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  1. blueadams

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    I've got the blues, boys. I've got the TreyBurkeKentaviousCaldwellPopeAndreIguodalaCharlieVillanuevaRodneyStuckeyGigiDatomeChaunceyBillupsWillBynumJerrySloanMauriceCheeksKhrisMiddletonBrandonKnightSlavaKravtsovBrandonJenningsJoshHarrelsonJoeDumars blues.

    I found myself - helplessly, unintentionally, effortlessly, naturally, through no fault of my own - rooting for Trey Burke to finish in transition, to make good passes, to hit open shots and to cause turnovers the other night. Even in my darkest times as a fan, hoping that the Pistons or Lions would lose games late in seasons for better draft picks, I was never able to truly, intentionally root for members of opposing teams to succeed. I found myself, thankful. Thankful. That we didn't draft Trey Burke.. because I was glad his career wasn't getting screwed up here. In this mess. In Joe-D's nightmare. In hell. I've found myself having trouble watching games. Watching any NBA games. Visiting this site. Looking at NBA news. I've been watching 88/89-89/90 and 03/04 videos on youtube to keep me afloat.

    I'm hopeless boys. Don't try to talk me out of it; it will only piss me off more. Our owner is a private equity firm that's holding onto us until the market turns, who has zero interest in winning beyond its implication on our financial bottom line to the degree that the franchise could be handed over to someone else for a quick profit. Our general manager has completely lost his mind.. or just plain quit caring enough to put forth the effort necessary to succeed.. or both. Probably both.

    My professional basketball reality is bar-hopeless. I'm escaping to my fantasy basketball reality.

    BREAKING NEWS: Tom Gores has plead guilty to numerous counts of fraud. He's going to prison. David Stern and the NBA have taken control of the franchise. He's approved of Mike Illitch's proposal to purchase the team. I've won Mike Illitch's "Why I should be the new general manager of the Detroit Pistons Little Ceasers Pizza Pizza Essay Contest." I ~ blueadams ~ am the new general manager of the storied Detroit Pistons. Mr. Illitch, in his senile state, has given me complete control of the team. I've hired ALL OF YOU as advisors.

    Let's win a championship.

    (stay tuned for my next post)
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    First things first - TEAM IDENTITY. This is what I want. If nothing else, this is what I'll get. The 1988-89 Detroit Pistons are the model. I want the hardest working team in the entire league. One of the hardest working teams the entire league has ever seen. Night in, night out, we will outwork our opponent. In the off-season, no one will work as hard, or improve, like we are going to. THE SMALL THINGS. The things that any NBA-capable athlete can do. We will do. 100% effort on defense, at all times. Sound, in your face, pressure, positioned, smart, intelligent defense 48 minutes a night. Relentless boxing out on the defensive boards. Relentless attacking of the offensive glass. Pressure. Pressure. And more pressure. Hands in passing lanes. Explosive readiness to pounce on lose balls and errant passes. Intelligent offense. No wasted possessions. This is a GAME OF POSSESSIONS. Control the ball, PROTECT the ball. Smart passes. Work hard for smart shots. Run the court. Get your easy baskets. Out condition your opponents. Prepare for games. Know your opponents. Know the film. Know the analytic's. Know your role. Know your job. Know your positioning. Know your plays. Know your goals. An entire team with one goal - TO WIN. To do whatever it takes to win. To put aside all personal egos. And to intimidate with toughness. To be the toughest team the league has seen since 1990. To want it more than anyone else. To punish those in other colors who want it too. To make them ****ing earn it. To see if they really want it. I want a team that gets physically sick when they see a ball go in their own basket. A team that cannot stand to lose. That, physically, cannot stand it. Who hurts to lose. And whose only cure is to win.

    The team identity is my call. No debate. Sorry, advisors.
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    Second thing second - HEAD COACH. This is a second area where, I'm afraid, I won't be needing any advising. There is only one man on this earth who I want leading said team. Only one man capable of creating the atmosphere, attitude and outlook that I want. ISIAH LORD THOMAS THE THIRD aka ZEKE. He was the unquestioned leader of the original Bad Boys. Chuck Daly's first lieutenant. And he's the only man whose capable of doing the job I want done. In the NBA, at Indiana, in his short career as a head coach, he was actually quite great. There are very few, perhaps none, who would demand the kind of respect he would from the players. He would get them to put winning first. To make losing hurt. To make them tough. To truly get 100% out of them.
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    Mo gets more than half out of them.
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    ...not gonna have time to finish this installment tonight, but I'll post what I have now in the interest of not losing it:

    Third thing third - ASSISTANTS. Zeke's gonna need a hell of a lot of help coaching, from very smart guys. Need the ADVISERS to get involved here

    (*note* I will not steal any coaches from the University of Michigan basketball staff. That team is my first love. No debate). (*second note* Money is no object with this staff. The staff is where the money is best spent. We're going to match or exceed anyone's salary to get them here. We'll assume, of course, that no head coach (NBA team or prominent NCAA team) would take a demotion to an assistant's position...that no GM would become an assistant GM...etc. And, you know, I don't want to do anything too unrealistic here. To pretend that someone really iconic whose making a comfortable living doing something else (or comfortably doing nothing) is going to come out of the woodwork to be an assistant coach under Zeke).

    .....First Assistant ~ Offense. I think that Popovich is, far and away, THE best mind in basketball right now. So, I'm going to be considering a lot of his assistants (well, all of his assistants lol). Whoever his lead offensive assistant is, he's a candidate for this job. Paul Westhead, the Guru of Go, the innovator of The System (currently the head coach of the Oregon Women's basketball team). He's always been one of my favorite coaches. Especially one of my favorite offensive specialists. He's a candidate.

    .....Second Assistant ~ Defense. Again, whoever Pop's guy is, he's a candidate. Nolan Richardson, father of Arkansas' 40 Minutes of Hell defense (last coached the WNBA's Tulsa Shock in 2011, and the Mexican National team more recently). One of my favorite all-time defensive specialists. He's a candidate. If Rick Carlisle's ever fired, he's hired here the next day.

    .....Third Assistant ~ Analytics. Analytics are very, very important aspect of the game these days. Pop's guy ~ again, he's a candidate. Dork Elvis over in Houston, the father of modern basketball analytics, whoever his guy is, I'm interested.

    .....Fourth/Fifth Assistant ~ Player Development (Big Men): I'd like for this guy to be a recent player. I'd like this guy to have some Pistons history. He's obviously gotta be a guy who knew both ends of the court (sorry Big Ben). Gotta be smart. Gotta be a good communicator. Gotta have, himself, a lot of the intangibles I want in my team. I actually really like Rasheed Wallace in his current role. Others I'd like to talk to.. David Robinson. Hakeem Olajuwon. Patrick Ewing. Hell, Kareem's probably still out there wanting to coach. Laimbeer and Mahorn I'd at least talk to over the phone, I suppose. Antonio McDyess was a real dog.

    .....Fourth/Fifth Assistant ~ Player Development (Guards): Repeat much of what I said just above. Chauncey Billups is a guy I really like for this role. He's basically in it now. Can officially slide into it at the end of next season. There are plenty of others I'd like to at least interview. Gary Payton being a big one.

    .....Strength and Conditioning Coach. Arne Kander's been here a long time. He was around some of the original Bad Boys. I don't mind him. But I'd consider going with someone younger and more attuned to modern theories. Actually, I'd prefer that. I'd look to SA, again. But who knows how advanced they are.

    .....Athletic Trainer. Mike Abendour been here even longer. I wouldn't mind him either. But again, I'm looking for someone fresher. Someone more in touch with today's greatest knowledge. And I'd look to SA again here too.
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    The only reason Popovich is such a good coach is because of two things:

    A) He never lets his players deviate from his system. Watch any SAS game, and you will see the same thing happen over and over and over and it will be executed perfectly every time. I have watched him bench Parker, Manu and Duncan for lazy offense and disinterest.

    B) He tailors his system to his players strengths. When players go to San Antonio, they are given a place in the team, big or small and expected to fill that role or else they are cut (Stephen Jackson) or ride the pine. But they are picked because they have strengths which Pop (and co.) can use.

    Cheeks is hopeless because
    a) He lets people play rec court ball
    b) He doesn't know what the strengths of the players are.

    Now I understand this is a game, but what do you think our chances of stealing 75% of the SAS coaching and player development staff?

    I actually wouldn't be opposed to buying out Hollinger from Memphis. I think he could do wonders here.
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    I hope you aren't feeling as depressed anymore, blueadams.
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    Hollinger is overpriced due to his celebrity status. Just sign up one of those string theory physicists. If they can discover that we're living in 12 dimensions, they can spot smith's low fg percentage.
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    In the 12th dimension, Josh Smith shoots 3.12 from the field and is plus 6500. Singler still sucks.
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    No, no. I agree on the SA assistants. It was late last night, so I was just putting together some initial lists. Need to advisers to help me out on this one big time lol!
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    I'm feeling great! Michigan hired some egg-head from the Ivy league - - who's determined to put an end to high salaries for coaches in college athletics - - as its president this morning. I'm thrilled today!
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    Hollinger's a name for the analytics role..

    Maybe I should restructure the coaching staff. Move the analytics man to the front office. Hire more of a backup head coach as the lead assistant. Once we get to the front office discussion, we'll get back into the analytics people. My initial thoughts are to go straight to the source and steal Dork Elvis's head man.
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    So,

    For lead assistant coach...we haven't gotten into names (SA?)

    Offensive assistant...Westhead and.. (SA?)

    Defensive assistant... Richardson and.. (SA?)

    PD-Bigs... Sheed, David Robinson, Hakeem, Ewing, Kareem, Laimbeer, Mahorn, Dyess..

    PD-Guards... Chauncey, Payton, Reggie Miller...

    S&C... New school (sorry Arne) (SA?)

    Trainer.... New school (sorry Mike) (SA?)



    ...*and remember. Coaching salaries will be emphasized in the new regime. Highest in the league by a significant margin.
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    Lead assistants.

    ...Perhaps there are some prominent ex-coaches who would be interested in a more stress-free job as a lead assistant. As I'm going through this list of great basketball minds, I'm starting to think that a lot of these guys might be better suited for front-office roles. But we'll look into it all.

    -Lenny Wilkens. Stepped down from SEA's front organization in 07. Last coached the Knicks in like 05. Currently working for FSN Northwest.
    -Don Nelson. Hasn't been doing anything since GS fired him in 10.
    -Jerry Sloan. Just stepped down the other year. Think he's an adviser in Utah now (those jobs are all spoken for here!). Potential offensive assistant.
    -Larry Brown. HC at SMU. Don't think he'd come here unless it was in a major role.
    -Bill Fitch. Getting close to 80. Hasn't coached since..98.
    -Hubie Brown. He IS 80. But damn he still sounds smart on tv?
    -Eddie Sutton. Last coached in 08, in college.
    -Lute Olsen...not 80...but seems about 100, sadly.
    -Jim Calhoun. Might be more of a front-office guy, now.
    -Dean Smith. Seems there mentally, at 82.
    -Bobby Knight. Getting sick of tv?
    -John Thompson. 72, working in TV.
    -Doug Collins. Ugh.
    -George Karl ~ potential offensive too.
    -Rick Adelman ~ potential offensive.
    -Lionel Hollins ~ potential defensive.
    -Nate McMillan.
    -Scott Skiles. ~ defensive.
    -Stan Van Gundy ~ offensive.
    -Some assistants: Ron Adams(BOS), Kenny Atkinson(ATL), PJ Carlesimo, David Fizdale (MIA), Pete Myers (GS), Stephen Silas (CHA), Elston Turner,
    -Some current close-to-retirement players: Derek Fisher, Shane Battier, Grant Hill, Steve Nash, Ray Allen, Mike Bibby, Anthony Carter, Juwon Howard, Earl Watson, Steve Blake, Mike Dunleavy, Jason Terry, Mike Miller.
    -Some others: Kelvin Sampson, Jeff Van Gundy, Avery Johnson, Flip Saunders, Michael Curry, Mario Elie, Lawrence Frank, Alvin Gentry, JB Bickerstaff, Darren Erman, Tim Grgurich, Adrian Griffin, Dave Hanners, Bob McAdoo, Ron Rothstein, Wes Unseld Jr., Darrell Walker.

    Good list of smart names to start us off. Get us thinking.
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    I love this list! Let's hire them all! The Palace will be full once again, but this time with assistant coaches!
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    I think, interestingly enough, we should start with our big man assistant (the role Sheed is currently in). Andre's far and away our most valuable asset. He's super young. His development is as important as any other single thing.

    -Sheed. A very talented offensive and defensive player in his day. Very smart. Great communicator. Tons of respect from his peers. And just a cool dude. But I sort of didn't care for his antics. Was very rarely a 100% kind of guy. Not sure he lived too right off the court. (Dyess, honestly, isn't far behind Sheed. I loved him, all-around).

    -Laimbeer. He was Zeke's lead admiral on the original squad. Has a good deal of coaching experience. Will toughen dudes up and get the most out of them. Wasn't a super athlete as a player...but does that mean he couldn't teach skills needed? (Mahorn is behind him).

    -Hakeem. Most skilled big man of all time. He'd be able to teach that. Toughness, idk? He's a candidate for sure. David Robinson, I think, is right there with him. Patrick Ewing isn't far behind. He's right there with Kareem too, but toughness?

    ...I don't know. I think I'm going to pass on Sheed. Dyess too. Pass on Mahorn. I don't think Robinson's ever even had an interest in coaching, so I guess I'll rule him out. Olajuwon runs camps and works as a consultant to big timers...but idk how passionate he'd be about coaching either. Ewing's definitely is passionate about coaching, but I think he's just behind the other guys on my list.

    I think I'm down to Laimbeer and Kareem (definitely passionate about being a coach). Bill brings everything I want toughness-wise. But I think Andre, and Greg - if we keep him - their skill development is so important. I think I've got Kareem in the lead, for now.
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    Next, lead assistant discussion. Need this dude to be a real mentor to Zeke, bc Zeke might not know a ton about basketball.

    I really like Lenny Wilkens for this role. All the experience in the world. Zero ego - think he'd be comfortable as an assistant, mentor, behind-the-scenes help. Think Zeke'd respect him, listen to him. He's been off the sidelines for a while now. Doesn't strike me as someone who'd be in love w/ his current TV role.

    Don Nelson - hasn't been out of NBA long enough. Don't think he'd take an AC job, or get along all that well w/ Zeke. Sloan, I love. But might be more of a front office guy for the same reasons. Larry Brown. Love him too. But again, more of a front-office interest. Bill Fitch - don't know a ton about him, honestly. Hubie Brown ~ maaaybe you could talk him into being a part of the front office. Lute Olsen just isn't there for a front-office job, and wouldn't be interested in an AC job. Jim Calhoun, potentially front office. Wouldn't be interested in AC. Dean Smith. Potential in front office, no interest in AC. Bobby Knight, ditto. John Thompson, same. Doug Collins, same. George Karl, same.

    Eddie Sutton might be of interest as a lead assistant. P.J., potentially. Sampson. JVG probably wouldn't be interested. Frank, Gentry, etc... I've kind of made my mind up at this point in the thought process.

    Rick Adelman - might of interest as an offensive assistant. Stan Van Gundy...it'd be a hard sell, but possible. Wesphal there. Flip?
    Lionel Hollins - might be of interest as a defensive assistant. McMillan and Skiles too. Richardson there. Curry?

    I think I'm leaning towards Lenny with the lead assistant's role.
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    Might as well get defensive assistant out of the way, bc I think it's pretty obvious.

    Lionel Hollins is one hell of a coach. He's young. He's out of work. He's undervalued. Hire the man. Like him more than Skiles or McMillan. Love Nolan Richardson (he can be a backup option). Not super interested in Michael Curry being here.

    Lionel Hollins - def ast.
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    Going to get to my second Player Development hire now, guards.

    Think we need a pretty current player here, as Kareem is older. Someone who can relate to the younger guys. And there are a hell of a lot of great options.

    Chauncey, of course, is prominent.

    Reggie Miller, I'm a big fan of. Think he's smart. Would be great to help the kids out with their shooting. (Chauncey could too, of course).

    Gary Payton. Loved his attitude, defensive tenacity.

    Ray Allen's someone who might be thinking about hanging em up soon (shooting!).

    It'd sure be nice if Zeke and Adrian Dantley didn't hate each other.



    You know what? **** it. I like the tension. I like there being someone on the staff who isn't going to be a "yes" man for Zeke. Might leave us without a young assistant, but I don't care. Dantley was one of the most skilled wings of all time, a true technician, and he's got a lot of teach. Old school toughness. Been in professional coaching. Currently working as a crossing guard, for money. Time for him and Isiah to make up and to win a championship together, finally.

    Player Development - Wings: Adrian Dantley.

    Now we've got Kareem working with bigs. Dantley working with wings. Zeke working with points. Hollins designing the D, and working on that. Lenny overseeing it all and mentoring Zeke. Just need an offensive architect, now.
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    Offensive assistant.

    Important role. Everyone in the league now basically runs that ball screen action in a million different variations. No one does it better than Pop. But his staff really got picked over. Would love to get someone from the Beilein tree here, but I'm not going to steal a UofM assistant. Phil Jackson has yet to successfully teach anyone to run the triangle. SVanGundy, I think, is a little too brash for this staff. Don't think his brother'd be interested. Flip, meh, never really liked his system (even if he'd be interested).

    Think I'm going to go with Paul Westphal. The true master of the fast-break offense. Which I'd love to run in combination with a super pressure defense here.
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