Discussion in 'Pistons and NBA' started by Pwn Toney, Oct 11, 2006.
Re: Big Ben's Debut This is about as accurate of a take there is on the situation.
Re: Big Ben's Debut I don't blame Ben for leaving at all. 60mil is 60mil. But I do find him a little shallow in his lack of regard for the fans and for his ex teammates. Would it have been so hard for him to say He would miss his teammates and his Detroit fans? It wouldn't be OK if Chauncy and Sheed etc said they wouldn't miss Ben? Would it have been so hard for Ben to say nice things about his time in Detroit? I am dissapointed in Ben's attitude towards us. I think our current players have shown a lot more class, and I am proud of them. Go Pistons!!!
Re: Big Ben's Debut Hey easybuckets, what's understood, doesn't need to be said over and over again. Some fans seem pretty insecure about the players liking them back. For example. I have never told you how much I like you. Does that mean I do not? Let Ben go. It's time to heal.
Re: Big Ben's Debut I think we are doing a lot better. Ben threads are in NBA stuff where they belong and we are seeing less Ben references in Piston discussions.
Re: Big Ben's Debut Yep. Now we just gotta move all the Darko threads here!
Re: Big Ben's Debut I agree with Joe Dumars . If they don't want to be here, Trade em. I also think we need to stop blaming Flip for everything. A coach is not the social director. The coach is a boss, like it or not. And I also think that Joe Dumars is part of the ongoing decision on what playing time the guys get. So let's not heap all the blame on Flip for Darko and Ben leaving. And I also don't care for the remarks about Flip's nervous tics or whatever. Those kind of comments are really beneath us.
Re: Big Ben's Debut You're analogy is right. So, if an employee proves the boss wrong, should the company hasten the employee's departure?
Re: Big Ben's Debut The Pistons got the most out of Ben at an unbelievable price. They deserved to, because they were the highest bidder at the time and saw something in him that other teams didn't. Now Ben wants to cash in and play with a team that shares his bball philosophy. I really don't have a problem with either. Win-win. I like Ben and wish he were on the team... but I also like the concept of not overpaying players... especially when they are 30+ years old. It is moves like this that enable ongoing success.
Re: Big Ben's Debut could you explain how ben proved flip wrong?
Re: Big Ben's Debut I'm 100% OK with Ben taking the money and running... I saw no guarantees that we could beat the Spurs, Dallas or Heat with Ben and his new multi mil boat anchor contract. Living in the present for today & a future. Maybe Chicago will beat us this year... but they have no better chance of winning a ship... I like having a chance at improving without contracts that give us no chance.
Re: Big Ben's Debut I don't think there's a member on this board that wants me to go through that explanation from the beginning again.
Re: Big Ben's Debut Yes and I really would not want to counter again either.
Re: Big Ben's Debut Ben opening the season in Miami! After the opening tip, he played Shaq tough in the post and forced him to miss. Looks like Ben is at PF and PJ Brown is playing Center, but Ben is guarding Shaq one-on-one as usual.
Re: Big Ben's Debut Dwyane Wade just kicked Kirk Hinrich and got the foul call. Seriously. Hinrich was at least 6 inches away, and Wade kicked his legs out on a jumper and drew the foul. This is disgusting. Bulls up by 2...
Re: Big Ben's Debut Chicago swarming defense is pretty impressive to watch. They are very, very active.
Re: Big Ben's Debut Ben starting the season with 100% free throw shooting. Chicago doing well on defence limiting all but Wade.
Re: Big Ben's Debut Bulls up by 7 with 2 fouls on Shaq and Wade.
Re: Big Ben's Debut Sounds like "Gramps" Wallace is a good fit over there in Chi Town.
Re: Big Ben's Debut Ben is completely left out of the offense thus far. Completely. But he blocked Mourning and he's in there fighting for boards. I know a lot of Detroit fans want to talk him down because it helps deal with being rejected, but Ben is still a pretty special player. It will be interesting to see Nazr go head to head against him.
Re: Big Ben's Debut Honestly, did you expect different?
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