I think Leyland has taken this team as far as he can. It is true that he is not playing, but I don't feel he has the intangibles to get his team playing its best baseball at the right time. He's not a winner. You can argue that his Marlins teams won a Series, but there are so many instances where his teams have underachieved when it counted most. Leyland's Pirates teams underachieved in the playoffs, too. So have these Tigers. This team doesn't need any more "players' managers." They need someone to make them feel uncomfortable once in a while. They need someone who yells at Ajax for getting picked off first base in potential clincher and also gets in Fielder's face for not running home. Gibson would have no problem doing this. Not sure of his availability. I think Leyland should retire and Dombrowski should take the commish job if offered. All this said, I can see that it would be tough for Ilitch to fire Leyland. I just hope Patches goes on his own. If he doesn't, a few hints should be dropped.