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Discussion in 'December 2012' started by roscoe36, Oct 29, 2012.

  1. Ernie the Slow Adult

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    I'm glad you said game instead of film or tape there. It would paint a totally different picture.
     
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    I don't think that Frank was Joe's hand picked coach. I think be was Gores hand picked coach.

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    Well, I used to have that, but I got rid of it. Watching and studying it was a hobby of mine, you know.
     
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    Detroit's bench holds opponents to the 4th lowest FG% in the NBA.
    NBA Team Opponents Stats 2012-2013 - NBA Fantasy Basketball Stats

    1) CHI- .405
    2) OKC- .406
    3) MIN- .410
    4) DET- .419

    Our starters hold opponents to the 15th lowest FG% at .448

    The reason for this disparity is Drummond vs Monroe. On the bench unit, we have an eraser. On the starting unit, we have a center who can't block shots. Keep in mind that Drummond has us ranked near the top while sharing most of his time with defensive legends like Bynum, Daye, and Villanueva.

    On offense, our starters rank 25th in the league in FG% while our bench ranks 11th. So, our bench is significantly better on both ends of the court.

    I could buy off on the theory that this is because they are playing against inferior competition, however the conclusion that guys on our bench get blown by while our starters are solid deserves to be scrutinized. In reality, the biggest strength of the Pistons right now is the bench's defensive effectiveness.
     
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    JD came around on the coaching choice. So coach needs to work out. And...because Gores really liked the hire.
     
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    On the subject of players getting "blown by". Daye did not get blown by once in this game. He did get erased on one play on a pick. The other three times he was scored on, two times it was as he shot out to the perimeter - and the third time it was Josh Smith hitting a three over Daye's outstretched hand. Oh, he did get called for tripping on one play - which did not result in any scoring by Atlanta.
     
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    I love that clip of Daye getting decked by a chest bump.
     
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    Daye did get blown by once after he switched with Bynum on a screen. Several times, Daye's man set a screen on Bynum and Teague went in for a layup. Daye didn't make a switch, help out, or even warn Bynum the screen was coming....he just stood there like a house on the side of the road.
     
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    Daye is made of styrofoam.
     
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    Did not happen. I watched every scoring play by Atlanta while Daye was in - he was involved in very few of them - in any sort of way.
     
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    Daye should be embarrassed. Stuff like that only happens to MSU WRs.
     
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    On the final play of regulation, the Hawks put all 5 players on the perimeter outside the 3-point line. Drummond sprinted out to cover Horford at the top and got left in the dust. In a 1 point game, I don't think Dre should have been guarding the 3-point line, he should have been hanging out in the paint only to stop any drive (zone). Charlie left Josh Smith and tried to cover while Bynum and Daye did the same on their men. They all converged on Horford and had no chance but to foul him. Not sure what the coaches instructed the Pistons to do there. They probably didn't give enough direction. If it was a 3 point game, then they played it perfectly... but it wasn't.

    With so little time, I wouldn't have worried about the weaknesses of zone coverage. An offensive rebound wasn't really possible.

    At the end of the first OT, Bynum basically had the game won on a killer drive, but had too much momentum and couldn't quite kiss it soft enough off the glass. Charlie V had the assignment of guarding J Smith again on the last stop and he pressured him nicely inside the FT line to force a fade away brick.

    In double OT, it looked like Daye was stuck on Teague most of the time and had no chance of following him around screens.
     
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    YES! Lee seems to conveniently miss all of that watching in slow motion. A lot of defense in the NBA is about rotating and switching, not just staying with YOUR man.
     
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    Considering Daye already plays in slow-mo, maybe it creates some kind of tape review paradox.
     
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    Rewind and watch the 4th quarter again.
     
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    Josh Smith did score 23 points in 18 minutes with Maxiell guarding him on .778 shooting. Not sure what the hit rate was on Daye, but it had to be better than the D of our every day starter.
     
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    I draw the line at 4 times these days of rewatching a game. Your assertion that Daye's "guy" set a lot of picks is kind of suspect since Daye mostly zoned up near the basket rather than follow any one guy. PS, must have been some kind of horrible defense Daye was playing as we closed a 22 point gap to tie the game up in the 4th.
     
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    Again, a 53 year old Chuck Nevitt could have done what Daye did.

    We caught up because Atlanta is notorious for blowing leads and we hit a ton of 3 balls.
     

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