And when we get a guy with a power forwards body and elite guard skills named LeBron James we can get away with it as well. That's your best example? There isn't even any congruence considering that they have the best forward on the planet dragging their frontline to victory while getting double digit rebounds almost every time out, while we have Amir Johnson getting double digit fouls if the rules allowed for it. And effective is what? Getting rebounds? Preventing offensive putbacks? Scoring points? Did you judge the players performance last night via live feed or espn gamecast like last game? Sorry. You'll have to learn to walk on water before you're on any sort of steady ground with me on this point. Oh how easily revisionist history erases the old boys club of Chauncey and Rip playing keep away from everyone else on the floor while they occasionally hit Rasheed for heat checks and toss Tayshaun the periodic bone. I think you're in denial if you're pretending this wasn't prevalent in years past. Once again we're back to Allen, and here I thought we were talking about Curry. It would make a more convenient and easy to follow read if you dropped the facade and stuck with the AI hate. It's just downright troublesome to peel back the layers and eventually get to post trade remorse. Waitaminute... You just said the problem was everyone else not named Amir's defense. Then you said "we managed to not let it get away from us defensively." I bow to your superior use of the infamous shotgun approach. You win. Congratulations.