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Discussion in 'Pistons and NBA' started by Winless Wonders, Nov 18, 2006.
So you're saying get other teams to give up their talent so we can get AI?
Philly is in full rebuild mode and looking to dump salary. Philly is not going to get equal value for Iverson. Also since Iverson has a no trade clause he is probably only going to accept a trade to a contender or a team that is close to being a contender. The only way we get Iverson is to give up 1 starter and a draft pick and get a third team involved. The only person I am willing to trade is Chauncey and that is only if we get a number from his agent that is in the 15 to 18 million a season range that we know we are not going to pay to resign him next season. It is better to trade Chauncey now get Iverson for 2 years and then dump him or resign at a cheaper contract then risk losing Chauncey and get nothing and haveto run out and get a guy like Keyon Dooling to play point next year for us.
Thats exactly what I am thinking. Joe says anything to re-sign Billups ( where did we hear that before? )
Is it possible that we are underestimating how much Billups likes his role in Detroit as the MVP and also how well he gets along with Joe D? Maybe they have it all worked out already. I'm as synical as anyone, but this scenario is not implausible.
WW, I wish you would stop trying to make it plausible. I hope you are wasting your time with this. TaS, that's the current reality.
Heard on WDFN today that AI does not have a no trade clause.
Looks like Golden St is the front runner. Possibly moving Troy Murphy...(he had a mysterious DNP yesterday)
I am hoping for Minnesota or Sac. Sac says no deal but thats what they said about Artest last year. Figures if its GS, no excitement there.
I read something crazy like Iverson and Stephen Hunter for Baron Davis and Bedrins. That would be dumb on Golden St part to give up a young upstart center for a aging point guard. I would say no deal if Philly wants Bedrins. Chris Mullen would become the Matt Millen of the NBA in my book he pulls the trigger on this trade because he would have been hoodwinked and bambozled at the same time.
Here is an interesting thought. If Iverson goes to Denver, one would assume that Andre Miller would be coming back to Philly. That makes it almost completely unlikely that Dever will show any interest towards Billups. It's actually a win for Pistons fans and the franchise. One less suitor means less bidding.
Marc Stein had an article about that yesterday.
For all intents and purposes, he may as well have one. No one wants an $18 million dollar player who does not want to be there.
To carry this even further Roscoe, lets do a three team trade sending Billups to Denver, Iverson to Detroit and Andre Miller to Philly.
What about a three team Iverson=PistonsCB=Denver, Miller=Philly I know it's beating a dead horse, however, I would still love to have Iverson in Detroit. I can see him on the floor with Sheed, Rip & Tay. Billups wants to play in his home town to be near his family, throw in some other folks (besides the ones I mentioned above). I truly believe that Iverson wants that ring baaaaaad. We can deliver it to him. Make the deal Joe.
Re: What about a three team Iverson=PistonsCB=Denver, Miller=Philly What about sending Sheed home to Philly to play with AI? We could grab Dalembert.
I've consolidated the other AI trade ideas into this one.
Re: What about a three team Iverson=PistonsCB=Denver, Miller=Philly i'd much rather have Sheed and Billups over AI and Dalembert
AI wants to go to a contender, he's said that he loves the Pistons, and as Roscoe pointed out, nobody will take him unless he's going somewhere where he'll be happy. Joe D. said this in his conference call with season ticket holders a couple of days ago (courtesy of Need4Sheed): As the situation continues to drag on, does it become more likely that Joe will pick up the phone?
Billups play hasn't been terrible of late, it's been pretty decent in the big games. But that enormous payday that is coming up, which is more about the length rather than total dollar amount (risk level) could have Joe thinking a little. I know all of the arguments against AI. Many of them are valid. But remember, Billups is only going to be a discount over The Answer for the remainder of this season. Next year, the salary level will be closer to par. And part of me, wonders if the sheer "wow factor" might not tease the Pistons into a look at this. The home crowd and local market in general could use a shakeup as it pertains to the Pistons.
"As of right now" aha. He meant at that very second and didn't exclude that the Pistons were in talks with them 1 hour before. Detroit is the blue-est collar town available to him. They could have AI temporary tattoo night for kids at the Palace to make up for the lack of Ben Wallace wigs.
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