36-82 from 3pt land.
    That is and eFG of .539 and 13FGA/40 min.

    Hayes-
    In 344 minutes, he is 46-89 from inside the arc and 17-39 on threes.
    That is an eFG of .550 and 15FGA/40 min.


    The only difference that I can see in their offensive production is that Hayes shoots a much higher % from close range (51% vs. 42%). That is likely due to all the post success he is having.


    Delfino is kicking butt and so is Hayes. I think we would have been OK going either direction on this. However, Delfino probably needed a change and more minutes. The minor benefit to us is that Joe maintained a little bit of good will by not letting an unhappy situation fester.
     
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    Uuuggh OK lets be totally objective.
    Carlos Delfino was/is a good basketball player. The things that Carlos Delfino does well he was not able to do them here. Toronto is a better situation for Delfino to excel in. It would have made no sense whatsoever for this team to change it's structure for the sake of Carlos Delfino. Case in point some of us have had jobs where our best skills were never used, for a variety of reasons, the culture of the company, the ideal position was already being filled by a very competent person etc. etc. The same can be said for Delfino. Los needs mins and touches, he's not instant offense, he likes to play himself into a game and allow the game to come to him. There is nothing wrong with any of that, all of those are good qualities. In Detroit he did not have the luxury of playing that way, in Toronto he does, case closed. Delfino was never going to work here unless we dumped Rip or Tayshaun.
     
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    CD played 82 games last year and had 376 shot attempts.

    He has already tossed up 167 shots in 19 games or about 8.8 per game

    Hayes has only 130 shot attempts in 18 games or about 7.2 per game

    So CD is tossing up about 25% per shots per game than Hayes

    Murray has 131 shot attempts in 17 games or 7.7 per game

    So Delfino is tossing up 15% more shots per game than Murray.

    So Delfino lead the race for gunner of the year award.

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    This would be the difference between the "Detroit" Delfino and the "Toronto" Delfino. He is a part of the offense in Toronto and even though not a "major" part; he plays enough minutes over there to get up some shots without forcing them.

    This stat really does show how big a ball hog Murray is. Delfino is playing a ton of minutes in Toronto and Murray is getting only garbage time minutes and is still close to Fino's shot attempts per game.
     
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    So fellow :nerd2:...

    Last year Delfino shot the ball once for every 3.6 minutes he played
    This year Delfino shoots the ball once for every 3.1 minutes he plays

    So, he's actually shooting less this year than last.


    Hayes last year shot the ball every 3.0 minutes
    This year Hayes shoots every 2.6 minutes.

    So, he's also shooting less than last year, and a lot less than Delfino either here or there.

    Go figure.
     
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    You got that backwards.
     

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