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Discussion in 'Pistons and NBA' started by max, Jul 1, 2006.
This board is goin to blow up if we find out Ben leaves
So the Pistons are only 4M less than the Bulls for the entire 4 years... that's encouraging... Neither Joe or Ben will let 1M per year let them separate
I agree. If the numbers are right, I think it's really good news. If the Bulls wanted to steal Ben, they should have brought a bigger first offer.
What would the Bulls do with Chandler and Ben? Play them at the same time? That would be the most stale offense in history. If they get Ben, they should trade TC. But the problem is that they are overpaying Chandler.
It's only the initial offer, and I'm a lot more certain that the Bulls will go higher if necessary than I am about the Pistons. But I'm not sure about this at all: All other things being equal, why would he take the Pistons' offer over the Bulls'? Loyalty to Joe Dumars? To his teammates? When there's a much more likeable coach and situation and arguably a better team in Chicago?
Cause we've got the cool Big Ben gong.:P
Is Skiles considered "Likeable"?
The part I'm having trouble with is that there's "arguably a better team in Chicago."
From Ben's perspective as a basketball player, as opposed to one Mr. F. Saunders, I'd have to say yes. You don't think Bulls+Ben, maybe+another FA is a championship contender? You do think that the Pistons with Mr. F. Saunders as their head coach, is a championship contender? I'd have to say that should Ben sign with the Bulls, they would easily be the best team in the East; whereas whether Ben returns or not the current Pistons run is over.
So you meant that the Bulls would be better with Ben than the Pistons would be without him. But wouldn't that be a consequence of Ben's decision, rather than a justification for it?
Ben's a Piston. This is his final big contract. He needs to get as much as he can for his family. He's not going to jump to the enemy. He just needs to teach Dumars what his trade value is. Nobody knows until the bidding stops. No need to worry. Ben's a lifer. Detroit made Ben. I'm not worried one iota. Of course. I wasn't worried about the Pistons losing in the playoffs either.
I was just watching Sports Final Edition (or whatever it's called on channel 4). According to Rob Parker's "moles," the Bulls are offering $60 mill over 4 yrs. They agreed that Ben couldn't turn down that much.
So he's definitely going to re-sign with Detroit, then.
These "contingency plans" that I'm reading about are not convincing me that it would be REMOTELY worth it to let Ben go. If we're not willing to pay a 4-time All-Star and 3-time DPOY what other teams will, enough to make him WANT to stay here, then what good players WILL we pay enough to make them come here? (When I say 'good' I'm talking about championship-caliber players. Right now the Pistons are like the Redwings and the Yankees in that if they don't win the 'ship, people freak out.)
52M or 60M? These beat writers need to face off and compare sources... may the wrong party get terminal writers cramp...that's ridiculous.
exactly. I mean, if Rob Parker said so... Interesting thread over at Pacers Digest about all this. Somebody is claiming that a Hornet's insider is saying a deal is practically done between Det/Chi/NO where basically we get a brokedown PJ Brown and Ben goes to Chi Town. Please, God, let this be false. (The insider supposedly got both the Peja and BJax deals before they went down). http://www.pacersdigest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22066
ASB adds this, which is probably the most truthful account yet: ... The Chicago Bulls, one of the few teams with the salary cap space to sign Wallace to a bigger contract, met with the 6-foot-9 center on Saturday. It is unclear if the Bulls offered him a contract then, but it's believed that Chicago is willing to give Wallace a multi-year deal that would average close to $15 million per season.... The mysterious "insider" is No1Hornet here. It seems that he's been reliable with his predictions so far.
I wish i had your faith I'm just waiting for the announcement that he's gone at this point
And why do we want a 37 year old PF (PJ)? Only thing I can think of is his expiring deal
That's the only reason i can think of too. We should trade all our players for expiring deals. Just think of the money Davidson can save!
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