Isiah might have been an %$#@ and maybe so was Bill Laimbeer but neither $%$#%$# the franchise over so if people are bitter about LB and Ben Wallace its warranted. IMO I missed they way the team played under LB. I have biases against Flip after one season which drives merc nuts. However, I think the franchise needs to get on the same page regarding its young assets. Joe talks about not interfering with his coaches but I think he needs to guide then a little more. i think, from reading off season articles, that he's starting to do that. I think 1 season on the bench is enough. by season 2 play them and figure out what you got.