Contracts, the end of civilization as we know it

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  1. roscoe36

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    Billups: Contract can wait - 10/04/06 - The Detroit News Online

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    I don't see the point of McCoskey just pulling numbers out of his butt like $60 million for Billups. What's the point?

    If Delfino excels like many in this forum think he will, the Pistons will have a good bargain:

    2006-07: $1,037,280
    2007-08: $1,868,141
    2008-09: $2,744,299
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    Be careful what you say about McCoskey. He knows how to use the Intarweb and he will get angry with you in his blog. :rolleyes:

    Seriously though, the 5th year of Delfino is not a given.

    Rookie scale contracts are 4 years with the 5th year possible restricted free agency if a qualifying offer is dealt.

    04/05 Year 1
    05/06 Year 2
    06/07 Year 3
    07/08 Year 4 (team option)
    08/09 Year 5 Free Agent (restricted if a qualifying offer is made).

    Chris and Flip are incorrect. Delfino is here for 2 more seasons, and if he doesn't like it, can return to Europe when he becomes a free agent. Or he can chase down a huge deal in the NBA that Joe will not match.

    This 3 year stuff is erroneous.
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    Why do you always have to ruin a story by pointing out erroneous facts in it? :)

    Roscoe, your next post will be #4500! :p_welldone:
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    now does anyone wonder why delfino wants out. 2 more years of getting bent over and at a bargain price. if you are going to go cheap on the guy at least give him some playing time. why ruin a young players career. these are some of his best years i just hope he doesn't spend any more of them rotting on the bench.
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    I think Carlos will get his chance this year, Bballjay. If he breaks out, he'll get rewarded financially...eventually...
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    At least 1,000 are in the staff room. That is my story and I am sticking to it.

    I'm trying to goad Chris into calling me out in his blog so we can have a cyberwar. :starwars:
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    "He will basically be here another three years if we want him," Saunders said.
    "That's just the reality. This league is a lot about leverage and given the collective bargaining agreement, young guys don't have a lot of leverage."



    Is it me, or is this not the way to convince a player to resign with you?



    Also, Murray is a time bomb waiting to happen to this team next year. If he plays well, he'll resign for more money with someone else. If he plays badly, why would we want him back? And if he plays more than Delfino, Delfino will be demanding a trade. Which means we might not have a single returning backup 1, 2, or 3 returning next year.
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    I can almost hear the spin now. "Billups was aging, starting to slow down, team needs a new direction... "

    Have to wait and see. That 15mil figure is probably accurate.
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    Four years, $54 mil for CB. You heard it here first. Starts at $11,640,000 and goes up 10% a year.
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    If someone on the Bulls and Bobcats can get 60+ million why shouldn't a certain gaurd on the pistons get it. If anyone deserves it he does IMO.
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    The Bulls and Bobcats have a lot of young players on low value deals.

    With Tay, Rip, Sheed and Dice on the books, signing Billups to $15 million a year is salary cap suicide.
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    unfortunately its a very thin tightrope...you roll the dice either way...

    hellllllooooo mediocrity.

    who on the bobcats has a 60 million deal? They are one of the cheapest rosters around.
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    Keep in mind that they did not start out with a full cap. I am not sure if they are even at full cap yet. This is one area where I have to compliment Stern. I hate it in other sports when brand new teams get to eat up all the good FA's and are title contenders in a couple of years.
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    I'd like to see a better performance in the playoffs before we start talking near max deals for C.B..
    There might be someone better out there for that kinda cash.
    Should be a buyers market next summer.
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    *COUGH* TJ Ford *COUGH*
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    They are also need to build a decent fan base before going hog wild with the salaries. From what I get, the organization is pretty conservative financially
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    "TJ.FORD OVER CHAUNCEY BILLIUPS" Oh my GOD! I :pray: I'm in the wrong teams forum
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    TJ Ford at 8 million or Chauncey Billups at 16 million?

    Who is going to be younger at the end of their contract? Who is faster? Who can run a fast break.

    Chauncey is gunna get old at one point.

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