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Discussion in 'Pistons and NBA' started by blueadams, Feb 21, 2013.
Have we elected a neutral board member to run the simulations yet?
If I could re-draft now, knowing what I know about the simulator... 1st: O. Robertson, PG 2nd: K. Abdul-Jabbar, C 3rd: E. Baylor, SF 4th: D. Wade, SG 5th: M. Malone, C 6th: S. Haywood, PF That team would roll in this stupid simulator.
I wouldn't bet against that team in real life.
Perhaps it has to do with those players having incredible seasons, not that it is a stupid simulator....
For the record, I think the 8 of us should just vote on matchups. This simulator seems to lead to entirely random outcomes when even moderately competitive teams are matched up against one another. I just put together a team of the 12 most expensive players in the simulator (C: Wilt, Kareem, Moses, PF: Haywood, Duncan, SF: LeBron, Erving, SG: Jordan, Kobe, PG: Oscar, Nate, Wade). Then I put together a team of who I view as the 12 best players of all-time (C: Wilt, Russell, Shaq, PF: Duncan, Malone, SF: LeBron, Bird, SG: Jordan, Kobe, PG: Oscar, Magic, West). My personal best team beat the simulator's best team 30-20. It's completely random. See for yourselves. Play the same team against itself 50 times (25 home, 25 away). Then do it again. Then do it again. Completely random. Let's just vote.
If the current Pistons squad beat either of those all-star teams 50% of the time, then I would agree the simulator is completely random. As it is, it sounds like you're playing teams with very little difference in quality and so it's unclear exactly what swung the outcome. That sounds about the same as every fantasy sport league we have. Some luck is involved. Let's just have fun with it. Voting will inevitably result in bad feelings.
Simulators are never random. Put 6 charlie v's against an all star team. If they win one game, then we know that Charlie V is the GOAT
Let's stick with the simulator. Voting takes the fun out of it. When a result of a matchup is perceived to be bogus, then we can all get mad at some stupid piece of software instead of each other.
I'm totally open to using a better sim if there is one.
Okay, so I entered a couple of our teams into the simulator. Since it requires you to enter exactly 12 players, I entered the top two seasons of each player. Here is what Lamebrane's team looks like: Here is my team:
once i saw a list with Greg Monroe number 3 , .....OY!!!!!!! ANYYYway...Ive been watching basketball since 1969 so here are my 15 BEST PLAYERS (in spite of injury and based ON being the best or MOST original at what they did) that I ever saw: 1. LARRY BIRD 2. EARVIN JOHNSON 3. MICHEAL JORDAN 4. BERNARD KING 5. AKEEM OLAJUWON 6. ISIAH THOMAS 7. LEBRON JAMES 8. KAREEM ABDUL JABBAR 9. BILL WALTON 10. KOBE BRYANT 11. SHAQUILLE O NEAL 12.CHARLES BARKLEY 13. RICK BARRY 14. GRANT HILL 15. PETE MARAVICH
I did the same thing on Monday, using almost exactly the same seasons (I used 94-95 Rodman instead of 93-94, 9-10 Howard instead of 07-08, and 02-03 Wallace instead of 01-02, and gave you 60-61 Bob Pettit instead of 63-64). In 25 sims, I went 15-10 (all away games). What did you get?
I did 10 sims (5 home, 5 away) and you won 6-4. I don't think I set the minutes correctly, though, for my team. First, it gave me an error message because it was trying to start Elgin Baylor at both SG and SF. I think having two Michael Jordans playing at the same time gave your team an unfair advantage.
Make all the teams have the same home arena, and play all games there. I suggest the Palace. All teams should submit which two years they want their players to use and which year is the starter and thebackup. Then each team could submit how many minutes they want each player to play. If a GM doesn't want to go to the trouble, the default settings could be the top year as ranked by the simulator is the starter, and the starter gets all the minutes.
The home and away thing still makes a difference, even if both arenas are the same. I suggest at least 50 simulations total per matchup, 25 home, 25 away. Maybe even better... It's a 7-game series. 10 simulations = 1 game. Higher seed gets games 1, 2, 5, 7 at home.
There's a problem with doubling up players. When you set your lineup, it's impossible to tell which Jerry West you're starting and giving more minutes to, and which Jerry West you want coming off the bench and playing less minutes. Gonna have to go with the '12 Pistons as our reserves. Give them 0 minutes. PG: B. Knight SG: B. Gordon SF: T. Prince PF: J. Maxiel C: G. Monroe 12th: R. Stuckey
The problem is, even though you still set their minutes at zero, it gives those guys some minutes. Maybe we should draft another 6 rounds? We have nothing better to do.
Honestly. This gets so complicated setting up the bench. We should just pick our 5 starters. Give them all 48 minutes. Throw your sixth man into the mix with the '11-12 Pistons (Knight, Gordon, Prince, Maxiel, Monroe, Stuckey). Don't even list anyone on there as backups.
I'm certainly not opposed to that...
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