Duly noted. It's all there and the debilitating last part, concerning the offensive end, can be taught. But it needs the right coaching, tutoring and a learning organization. Gores is too new and to be honest, untested. Tell you what, I would give CV away and maybe even Daye to try this kid out. Maybe even both.
Joe essentially crippled CV's career when he added the "no-compete" clause in his contract which forbids CV from trying out for Automotion.
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As great as Ben Wallace was, he still caused serious issues when the Pistons tried to run their offense. It was essentially 5-on-4 (unless Michael Curry was in the game, then it was 5-on-3).
You can't draft a "Ben Wallace" type player (especially in the lottery). Ben Wallace type players are un-drafted FAs who have everything to prove and nothing to lose. Ben Wallace types are self-made, not drafted. A lottery pick should be able to win a one-on-none matchup during a NBA workout.
I agree with all of you; who knows if Ben would have become the same players had he been drafted in the top 8. Plus, he may not be a Olajuwon in the post, but he's got bball IQ and fairly solid dribble and passing skills and good hands. I don't like these Big Ben comparisons either; some years ago, every SG who could dunk was the second MJ. Nowadays, every offensively little talented but physically gifted big is the second Big Ben. If Biyombo falls into the late first round/2nd round, draft him. But drafting someone like that at #8 is at least questionable.
I don't know. Effort can be scouted. Defensive accumen can be scouted. Obviously how athleticism is applied by a player on the court can be scouted. As an athlete and an effort guy and supposedly from a defensive IQ perspective, this kid has it all - and he has a great build to be a defensive monster and super rebounder. Does he have the heart long term to be great? Nobody really knows until the player (any player) gets to the league. In this draft, I think they should take the chance, unless a guy with superstar ability but super high risk drops to us (i.e., one of the Euro big men - if they're that highly rated).
Thank you. Ben was not even drafted. Even Ben Wallace was not Ben Wallace. Someone who was drafted and was kind of like Biyombe was Rodman, but he was not drafted until the 2nd round. At any rate I would like to have Biyombe but I don't know if he is worth the 8th pick ( is the draft that bad? ). I am not too hot on any of the Euro big men either. I am not sure who to pick. NBA tv guys think we should pick Kawhi Leonard to replace Prince. May not be a bad idea.
Yeah the NBA TV guys pretty much showed everyone including Biyombe and he did look kind of raw out there with questionable offensive skills. He could turn out to be a (scuse my french) dark darko who will probably get a little more PT because the team is in flux.. However with the 8th pick, we need a player who can play everyday and not ride the pine like Dujaun Summers has done for the past couple of years. If there is possibility that Tay is going or then I am thinking more of a guy who they say can play defense now and can score when needed in Kawhi Leonard
NBA Lottery players need to be able to shoot. Simple as that. This is not the NFL where there is a learning period. The entire organization could be different in 3 years, see: last 3 years of Pistons.
I was thinking the same thing about Rodman. ...and I'm not sure who the heck we should pick either but I have a hunch that Biyombe is not our guy. I should not be able to beat an NBA lottery pick in a game of H-O-R-S-E.
Kawhi Leonard looked good from what they showed. I don't know. if Biyombe has some real bball intelligence then his lack of shooting would not bother me that much. Last thing we need is an Amir Johnson who can't shoot. Playing oversees who has actually seen him in action?
