Chicago fans and media all over Ben. Could he be moved?

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    I do not like BlogaBull. I wrote them a long time ago, asking that they change their name to BlogaBen. They didn't do that.
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    That would too confusing.

    BlogaBen Gorden?

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    Blogabull has a link called blogging with the enemy. Before every game they link up to the opponents blogs to see what they are talking about. I emailed them to put pf.com up there but they haven't.
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    If the Bulls were any good, they probably would add us.

    Good looking out Bills, you're carrying your weight as a co-owner. :thumb:
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    Things just continue to pile on.


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    That is a roast. Talk about player hatin'!

    I would contend that Brian Cardinal is ahead of him.
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    More of the disgruntled Chicagoans (?). Warning: foul language involved.

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    Deep frustraiton is totally justified but IMO, most of those proposale are purely fantasy...great coaches do not grow on trees, (great)players usually do not want to resign and free agents to sign with bad-climate teams.
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    All of this sort of stuff reminds me of what a stable environment Joe has created in Detroit. Miami, LA, Cleveland, Chicago, NJ, Inidana... all of our rivals have meltdowns while we generally hover at the top. At least during Joe's tenure so far.

    Managing the payroll is a big part of this. Not just in terms of keeping good players, but avoiding situations where players are jealous of others and are constantly comparing themselves to higher paid players.

    We have a definite pecking order, which is pretty much earned. Our best players tend to be the oldest ones and the highest paid. Our young players seem to know enough to say the right things and work hard.
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    I'm to lazy too look for that but Nazr mentioned, that he misses that family feeling, where nobody is overlooked.
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    Reading profanity and insults about Ben Wallace from disgruntled Bulls fans and Pf.com members who apparently agree with them is beyond the pale.

    Ben is no longer a Piston. The only possible function for this thread is so that forum members who are still angry at Ben for leaving Detroit can gloat and then recite as a mantra. "Isn't it great that Joe didn't pay Ben because he is in decline and is a locker room cancer and just plain sucks as we always knew he did." Repeat 100 times to maintain delusions.

    Long after the other members of the Best Starting Four have faded into oblivion, there will still be the legacy of Detroit Piston Big Ben Wallace, an undrafted defensive player who made a huge contribution towards the only ring the Pistons have won in the last 18 years. To date, Flip Saunders and the guard-centered offense have failed in pursuit of same.

    I have to do what I can to stem the tide of the Ben hating, which seems to be on the rise around here. I decided a while ago that the only way to deal with the Darko and Ben emotional intensity black holes in here was not to engage. I slipped a little here, because the offense to Ben was so agregious IMO.
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    I don't know of anyone of this forum besides yourself that had said the above.

    I have said that in my opinion that Ben was not worth the amount that the Bulls paid him and am glad that the Pistons didn't sign him for that amount because it would have put us in a difficult financial structure. (Others have said the same thing). I have also said that I would have loved for the Pistons to have signed him for some lesser amount that fit our salary structure.

    I have also said that Big Ben and Flipper did not get along. That is in fact a truth. I have also said that it is the coaches responsibility to get along with his players.

    I don't know anyone except yourself that has used the word in reference to Big Ben that you used in your last sentence quoted above.

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    You maybe do not smell a danger there - such presumption leads to possibility that players start blackmailing. In my opinion, teamowners hire players to get results as a team, if player wants to develope personal career, fine, but do not ask TEAMowners money for this.
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    I guess since I started this thread I felt like I should comment. I am just bringing the news and reactions, not necessarily blaming Ben for leaving or anything. There was a lot written about him here and in Chicago and opinions vary. It doesn't diminish the current issue that he's paid lots of money without producing to compensate. That's all there is to it. I am thankful for him for the years he played in Detroit and the championship, but I can't dwell in the past.
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    I'm open to the possibility that Ben is so loyal to the Pistons organization that he was sent to Chicago on a mission to beat the Bulls... from within. Not sure why he beats us everytime he plays us though. Maybe so it's not so obvious? Yes, that must be it.

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