KGREG, I feel you on the ball reversal. Sheed is the only one who'll do it. The rest kill it at the top of the key. Amazingly, not only don't they reverse the ball, but they won't throw it back into the post either. I would like to see Rip come off the bench. I think it would help keep the starters minutes down and develop the bench. After the first few games I thought Rip could be DET's Manu. Then I saw Rip play this year. Ginobli can finish strong at the hoop almost at will, play good D and get under players skin. Rip can't finish at the basket, fouls continually on D and lets people get under his skin all the while denying it. It's Rip against the world. From the good to the bad DET has no identity, no concepts to guide them. Every game is a blank slate. They exploit whatever mismatches the starters have (The good), but they have no rotation and no set principles on either end of the floor. This is why their bench has difficulty contributing. There is no A to B to C type flow for them to cling to. The need to excel in the same formless read and react model that the starters can. If they were that good they wouldn't be coming off the bench.